USS Hancock Association Quarterdeck Log

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Name: Dennis Flynn
Email_Address: dpflynn@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 58 through 62
Division_Squadron_Detachment: E and V-6 Flt Deck
Date: 10 Sep 2010
Time: 06:02

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Charlie, agent orange was another government attempt to mess with mother nature as with most attempts by federal and state government it came back and bit us in the butts. Here in Michigan every time the state starts to mess with the environment they mess it up worse. Think back when England introduced rabbits to Australia, no natural predators and they went crazy, ruining what crops they had then. Man hasn't learned. Like being in a fight and getting knocked down bad, then standing up and asking for more. It is the nature of us to be stupid. Dennis

Name: Charlie Ridens
Email_Address: Valhalla1@cableone.net
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1960-1964
Division_Squadron_Detachment: A Division
Date: 10 Sep 2010
Time: 05:45

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Mike that's sad, There's really no is cure for Agent Orange. my blood Dr was thinking about giving me a bone marrow transplant but backed out because I was to old. The VA has a loop your paperwork gos through. no one wants to say you have it. My blood Dr knew it but when it gos to a higher level it comes back saying there's other thing that could cause the same symptoms. My 1st Dr that said I was sent me to Dallas for a kidney operation.....Charlie

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Name: Mike Caulfield
Email_Address: mtkaka@yahoo.com
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1972-1972
Division_Squadron_Detachment: VFP-63 DET-1
Date: 10 Sep 2010
Time: 01:15

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As posted by Butch Portillo, I am saddened to learn of the passing of John LeJeune (VF-211) from pancreatic cancer.

I was last in touch with John in November 2006 via email and at that time he had been cancer-free for 2 years or so (prostate).

He said his VA claim was at the Board of Appeals in Washington... I never learned of the outcome of his Appeal. Prostate cancer is one of several diseases linked to presumptive exposure to dioxin (Agent Orange).

FUBAR

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Our Country has no Damage Control. We are a sinking vessel if we don't get the bilge pumps going. The Feds put States in hand cuffs, A lot of Military ask Jesus to pull the Family Jewels out of the fire one more time. Why don't we have our flag in class rooms and say the pledge of allegiance anymore. my football team used to say a prayer before a game. I'm not a Bible thumper but think back the way it was...Charlie

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We have all worked to keep invaders away from our shores, That's what the Military for. The wisdom of DC started using us as Nation builders. you can't change a Country. They haven't learned a thing from Vietnam. our borders are open. We are being whip from inside our borders. I could care less about the Koran. a terrorist can hide under our laws if their leagal or not....Charlie

Name: Jim Winn
Email_Address: Jwinnfsm@aol.com
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1959 - 1962
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V-6 and VF-211
Date: 09 Sep 2010
Time: 19:36

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Wayne, You might want to read the Koran, completely, yourself before you make any statements either way! Jim

Name: Wayne Durfey
Email_Address: waynedurfey@yahoo.com
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1971-1974
Division_Squadron_Detachment: M div.
Date: 09 Sep 2010
Time: 17:27

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Hey! Is anyone going to the Koran burning today? It never ceases to amaze me at the depths that some people will descend to gain a little fame. I'm no fan of Islam, but this guy is a little embarrassing to my species! I listened to the Imam that is trying to build the Mosque in New York and to my amazement, he seemed pretty decent and even thoughtful...for a Muslim. I guess they're all not crazy after all!

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XO, I underestimated Hermine, it caused a lot of flooding inland, Texas weather been pretty crazy for several yrs now, Miss Mississippi suppose to welcome back the 1st vets back to the Naval Home Oct 4. my reporting date is the 12th. I'm anxious to get the ball rolling....Charlie

Name: Tom Wimberly
Email_Address: twimbo@aol.com
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1970-72
Division_Squadron_Detachment: Exec of the ship
Date: 09 Sep 2010
Time: 05:52

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Charlie, I did get personally involved in the storm Hermine. Had a granddaughter from Calif visiting here and she was due to fly out of San Antonio returning to Calif on Wednesday at noon. Usually we have a crowd go up to see her off, but with the bad weather we decided to send her with her mother to San Antonio Tuesday afternoon instead of traveling Thursday. They could stay with son or ex-daughter in law and be close to the airport Wednesday. Both son and ex-DIL had electrical power failures, but by the time they arrived, son's power was on again. She got off OK yesterday. San Antonio can get mean in heavy rains. It's hilly; lots of streets can flood dangerously.

Name: Charlie Ridens
Email_Address: Valhalla1@cableone.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1960-1964
Division_Squadron_Detachment: A Division
Date: 08 Sep 2010
Time: 21:32

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Shipmates It's flu shot time, I got mine at Walgreens today. It didn't cost me anything with my retired ID, It only took 10 mins. I bought a DVD there. I was on my scooter and went to Walmarts, leaving the DVD set the alarm off, there was 3 people trying to figure out what was doing it and it was the DVD, Good Football Game tomarrow. I hope the Vikings whip the Saints, Those late hits on Farve last yr was dirty pool. Cujo's on the patio barking at the VC trying to sneak up on me.....Charlie

Name: Tom Boring
Email_Address: Texastom95@aol.com
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1968-1970
Division_Squadron_Detachment: S-6 Division
Date: 08 Sep 2010
Time: 10:40

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CARL, I didn't catch your post back in 2005. I'm always on the lookout for anyone who worked in aviation supply. I was in the Navy during 56-57 but not aboard HANCOCK. I didn't report aboard until 68. If you want to become a member e-mail me and I will put you in touch with the membership chairman. TOM

Name: Phil Torres
Email_Address: phil.torres@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1965-1968
Division_Squadron_Detachment: E Div IC Gang
Date: 08 Sep 2010
Time: 09:07

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Butch Portillo; Sorry to hear about the loss of your friend John (VF211) Did you ever have any luck in the search for you sister ? if not don't give up, continue searching.. Phil

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Hi Carl, on aboard and make some noise, I'm kind of a newcomer to this site but a motor mouth. no one ever heard of me before I started talking about my experinces aboard the Hanna and a bunch in different Depts had ties with mine. 3K men with some departing after each cruise is quite an ordeal. I like to here about the changes that went throught the yrs,but my yrs are very special to me....Charlie

Name: carl johnson
Email_Address: cajjlj@msn.com
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1956-1957
Division_Squadron_Detachment: supply aviation
Date: 08 Sep 2010
Time: 07:48

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Hello to all and wishing everyone the best. Left messages in 2005, but got no replies. Hope better luck this time.

Name: carl johnson
Email_Address: cajjlj@msn.com
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1956-1957
Division_Squadron_Detachment: supply aviation
Date: 08 Sep 2010
Time: 07:36

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Hello to all and wishing everyone the best. Left messages in 2005, but got no replies. Hope better luck this time.

Name: Butch Portillo
Email_Address: willyfudds11@gmail.com
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1963-1966
Division_Squadron_Detachment: S-3 Div.
Date: 07 Sep 2010
Time: 13:25

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I lost a good friend a couple of weeks ago, john legeune, i believe he was a lifetime member. john was in VF-211Checkertails aboard ship. he passed away from pancreatic cancer, he will be missed !!!

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XO I see you got a tropical storm in CC, Toni said the TV station was without lights for a while. the engineers blamed her jokingly. If something breaks down it's usually when she's using it. "its not my fault this time" Paris really needed the rain. We have sure lucked out since Katrina. we are over due....Charlie

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Dennis, as a boy my uncle came back from Korea, he taught me the proper way to shoot, breathing, trigger squezze, put the stock in the same place on my shoulder and my cheek in the same place, you know the routine, I practiced on the Red Dot on Havoline oil cans, he taught me how to read the patten to correct what I was doing wrong. My cousins never could out shoot me. that target master was very acurate once he set the sights....Charlie

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Charlie, That crow story made me laugh.I had my 13 year old grandson out shooting clays 2 summers ago and he kept missing. I picked my 22 semi auto up and said "Grandpa will back you up" He took 3 shots and missed, I fired 4 from the hip and damned if I didn't hit it and it shattered. Took full credit for it and he was amazed. I could never duplicate that shot again but he didn't know it. I was probably more amazed than he was but didn't let on. Dennis

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Wild Crows wouldn't let me get in range, I killed one at an unbelievable range. I might have been using my bolt action 22 mag Mossberg. I aimed high and wind age? I never expected to hit it. It fell out of the tree, Dad looked at me and said damn boy your pretty good with that thing. I took my undeserving pat on the back. I gave all my guns to my oldest son. It, my pre 64 30-30 Winchester and Remington Auto Shotgun. my 20 Ga double barrel Stevens somehow disappeared along with my single shot 22 target master that was my 1st gun with a civilian moving co moving us back from Germany. I was about 10 when I got the 22 for Chrismas ...Charlie

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Buck fever:) The 1st deer I killed was with that same 20 Ga. I was quail hunting as a boy and checked the blackberry thickets. a doe ran out and I broke her back with bird shot at real close range before I realize what was going on. Dad didn't want me killing deer because they ate brush and vines and helped keep them cleaned out, but I took her to the house and we dressed her. they used salt licks we put out for cattle. I had to break Ice in the ponds in the Am before school with a sledge hammer for cattle to drink and they would also. to kill one wouldn't be much of a challange...Charlie

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Wayne Guns weren't a big thing growing up in Paris Tx. all boys had them, I had a horse named Buck. Cowboy movies are BS, I shot at a rabbit with a 20 Ga off in the saddle, He rolled me of the back and left me in the dirt and hauled butt bach to the barn. Dad had about 240 acres. Ranching is hard work especialy during hay seaon. that was back in the days of square bales.....Charlie

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Thanks Pete, enjoy your trip, I'm sure you guys will have a lot of war stories to share. I admire you Pilots even though I think y'all are nuts...Charlie

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Yes Wayne, I really appreciate my donor. I don't remember the highway # but there was one that went threw the Sierras where all the goldmines were. very interesting, some of the land that they hydro mined was still scared. I bought me a goldpan. I had the only one in Paris Tx....Charlie

Name: Pete Cole
Email_Address: petecole@earthlink.net
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1973-1975
Division_Squadron_Detachment: VA-212
Date: 06 Sep 2010
Time: 17:54

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Shipmates, off to "Hook 10" on Thursday. Will represent the Hannah with honor. Congrats to Charlie on your new Life Membership!

Wayne, I will work on A-4 membership, I have a few guys in mind.

Pete

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Continued... Upon seeing all of these deer in the brush that we had just walked through, "Buck Fever" hit us big time and all three of us opened up on the deer. Didn't hit a thing! It sounded like WWIII had started. The last shot from one of our guns clipped the antler off one of the bucks and stunned it. The rest took off for parts unknown. We had to finish it off with a 22cal. rifle because it was the only thing that had any ammo in it. I ate venison for a couple of months after that and haven't been able to eat it since.

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Phil and Charlie...A few years back, a couple of buddies of mine and I formed a new construction company. Times were tough and money was tight at first, so we decided to go deer hunting because we needed the food! We drove up to a place called Indian Valley jusy north of San Francisco. After freezing our nuggets off that nightr, we got moving around 0700 and walked for about two hours before stoping on a rocky hilltop for a rest. I saw a rabbit on the fire trail below us and took a shot. Didn't hit a thing, but six or seven deer jumped up out of the underbrush to see what happened. More to follow.

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Charlie... Congrats on your "Life Membership"! And thanks to your donor. Renews your faith in mankind, eh? I believe their is a drive thru Redwood tree in the Muir Woods north of San Francisco. I haven't been there since 1976, but I'm fairly sure that I remember one being there.

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Phil my son told me he may move to N Calif when he retires, his wifes from Goose Bay Oregon. I worry about the fires where he's at now, he said it was so dry that you could rub to sticks together and start a fire. He's going to go to College under the GI bill and said maybe Phoenix. he thinks Calif is going to clean house with there politicians and unions. he said a lot of industry is moving out of Calif because of tax's....Charlie

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Phil, the one we drove thew was at Sequoia. I think it was the General Grant tree that had a sign that said it was a sapling when Jesus was born that the Redwoods were the oldest living things on earth. I froze my but off deer hunting just out side on Yosemite Park, there is one heck of a temperature change from day to night. there was so much brush you couldn't see a deer if it was standing next to you. you had to camp in authorized camping areas, does would come threw and see if there was anything good to eat laying around. My wife fed one some crackers, I think she liked the salt. I never heard of any problems with bears there....Charlie

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I just got a call from my Master Chief son David, he's looking to retire Jan 2012 with 30. He's on the LPD-7 Cleveland. He loves sea duty, His wife was a 3rd class ET, when he met her. the smartest woman I ever met, she's a workaholic and loves to tare into things. the 1st time I saw her was her butt sticking out of their dishwasher with part's all over the place, I ask David shouldn't you be doing that. he said she won't let me. She's VP at a Jr College there now. Sheryl would qualify as a Japanese taxi driver. I road with her once and just closed my eyes. I have no idea how shes still alive. We went to TJ, me and her got drunk and David and my wife baby sitted us....Charlie

Name: Phil Torres
Email_Address: phil.torres@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: .
Years_Aboard: 1965-1968
Division_Squadron_Detachment: E Div IC Gang
Date: 06 Sep 2010
Time: 11:25

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Charlie; The redwood tree that had a highway running thru it was located in Yosemite National park, it fell in 1969. Tunnel tree in Sequoia Nat Park also fell some time ago. The only three drive thru trees remainig are privately owned and are located south of Crecent city,Ca. I used to go deer hunting in Humbolt and Mendecino counties until the low land idiots started going there and shooting all over the place, that convinced me to stop, it started to sound like a war zone with high power rifle bulletts zinging all around you. Phil

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My 1st set of orders out of Boot Camp was to Vallejo to wait on the Hanna, It should have been TI. I reported aboard a sub tender. a drunk 1st class was giving the Chief a hard time, the Chief just knocked him out and he was laying on the deck, and went back to checking me in like nothing happened. he ask if I wanted to go on liberty. heck no I just wanted a bunk. that scared me, Chiefs in boot camp were tough but they didn't knock us out. They sent me to TI, and the Hanna was in but It took a little time, I think Hanna had a skeleton crew with everone on leave. when the bus took me to the pier I couldn't belive anything that big could float, I sure minded my manners checking in on the afterbrow, I didn't want the Chief knocking me out....Charlie

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Phil, Wayne have you ever been to the Sequoia National Park in Ca. Those Redwoods were giants. I heard the one that you could drive your car blew down, Ca dose have some beautiful places, just to many people for me. I'd like go back and visit Paris Tx and see how much it has changed. the last time I was in CC It grew so much I got lost. I liked the NAS even if I did get a ticket for passing an Admiral, I learned you don't suppose to pass one. It all counts on 20, It is a long row to hoe my last couple of yrs the Military was nothing like when I 1st went in...Charlie

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My 1st post as a life member. It feels good to me, I just had to try it out. I think a lot about the future of the Association. I believe we are solid now with all our Shipmates pulling extra duty to keep it going. I like the O's input I was never around them much. they put their britches on like me. I was in Port Huneme and was PO1 sitting on a bench after just takeing my physical for re-enlistment.a new Female Ensign was trying her new powers out on a 3rd class for not saluting her I cracked up laughing. She knew not to mess with me and stomped off mad...Charlie

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Gosh Old Salt that hit me out of the blue, Who ever did it I deeply appreciate it. It's a proud honor to have. I've learned a lot from Shipmates as the Hanna changed over the yrs. no one See's her the same over the yrs. My oldest son couldn't believe I was on a Carrier with a teak wood deck that still had prop A/C on it. I had a safe home on her because I had a armor deck between me and crazy Pilots. they may have though we were going to blow the ship up in 02N2, I was more worried about the ordnance div..Charlie

Name: Wayne Erven, Life Member #2, Membership Chairman
Email_Address: oldsalt2@comcast.net
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1965-1968
Division_Squadron_Detachment: Ops Office
Date: 05 Sep 2010
Time: 17:38

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Charlie, I, and Don Yeggy, NEVER make a mistake. You are now a bonifide Life Member, courtesy of a secret admirer. You will now never have to worry about paying dues again, and IF YOU KEEP YOUR ADDRESS UP TO DATE, will get the Newsletter for the rest of your life, or until the Association goes under, whichever occurs first. Welcome Aboard Lifer #418!

Name: Charles R Ridens
Email_Address: Valhalla1@cableone.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1960-1964
Division_Squadron_Detachment: A Division
Date: 05 Sep 2010
Time: 16:30

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OldSalt, I think you made a mistake, you have me down as a new life member. I can't afford it right now until I get settled in the Naval Home. Movings not cheap. Dennis I enjoyed the pix of A/C, the b-52 and Wart Hog are among my favorites. I was a Tanker once and I sure wouldn't want one after my butt. that mini gun fires depleted uranium rounds that will make swiss chesse out of one. They never did come up with an answer of what was breaking the sound barrier down here breaking windows out at night. It did it several time in a couple weeks, mine rattled and I sat up in bed, no one festd up. Jet Jocky's:) ..Charlie

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NEW ROSTER BEING PREPARED. I am working on completing the BRAND NEW Roster, with a target date NLT 30 Sep. At present I have about 297 expired members from July 2010 who are about to be deleted. If you don't renew you will be deleted, and placed in the expired list in our data base. Act now, and keep your entry going.

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MORE LIFE MEMBERS who will never pay dues again: #416, Bill Cozart, OR(RD1), 54-55; #417 Angelo Delgrosso, E, 45-46; #418 Charlie Ridens, A(MM2)(O2N2) 60-64; #419 David Strawbridge, 3rd, 5th (LTJG), 60-62

Name: Leroy Withrow
Email_Address: withrow2009@wildblue.net
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1968-1972
Division_Squadron_Detachment: Air Depart. V-1
Date: 05 Sep 2010
Time: 08:54

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Leroy is looking for e-mail address and phone # from his shipmates from 1968-1972. If you e-mail I will pass the message on,if you call him use (541)890-7320 He would like to here from you, God Bless you all and thank you for the FREEDOM I have. His wife

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Wayne, I used to drive from Port Huneme to Fresno to visit her. we would stop in Ohi and buy avocados up in the hills real cheap. It was a pretty steep drop on the highway to the Valley. the valley was wall to wall growing things. I'm not sure what went on over the yrs. I was told once the fertilizer and pesticides were contaminating the ground water. I used to go pheasant hunting in Fresno, you don't sapose to shoot hens. how can you tell when they take off like the were lauched. They fit in my sack and were good eating....Charlie

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Charlie; it is pretty sad to see all of the land that is not being planted all along Highway 5. Most of that land doesn't even have weeds growing on it, all because of the pumps not running because they will kill the delta smelt. There have been studies done and not one group has been able to prove that the smelt is endangered or prove it worth commercially or otherwise. Phil

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My sister lives in Fresno, her husband is retired from the Sheriffs dept and Kay should retire from the the school system before long. she wants to wait until shes on SS. they bought a new home 20 miles away in a gated community to get away from the gangs and crime. John still teaches at the pistol range and works part time for the Sanger Pd. I think Kay will have 30 in, she works in admin, I worry about Ca going bankrupt and and their retirement. Mine has taken a big hit and it's federal, John retired from AF reserves so they have cards to get on a military base but she has never said anything about going on one. She's been a spoiled brat all her life..Charlie

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Environmental Impact surveys cause a lot of red tape. the Sierra Club in CA got all this started by lobbying. a Snail Darter, a little fish not as big as a minnow held up the Ten valley project for yrs and they had already started building a dam. It put many people out of work. the San Joaquin valley produced more per acre than any where on earth with irrigation. that started the flood of illegals. later it was called the land of the fruits, ti turned pro gay, and with the flow over the border they brought dope and it spread all over....Charlie

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Wayne Durfey: you won't get an argument out of me in what you are saying, I remember the Orange County Bankruptcy and when the real thing happened they had no choice but to act and get out of the situation they created to begin with. I felt the same way about the auto industry, they too should have been allowed to fix their problem or go under instead of giving them all of the the money they got. Sacramento politicians and special interest groups are the root of California's problems not to mention the problems caused by Barbara Boxer with the water not going to the farmers because of some puny fish that I don't think has any commercial value except political value to her cronnies. Phil

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Wayne, I think when a city go's bankrupt the State has to bail it out. States have Credit ratings like people. Mississippi may not have a lot of industry but our Governor and State is conservative. we have a high credit ratings and industry is moving here. because we are "Right to Work" State. they can hire or fire someone without fighting the union. we are having to lay off a bunch of non-mandatory people in our State. Haley Barbour is a good man. we won't have him after election because terms are limited. our Attorney General I dislike. Grumman is going to build a plant to build a high altitude aircraft to replace the Global Hawk by 2012. it suppose to cruise at 60 K with better optics on it....Charlie

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ANOTHER LIFE MEMBER: #415 Glenn Nettles, V-2(Cats)ABE3, 59-63.

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Wayne, it's been yrs since I've been to Ca. my son lived in town right across the bridge from Coronado. where the Seals boot camp is. he taught a Petty officer development course. all he said about the course was they weren't going to make Chief without it. they had some Gator Navy Sailors there also. there ships picked up Marines from somewhere to deploy. I loved the town. His wife and him went to work and I went walking around. I was the only guy there wearing bib overalls, Gals wore them? I ask him the evening why no one would look me in the eye. he said you don't do that because it's like a confrontation? I did find a little VFW a few blocks away and had a blast. I forgot you don't suppose to toss your aluminum membership card on the bar when she ask if I was a member. I was lucky there weren't a lot of people in there. because I had to buy the bar a round. I didn't have to pay for nothing else they bought from then on...Charlie

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Phil... I live in Mission Viejo, Cal., which is just south of Los Angeles in Orange Co. We went through a county bankruptcy a few years back and I don't know of anyone who felt any affect of that BK. Only the ones feeding out of the county government trough had a problem. I think it's time to BK California and break all of these outragiuos union contracts we're suffering under and dump all of the insider spending that keeps these bozos in Sacramento. Jefferson said that if what you're doing can't stand the light of day, it's probubly dishonest. Something to that affect. Well Sacramento needs a halogen blood bath and we'll see where the cockroaches run to get out of the light.

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I've been watching some short flicks about badgers on the net. those are one tough dude. they suppose to be up north somewhere? they have no fear. 30 lbs of C-4. I've heard of wolverines up there also. I don't know much about them but I've heard their pretty tough also. I've never seen one either. I've been to some big zoos but they never had one. I guess their a critter you can't cage up. just to guess theres not a lot of them. a Bob Cat to be not large is one bad dude couped up. theres not a dog in the world that could whip one. There was a Mexican in CC that tried to sell me one. that thing would scream wanting to fight just looking at it. it wouldn't make a good house pet. kittens may be different. when it gets big I don't think it would worry much much about dogs. they would probably run from it after 1st encounter...Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 03 Sep 2010
Time: 18:11

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Charlie, looks like earl is playing out of steam. thats good. the texas coast is waiting for the snow birds it helps their economy out. it is starting to cool down a little here too. got a little needed rain last nignt. ken

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It's been a hot summer all over. It won't be long before you snow birds will stow your lawn mowers and break out the snow shovels. It's getting a little cooler here and won't be to long before I can give my A/C a break. Oct/Nov is the best time of yr here. Humidity is way down and the end of Hurricane Season. We like Christmas but have an extra Holiday thrown in called Marti Gras in Feb. It actualy got started in Mobile Ala. but people think of New Orleans. Biloxi has one during the day for kids. and then at night for Adults. I told Toni once to get me some beads, she said I'm not pulling my shirt up to get you some beads...Charlie

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Phil In our days there I think the State alone would rate about 17th in the world economy. now it is bankrupt and shoes no sign of trying to help it's self and criticizes Arizona and boycotts it. they get power from AZ. I'd pull th plug or double the rates. PG&E used to be one of the most powerful corporations in the US. they blew it with corruption. personaly I have no sympathy. I didn't do it...Charlie

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Charlie: California is beyond hope if things don't change soon. Sacramento has not come up with an approved budget by the end of June in the last 20 years. I would say, put all legislators on furlough like all the rest of the state workers but then less that nothing would get done since we are almost there now. California is full of left wing Red Diaper Doper Babies and many other undesirables. Maybe the answer is to outsource all state legislators including the Governator Arnold.

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Phil, It upsets me also the way they do Arizona. If the Feds don't want to control it they should let each state do it and stay out of their way. Calif is beyond hope. I see nothing wrong with documented workers that are identifiable and pay taxs. our tax payers can only carry so much load on their backs. The Constitution is wrote in English you know the rest of the story, We have one flag....Charlie

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Charlie; You are right about any money that the feds get from BP or any other source goes into the general fund and we never see it again except in a stupid study as to why a cow pisses on a flat rock. Any federal building that saves lots of money on energy, lighting water etc goes into the general fund and the facility gets jack. That is the reason design build and the contractor gets paid from the savings from the utilities is so popular and the way the facility gets a benifit from the projects. Before I retired I told the higher up that they were all trying to be crapologists, don't know crap about crap but they are trying to be one. Needless to say I didn't win any points or awards but that is OK. Everyone was trying to do my job when I said I was retiring and when they ran into a problem and came looking for me. My answer was you started it, you go finish it. Beauracrats always trip over their own toes trying to prove how uninformed they are. Phil

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Charlie, The liberty launch is parked this weekend, It has been very hot up here and the fish stopped biting several weeks ago. Now we are headed camping for the weekend and it is down to the low 70's and windy with scattered rain. Go figure. Been doing some major cleanup in my garage and filled two big trash containers, sealed and painted the floor and still have to clean out my tool boxes. I have crap that has been in there 30 years plus that I need to toss. All those cars I restored sure put a lot of over spray and dust in behind everything. Dennis Dennis

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Dennis, We haven't heard much about your liberty launch and fishing. going threw in Panama Canal once we had a guy we had a guy on the ship catch a big fish when they were filling the lock. I couldn't believe it. I don't know what it was? I always loved fishing, I liked to catch sharks, I never caught a real big one but they are fun. I think the fish that gave me the biggest fight was a 60 lb caravel jack. That dude had some HP. I think I was more wore out that him after about an hr tug of war...Charlie

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After the BP oil rig I blow a relief valve at them. they have been drilling them for yrs with no problems. They have to have better quality control and a safety officer. they are perfect targets for terrorist. They are great fishing, a lot of fish go under them for shade and eat barnacle's and growth off them. The Feds step in BPs way or they would have had it sealed long before they did. they have BP at fixed bayonets now with law suits. any money will end up in DC and you know what will happen....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: .
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div, aft. eng. rm.
Date: 02 Sep 2010
Time: 17:21

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Charlie, that's good at least they know what to do to get the job done. the ones running this thing have no clue. come nov. 2 hope it get's straightten out. come 2012 hope the american people have a person that is for america. and can get us back to what america is about. ken

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Ken, at least they got the fire out on that oil rig...Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div.aft. eng. rm.
Date: 02 Sep 2010
Time: 15:40

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Charlie, you are so right. if you are crazy then i am too so thats makes two that knows what is happening. by reading coments theirs a bunch more. ken

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I hate the news anymore. all our oyster reefs are dead and now they have another explosion on a rig in Louisiana. Somethings wrong with this picture. I think the contractors need a through no BS background check on all employees. They won't block our boarders? We are paying troops to go to other country's when the basic reason to have them is to defend ours. 1 of the 2 of us is crazy, me or the White House. Thank God I'm not President. I don't think I wouldn't walk softly with my big stick. I belive in tough love....Charlie

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Phil, you would have loved the Seabees. 3 of our mechanics pitched in and bought a old VW. they got drunk and run it off into the Ocean just for fun and got the duty wrecker driver to come down where they could fish it out. they had that thing running in a week or 2. I was in the same Quonset hut with them. I was the steel worker assigned to them to do their welding on equiment. there was never a dull in that hut. Seabees don't pay much attention to rank. I out ranked most but to them it didn't matter...Charlie

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Phil when I was there they had a Marine Camp. not very many, we would get Marine Squadrons fly from RR and make bombing runs there. I think they had a SeaBee detachment there that would push all the dirt back in the craters. They weren't from my Battalion. I think a MCBMU. witch are small permanent units for maintenance and rotate men. Puerto Rico had a lot of riots when I was there. but mostly peaceful. one group tried to block the gates to RR and the Damage Control just washed them down the road with fire trucks. I liked Puerto Rico. I learned to Scuba Dive and Sail there...Charlie

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Tom, Charlie; The correct spelling of the Island is Viegues, sometimes known as the Spanish Virgin Islands. it is also nicknamed Isla Nena , meaning little Island or maybe crater Island after the Navy got done with the shelling and bombing runs. Phil

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Tom I don't know how to spell it either. I think at least 20 miles from Roosevelt Roads by mike boat. I was at RR for almost a yr and only been there once. It was a major place the Navy trained for beach assaults including squadron hitting it from RR. their was a town there. UDT would blow up dud ordnance and give the all clear to the town and they would search it for scrap metal. I don't no af anyone that didn't eat good in the Navy. by regulation CB's sapose to get a ration of 1 1/2 It didn't mean much to us but it gave the Gally more $ to spend on our chow. we didn't have to pay for work cloths because we messed so many up on the job. every one was trying to get our boot's. they were Pilots boots with steel toes of high quality leather. They were hot working in them all day but OSHA said we had to have them. I have no idea why Pilots needed steel toes 30 K ft in the air...Charlie

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Charlie, Not sure how to spell Viegus been to long since I was there. I remember operating with the Marines (sometimes around 64-65) and a bunch of cow crap. I liked to go there because the Marine field chow was better than shipboard food.

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Ken, It doesn't seem that long ago that women used "Bobbie Pins" and "Safety Pins" on diapers. you can't beat the old diapers for polishing your car. I had a couple Buddy's that one had a BSA and the other a Triumph. I think one was called a "Flash"? and the other a "Bonneville"? I rode both several times. I liked the Triumph better but don't know much about motorcycles. I had a Buddy in the B's when I was in Puerto Rico that bought a Honda. It was a nice bike but didn't have the guts the others had. I rode behind him all over the Island. there was a Quonset hut of Seals In our camp. Those idiots would be up jogging calling cadence at 03:30 in the mourning. They didn't have to circle all the huts and wake the whole camp before taking off down the road. there was a UDT team there also but I don't know where they bunked at. they both would go to Viequs island and blow things up. The Navy had a bombing range there...Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958=1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm
Date: 01 Sep 2010
Time: 16:41

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them magnetoes where good they did it all by theirself. chase oil drilling for awhile had waukesha engines on them. had a 1957 bsa 650 cc. did not need battery. good old days. ken

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Charlie, We used to do that with capacitors in HS Auto Shop, Pissed the teacher off all the time, he would get hit more than the students and he had been around a lot longer than us. When I worked in a auto repair shop we also repaired Magnetos from farm tractors, I would get a guy to hold it so I could check it out to see if it would turn over good, give it a twist and then be ready to catch it because he would toss it trying to get away when he got nailed with the spark.

Tim Allen the comedian had a good line on one of his skits. He was reading the paper and his wife came in and said "Your son is messing with the wall plug and a hairpin" He said don't worry. Then his son got nailed with the 110 volts and went scooting across the floor like a dog with worms. He said I looked at him and said "You're grounded"..........Gotta Love it. Dennis

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I read something today that High School boys in a NH School in a electrical shop class touched a wire to each of guys nipples and his heart stopped and his parent's are suing the school. How did the idiots ever live long enough to get to High School. The boy lived but may have brain damage. I think it was damaged before he took the course. I used to teach A/C in Jr College which cover electrical and basic electronics. I would charge a bunch of capacitors up and put them on thier desk before they got there. I would act like I was messing with my papers and of course they would pick them up and look them over and then a few put thier finger on the terminal and jumped up cussing saying that that damn thing got me. I said nahh hows that going to hapen it dosen't have any wires to it and then others would try it. they got hit with 60K volts but know amps to speak of. I told them you got a little harmless taste but that 220 in the shop will kill you. and went from there....Charlie

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MORE NEW LIFE MEMBERS: The following joined the ranks of those who will not have to pay dues again: #410 CAPT Allan Finley, X Div, 69-72, #411 William D. Finch, S-6 Div, 62-63, #412 AOCS William Free, X Div, 57-58, #413, Rudolph Hood, VT-6, 45, #414 Larry T. Knafel, A2 Div , 61-63.

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I received my Hanna News in the mail today, I sure enjoy reading it. I sure appreciate all the "extra duty" our shipmates do to keep the association afloat. the Hanna is remembered by more people than I though. I had to go to the VA this mourning and talked to a guy that served on a commuications ship that remembered her. I ask him if it was one of those spy ships and he said no. they relayed a lot of messages. when I saw the AR something with his ship on his hat that was the 1st thing that came to mind. I was in an elevator so didn't have much time to talk.I think the Bilox Va is going to be a major center when they get done with all the contruction. It used to be the worlds worst when I 1st got here but it's great now. I tell the Drs I have no problems and they don't jack with me where I don't take up their time. they see I'm still breathing so renew my presciptions. they would check me out if I ask them to. I'll be glad to get in the NH and get free dental....Charlie

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Wayne, I don't have a reporting date to the new Naval Home until Oct 12. I sure hope the hurricanes stay away this yr until I get checked in. the bad ones are in late Aug through Sept. we are way overdue. most are just a pain in the butt knocking the power out. Building codes here have made new construction very costly. new schools and things like that are built to be shelters. I love it here. heck other places have earth quakes, tornados, Ice storms, ect. I have a couple cases of MRE's, propane cooking stove and survival stuff in my patio shead. My apartment is on high ground and survived Katrina. Ward 9 in New Orleans what you see on TV was mostly low rental older homes that the owners are not going to invest money back into. Most was section 8 property.....Charlie

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Wayne, most TV shows New Orleans. their damage was done because the Levey on the Ms river broke. the eye actual hit in Pass Christan Ms, a 34ft storm surge came in with the winds on the east side of the eye. It was like a giant river that kept getting deeper and deeper. I was on the 9th floor of the Naval Home right by the beach. It flooded our emergency generator out and blew our water tower over. The Seabees had put metal panels over the gall on the 1st floor but the force of the surge just busted the front door open and flooded the 1st floor. when the surge went out it all kinds of stuff with it into the Gulf. It looked like a B-52 strike zone without the craters. the Gulf Coast has been slow to rebuild be cause of high insurance.....Charlie

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Charlie... Sounds like a hell of a blow kicking up in the Caribbean and moving towards the east coast. It probubly won't hit the gulf region, but after Katrina, who wants to take a chance? Your safe in the Naval residence now, I take it. This whole week they have been reliving Katrina on the news. I can't imagine any more destruction to property then what they were showing. I know a girl that was friends with a young couple from a small coastal town outside New Orleans, that had just got married prior to the storm hitting. They lost everything. I gave the guy a job out here as he was a trained plumber, and we all helped them get on their feet again. One of the local churches gave them a good used car and another group paid for their apartment. They missed their relatives and after about a year ended up moving back to Louisiana. I get a call from them every once in a while.

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Charlie, been reading about your military service and life. thanks for your service. hope you enjoyed the military home. you do deserve it. give me a shout.anytime. ken

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Wayne, that water out there is sure cold. It's to warm here inside the barrier Islands. It's not real clear inside the Islands with all the silt coming out of the Ms river. salinity isn't high so it doesn't corrode much. A few miles out the Gulf has a trench thats deep and colder. thats where the charter boats go deep sea fishing. that Gulf can get dangerous in a heartbeat if you don't pay close attention to the weather. a lot of newcomers get into trouble going out to far with low transom boats and get caught in troughs and swamped from behind....Charlie

Name: Michael R. (Mike) Verville, 2nd VP USS Hancock Association
Email_Address: mverville2005@yahoo.com
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1972-1975
Division_Squadron_Detachment: AIMD/X
Date: 30 Aug 2010
Time: 07:18

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Just had this link (http://media.causes.com/576542?p_id=92681239) sent to me and thought it would be something my fellow shipmates would enjoy. There is a initial goal to send this to at least 7.5M people. I'm sure when people see it - we will far exceed that goal.

Name: Michael R. (Mike) Verville
Email_Address: mverville2005@yahoo.com
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1972-1975
Division_Squadron_Detachment: AIMD/X
Date: 30 Aug 2010
Time: 02:19

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I have an extra 1973 USS Hancock (CVA-19) Cruise Book that I purchased when I built my complete collection for the last reunion. I'm selling it for $125 (exactly what I paid for it). It is in very good condition. On E-Bay it is going for $399. I'm trying to recoup a little of the $$ I spent on my collection. Drop me an email or give me a call. BTW - I'm still working to upload the entire set so share with my fellow Hannah shipmates. Hope to complete it by the next reunion in Chicago in 2012. Yes that's a long time but uploading 300 pages 1 page at a time for each book is very time consuming -- but nothing compared to the 2,000+ hours it took to search over 1,800 online bookstores world-wide. I hope those of you who saw the collection and got electronic copies of some of your personal pictures enjoyed them. My goal is to see that no Hannah sailor ever has to pay $399 to get thier cruisebook. The books and the memories belong to the men who served.

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Charlie...My wife and I take our boat across to Catalina Island and tie up in Avalon harbor for the weekends quite often. They have sea lions that swim around in the shallow harbor near the rows of tie ups and if you're not careful, they will jump up onto your swim step and get into the boat to rummage for food. We made the mistake of luring in a baby sea lion and fed him some leftovers on the boat. BIG mistake! We left the boat to go onto the island for the afternoon and when we came back, there he was down in the cabin. They can be quite destructive when they're foraging, and their table manors are absolutely abysmal.

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Wayne, My cousin caught a small seal when he was stationed a Port Huneme. You would have to know Jerry , he took it home and put it in the bathtub. His 2 young boys were all for it. when his wife Sue got home their was hell to pay. Jerry was thinking he could keep it like a stray dog. he got it out of the tub and a kept it a couple days. he said that thing had stinking breath and I took it back to the beach. He was in the Seabee's and I think I was on the Hanna and never saw him at that time....Charlie

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Hi, Guys! Just wanted to stop by and let you all know that absolutely nothing happened today. The weather is nice here in So.Cal. but still...nothing happened! Sorry for ranting about my boredom. I guess I hate wasting a beaurtiful day just sitting around.

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Ken, Marvin Shields was in SeaBee Team 1104 with Army Special Forces in 1965. That means he was was with one of 4 teams deployed from a Battalion 11, They were at the rubber plantation as a MAG group with S Nam troops. It was a big combined push from NV regulars and VC. they sent in 173 Airborne who lost a lot of men and my unit flew it to cover medi-vac ships. but could only go in when they secured airstikes and artillery. we carried rocket pods that mission....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal..net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958=1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng rm.
Date: 28 Aug 2010
Time: 17:03

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sorry Charle, see what they are saying. it's a award giving annuly in honor of Marvin Shields. later ken.

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Charlie, read a little about Marvin Shields and Jesse Scherer. they are talking about iqua and aftganistan. goggle said Marvin received the medal of honor. and the great job both men did. hey how are you doing. ken

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USS Marvin Shields FF1066, the only ship named after a SeaBee. He was a 3rd class that got killed wining the Medal of Honer in Vietnam....Charlie

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Dennis, I have no idea how you got that engine in that Volvo. I had a cousin that had a blue one. It was a tough little nut and reminded me of a 48 Ford in body style. his was new at the time. he lived in Dallas. you never seen foreign cars in Paris....Charlie

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Wayne, I know they had a lot of Cobras, they were trying to sell stuffed ones in a lot of places. I remember the 3 wheeled rickshaws. I just walked around to get out of our hotel room. I didn't go to any bars, I had my Gal with me and we ate at a little place. We stopped by a place that sold jewelry and she would bargain the price. they had so many big stones in them they looked unreal but she told me it was a bargain. I bought several of them pretty cheap for my wife. When I got back to the States I took my wife with me down to have them checked out. He went crazy, he looked at them in that little spy glass and said I have never seen so many rubys of this size in one place. you even have blue ones that are hard to find. My wife had him make more rings out of them in better gold. When she died I gave them to Mom, She loved them and when she died she gave them to my sister that introduced me to Sarah to start with. Is't it funny how some things go in circles..Charlie.

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Wayne I got married my last yr on the Hanna, I had to put a special request chit in to do so. She was from Fresno. I never discussed Liberty with her. I just rode around on the Hanna for 6 mos and came home. She knew better but never brought it up. She was PG with my oldest son when when we we shifted colors. she staid with my Mom while I was gone. I think she knew Sailors had their recreation while overseas but it wasn't like she was going to lose me over some gal. She knew me pretty good. and stuck by me faithful for 16 yrs before she died of Spinal Meng. I think she caught it in a crowd when I took her to a Mardi Gras parade. it was fast, 2days later I had to pull Sgt of the Guard at the CB base and told her I wouldn't be home that night and she said she was going back to bed that she thought she had the flu. they called me form the hospital and the Dr had her on life sauport and didn't know if she was dead or not...Charlie

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Charlie... Ahhhh, Bangkok! What an interesting town. Ever visit Cleopatra's Spa? Nuff said. While walking thru town we were constantly accosted by the three wheeled rickshaw drivers. I swear we must have had the word "Pigeon" tattooed on our foreheads! The Pat Pong was a sailor's dream, with all the clubs and floor shows that part of town had. Thank God I wasn't married then. We stayed at the Sheraton Hotel out by the airport and we found out that the #1 driver for the hotel was the former chauffeur for the commander of the air base at Ubon. We wanted to go to the beach village of Pattaya south of Bangkok. That town has two main streets with open air night clubs that you had to walk through to get to the beaches. Most of those clubs were owned by foreign military retirees who married local girls to be able to own property. Those girls were treated like queens and the bar owners went fishing all day long on one of the owner's yacht. What a life!

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Dennis, I was thinking the same thing about the VW, way to much weight in the front. those tailpipes must be for looks? their way to small for an engine like that. I sure enjoyed the pics of the Chevy, mine was black also with a white top. that black is hard to keep clean. Dad got it at a bargain because he knew nothing about a 3/4 race cam and told the salesman he was going to have to give it a valve job. The previous owner put a lot of money into it. It had a 4 main bearing block and the dipstick was in the wrong place to be the original engine. I knew a 55 dosen't have a 4 bl carb and it had the big heads on it. It could have been a souped up vet engine...Charlie

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Wayne, that was a small block Chevy and I believe it was a stroker which made it some where a 383CI engine, that plus the blower on it and being in a VW bug it was a pretty awesome car, But not enough weight to keep it on the ground so it spun the wheels a lot on take off. Dennis

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Dennis... That was the coolest VW I think I have ever seen! What size was the V8 under the hood? The other cars were beautiful too. A friend of mine and I ride our motorcycles to the various car shows that we have here in Southern California, and it always amazes me the level of perfection that some of these guys attain in rebuilding these wrecked old hulks. The Good Guys rod and custom show that they have at the Del Mar racetrack is my favorite show. You can spend two days at that show and not see all of the cars. I fell in love with a hunter green, 1938 Chevy coupe with a 455 Olds engine in it. The sound that motor made was music to the ears. I asked the owner what he could sell it for and he told me, "About $10,000.00 less then it cost me to build it."

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng rm.
Date: 26 Aug 2010
Time: 16:41

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Helmut, Pete, and everybody. just didn't get togeather before i sent it and xo ken.

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charlie, phil, wayne,dennis,wayne2 hey i enjoy reading ya'll post. can't really get into because i don't know. keep it going. when i wake up in morning first thing i do is see what you guys are saying. it's all good. later ken.

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My great grandfather moved to Paris Tx because E Tx really had a cotton boom. when he was young and left his Dad and mom in Ok and met my great grandmother and thats where my Dad and the rest of the family are from. The have all died off and my cousins son and my sons kids are about all that are left to carry our name. for some reason the Ridens had a lot of Girls. at least they produced a lot of blonds and redheads to make people misrable....Charlie

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Phil, my Great Great Grandfather was a guard on the Ft Sill reservation. He took a Comanche Squaw and went to Stepenville Tx. He was Scandinavian. my Great Grand mother was from Ms and didn't like My Great Grand Father talking about our Indian blood. She thought it was shameful. Her Dad was a riverboat Cap. on the Ms river. Her dad brought her to Tx because many yrs after the Civil War, Ms had a hard time recovering. My Great Great Grand Father took her and they moved to Madil Ok and he opened up a successful leather shop...Charlie

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Charlie: The Taos area is considered high desert country as it is at 7,000 foot elevation and used to have cheap land but not anymore. All of the Indian reservation in the area are part of the Anassazi pueblo dwellers and each has their own Casino, so if you go there and miss the exit, don't worry there is another at the next exit sometimes within sight. I believe there are 17 pueblos in the northern part of the state. The Taos pueblo group is called Tewa. I have a little native American in me from both side of the family as well as German and Spanish. Maybe that is why I tend to go on the warpath every now and then, the good part is it usually only last about 20 minutes. The Taos area is now full of the Hollywood idiot crowd and left over hippes from the 60's plus a whole covey of artists

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Dennis, thanks for the pics, I really enjoyed the DVDs. I got a much welcomed e-mail from Jim. he wasn't feeling real good. Sometimes I think I'd feel better if I trashed mine. they make me sleepy and knock the wind out of my sails. I think I'm going to cut down gradually and see what differance it makes. Drs have a pill for everything....Charlie

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Phil, many yrs ago I got a thing in the mail from a land developer selling blocks of land not to far from Taos. I think they were about 20 acres of undeveloped land that had roads pushed but no water. It was cheap but water was my concern. It was desert surrounded by mountains. I've never been there. I think Chief was from Albuquerque. His Dad had a pawn shop but died and his brothers ran it. what tribe is there? I don't think the city was very big then. I liked him, he loved to barter. He could have went out and got his own seashells if he wanted. I think it was more like a poker game to us. He did take his Indian Heritage serious but a happy go lucky guy if something didn't put him on the warpath. but we're all that way....Charlie

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Charlie: you are right on the money, New Mexico Chiefs are hard to swap or barter or even buy anthing from unless the get to know you or perhaps a few beers won't hurt. I am at the Northern part of the state 130 miles North of Albuquerque, in the ancient town of Taos where Kit Carson roamed during his hey day. I inherited the property from my uncle which used to be by great, great grandfather's. It is real quiet and peaceful there with an ocassional visit from bears and coyotes at night but be on the lookout for rattle snakes during the day. Phil

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Wayne, I didn't have but a week R&R in Thailand I didn't travel around much. I looked around Bangkok some. after 6mos on Diego stuck with Seabees It was good to see there was other people still left on earth. There was 4 of us and we all rented separate rooms in an conditioned hotel and didn't see much of each other. we were on the 2nd floor and got together drinking beer with our gals and there was a pool below us. us guys dove off into the pool a couple times and the manager came out raising Cain with us. I couldn't understand a word the little guy was saying but he got his point across. One B had an English gal.we were all brown from the sun and she was white as printer paper. I thought she was a little weird but she probably thought we were nuts....Charlie

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Charlie... Whenever I go into another country, it takes me about three days to get used to the levels of poverty I see. Thailand was probubly the worst that I saw, out in the country side anyways. The kids are the ones that put me in line with the normal way of things. They have no idea how bad they have it, but they're all smiling! It doesn't take much to make their day. Trinkets that you give them put them in the tall cotton. Sticks of street vendor bar-b-cue work well, since lack of food is probubly their biggest problem. After about three days I feel like Santa Claus. You do have to watch them though. When they're crowding around you, you can get your pocket picked.

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2010 Membership Expirations. Above your name on the address label of the Hannah Newsletter is a statement saying when your membership expires. I have already sent out over 200 e-mails to those who have an address reminding them. I will be sending postcard reminders to those who don't have e-mail. Bottom line is, if you don't renew your membership, The Sep issue of the Newsletter wil be your LAST ONE! $20 is a small price to pay for membership, when you consider you get TWO years, 8 Newsletters, and of course, can come to the mini-reunions or bi-annual reunions. You also have access thru me to names and addresses of your old shipmates, if they are are or were members. There are no new HANCOCK sailors being made, so it is up to us, the old guys, to keep the name of our ship alive, and remember all of the shipmates we served with. Come on guys, give a little help to the handful of us who are working daily to keep this associaton alive.

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NEW MEMBERS since those listed in the Sep Newsletter: Greg Braunig, OI, RD3, 66-70; Robert Parmacek, Ops, LTJG, 54-55; Joe Stevens, VA-212, ADJ3, 73-74; Thomas Trukawinski, E(EM1), 54-57. If you want their contact information before the December Newsletter, e-mail me at the above address. Welcome aboard shipmates.

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MORE LIFE MEMBERS AND NEW MEMBERS. The following new Life Members will never have to be bothered again about paying dues: #407 Roy Lucas, VF 124, 55-56; #408 Frank Ramerez, B 54-55; #409 Dan Haggerty, Weps/Nav, YN3, 72-75. Check out the Sep Newsletter to see the FIFTY ONE (51) new Life members in the past 3 months. Why not you?

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Phil, my Indian buddy was hard to swap with until we got a bunch of beers in us, He would get mad the next day because I beat him. but would come for some more swapping until I ended up with all his turquoise. That man could carve. we had the only sea hut with a tot-um pole and New Mexico Indians don't even have them. everone called him Chief and he was a 2nd class builder, our Chief even called him Chief...Charlie

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Phil, where are you going in New Mexico, I've driven threw it many times yrs ago and liked it. We had an Indian in the CB's that was from there, he had several large medicine bottles with polished turquoise in them. I would break out my box of seashells I had found. I made a little box of rabbit wire and bury it and let the ants clean them out....Charlie

Name: phil Torres
Email_Address: phil.torres@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1965-1968
Division_Squadron_Detachment: E Div IC Gang
Date: 25 Aug 2010
Time: 10:22

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Charlie: you should have had that rebar cage shipped stateside as we now have plenty of nutjobs cases we could be putting in it , of course it would probably have to be put in dry dock for a major overhaul and enlargement to fit today's world. Phil

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Rob: I know you said not to respond until after 15 Sept but I most likely won't be around my computer around that time as I will be in New Mexico for a couple of months. We spent the longest at sea period because of the Ranger. I will side with you buddy on the Midway but at least you got a benifit out of it being bldg 61, can't beat a cold Asahi. I worked on the Midway 3 years as a civilian at Hunters pt. during it's overhaul. The Ranger is going to Oregon as a museum. have a good time in Seattle. Phil

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Wayne, I put 4 yrs fleet, 5 Army and 11 Seabees and had to go to boot camp in each, I thought I was going to have enough time in boot camp to retire. Boot camp was a lot easier on me mentally after leaving the Hanna because I knew what they were doing. Jungle Warfare In Panama was the hardest. AF desert survival at Edwards was a cake walk. Seabees go to Camp Shelby for crew served weapons qualifications. they also go to Camp Pendleton and train with Marines. I had already been threw tanker school at Ft Hood and the Marines were telling us how to knock a tank out with a LAW. I told him I might knock a school bus out with one but I ain't going to PO no tank off, you guys would charge one with fixed bayonets. LAW means Light Armored Weapon....Charlie

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Wayne In hind sight I liked the Hanna the best, The Army the least, I liked the SeaBees a lot. they sent us to places to build facilities prior to the Navy or Marines moving in. Diego Garcia is a little coral atoll 3 degrees S of the equator in the middle of the Indian Ocean. It's owned by the Britt's and used to be a coconut plantation. I think we have a 99 yr lease on it. The bad part about it was we were the only ones there and it was 1400 miles from the nearest woman.my 1st job was to make a small cage out of #9 rebar they lined with mattress's in case someone went nuts. I've never heard of them useing it.....Charlie

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Charlie... I'm curious. Which part of the different branches of service was your favorite? I would think it may have been the SeaBees, but maybe not. You speak a lot of Diego Garcia. That's just a high spot in the middle of the ocean, isn't it? I thought that it was a British base.

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Wayne, I saw a documentary on TV about slave children in Thailand that was very disturbing. But back to subject didn't Air America with was CIA fly into Bangkok during Nam. I met a Marine that was in Vietnam working some of the delta a long time after I left and is moveing back with his wife and 2 kids. He speaks the language....Charlie

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Wayne I'm thinking It was my 2nd trip to Diego Garcia in about 75 when I was there. all us round eyes had to wear civilian clothes so really you didn't know who you were talking to for real. The Bs were pushed to get Diego finished to relive Military communication stations in a lot of places. After we got the Communications building constructed civilians came in and put their electronics stuff in and that part was restricted. I guess they got enough satellites up to do away with the U-2s...Charlie

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Charlie... I was in Thailand in March of "86 for two weeks. While in Bangkok, I ran into a DEA agent in a joint called the Fire Cat Club in Pat Pong. He used to go on recon trips into North Vietnam durring the war and decided that he couldn't go home to the world afterwards. He joined the Drug Enforcement Agency and told his wife good bye and went into drug interdiction in the Golden Triangle. He was recuperating from a knife wound when I met him, but I think he had more to worry about from his girl friend who caught him butterflying in another club and was out to cut his gonads off.

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Ken, we've been getting enough rain. I've got all the paperwork done to get back into the Naval Home but going threw all the papers I have on hand sorting and throwing out what's not important to keep anymore is a pain. I sure miss my sons GF that would take care of all that. She knew more about my business than I did. I'm not much of a paper work type of guy. I'll be happy to get back in the Naval Home and start a new life and and let their HQ worry about it. Theres not much I can do until I get my room. I drag stuff out and stuff in back in somewheres noing I'm going to have to do a lot of down sizing. I keep wanting to get rid of stuff and my son say's he might want it. I was going to get rid of my Kevlar CB vest and he said he wanted it. . my genuine imitation Viking sword the Home won't let me have. everything will fall in place in time. my most concern is CuJo, that's going to break my heart. She's on the patio barking running the VC off....Charlie

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Rob, I remember the AMC's. I was thinking about muscle cars on was on the drag strip in the late 50"s and through the 60's when I used to go to the Drag strip or the streets of Paris TX. We had a Drag Strip it Paris and a NHA association sanctiond one in Caddo Mills TX not to far off. I was more into the sportsman class that were street leagl. I had a pretty hot 55 Chevy, I run it a couple times on the strip but I seen to many blow their engines or rear ends to keep punishing it....Charlie

Name: ROB MORIS
Email_Address: 2rnk1612@cox.net
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1957 - 1958
Division_Squadron_Detachment: VA 116
Date: 24 Aug 2010
Time: 16:47

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Phil Torres, yours of 8/23. Dont knock Bldg 61. I was aboard her for that one. She should never have left Alameda. We had 2 boilers most of the way to Subic. we lost 1 of them. Think top speed was 14 kts. No inspection in Hawaii because of it. As I remember 2 weeks at Subic getting the 2nd boiler back on line then to Yokosuka. think we were there for 6 weeks while the yard workers overhauled all of them. The squadrons were sent to Atsugi and self and buddy were left aboard to guard [?] spaces. The Olympics were on and all we had to do was to ask welfare for tickets we wanted, any venue. All it cost us was the train fare to them. And the cost of our Asahi. Had a buddy on the Midway, he still hasen't forgiven me for their extension to cover us. Am just about the door for a trip to Seattle so please hold your replies until after Sept 15 thanks. Smooth sailing Shipmates! Rob

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HAVENT BEEN HERE FOR A BIT . SEE THAT I NEED TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS - DENNIS, re; yours of 8/21. the Hudson "Terraplane" also had a gated [ " H " letter shifter on the right side of the steering column, in 1937. Shift lever was only about 1 1/2 in hi. Think maybe also in 36 but not sure of that. Believe it was cable operated. Made 2 trip from Kerrville Texas to San francisco in the 37. had sucide doors , dont open them while crusing ! CHARLIE, re; yours of 8/21. don't forget one of the first production cars in the muscle brackets. The AMC Rambler REBEL, and the AMC MADATOR. Bobby Allison drove the Madator in NASCAR races in 1975. continued _ _ - -- -

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Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div.aft. eng. rm.
Date: 24 Aug 2010
Time: 15:05

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charlie, everything got quite. don,t know about old miss. old tex. has got hot and dry. heck we should be used to that at 70. end of aug. got your stuff ready to go too naval home? bet you do and counting the days. later ken

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Wayne, When we were in the yards in Bremerton the lagers had dust flying everywhere. We didn't have any superheated steam in the 02 plant but used steam to gas of lox for guys to fill cylinders in the hangerbay. the steam lines would knock when we opend the valve to use it until the line heated up. I didn't go to Thailand until after Nam fell and was in the B's. they flew us to Utapow where the AF had U2's. and went to Bancock from there on R&R from Diego Garcia...Charlie

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Helmut...I never knew that a steam line break ever happened on the Hancock. When we were in Hunter's Point in '71 for a refit, we were taking apart those main steam lines and finding some pretty thin places in the steel. Also steam cuts in the metal flange connections and partially blown out flex-seals. I KNOW that I was covered in lagging debris(Asbestos?). I keep waiting for that shoe to drop. Boiled cockroaches are a delicacy in some countries. In Thailand, they have street vendors that have a large burlap sack under their rolling woks. The sacks are full of live grasshoppers. They dump a hand full of these live grasshoppers into boiling oil. The grasshoppers come out of the oil bright red and the locals eat them like french fries. I kept loosing my appetite on the way to restaurants while passing these carts.

Name: Helmut Umbley
Email_Address: humbley502@aol.com
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1964-66
Division_Squadron_Detachment: VA-216
Date: 23 Aug 2010
Time: 10:37

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Phil, I believe it was a festive atmosphere and strains of La Cucaracha could be heard.

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Helmut That does bring back memories of the 600 lb steam line giving way, I believe it was in #2 boiler rm. I had been onboard about three months.Some of the deck plates buckled, the tile in the mess deck area popped up and of course some of the phone and power cables going through the area melted. We dropped anchor and floated for a couple of day until the steam line was repaired while the destroyers escorts circled around us. The repairs were done on the spot, unlike when something went wrong with Bldg 61 aka, USS Ranger CVA 61. I'M wondering, did any politician ever launch an environmental impact study to find out if the cockroaches died in a humane way, maybe they injested asbestos fibers from the 9 x 9 floor tiles or suffered heat stroke before doing the dying cockroach dance.

Name: Tim Mullen
Email_Address: timcathy_mul@msn.com
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 64-66
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V-2 AG
Date: 23 Aug 2010
Time: 09:07

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The daughter of Reynaldo "Rabbit"Navarro contacted me too. I looked him up in the 64-65 cruisebook. He worked in S-6 because that is what group I had a picture of him. I sent an email to the two s-6 shipmates who are members. If they reply to her, that is there business. I got a reply from her saying it wasn't him, but when you look at the photo and the photo she sent, they sure look the same. It is possible that he was there in 64-65 and then got himself out of S-6 to the more interesting place, the flight deck, for the 65-66 cruise.

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Wayne Durefy, your Aug.22 post about venting the engine room brought back memories. In May 1965 I was TAD to S-3 Div. and worked in the laundry. We were steaming to Pearl from Subic Bay when a steam line burst in the boiler room below the laundry. All the Snipes bailed out and secured the hatch. We kept working in the laundry for another couple of hours until the deck plates got too hot to stand on. Hancock drifted for a day or two. I always wondered who vented the engine room. It must have been like dropping a lobster into a boiling pot. When the steam vented it peeled the paint off the galley bulkheads and killed all the cockroaches.

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Wayne, I live between 2 Military bases. The young Military people are really well trained on hi-teck stuff, even grunts. the only gripes I've heard was they don't like the way our Gov is run. We are a very divided Country, "We The People" are not listened to in DC. Our troops are deployed to long into Nation Building. Vietnam is a lot better off now since we got out. we can't force our ways on them no more than one State can force it's way of life on another. I'd like them to send a few Battalions of Sea Bees and Marines to clean up our own border and when they got done with the drug cartels they could go to the beer tents beat the crap out of each other:)....Charlie

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Wayne to me we got ourselves trapped into a Religious War. We should have let Iraq kick Iran's butt many yrs ago. and let the whole bunch have their Civil War. the UN keeps getting us into these messes. Their plan is to bankrupt us like Reagan did the Soviet Union with star wars. Our Country is flooded with "dope" they don't call it "smart" for a reason...Charlie

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That would be great XO, hope I'm in the Navy Home when you and Gay do, It will impress y'all with all the facility's it has for us Vets....Charlie

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David, welcome, some of us get a little rodie sometimes but come aboard. the Hanna was a special ship. ken

Name: David L. Gjestson
Email_Address: gjestson@yousq.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1964-67
Division_Squadron_Detachment: W-Division
Date: 22 Aug 2010
Time: 14:33

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Looking for shipmates. Fun hearing from Tinoco and Roberts. CDR. Barnes, Simon, Gros, where are you? Lately, the daughter of Reynaldo "Rabbit"Navarro contacted me looking for anyone that knew her dad. He was a deckhand (AN) serving about 65-66. Anyone know this guy?

Name: Tom Wimberly
Email_Address: twimbo@aol.com
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1970-72
Division_Squadron_Detachment: Ship's XO
Date: 22 Aug 2010
Time: 13:31

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Gay and I will try to make Branson next year. Charlie, it has been my intention to stop by and see you if I ever travel that way again.

Name: Henry A. McCormick
Email_Address: henry.mccormick82@gmail.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1961-1964
Division_Squadron_Detachment: B-Div.#4&1 Firerooms
Date: 22 Aug 2010
Time: 12:43

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The air comming out of our supply air vents was 100 deg. f. We burned bunker c fuel oil, so our furnace temp., was close to 3000 deg. f .. The saturated steam temp. was 490 deg. f., the superheated steam temp. was between 700-850 deg. f . Most everything we toutched, was so hot , we used gloves or rags to protect our hands. All fluids used in the Boilers were pre-heated. I think, 130 deg. f. space temp. is a reasonable answer. On the 62 cruise, I almost had a heat stroke firing cats, because no air was flowing, or not enough was flowing by me.Memories, Cheers, Mack

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Wayne Erven, hope to make it to Branson. i did get seavey/ shorevey after about a day. but if my chief and i go to branson you still need to explain. i think maybe its when you come aboard or depart. did enjoy you putting my bain cells back in motion. it is getting very hot down here with no rain. ken

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Bill Miller... Welcome aboard! On the war de jure, I had an interesting conversation with a young fellow who didn't think he should have to go to Iraq with his marine detachment. He told me that it was Bush's war and not his.(deja vu, eh?) At the end of his rant, I told him that it was just his turn. No one wants to go to war, especially the grunts. All we can do is hope that the people running the show know something that we don't and in the end, your life won't be wasted. If we are successful, there will be a couple of free baby democracies in the middle of the most troublesome part of the world. It will take the demise of this generation, in that region, to allow the children to learn a new way to live. Out with the old, in with the new. What would the world look like without the threat of Muslim terrorists? We were fairly successful in Japan and Germany, but it certainly didn't happen over-night.

Name: Wayne Durefy
Email_Address: waynedurfey@yahoo.com
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1971-1974
Division_Squadron_Detachment: M div.
Date: 22 Aug 2010
Time: 09:22

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My GQ station was repair party #5, located in a passage way just above the forward engine room. They told us that, in the event of a main steam line break in the engine room, once the steam pressure was isolated from the space we were to send one man down the escape trunk to the lower level of the engine room. He was to open the hatch to allow cross ventilation to vent out the live steam and allow for the re-manning of the engine room. Of course this would fry the poor bastard that went down the trunk the moment the hatch on the lower level was opened. Could never figure out who came up with that brillant procedure.

Name: Bill Miller MR/2
Email_Address: BillMJM@aol.com
Association_Member: .
Years_Aboard: 1968-1972
Division_Squadron_Detachment: A-Div. mach.shop
Date: 22 Aug 2010
Time: 08:24

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To all my shipmates, I wish you all fair winds & trailing seas. And we thought our war was stupid, I guess some people never learned.

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To all my shipmates, I wish you all fair winds & trailing seas. And we thought our war was stupid, I guess some people never learned.

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Tom,Old Salt, I should be all settled in at the Navy Home by Nov, I'll have to count my penny's for the mini, reunion. It will be a lot cheaper living there. 35% of my gross income, no light bill and has a galley. I sure would like to meet some of you guys....Charlie

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Ken 115 degrees in engine rooms is not an exageration, boiler rooms 120 degrees no doubt, IC Men had to go behind the boilers to set super heater alarms and that was right next to hell in temperature. You couldn't stay back there more that 2 minutes and someone else had to try their luck until the alarms were set. Checking and cleaning salinity cells was a good job to straighten out wise ass IC sailors. I had one guy learn that lesson eventually. I had my share of time spent in boiler and engine rooms with all of the IC equipment in those spaces. Phil

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BRANSON REUNION: For those interested in Branson MO mini reunion, send your name and contact info to Tom Boring, so he can make up a mailing list. I'll be there. Will even buy a couple of cases of beer for the hospitality room (or maybe something else). See ya in M0. Ken, Charlie, and Mac, wanna meet the Old Salt in the flesh? Ken, I'll teach you all about Seavey/Shorvey. Everyone, this is your chance for a Mid-West mini reunion to warm up for the Chicago reunion in 2012. It'll be great! See ya there.

Name: Larry Jones
Email_Address: ljones95370@hub3.net
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1966-68
Division_Squadron_Detachment: OE Div
Date: 21 Aug 2010
Time: 21:08

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Tom Boring:

Looking forward to Branson. God willing, we will be there and encourage as many of our shipmates as possible to join us.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddinsbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 21 Aug 2010
Time: 16:31

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Mack, how hot did it get in fire rms. Wayne said about 115 in eng. rms. ken

Name: Henry A. McCormick
Email_Address: henry.mccormick82@gmail.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1961-1964
Division_Squadron_Detachment: B-Div#4&1 Firerooms
Date: 21 Aug 2010
Time: 16:10

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Thanks, Tom Boring, for the information on the mini-reunion next year. Several of us have an interest. Talk about hot in the hole, we put stage board's in our furnaces, to stand on , when cleaning firesides, to keep from burning our feet. The back wall would still be a dark red, when we went in-side. We also wore two sets of dungrees, to keep the hot water from burning us, as we water washed the tubes. That is how we removed the scale. Our clothes always turned white with salt, due to the extreme heat. Memories, Cheers, Mack

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Dennis I think the race to start building mussel cars got on the planing board Studebaker's Hawk and Chevy came out with that Power Pack 283 in 56 with the big heads and 4 bl. I'm thinking it was a 61 Plymouth that was the ugliest car known to man.My Dad used to call a 59 Impala a bat mobile...Charlie

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Dennis, my aunt in Hondo that passed away 10 days ago. she has one plymounth or dodge with the push button shift on left side of dash. had a slant 6 in it. people in town would tell my aunt why don't you get rid of that old car. she would tell them i do have the money to do that. i like my old stuff. ken

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The Chrysler push button drive mounted on the dash was hooked to a cable that worked the transmission and they had very little trouble with it. The old 1936 Cord had a stubby lever on the steering column with a gated switch (like a shift pattern) and you would shift the transmission with that, I never looked underneath to see what the switch controlled but the button idea was not a new one for automobiles. Dennis

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Charlie, Ford came out with the Edsel to compete directly with the Oldsmobile and lower end Buick that GM had. I think that "Horse Collar" grill is what helped kill it. As the cars got several years old one of the big problems is the push buttons would work small motors or servos on the transmission to shift it. They would get wet and up North get salt in them causing all kinds of grief for the owners. Just like the retractable hardtops, too many servos and motors that had to work in correct sequence or it would fail and no one but the dealer had anyone that knew how to work on them. Now those that still own them know how to fix their own. Dennis

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Helment I sat in a new Edsel a new car show I'm thinkin in 9/57 when all the new cars that when all 58's were unvailed to the public. It was a 2dr hardtop, it was ugly as a cowpatty. it had a hot engine and the the 1st thing that struck me was was the push button drive in the center of the stearing wheel. all the cars came out with dual headlights. It was a high $ car. I think it had mostly Mercury running gear. I wish Chevy would have just upgraded their 57's.....Charlie

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Charlie... The reason MM's were such a critical rate was that no one wanted to spend their carreer in a 115 degree engine room. Thank God for the main exhuast vents above the turbines! They sucked a lot of hot air out of those spaces...and not just the watch supervisors sea stories. (Are you out there Tony Palomino?) We had a 150 lbs auxilary steamline flex gasket start leaking and the temperature shot up to over 130 degrees untill we located it. We stood 15 minute watches and pumped down water and salt tablets like they were candy. When I took off my shirt, it stood up in the corner from the hardened salt when it dried out. I can't imagine what a main steam line rupture would be like, but I bet it's the closest think to hell you could experiance.

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To Wayne Durfey, The netting was steel cable so it was flexible and it went across the front edge and also around the launch ramps at the bow. From there you could watch dolphins or flying fish when they would run with us and Yes it was a very quiet peaceful place to ride especially when we were cruising up between the PI Islands because it was at a much slower speed than usual. Having a second degree sunburn in that heat and humidity was not something you ever want to experience but it does teach you a good lesson. Dennis

Name: TOM BORING
Email_Address: Texastom95@aol.com
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1968-1970
Division_Squadron_Detachment: S-6 Division
Date: 21 Aug 2010
Time: 09:00

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Charlie, CC sounds like a good place to have the 2013 Mini-reunion. Thanks for the suggestion.

TOM BORING

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Tom I always wished they would have one aboard the Lex In CC where the XO is. I would like to go aboard a Carrier again, It's not landlocked and Sailors can see water. I haven't been there for yrs but loved it when I was. I've had it on my mind for a while to fly back there with Toni when she comes to visit.....Charlie

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A post was made regarding a mini-reunion being held at BRANSON, MO. YES, it is going to happen. The REUNION is scheduled for MAY 10-14, 2011. Brief details in September Hanna News Full Detaills in December Hanna News including registration forms. Our own USS Hancock BRANSON Mini-Reunion Web Site is coming which will be evolving and provide updated information. This reunion is not a part of the regular Hancock Association Reunion.

TOM BORING

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can't get no better, ya'll the people that was on the fightin Hanna. going to bed ken

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Helmut, i wish i owned one when they came out us young ones would make fun of their grill. their was a lot of jokes. at least it was honest. have you heard of a mini reurion in bronson. have a good nite ken

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Ken, I think she was always ready to get underway unless she went cold iron in the yards or home port. we had 3 section liberty so 2/3 of the crew would be aboard. when we went 2 section libery 1/2 could beat feet. but we still didn't have 1/2 a crew because we burned up leave time and that didn't count for numbers aboard.I went through pads of secial requst chits for 72's. Chife didn't care because we were shut down as long as someone was around to watch over the 02 space. It was a resticted area with a sign on the hatch and all we had to do was lock it up. In the yards the sand crabs took it over and we would just be in the way...Charlie

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Edsels were made by Ford. The two expensive models were made on Mercury assembly lines and the two cheaper models were made on Ford assembly lines. They were sold in Mercury showrooms.

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Helmut, still looking at edsels, very good pictures, can't remember where they made by gm or ford? sorta looks like my 60 impala. ken

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Charlie, she was always ready for sea duty even in port. i know she kept 1 gen. going maybe more don,t know.don,t know a hoe lot but i think she could depart in a short time. think you and dennis. had that happen. i never did. ken

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Welcome aboard Robert, enjoy the cruise. Hanna was a big Gal and put a lot of yrs in, I really enjoy listening to Shipmates in different Dept's tell thier views during thier time. I was aboard her in easy times. Dennis thanks for the dvd's, I know what I'll be doing tonight....Charlie

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Dennis I tried to get as much sunlight as possible. The fire rooms by nature were a hot dirty job. I thought they had the worst on the ship. that's why so many crossed over to MMs and wanted into A div or the engine room. My crow had a ships screw on it but I didn't have anything to do with with main propulsion. MMs were a critical rate and coverd a broad area of jobs, I made rate rapid fire because there were no shore duty billits and they were stuck at sea forever. of course you had to pass your practical factors and take the fleet exam. I studied the 3&2 hard because I was working in a field that had to doubletime to keep up with the rest of the rate. very few of them ever saw the inside of a 02 plant...Charlie

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Dennis... The netting that went around the flightdeck was steel, wasn't it? I remember on my first cruise that we were comming into the P.I. and we were about a half day out of Subic. I had never been to the Philippines before, so I slid down the round-down on the front of the flight deck and stood in the net, leaning back onto the round down. It was probubly the prettiest part of that cruise, sailing down between the islands on both sides of the ship. No noise, just wind and the clear sunshine. I burned second degree over half of my body that day and didn't realize it was happening. My first time ashore in Olongapo and I was miserable.

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Ray, It sound's like you have some much needed info that someone was looking for. during my days I don't think we ever had to take on ordnance at sea, that stuff is heavy, I was on a working party once in SF bay when they brought it to us on barges. those coffee cans the sidewinder missle explosives were in were passed in a chain gang. the bombs were put on the flight deck by crane. I have no idea about the nukes...Charlie

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Wayne Ervin, you might be right. i looked at deceased members. their is Earl Wright and a James Wright, maybe the chief and 1st.class had same last names. i think my 1st class was James, they both passed away in 07 5 months apart. Dennis i felt for the BT's also had to stand gen. watch sometimes they where in the fire rms it was hot down their even if we where not at sail. ken

Name: RAYMOND SIMKUNAS
Email_Address: raysim47@yahoo.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 67/71
Division_Squadron_Detachment: B DIV/ ADIV
Date: 20 Aug 2010
Time: 12:12

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TO S KIP520@YAHOO.COM I WAS ON BOARD WHEN THIS INCIDENT HAPPENED.WE COOLIEDED WITH THE FAST COMBAT SUPPORT SHIP USS CAMDER AOE2 WHILE TAKING ON STORES AND AMMO WE LOST TWO AIRCRAFT CI TRADER/ F8 CRUSADER . IWAS WALKING THROUGH THE HANGER BAY WHEN THIS OCCURED.THE HOSE LINES GOT TANGLED WITH TWO AIR CRAFT IN THESTARBOARD SIDE BOTH AIRCRAFT LANDED ON THE BOMBS BEING SENT OVER TO OUR SHIP THE CI WAS UPSIDE DOWN AND THE F8 WAS ON TOP . IHEARD BOTH AIR CRAFT WERE REPAIIRED. I HAVE A PICTURE SOMEWHERE IN MY FILE.

Name: Robert S. Schoch
Email_Address: bobs3581@yahoo.com
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1963-1965
Division_Squadron_Detachment: Supply-6
Date: 20 Aug 2010
Time: 12:08

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Avation Supply Dept.

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Kenneth, I got to thinking about sleeping on the catwalk and then I thought you probably looked like a waffle iron when you got up. The good thing about that and the net we slept in under the ramp was you got a real nice breeze when we were in the PI which was a lot more than below decks. I used to feel very sorry for the BT's when they would come up for chow and were pale as a ghost and sometimes had big boils on their backs from plugged sweat glands. Made me glad I was up on the top decks. Dennis

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Ken you left about the time I came aboard...Charlie

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Wayne Erven, thanks for info.. when i left Hanna in june of 60 at that time Earl Wright was our 1st. class MM i think promotion where being made at that time. our CMM name was hensley henderson are something like that. do not remember Seavey/Shorevey. ken

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Wayne, I pulled a couple burial details In the Army, Taps already had people crying and when we fired our weapons in salute the kin would flinch. we had M14's. Do you have a way to see what ever happen to MMC Atwood. he was one heck of a great guy, I don't know much about him but he taught me how to play chess. I wish I wasn't afraid to sneek an Ivory chess set aboard in Hong Kong....Charlie

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My experience with Chiefs is if you gave them a honest days work and tried not to mess up to bad they would cover your butt. My 1st Class was the same way. you pick up traits from them that stay with you for life. You are broke down in boot camp to the level of a snail and the senior Po's teach you to become a Sailor. You are in a completely different environment than feeding cows in Paris TX. we did go to GQ on liberty sometimes but the Chief pulling JOD would just want us aboard out of site. you can't fool them, they've done the same thing as you at some time in their career....Charlie

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Ken, your MMC in M Div while you were on board was Earl Wright. He was on board from 56-63! Do you remember Seavey/Shorevey? That was how you got shore duty. Earl Wright passed away 27Oct07. His buddy from the same time was ENC(S) Skip Wright who was A Div 55-59. He passed 30May07. I had the priviledge of going to breakfast or lunch with both several times way back when. I live close to their homes. Lots of salty talk between some seagoing sailors. Went to both funerals as HANCOCK "Rep". Not a fun job, but both families were appreciative of someone from one of their ships showing up. Unfortunately, I don't/didn't fit into my uniform, so wore HANCOCK shirft and hat.

Name: Henry A. McCormick
Email_Address: henry.mccormick82@gmail.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1961-1964
Division_Squadron_Detachment: B-Div#4&1 Firerooms
Date: 19 Aug 2010
Time: 17:13

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I heard a whisper about a mini reunion in Branson, Mo., sometime next year, any in-put or feed back. Cheers, Mack

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charlie, you are right. i think our chief did the same thing never had one. can,t remenber his name. but our first class mm was james wright. we called him jim. would go to his house on a 72 bbq drink beer . but come back to eng. rm. he was wright ken

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dennis, you where their at same time. bet ya'll wonder them idoits are snipes. ha. ken

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Ken, Dennis saw both sides of the coin. I very seldom saw O's, maybe in a ships inspection but they didn't know what they were looking at, they just buzzed threw to get it over with. I missed most inspections of the crew in the hangar bay because Chief would put us all on watch in the plant. I have no idea who was up there from A division. I did have a Great Chief...Charlie

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dennis, charlie is right. i do not know how you retain all of this info. wright a book dennis i will buy 10 of them and give 9 to people that i like. the catwalks i tooked a nap on where on starboard side a little pass center of superstruture. little unconforable but good ken.

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I never slept on the catwalks but there was a cargo net strung below the Starboard ramp where we could park our tractors, we would flip over the railing and climb under the ramp and sleep in the net when it was hot. Some times when we were not at flight quarters I would sleep on a dolly they had that would go under the wing of an aircraft if it broke a landing strut, it had an old greasy mattress taped on it but was curved like a hammock and was great for sleeping. 65 guys in our berthing compartment made it muggy, stinky and hot in the PI so anyplace but there was good. It was quiet though two decks below the hanger and about even with # 3 elevator on the center line of the ship so in nice weather it wasn't so bad especially compared to what others had. Dennis

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Charlie, That was Rear Admiral Paul P. Blackburn, Jr. that was aboard and it was during the time we had Captain Paul K. Blesh who assumed command of the USS Hancock December of 1961. He was the Captain I had the pleasure of driving for and was quite a guy. Stern but very fair. He treated me like a son and watched out for me. In return I covered his butt a couple of times when he had too much at the O Club and I would get him back aboard without any of the crew seeing him, even if it meant wrapping him in a bed sheet and carrying him aboard like a dead body. He just could not let any Marine officer try and out drink him overseas, He never lost but usually didn't get back to the ship before he was asleep. That guy just did not like Marines for some reason. Dennis

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Ken, the catwalks didn't look like a good place to sleep. below decks did get hot, I have no idea how the air-dales that had a birthing area in the loft slept, I went up there to visit Dykes, It was so hot and the noise from air-ops you could't here yourself think. thats when I brouht him down to the 02 plant and it was a different world to him. we had plenty air coming down from topside in about a 2 1/2ft vent for our compressor. He never slep there but came down to get a break. I think I had about the best job there was on the Hanna....Charlie

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Wayne, she's not the one I saw. I looked her up,she didn't join west pack until 66 from what I read. Her superstructure is way to big. She was a nuke. the one I saw was an older class. I never did like Okinawa. we anchored off it and used liberty launches. I got knocked in the bushes at the landing and didn't even know I was in a fight. I guess Hanna's crew needed a Little exercise waiting for the launch. they were beating the heck out of each other. The JOD just waved us on without requesting permission to come aboard. I could be wrong but I think the the same cruiser and sub, tied up in Yokuska with us just before the big operaion Dennis was saying....Charlie

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you guys or something else. enjoyed it all. i guess i was in aft. eng. rm. wayne, henry you where down their also. when i came top side would go to cat walk by the guns.lay down and have a good nap. i would have the inprint on my back, but it was a cool nap. ken

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The Cruiser, I remember was the USS Long Beach CGN-9. My reasoning is, as She operated off our starboard, She didn't have smoke stacks, also not many of the crew, was on deck, because it had air conditioned. When we received fuel and stores, there was a lot of people above decks, enjoying the breeze. I remember the HMS Ark Royal. She was with us in Buckner Bay, White Beach, Okinawa. Memories, Cheers, Mack

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Dennis, I saw him in the hangar bay drunk as an EM, He had his staff escorting him. at ease and carry on were the only words I ever heard him say to Sailors in the hangar deck. I have no idea why he came up the after brow going to O country. I only seen the engineering Officer once and that was when I come aboard a he sent me to 02N2, I hardy seen Officers. we worked for a Chief and what he said was good as gold.that was his job to mess with them..Charlie

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Dennis, I didn't realize the task force was that big , The Remora must have been the sub I saw. I think a lot of them must have been diverted to Manila or other ports of call after the operation. Correct me if I'm wrong but was that the yr we were flagship and had a little short Admiral aboard by the name of Blackburn, or Blackwell. He loved to party,...Charlie

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continuing The Oilers were USS Hassayampa AO 145, USS Ashtabula AO 51, USS Chemung AO 30 and USS Navasota AO 106, Repair Ships: USS Ajax AR 6, USS Hector AR 7, USS Jason AR8 SHIPS STORES: USS Griffias AF 29, USS Pictor AF 49, USS Aludra AF 55, The Submarine USS Remora SS 87 besides the other carriers and what ever the Brits and Aussies brought with them for support ships as well as several New Zeeland ships. A newspaper clip I had from Manila says it was a small task force assembled for an exercise. I would hate to see what a large one would have looked like. I do know the bars in Subic Bay were packed where you could not hardly stand let alone sit. Phill, That was the first thing that caught my eye was the fancy rope work and canvas on that cruiser, what a beauty it was. Dennis

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Charlie how about this. That was the biggest task force assembles since WWII. We also had: USS Wilkinson DL5 (Frigate), USS Dennis J. Bucklet DDR 808 (Radar Picket Destroyer), USS Jarvis DDE 799, USS Trathen DD 530,(all were Desron 19, the Greyhounds) USS Marshal DD676, USS Orleck DD886, (Desron 17 out of San Diego, The Destroyer Tenders: USS Dixie AD 14, USS Prarie AD15USS Pedmont AD17, USS Hamul AD20, USS Frontier AD25

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I think your right in our time frame, since you told me her name I looked her up and she sailed with our fleet but was out of San Diego. When I saw her tied up the boatswains had her all dolled up with with their knot and canvas thing. She looked great. I have no idea what her onboard tecs were. Our Pilots put up a shield to cover our task force as well as they did us...Charlie

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Dennis, I remember that deployment, we had a joint venture with allies to flex our mussels I think thats when Gordon's Brit carrier operated with us. that was the only time I saw a subs periscope from the Hanna, If I'm correct it was the yr Aussie's stenciled a red kangoroo in the center of the of the star on our A/C in Subic. We had a big Ships party at Grande Island, Those Aussie, are somthing else. they would fight at a drop of the hat, I don't know who went back to thier ships with the most black eyes, It was all in fun and sport....Charlie

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Dennis, Charlie, The USS Canaberra CA 70 and later designated CAG 2 in 1952 as a guided missle cruiser operated with the Hancock during the time I was on. The Canaberra used to get a big audience every time she came alongside the Hancock as she was always announced when coming alongside. It was quite a sight as it looked like a small Battleship with its 8" gun mounts. Phil

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Charlie, I remember the Cruser in Yoko and it was beauty, It operated with us when we sailed with the Aussies and the Brits in 62. I beleive it was the USS Los Angeles CA 135, about the same time we were with the USS Hornet CVA 12, USS Lexington CVA 16 , USS Ranger CVA 61, USS Forestal CV 59 and the USS Bennington CVA 20, these all operated with ups at one time or another during that time period. In 62 we pulled into Manlia Bay and launched aircraft while at anchor to impress the SEATO forces and did a demo with some sidewinders which malfunctioned during the demo by the way. plus the HMAS Albian RO 7 ( or Possibly the HMAS Melborn) and the HMS Arc Royal

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Thomas Taff, That was also a very good book, Those guys from WWII sure went through Hell and most people don't realize how much some of them endured. Every time I see a vet, I always make sure to thank them, Young and old alike. I can't imagine how some of those guys found the strength to keep going in all they had to endure. Dennis

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Thomas, I always Cruisers and Battleships were the most beautiful ship in the Navy. they were phased out before my time, I saw one Cruiser off our starboard at a distance one and then her in Yokuska when we tied up, I think Dennis told me her name once. He's a walking encyclopedia. I wish he would wright a book about the Hanna during his time. him and Jim were topside and saw a lot more than me stuffed below the armored deck...Charlie

Name: Thomas Taff
Email_Address: Thomtaff@wmconnect.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1959-1962
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V-4 DIV.
Date: 17 Aug 2010
Time: 09:18

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Dennis, I have not read the book you mentioned but just finished his 2\nd bk-Ship of Ghost.USS HOUSTON was sunk off the Java coast and the suvivors worked on Burna-Thailand Death Railway. A very good book.

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Helmut, I always wanted a log cabin. modern one's are very expensive. up Pete's from a lot of people replace the foot of their outboards with a jet drive that fish rivers because the rocks tare props up. I was going to get one but was told they burn twice as much gas and the screen would stay clogged up with leafs and vegetation that are in our waters in the south...Charlie

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I visited a friend who had built a log house in Monarch,MT. The Belt Creek runs along US 89. It is cold, clear and fast flowing. It must be great for fishing. While visiting Great Falls I saw the Lewis & Clark Interperative Center, the Charles Russell Museum and the Montana Fish Hatchery on the banks of the Missouri River. The variety and size of the fish was unbelievable. This hatchery stocks all the lakes and rivers in Montana.

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Wayne, wreck diving is dangerous anyway, The Battalion Dr and I went down to a WWII sunk freighter of PR. it was in Navy controlled waters so it wasn't scavenged by civilians, The big hole in her side we swam in I think must have been caused by a torpedo. the superstructure was gone, It was spooky. When the Doc wanted me to go diving he would get me off duty telling them for me to report to his office....Charlie

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Charlie... I agree about going deep durring diving. Once you're down that deep you loose all the colors and it gets cold. On one of our earlier dives off Catalina, we found the wreck of the Valiant off of Avalon Harbor. It's stern was in about 90 feet and the bow was down at a little more then 100 feet. It sank in 1936 I believe and went down with over $100,000 worth of jewelry and cash onboard. Not much hope of finding any of it though. It burned for three days before it sank. I burnt through a tank of air in about 20 minutes on that dive.

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I remember when I saw the bomb on the Hanna, It gave me the chills because in school we were taught to get under our desk for cover. I was in Germany during the 7 day war when Israel was kicking butt in 67, I was in my tank at Fulda Gap. To be honest I see a bad moon rising where their going to do Iran "in" very soon before they produce deployable nukes. I have no idea what our Commander In Chief's ROE is. It bothers me...Charlie

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Helmut, When I lived in Colorado we used to go about 40 miles South to Pueblo and there was a man made resivour down there about 12 miles long and 3 1/2 wide, it was 128 feet deep at the dam and tapered to mud flats at the far end with lots of canyons off each side. The state used to raise Walleyes down there and sell them to other states, They also introduced "Wipers" down there which were a hybrid mix between a White Bass and a Striped Bass. They averaged about 21 to 25 inches long and when they hit they would head straight for the bottom. They gave a good fight and were just as good as Walleye to eat. They also had trout, Catfish and many other fish in there. Great place to fish on weekdays but nuts like any other spots on weekend with all the damn jet boats. What a bunch of inconsiderate jerks they were. With a lake that big they always seemed to find you and try and dig holes in the water with them right near you. Dennis

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I like fishing, When I was younger I bought a 300 weatherby. 20 Rd's at the range I could taste blood from almost havening a nose bleed. I practice at the Police range that was open ne day a week to the public and had a safety officer. everyone was glad to see me take that Cannon off the line. I think I bought it because I didn't think much of our AR15s and went a little overboard on it. Our Seabee fireing range was open to us on certain days, A Marine Gunny was in charge I let him shoot a couple rds, He said what do you plan on hunting an elephant...Charlie

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Ken, any military ID is good. I think Texas is the same way if they haven't changed it. , divers I've only dove in the tropics I have no idea how I would respond to a walrus. I guess about all you can do is give him a one finger salute and take pictures. Ca waters were cold with a lot of kelp. I think about as deep as I have gone was 100 ft, the mask squeeze and the air used wasn't worth it. I enjoyed most diving between 30-40 ft on coral reefs, I went 100 ft off Puerto Rico and it and there was nothing interesting....Charlie

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Pete... I had a similar experience off of Santa Barbara. There is an island called Bird Rock (for obvious reasons) and we were finishing up on the days dives by going after lobsters in about 30 feet of water. I was with my two partners and had used up all but about 300 lbs. of air in my tank and wanted to save what was left for the swim back. I elected to go to the surface above them and snorkel untill they were ready to head back to the boat. I felt a pretty good bump on my tank and when I turned around I came face-to-face with a big, blond, bull sea lion! I think he liked me because he kept circling me. I was a little uneasy due to him being at least twice my size, so kept my spear gun pointed at him. I think it would have only pissed him off if I had shot. He finally swam away.

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pete, them two comentes are good . have a good nite. enjoy reading all of them. ken

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Hey, two posts tonight! Wayne Durfey, memories of CA diving....off Carmel one time, I felt something punching my weight belt. I thought it was my dive buddy (wife). We were at 60 feet in the kelp bed. But she was off to my left. Turned and saw a sea lion staring at me. I was not spear fishing...had no fish...so she "bid ado." At the dive shop, I found out she had a name, Sally, and a rep for stealling fish. Hey, good pickings for her plate. Pete

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Joe Stevens, welcome aboard. I joined the squadron at the start of the '73 cruise...a young Lt on his first carrier deployment (second squadron tour). I was the NATOPS, QA, and Safety Officer during my tour with VA-212. The A-4 was a sweet bird to strap on and fly! Please join us in the Association. Pete

Fishing, guys...gave that up in my youth...could never catch anything. My father always said you had to "hold your mouth right." Never really knew what that meant, but oviously did not do it correctly:)

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charlie, just wondering you said with military id. you can fish. is that for retired militay only. are do you need a diff. card. how's about your va.card. or your dd214. ken.

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Helmut, here it is fishing license crazy, above I-10 you need fresh water below a salt water and they have a combination that covers both. if you go to La waters not far away you need to buy an endoserment for that. they usely hang out out at boat ramps to wright tickets to boats haulng out. they don't do it often. people getting license from out of state also is a ripoff. Military can fish with a ID...Charlie

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Dennis... Zebra Mussels!!! I know all about those pesky little critters. They are very likely killing the Great Lakes all by themselves. They take the air out of the water or something like that. You're right, they figure that the mussels hitched a ride on a freighter from Europe. One of my best friends in Wisconsin had a company that contracted the removal of zebra mussels from the water intake and exhaust pipes and valves that feed the various towns and companies along Lake Michigan. They gum up the works pretty bad. He had three commercial boats with divers that swam up these pipes and cleared out the mussels. Talk about being claustrophobic! It paid really well though.

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I stopped drowning worms years ago. My new neighbors from ST.Louis asked me to take them saltwater fishing. I dusted off my gear and took them to one of my father's favorite spots. I cast out the line and gave the rod to the wife telling her to slowly reel in the line. She got a strike in less than a minute. It was a 18" Stripped Bass. I got the hook out and released the fish because it was undersized. I baited the hook and cast again handing the rod to the husband. Again there was a strike in less than a minute. He reeled in a Flounder the size of a Time magazine. It was a keeper, but I released it. On the third cast the wife caught another Stripper which I released. I told her that in all the years that I fished I had never caught a Stripped Bass and she got two on her first outing. I gave up fishing again.

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Here in the New England states you must pressure wash your boat and trailer before launching in fresh water. This is to prevent paracites from hitch-hiking and infesting other waters. The ocean bottom has been depleted due to over fishing. Pretty soon you will not see Gorton's fish sticks in your supermarket freezer. The fishing fleets in Gloucester and New Bedford are hurting. I have always felt that the oceans should be free for recreational fishing. In 2011 Taxachusetts will require a saltwater fishing license. In my opinion it's only a ploy to get revenue that the politcians can squander. Luckily I'm over 65 and will get a free license. Yeah, but for how long?

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Mack that's pretty dry, It seem like weather all over has gone crazy. we had a long dry spell but have getting more rain. I like rain, it freshens everything up even the air. I think we have one coming, I need to stake Cujo out in the yard or break down and give her a bath....Charlie

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When the weeds come up we get a 30 to 50 foot ring of weeds along the beaches, they have to be dragged up on shore and dried, then they drag them off into the woods to rot away. Meanwhile while fishing you spend more time untangling your line and prop. Those lakes I mentioned at 10 to 15 feet deep also have some spots that go to 30 feet but they are few and far between. Wayne, my wife was an avid scuba diver up till she turned 64 and developed asthma. She said the average distance you can see on the inland lakes is about 3 to 5 feet, most all our lakes have what is called a Morrow bottom which is a word used to describe muck, unless someone has put in a nylon mat and then dumped tons of sand you usually don't get a "Beach" in front of a private cottage. I want to go back out to Colorado where I lived almost 30 years where the water is clear and the trout are tasty. Dennis

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Wayne, Charlie & Ken, Over the past 10 years or so we have had an infestation of Zebra Mussels that have come in the great lakes in the ballast tanks of freighters, then boaters have taken their boats from the great lakes inland. The attack the bottom and have cleaned up lakes so much that the sun gets through so much better which causes the weeds to go nuts. Now the state has introduced some kind of beetle that eats the weeds at the root which causes them to float up and gag out the lakes.

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Ken, that's why I love it here in Biloxi. we have about as much water as they do dirt. I felt land locked in my home town of Paris TX. we had a lot of ponds there, we used to shine frogs, I wasn't to good with a gig, I'd clobber with an axe handle. we have big bullfrogs there. we don't have a lot here. I think the gators get them. It's illegal to shoot turtles, but people do it anyway, thier gator food. if you get one of them on your hook you've got a fight on your hands....Charlie

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Greetings, My son gave me a 2 class crow, to wear on my Hancock hat, I think it looks great. To date, from 1st. Jan. I have cleaned 93 B M Bass, out of this lake behind my house. I'm looking forward to the fall, when it cools down. It has been so hot and dry here, the trees have started following the dogs around. Cheers, Mack

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Wayne we have Sheep head, they eat barnacles off structures. they will bite a plug out of you. our waters are to warm to have abalone. your waters are clearer but cold. I was a scuba diver, you had better be careful what you spear. You might hook onto something you can't turn lose without losing your spear gun. off Puerto Rico I hid behind a big staghorn coral as a big black tip swam by. I can sweat underwater. He paid no attention to me but I did him....Charlie

Name: Joe Stevens
Email_Address: joestevens1953@gmail.com
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1973-1974
Division_Squadron_Detachment: VA-212
Date: 15 Aug 2010
Time: 18:55

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Great Website, Looking for old shippies and wondering how there lives turned out. Met some great people when I was a young sailor who took me under their wing and sure looked out for me. I thank them for that. ADJ3 J. Stevens

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Dennis... Your fishing stories are killing me ! We have a moratorium on certain types of fishing off the California coast and it is mostly concerning shell fish and lobsters. They have been over fished off the Channel Islands so the Fish & Game people decided to let them repopulate for a few years. I was really into off-shore fishing untill I learned to scuba dive. It's like taking a chance on catching anything that swims your way or go down and pick what you want off of the shelf. We have a fish out here called a Sheepshead and it eats shellfish and abalone, so you rarely see one while fishing with bait. We take them with spear guns and the large ones can certainly drag you around for awhile! Then you have to get back to the dive boat without getting mauled by a sea lion, all the while trying not to run out of air! Now that I'm thinking about it, I wonder what the attraction was?

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charlie, dennis, can see y,all know about lakes and rivers heck all we got is some lakes mostly creeks and tanks good bull frog. hunting. learning a little more all the time with y,all coments. ken

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Dennis the Gulf down here is tricky if you don't know it, It will be slick as glass in the AM. we usually get get winds from the south and the waves catch up late in the afternoon. low transom boats can get swamped from behind if they don't know how to read the water and if that happens put their bow into it. tourist use to small of boats and go to far out thinking it is docile and go to the barrier Islands....Charlie

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Dennis our "Gator Grass" build up from silt running down our rivers going it a bay, Gators nest there and it has wandering streams through them. good fishing because Gators eat turtles. fish are to fast for them. It's to small for the expense of Air Boats, they can't fit in in the bayous because of the cypress trees...Charlie.

Name: Spencer Jones
Email_Address: spjones92550@aol.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1969-72
Division_Squadron_Detachment: OI div
Date: 15 Aug 2010
Time: 11:48

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Greg I just looked you up in my cruise book. Your name was familiar. I came aboard early in 69 and was assigned to OI div. after mess cooking for a while. Not too many of us are this site. I don't know why its such a nice site.

Name: Spencer Jones
Email_Address: spjones92550@aol.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1969-72
Division_Squadron_Detachment: OI div
Date: 15 Aug 2010
Time: 11:48

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Charlie, I forgot to mention, Lakes up here in Michigan, although we have thousands of them most run 10 to 15 feet deep with a lot of it at a 4 to 5 foot depth, so when the weeds grow they are just below the surface. That is a lot of the smaller inland lakes, the great lakes are a different story but I just have a 15 foot bass boat with a low sideboard so it has to be pretty calm on the big ones for me to get out there and even then you keep a close watch on the weather. Dennis

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Charlie, Fishing was pretty good caught some nice bass and pike then with the heat up here the lakes have gotten pretty weedy and too many fishing tourneys have over-fished a lot of the lakes so it has slowed down a lot. As always a bad day fishing is still better than a good day at work so I still have fun trying. It has been like living down South up here with 93% humidity and temps in the high 80's and low 90's so I have been doing a lot of hiding out indoors with the AC. Dennis

Name: Greg Braunig
Email_Address: seaplane01@gmail.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1966-1970
Division_Squadron_Detachment: OI DIV
Date: 15 Aug 2010
Time: 09:08

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I just renewed my membership. Any one from CIC OI division still out there 1968-1969 vietnam cruises?

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Dennis, hows the fishing been going. Ken, I liked SW Texas. the population explosion sure changed it over the yrs. it used to be just little towns about every 30 miles with not much there. I was in 2nd Armor Division 1st Bat at Ft Hood. I read where they had a 1st Battalion chopper suport group attached to them. I think I've about got it figured out how my orders got messed up and I ended up in CC to a chopper unit. I ask my 1st Sgt about it and he said he never heard of tanks in CC?....Charlie

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Dennis for some reason didn't get your e-mail.....Charlie

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Charlie, I did enjoy that video of Toni, she looks like a teen, what a sweet looking gal. Also read your email as I sent a question to you and am waiting for an answer. Dennis

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aunt pass away in hondo tex. see was a southtexas woman. at 93 was ready to go. ken.

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Dennis, It took forever to get to Ind. Dad pulled into a ice house and ask the guy how much he'd charege to cool a mellon, 25 cents, Dad backed up to the dock and pulled the quilt off and the guy said he didin't know he was cooling a truck load. Dad said every thing bigger in Texas. I had to laugh. I think the guy showed it off to everyone in Kokomo. we went to the kins, her husband was in the basement washing walnuts in a washing machine. I thought it was crazy. we have pecans in Tx...Charlie

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Dennis, The Clinton's are something I don't want to get started on. Hope Ark is a great little place. as a teen Dad and I picked up a 105 lb watermelon there. he had a old red Willis jeep truck then. we headed for Kokomo Ind to visit kin. That is one heck of a trip in one of those. Clinton may have been a little kid there then? I was about 13? Dad thew a quilt over the mellon...Charlie

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Wayne, I agree with you but views once we don't need to beat them to death. I think everyone knows where a lot of us stand. most agree we are in a tail spin and something needs to be done. come Nov flush the toilet. I got a DVD I ordered called "a question of eligibility" I recommend it. A Supreme Court Justus said of all the Dept's of Gov there is not one to verify eligibility of people in office.I had to do that to get drivers license as a kid....Charlie

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Rick... I don't always agree with the views of other shipmates on this forum, but I certainly wouldn't impose on them that they stop voicing their opinion. A spirited debate is a healthy thing and trying to keep an open mind will win you more points then trying to stifle something that you might not agree with. The trick is to come to an agreement that bennefits you both.

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Dennis, My boss would let me take the swaves back there to get out of the plant for a while. 02N2 was a small space with long hrs, we needed to get out to prevent cabin fever. did you get Toni's sample TV broadcast I sent you....Charlie

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Charlie, At least you tried to keep them clean. Clinton with all his money wouldn't even pay a cleaning bill for a dress and look at what trouble it cost him..................It seems that we spent as much time getting our laundry done as we did on liberty. I loved our work uniform on the flight deck, T-shirt and jeans, just drag them behind the ship for about 15 min and you were set to go again as long as someone didn't dump garbage back there. Dennis

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Mack, I still think your the guy that blew tubes just as we untied and Shift Colors in Alameda at dock and ruined or whites at quarters on the flight deck. I almost puked with the smell, somebody must have had them boilers running to rich. I never could get along with whites. It cost me more than my clothing allowance to keep me in them. I don't ever remember wearing undress blues.....Charlie

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Greetings, my Son graduated from Hospital Corp School, Great Lakes Naval Training Center, 8-10-10. After 14 Days leave, he has orders to Camp LeJeune, Marine Base, in N.C. After F M T, He will be embedded with the 2nd Marine Divison, as a Combat Corpman. By the way, no one speaks for me anywhere,I speak for myself. I come from a large family and I never liked for any of them to correct me. I'm glad you Brethren are AMERICANS. I read somewhere in U S History, Ben Franklin, was asked, what kind of Government do we have Mr Franklin? His answer, a Republic, if you can keep It. Cheers, MACK

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I just read were inter-pol was just signed to to enter personal files our own Law Enforce met can't inter by our Commander in Chief that by passes Congress. Our Officers in the Military are Commissioned by Congress. I became a Petty Officer from a signature from one of them that entrusted me with Authority they would back up in me giving a lawful order to people under me. I ask a Officer one time to give me an order once in writing when I thougt it was puting my men in harms way. he backed off.

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rick, the USA. MEANS the united states of amercia. how do you know that i am hurting the log.what i say is what i belive. have you got input that is yours are others that have told you this. good. ken

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rick, if you are 180 off from what i think. then their is no sence to keep going on guess we will find out in a short time. if the USA , will still be the USA. ken

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Rick, I agree with you to a certain extent. If we talk about the Constitution and Bill of Rights it should be inbounds, That is what the Military is there for if not to defend it, both parties should defend it. I'm sure you swore to uphold it and rasied your right hand and the last words out of your mouth were so help me God. A lot of us are worried what's happening with open borders......Charlie

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XO, Toni staid quite a while this afternoon, She was concerned about you when I tolded her you fighting Pneumonia but I thought it was getting better. She always has so many irons in the fire I don't know how she keeps up with them. She doesn't look a day older than when she left for CC. I have a copy of the National Graphic Explorer DVD she was part of that coved disasters. It showed the Space Shuttle that blew up and scattered all over TX. She said she was in the 4th grade then...Charlie

Name: Rick Acree
Email_Address: rickacree@cox.net
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1964-1967
Division_Squadron_Detachment: OI Div
Date: 12 Aug 2010
Time: 12:46

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Incomplete email address-sorry

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Name: Rick Acree
Email_Address: rickacree
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1964-1967
Division_Squadron_Detachment: OI Div.
Date: 12 Aug 2010
Time: 12:43

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I am an American. I love America as much as you do. I am as Patriotic an American as you. I am proud of my service to America. My politics are, however, 180 degrees from yours Ken. I do not feel it is neccessary to state my political views in this forum. This site is intended and designed to recount our experiences aboard Hancock and to reunite shipmates. I truly do enjoy reading the sea stories. You have been asked several times to refrain from politics but are apparently unable to control yourself. If you wish to discuss politics with me, or anything else, email me direct and I will be happy to oblige. You are driving people away from the Quarterdeck Log and that is a real shame.

Name: Rick Acree
Email_Address: rickacree
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1964-1967
Division_Squadron_Detachment: OI Div.
Date: 12 Aug 2010
Time: 12:42

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Name: Rick Acree
Email_Address: rickacree
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1964-1967
Division_Squadron_Detachment: OI Div.
Date: 12 Aug 2010
Time: 12:42

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Ken, The last election I didn't vote, I didn't think there was anyone worth voting for, I just wondered if that was the best America had to offer. I think a lot of people were that way. big money is what buys people into office. We spend to much on wars and not enough on National defense. Honest Governors and State Attorney Generals, elected Judges can clean up a State. Put the Draft back in and Politician's won't be in such a hurry to send their sons off to war. It sure would get rid of unemployment checks...Charlie

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XO, Sorry to hear you will not be at the Hook this year. Next year for sure! We will raise a glass to you on Bug night! Hope your health improves soon! Pete

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i do not know why the american people voted him in. but the change he was talking is taken down the usa. internally. and he is + his people that or on his billfold side are not americas eather. hope we can survie to nov 2. maybe then , but a lot of damage has been done. GEORGE BUSH. WAS AMERICAN. ken

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Thanks for the update XO, Those Peal Harbor survivors are getting far and in-between. I've seen a couple old timers in VA's I met a USS Indianapolis survivor in the Bonham TX VA, I got to talk to him some before the Nurse called him to see he Dr I was very interested in him because my Dads Friend in Paris TX was a MP that guarded the bomb being loaded on the Enola Gay and his crew delived it....Charlie.

Name: Tom Wimberly
Email_Address: twimbo@aol.com
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1970-72
Division_Squadron_Detachment: Exec of ship
Date: 11 Aug 2010
Time: 07:52

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Pete, Charley: After another chest X-Ray yesterday, and a consultation with the doctor, I am canceling my trip to Tailhook this year. It would have been a great one. We were going to stop two nights on the way out at the old El Tovar Lodge right on the South Rim of the Grand Canyon. Also I was planning to go visit Pat Frey at Carson City, with whom I served aboard Intrepid 1961-62. Pat was in John Finn's division at Kaneohe on Dec. 7, 1941, and was right there on the ramp with John during the hot action. I'll start making cancelation calls this afternoon.

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Pete, have you heard from the XO? geting anything out of him's like pulling hens teeth. Toni just called, She's still in Vicksburg at her Grandmothers. She's been setting off flea bombs. I guess the dog she gave her a couple yrs ago got fleas started, she's coming by tomarrow afternoon. She said she's going to make it just in time for the tropical storm, It won't be nothing, it's breaking up and moveing faster across the Gulf. just needed rain and cool things off....Charlie

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Dennis, I made 2nd shortly after Bruce's accident and took over the #1 plant. the #2 plant could produce more but for some reason was the one that went down several times. it was always stuff that took time to repair. the 3K psi 6 stage compressor ate a valve once and we had to change a piston and a big silica gel dryer kept blowing gaskets. It was inside the plant and we had to dig through insulation to get to it. they replaced it in Bremerton I think. I sure loved it there. I got a lot of sea time in on the ferry's to Seattle.The people liked Sailors. those sand crabs had Hanna all tore apart. and we got 72 hr pass's back to back to get us out from under feet. We had one that went with us for sea trials as some as he heard shift colors. I think it was a mental thing. he didn't puke but felt woozy. Hanna was like a brand new penny. the power chipping hammers would drive you nuts. I camped out with a telephone operate in Renton. I had her 55 Chevy. a 6 cyl auto....Charlie

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Dennis, I had to pull refer watch smetimes when they were short handed. they had Bruce wraped in plastic in one. I went in to get me a carton of milk. We had two 02 sponsons, the one Bruce landed on was the #1 for the #1 Plant. I was working in the #2 plant. The 02 tanks were like big round thermous bottles that had a vacum pump that kept 21" of mercury vacum between the inter and outer shell. they were reserve storage for long air ops or if a plant went down. the tanks we used were like them in each plant. we used the #2 reserve once when we detected R22 in the plant tank and had to replace the head gasket on the compressor.we dumpd the tank and and we slowly got every thing back normal....Charlie

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About the resulting fire when Bruce went over. We had just topped off the "Huffers" and he had 30 gallons of 145 AvGas and 30 gallons of JP4 on it. When it lit off the fire was so intense that it melted the wipers on both the bridge and pilot house. The crew on the hanger deck right above your shop had the fuel flushed over the side and the fire out in about 3 minutes and before they could get the foam generators going. Must have had a damn good senior PO in charge. We learned later the O2N2 plant was just below where he hit. I'm real glad it didn't get there as it would have been a real disaster, plus I would not have you to pick on anymore. Dennis

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Charlie, When Bruce Wisnewski went over the side it was the 12th. of May 1962, I remember the date as we had been in Hong Kong on the 2nd of April and were sceduled to go back near the end of May or June. Bruce had mentioned he had gotten some instrument grade Mercury that the aviation store room was going to toss over the side and he had it sold on the black market in Hong Kong at $ 35.00 and ounce, He had 4 one pint bottles. When the MA came to clean out his locker they found that stuff. Of coarse we didn't know anything about it. The only time I rember backing down at sea was when the pilot got a cold shot off the cats and went in right in front of us. They didn't back down when Bruces tractor went over , just turned so the flight deck blocked the wind.

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charlie, i think the screws were 18 ft. across.solid brass. that is something else. they would dive her no doubt. ken

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XO, hows things with you? are you feeling better?...Charlie

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Ken, she was a big gal and hard to stop once cruising. once leaving Alameda we liked to turned a tug over with a sponson. they would line us up for a straight shot at the Gate. I think lack of communications because the tug didn't back off when you guys put her in gear. I never resized how big her screws were until we were in dry dock in Hunters Point. that was the 1st time my wife saw her and was overwhelmed by her size. I don't know what they were doing. we pulled there for a lot of modification's to update things.I think we were staying at my cousins in Redwood city. I sent her home PG to Moms in Fresno where she staid while we were deployed, I got a telegram communications sent me wife and baby boy doing fine. That's my Master Chief son. she was PG with my 2nd when I left to go through all that Army training. They cost me $25 a piece in civilian hospitals.....Charlie

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charlie, i was on throtte 2 times when we got the command emer. full astern. once i think a cat quit and the pilot went over the front. the other don,t know. she did do some virbrating. the 600 psi super heated steam lines where really dacing. ken

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Dennis, I think we pulled into the yard in Yokuska twice during my yrs. I think once then and another when we lost a boiler. Them guys sure boiled a lot of water,every time we refueled a tin cans we topped them off with water. once they kept the gates locked because of people protesting the bomb. I think the law ran them off and they opened the gate.I think that was the time of the boiler. I don't remember where the big EM club was but it's the biggest and best I've ever been in...,Charlie

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Dennis, that's the yr I'm thinking of. We were a Oilers nightmare. I don't how they got under the Gate much less our birth it was so foggy. Was that the yr your friends tug ended up burning on the #1 02 sponson burning. we had 600 gals of LOX in it. Do you remember why we reversed screws once? I was below decks....Charlie

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Charlie & Calvin, During my time up on the flight deck we did run against a tanker and the sponson for # 3 elevator just about took the open bridge off of it, they got a good dose of oil all over when we broke away but we never lost any aircraft in that incident. We did get some yard time , I believe in Japan on it though. We almost T-Boned the same tanker coming into SF in the fog, we turned Port and he turned Stbd. and we missed by about 150 feet (way too close)I believe the one you mention happened after I left in October of 62. Charlie you are right on the mark, we need to take out the trash on both sides of the house and starting at the lowest level of the system because they grow up to be the jerks that we have now and work our way up. I think the honeymoon is over and they started farting under the sheets. Dennis

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Ken, the way I look at it is look at the voteing record of the Reps and Governer of your own State. Each State need to clean it's own back yard up 1st, DC's running scared on both sides of the isle. The good ole boy network need to be broken. I think your going to see every dirty trick in the book pulled. and money is going to hit the media and feed us BS. I don't think SS is broke. money taken out is Coverd by T-bonds. but if the Fed don't have money to cover them what? look at your nest egg. is it worth anything close to what it was when you put it in. we have to get ahold of the purse strings and say no more and build the value of a $ back up. spending is just more than our economy can take. I could care less what side of the fence people like....Charlie

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Calvin, I think they were 2 incidents similar? Dennis and Jim were topside. during my yrs when we almost ran over a tanker, and another when we had a break away and fuel oil went ever where, I've read here someone posted about the #3 elevator was down with a A/C on it and it damaged a tanker. I don't remember what yr. we had several close calls that yr. Hanna reversed screws and I thought she was going to shake apart. I was below decks. wondering if the rivets in hull were going to pop....Charlie

Name: Mike Brown
Email_Address: mikealanbrown@gmail.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 68/69
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V1 Crash Locker
Date: 09 Aug 2010
Time: 18:01

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Calvin i see no division you were in. I was there and on the flight deck during unrep when the two fuel hoses broke, but dont remember you pushing anyone out of thge way....sorry saw the bombs dropping in the ocean..... Bad year

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958- 1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 09 Aug 2010
Time: 15:45

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mike, how do we know what person to vote for they so enbeded in system. i will get the deal from the voting place. think they all have got to go. i will try to figure it out. ken

Name: jkenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 09 Aug 2010
Time: 14:25

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charlie, mike, ya'll are hitting the head of the nail everytime. charlie went to conner ice house on my street. in this neck of the woods we called them that not convinece stores. anyway they had mad dog 20/20 for 3.79 a bottle. i think it was about 1.29 back yonder. ken

Name: Calvin Skipper
Email_Address: cwskip520@yahoo.com
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1968 - 1971
Division_Squadron_Detachment: 7th Fleet
Date: 09 Aug 2010
Time: 12:42

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I am looking for any sailors that was serving during 1968 thru 1970 during refueling when we collided with the tanker losing an airplane on top of the tanker. I am needing those that remember me being on refueling detail when this happened and can recall me pulling a sailor away from being swept overboard and being thrown against the bulkhead when the lines broke. If so please send an email to my email address. I need your help! Thank you. Skipper

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Ive been around a while like most alumni, and i always saw the check and balance of our system. Not now.They dont care how it looks to spend trillions of our money on their buddies. They dont think we are smart enough to throw them out. I BET THEY ARE WRONG. On vote night im going to sit down with a six pack and watch it like a movie. Im going to enjoy this better than pulling i nto a liberty port.....

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Federalism of our States began before the Civil War, after it there was no stopping. I do not know of one person in power that would give up any of theirs. To me downsize Federal Gov and get rid of so many with it would be the 1st step. you can only put so much hot air in a ballon until it pops. I pray there will be a turn around in Nov. we have so much deadwood sitting on the porch waiting for their free check....Charlie

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Mike in the Military we lived under the UCMJ. Civilians might not like it but I don't know of anyone getting a raw deal. I'm sure brig time was tough but I don't even know what the one on the Hanna looked like. there was always a layer of protection with our Chief and Officers before things got out of hand. In Army boot camps during the draft they had goon platoons. they would recycle them in boot camp for about 6 mos before giving them a dishonorable discharge just to aggravate them and send them home to Dad...Charlie

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I see where the top kill cement has hardened on this oil well. that's great. The Saint's are having a Super bowl celebration at the White House? their going to get their butt kicked anyway this yr. flaunt it while you've got it. I'm sure it must be a fund raiser. I don't think it's a good idea to open Gulf waters back open to commercial fishing as they have done. No one realy knows the impact yet. I would think it needs a break to reproduce young. I think a couple little huricanes would do us some good that might stir up the bottom a little...Charlie

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Old Salt, I've been rethinking about what I suggested about on line Hannah news, When I get into the Naval Home I think I will leave mine in the common area where old farts do a lot of reading, there used to be a lot of Sailors that remembered the Hanna and operated with her. A couple of submarine Sailors called her a target. I've only seen one periscope at sea off #3 elevator, it was pretty close to us. we may have been pulling into Pearl....Charlie

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Mike, I'm worried about States that don't require voter's Id's. why do you think our border is closed and passing all these gay marriage things. Our Secretary of the Navy is out politicking, I would think he would have a Navy to run instead of being someones errand boy. I would like to give him a tail hook party with my boot. no offense Pete:)....Charlie

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I agree charlie....My great great granddad was killed at the battle of kennasaw ridge in the civil war and my grandfather was wounded in ww1, and my dad was in ww2 and recieved beau coup medals. Some of us dont like whats going on now and its not funny to us. This HAS to end in november

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Dallas is kicking the Bengals butt tonight in preseason. I hope someone kicks the Saint's butt bad this season...Charlie

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Mike, History was my favorite subject. I was eat up with it studying Texas history because I had kin that fought for it's Independence and the Civil War. To me theres a star on our flag for every State. DC has none. Texas was the Lone Star State and still flys it. Their trying to re-wright history to suit political correctness. History happened. I feel that is wrong. put the cards on the table and learn by it. Why is our Navy shrinking when we need them most. they put the fear of God in our aggressors. I had to take a course in political science in college. It was a Joke.....Charlie

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Ken, to me Thomas Jefferson was one of the smartest Americans there ever was. It was like he had a crystal ball. His writings projected loop-holes in the Constitution and how the centralized Gov could override States rights. Our Gov was set up so each States Governor was the the big dog. If the people didn't like him they just booted his butt out. We were a Union that sent Representatives to DC to join the States together to fend off foreign invaders not to invade States business or militarily, They haven't learned one thing from Vietnam. They send our finest into harms way to fight in other countrys that in the end when we pull out will return to the way they were...Charlie Coulnt have said it better charlie. You should run for pres in 12 ,.....you know a LOT more than this guy in there now!

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Pete, I can't speak for the XO but I would bet he's there, Dr's don't like to give antibiotics more than 10 days.I just got Jenny to get a refill on her's that the prescription that were out of date and I had a bad tooth acke. a dentist would want a lot of money, she told the nurse what she wanted it for and the Dr wrote a new preciption and she got it and brought it to me. It cost $4 and the pain was gone where I could sleep. I beat some high $ dentist out of bucks. I haven't had a bit of problem with it since....Charlie

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Rob, that email of the F-106 you sent me was the one I saw in Nam flying low level heading North. I don't think they had to good of record they crashes a lot. I heard later that they had ground reading radar that was the front runner of the Cruise Missile. It had a scream to it to it when the Pilots put the petal to the metal. It was used for naplam a lot at low speeds. I think the Phantoms were used more in N Nam....Charlie

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Pete, Thunder bird was like a jug of kerosene, I've only seen the white, kids would put Grape Kool-Aid and sugar in it. us kids pooled in and rented a big cheap motel room once and they brought all kinds of stuff. my date started drinking that Slow Gin and got sick and thew up. It looked like blood. she had it on her dress later I droped her off in front of her house and ran like hell.A guy had to worry about their Fathers killing them...Charlie

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chaelie, you said a mouth full their. a old yeller dog could point his pawl at a deal on want shoud happen. and be right more then them. he gets a bisket they get the hole 9 yards. ken.

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Ken, I'm in love with Sarah Palin, She's a feisty little gal, I'd give up watching the next Super Bowl to watch her in a Cat-Fight with Hillary....Charlie

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Charlie, forgot Thunder Bird wine (red/white). More awful stuff. One of my Mids mixed them once before there was rose' :) Did not touch the stuff. David, anyone with a mascot that is a "duck" should be fearful of a "husky!" Just kidding. Think my team is still "building (forever)." Hey, when I was at the U Dub ('64-'68), we sucked, but us students had fun at the home games. XO, hope you are on the mend. Looking foward to seeing you at Tailhook. Attack Ready Room is the place to hang out. Pete

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charlie, you are right. we have had it good but if its going to happen them idoits are still trying to get more. and it's not about america. if God want's it. it will happen. they will still be trying to get more. got to go yo bed before i blow a fuse. take it easy. ken

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Ken, the Mayan perpetual calender stops in 2012. no one has been able to figure out why they don't even know what happened to them. I would just guess disease? They were many yrs ahead of the rest of the world in their time. The Aztec's were a little further north in S Mexico at a later date. I really enjoyed my stay in Central America, it has things not seen in the rest of the world.....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcgobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 08 Aug 2010
Time: 14:36

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charlie, the people in the know. 2012 the world is going to stop and go the other way. heck that is going on now. i do not know about that stuff. but i am not blind. and the people that or supose to be americans. are doing it to the americans better get out of here before it gets political.ken.

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the people that view this web. please do not forget nov. 2 most of us in our last quarter but our grandkids and their kids. don't know if nov. 2 will get it right. the way it has been going is not going to fix america. ken.

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XO, the VA gave me a pneumonia vaccination, the nurse said modern strains are some tough dudes.......Charlie

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ANOTHER LIFE MEMBER CHECKS IN: Joe S. Garcia Jr., V-1, 61-64

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I had never heard of a wine referred to as Mad Dog or MD. There was (is?) an inexpensive wine known as Mogen David. - break - Must report that I am not doing well. Have been diagnosed with pneumonia - the kind they treat on an outpatient basis. Have bad chest and head cold symptoms. Guess it would be worse if I wasn't on antibiotics. Doctor says stay at home and rest, you don't get well quickly from it.

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Mike I meant Southern Ms is where Toni went. ole Miss is in Northern Ms......Charlie

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Mike USM suppose to play Navy I think on Oct 8, It will be the 1st time they ever played. That's the College Toni went to. The Superintendent of Ole Miss banned spectators from using the battle flag and got rid of the Coronal. The band can't play "the souths going to rise again" because some players griped it was a racial thing. We had to have a State vote to keep our flag yrs ago because the NAACP didn't like the stars and bars on it. these things are heritages down here...Charlie

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For DAVID BYRUM: Re UO, amazing the Ducks are able to assemble a football team this year, thought they were all in jail/prison. Must have a good work release policy in Oregon. Let's see, Masoli took his rap sheet to grad school at Ole Miss and AD Belotti took his $3 million to ESPN. Phil Knight must be really squirming!

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I don' know what the big deal is over Edsel. they were one of the most ugly cars made. People pay millions for pictures I think are ugly? My family were always Ford people. I broke the rules buying a hoped up 55 Chev. actually my Dad bought it for me. It was 2dr V8 stick. we went to a country road and from a dead stop I put some pucker power on him. It was hoped up throw, It would eat tires up with the positraction leaving long streaks on the pavement. he kept trying to tune it up, It had a 3/4 cam in it and he thought it was missing.I didn't learn about the cam until later when someone told me at the bowling ally. I was only 15..Charlie

Name: David Byrum
Email_Address: dtbyrum@gmail.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1961-1964
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V-4 Div
Date: 07 Aug 2010
Time: 20:34

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Wasn't MD "Morgan David"? Am I gabby tonight or what?

Name: David Byrum
Email_Address: dtbyrum@gmail.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1961-1964
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V-4 Div
Date: 07 Aug 2010
Time: 20:31

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Ah liberty cards, as division yeoman I saw all the special request chits, the ever popular "I want to beat the crowd to my girlfriends house" or the guy who "only has one nut and he is trying to get his wife pregnant.

Name: David Byrum
Email_Address: dtbyrum@gmail.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1961-1964
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V-4 Div
Date: 07 Aug 2010
Time: 20:24

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Pete, want to make a little bet on the UO-UW football game? Maybe the loser having to wear the other teams colors all during the reunion in Chicago?

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That must have been a heck of a night Pete, You learned responsibility of your crew at a good time. I always disliked a drunk person when I was sober and a sober person whin I was drunk. I'm a beer drinker and like to keep a little control over my 3 brain cells. Toni suppose to be here this week, I'd give her some MD 20/20 but I don't want to see her picture on the front of the paper. She said get her white Chardonnay or how ever you spell it...Charlie

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Roger Ball Charlie. MD 20/20 and Lucky Larger long necks were the beverages of choice at the parties I hosted at the NROTC frat house at the University of Washington in '68 That was the cheapest crap we could find! I was the "den mother" for the guys...like a drill sargent (senior Midshipman).Pete

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Pete they still have it. I only drank it once, Didn't know if I was scratching my watch or winding my butt. It was like grape cool-aid and you don't suppose to drink it like beer. It got that name for some reason. I don't have to wonder why. Some people get mean I got immobile...Charlie

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Helmut, an Edsel...come on who would want one of those...not many in our time...guess a lot now! Just kidding, I liked the car, but never had one. Cool up in NH at the lake tonight. Charlie, had not heard about Mad Dog 20/20 since college in the late '60s. Does it still exist? Really awful stuff! Pete

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Ken, you will get pictures tomorrow. As far as the 1960 Edsel covertible, I would say $200,000. After all, only 76 were built before Edsel production was shut down in November 1959. I'll bet Jay Leno has already tried to buy it. The car was from Rhode Island.

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hech, charlie after wine and dine--promoted myself to warrent officer. busted my chief to 3rd class. ha. had no paper work. it did not fly. helmut, must have been a good edsel convention, what do you think that 1960 red convertible would bring? the ownwer. bet he is proud of it. ken.

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I was looking for a copy of a liberty card on the net. dose anyone know Matt Johnson that workerd in the Missle Shop. He has a story about his 1st liberty as an E-2 trying to get passed the JOOD's inspection to get off the Hanna, It's very good. I can relate. It dosen't say yrs but he ended up CWO3. ther people talked about colors of liberty cards effecting mileage marrage and that stuff. as I remember mine was blue and had to use a special request chit to go beyond 5O miles. I turned E-5 about the time I got married and E-5's didn't have to have a liberty card. I had to put a special requet chit in to get married? I down loaded a copy of a special request chit but it's a later form, it has privacy statement on top. I'm going to print a bunch up to jack with them at the Naval Home:)....Charlie

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The Edsel Convention was part of Salem's Heritage Days celebration. I was driven to Salem Common where all the Edsels were on display along a shaded path. Every single one was a beauty. The 1959 models outnumbered the 1958s and 1960s. I met the original owner of a 1960 red convertible. These are super rare since only 76 were made. There was one Frankenstein. Someone had put an Edsel nose and side sheet metal on a 1958 Ford Skyliner retractable hard-top. There were over 50 Edsels from different states. The one that came the farthest was from Alberta,Canada. It was a great show and I do not think that I will ever see this many Edsels in one place.

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Ken, don't buy her a jug off Mad Dog 20/20 and take her to burger king. after the 20/20 she'l promote herself to Admiral and want a pay raise and a Captains Gig :)...Charlie

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all of the guys that served ..aboard the Hanna. have a good night. going too take chief out for wine and dine. ken.

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WELCOME ABOARD TO TWO NEW MEMBERS: Jerry Wideman, MarDet, 69-71, Barnhart, MO Terry L. Wolf, VA-55(LCDR), 72-73

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LIFE MEMBER NO. 400 NOW ON BOARD. Another 6 Life Members, who will no longer have to pay dues: #400 Charles Teale, Gunnery; #401 Hampton Collier, X (COs Office), 44-45; #402, Gene Monroe, G(LT) 65-67; #403 Paul Torounet, B(BT3), 58-62; #404 Larry Violette, VF-211, 63-65; #405 Tim Woodham, VF-6 (AMM3c), 45.

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Old Salt, I'm sure it's a full time job keeping up with things. I've learned a lot here getting different points of Shipmates views at their jobs and their stories. through different post on the yrs the crews were aboard I can picture how the Hanna changed from my time aboard. of the 7th fleet our task group was about the biggest dog on the block in my time. I never gave it much thought because we wasn't at war. I'm sure those that serverd during Nam had a lot harder yrs because of extended air op's. when we had 72 hrs of them it put extra pressure on all of us not just the flight deck. 02N2 had 8 hr watches any time at sea. but we had a easy job compaired to some...Charlie

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Charlie, in answer to your question on where is "the computer", wherever the Board Members live. We don't have a centralized computer as such. Each Board Member maintains and operates their own computer. Each of us pays for our own ISP. So, it is really a "labor of love". We do get reimbursed for actual expenses incurred for the benefit of the Association.

As for sending out the newsletter on line, we do for those that live overseas. We have kicked this around for awhile, but I, as Membership, have been reluctant to take on another mailing list. Just keeping up with the day to day changes is already almost a full time job.

Gota run, have to enter 6 new Life Members, update l3 renewals, enter 1 death, and enter 2 new members to keep the data base of over 4000 names up to date. No rest for the weary. Smooth sailing shipmates.

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Ken, I don't know what the used in DC, they used the Dodge 360 industrial engine in several things. The 113 armored personnel carrier had one. the 114 had a big Chevy. They are fun to drive. most track vehicles had removable rubber pads on the tracks to keep from tareing up he streets. In combat areas the were removed to get traction. the dodge 3/4 was tough but only had a Flathead 6 in. Military tactical vehicles were judged by the amount of weight the could carry across country, they are bigger and more powerful than civilians. on streets 10 tons wouldn't make a 5 ton grown. Line outfits got multi fuel engines, It was diesel but you could ut gas in i, if we did that we would add oil to it to lower he octane. I think they were built by Detroit Diesel.

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charlie, now i remember. what was the dodge the troopers used.remember it was fast. got to go to va. at 9:00 am for lob.work. it only takes about 15 minutes. the travel is the worst. ken

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Ken, they were Studebaker's, In about 57-58 Chrysler Corp. started coming out with Muscle cars. they were bad dudes with cheap bodies, I learned not to mess with those Chevys SS with the crossed flags. they'l leave you like your nailed to the pavemet. I had a Mustang and all I saw was tail lights.......Charlie

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Old Salt. it's $20 well spent. we can't stay afloat for free. I was wondering if you could set the Hannah news up so we could get it on line for those that chose to save printing and mailing. the one you sent me was great with color pictures and all. Just food for thougth, I have no idea of the size or capacity of our computer but I know it cost to maintain it and where ever it's at. where is it anyway?.....Charlie

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charlie,got to know. was the silver hawk was it a pontiac or dodge. ken

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2010 MEMBERSHIPS ARE NOW EXPIRED! If your newsletter mailing address shows "Membership expires July 2010" above your name, you are now on your way out. If in doubt, send me an e-mail, and I will verify your expiration date. If you don't renew, the Sept issue of the newsletter will be your last. Come on guys, time to ship over for another 2 years. Only $20. Best deal of any of the ship's associations.

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charlie, this is good. getting ready to sss and go to bed. tomorrow ken

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Helemut, to me Studebaker's were well built and ahead of there times in style. Nash was tough as a combat boot but wasn't in tune with the big three. there were several cars that went under because of the unions, That bettle was one tough little dude. I had a 56 that had 32 hp. It never passed anything that wasn't parked. that dude was like a timex, took a licking and kept on ticking.....Charlie

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helmut, if you go to edsel show send me some pictures. i don't know how to do that. i do know that.dennis knows how. we are in the last quater and i do enjoyed reading the coments. talk to ya'll later. ken

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Ken, the Studebaker Starlight coupe (1953-55) was one of my favorite cars. People did joke about whether it was coming or going. Nothing really changes. In 1998 both my daughters bought identical VW Beetles and people wondered which was the front end and which was the back. My oldest daughter still has hers with over 300,000 miles.

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Ken, I remember in about 56 the Silver Hawk had some little hood scoops with a fuel injected engine, It had 160 mph on the speedometer. nothing could touch it. the one I saw was at a community dance where teens went. I wasn't but about 15. I think the Golden Hawk was more of luxury car. When I was skydiving yrs latter a member had an Aviate that had a blower on it made by Stud. the one I saw was kind of square and white. I don't know what yr it was but was told they didn't make very many....Charlie

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helmut, remember the edsel hech i was in high school. we guys used too say is it coming or going same as the studbaker. but the edsel did have a big oval shape center grill. we boys had something to say about that to. way back when. ken

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I remember the ST Edsel I saw, It was at a new car show in late 57, they were all called S that was when the dual headlights came out, the Edsel was very expensive and ugly. It had a big Marauder engine, it had push button auto-trans buttons in the middle of the steering wheel. I sat in it but have never road in one. I'm sure they had different models. It broke my heart to see Chevy change, my last yr aboard the Hanna. I bought a 58 Mec convertible with the Marauder engine and it had 2-4 bbls, It sure loved gas stations and the rear tires sure liked to be changed.....Charlie

Name: Robert Nordstrom
Email_Address: rnordstrom32@yahoo.com
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1957-1959
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V3 Div
Date: 05 Aug 2010
Time: 16:09

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Looking for shipmates who served on the ship with me.

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Tim, the early Saabs were polluters because you had to mix oil with the gas just like an outboard engine. A friend of mine was a Mass. State Trooper. One day he stopped a Saab that was speeding. When he looked at the registration he discovered that it was a three cylinder. He had the driver open the hood so that he could look over the engine. He was impressed and let the driver go with a verbal warning. By the way, according to the Salem News, one of the Edsels is coming from Idaho.

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do yall'll remember the studabacker that had a supercharge engine? think it was in mid 50's never seen one but i always would get motor trend manuel read about it . i think the chevy carveir came out with a supercharge 4 cly. in early 60's. when i got out of navy went and got me a 60 impala with a 348. my older bro. told me you got a champayne appetite with a beer sallary. mom had to finish last 800.00$ to get it done.ken

Name: Tim Mullen
Email_Address: timcathy_mul@hotmail.com
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 64-66
Division_Squadron_Detachment: AG V-2
Date: 05 Aug 2010
Time: 14:06

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Hemut, My wife's folks owned an Edsel when they first came out. At that time we lived in Northern Idaho. Lot of people had a lot to say about the vehicle. Same thing about the front wheel Saub.

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Edsels are descending on the Witch City. The Edsel Owners Club is having their annual convention in Salem,Mass. this weekend with a show on Salem Common. I'm going to hobble over and hope to see some 1960 Edsels, especially the rare convertibles. Way back when, I only saw one 1960 Edsel and it was a 4-door. When I was in high school a doctor had a 1958 Bermuda station wagon in salmon paint and wood trim. What a beauty it was. When I caddied at Kernwood Country Club I got rides home in a few Edsels and other fancy cars. I personally never thought of it as a dud.

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phil,dennis, can't say it any better then that. maybe some of them view this web. least they will know how we feel about them. ken

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Phil, I wonder how they keep the stink down in Washington DC, Not only from all the politicians but all the lawyers that are there. Must be some real good breezes carrying the stink out to sea. Of course the politicians are not there working very much so that probably keeps the stink down a lot. Dennis

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Charlie, That remind me of the stinch of the slaughter house at 3rd and Evans Streets in the Hunters point area of San Francisco in the 60's. They finally tore down all of that area in the late 60's. as for the gators, they probably won't eat most of them as a lot of them are politicians and they probably taste bad.

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Hi Ken, we have what they call "Porgy" boats here, theres a processing plant in Pascagula that takes fish oil from them to make vitamins and grinds the rest up for cat food. People are at fixed bayonets. It stinks so bad in east Biloxi you can't breath on beach dr. one tore it's trawls and tons of them drifted ashore around our biggest and best casinos. the company's got skimmers sucking them up. I guess they've made skimmers for everything anymore. It's been like 3 monkeys trying to play football down here. next yrs got to be better. we are flooded with out of state people contractors for BP has brought down. It's a wonder those Cajuns in S La haven't fead a bunch to the gators.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.ne
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 04 Aug 2010
Time: 14:47

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charlie, got to say hi. ken

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This wk is turning out good, the news from the Naval Home I get said I should get reporting orders the 1st wk in Sept and projected move-in 18 Oct- 5 Nov. I have been looking all over for my will, power of attorney an legal stuff as you know the Gov requires and struck gold, I found it. Re-enlisting is easier all you have to do is sign a stack of papers. I think they have about gotten that damn oil well under control....Charlie

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Ken, we do need new input bad, I'm trying to cut back on my motor mouth so someone will post. you can only talk until it gets boring to shipmates. There was a pretty good bunch here for a while."Old Salt" said he wanted us to use the fum, I tried it once and it was just one on one nothing group..... Charlie

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sorry scott. i was to quik i meant john ken

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958=1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m. div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 03 Aug 2010
Time: 14:43

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robert,mike,david,warren,scott. ya'll need to join us.charlie,dennis pete, ken. we do keep in touch with each other on this great webb. we need some new blood. welcome aboard. ken.

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Welcome aboard Warren, G Division has been giving some input lately, I don't know much about you guys. They had GM's and then Airdales with a few others thrown in. Some worked tuning up missles? My Divison was mostly MM's.....Charlie

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Ken, doing great, don't worry about me, Toni called and has 5 day's off from work and a week end on both sides.She will have a little longer to stay with me than usual. She had her 1 yr anniversary today at her TV station and is happy to not be last man in the chain of Command. I'm just going around in circles like the Hanna used to do waiting for the time to pull into port.... Charlie

Name: scott koblitz
Email_Address: johnmooks@yahoo.com
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1971- 1975
Division_Squadron_Detachment: radio man
Date: 02 Aug 2010
Time: 17:15

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im not scott koblitz, im his son in law..everyone who will read this im asking for your help to find my wifes father...he station in the philippines, in subic naval base..the only information we is his name and the ship, my wife was born march 23 1974...mary jane abdon dizon...pls. do help us, this is my e mail ( johnmooks@yahoo.com) or cp no. (+966540791516)...thanks and god bless everyone

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charlie, dennis, or any of my shipmates. just listen to TimGraw song. way back when. thats tells the story of what has happen. and that is not political ken. charlie, are you doing ok?

Name: Warren D. Wilder
Email_Address: WW2356@aol.com
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1973-1975
Division_Squadron_Detachment: G Div/Weapons Dept.
Date: 02 Aug 2010
Time: 12:00

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Just found site.Nice

Name: David Byrum
Email_Address: dtbyrum@gmail.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1961-1964
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V-4 Div
Date: 02 Aug 2010
Time: 10:29

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Robert & Mike glad to see you on the site, I thought there were only two crew members on the Hancock. LOL

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Ken, Win-Dixie is a grocery chain, I've only seen them in the South.....Charlie

Name: Mike Anderson
Email_Address: rambler34us@yahoo.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1972 - 1975
Division_Squadron_Detachment: 5th Div. Weapons Dept.
Date: 01 Aug 2010
Time: 18:18

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Looking for any of the gun crew. Or mag crew.

Name: Robert Nordstrom
Email_Address: rnordstrom32@yahoo.com
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1958-1959
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V3Div
Date: 01 Aug 2010
Time: 17:10

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Looking for old buddies on the hanna.

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charlie, it is not my son inlaw it's my brother inlaw.that does get very confusing. ken.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.n.t
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 01 Aug 2010
Time: 14:29

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charlie, got to know what is a win dixie we do not have any of them, that i have seen. we do have HEB. and surper s heb is the power house. witch is good my chief works for them. think she is getting ready to retired. time for me to go back to work. bet my son in law that lives in senora kentucky and his daughter is coming in on 6th of sept.. can't wait he is retired from army good man . ken.

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Ken, I give my new computer a little break, we still have some head butting to do. when you buy a new computer anymore so much is temp files running in the background that pop-up telling you have so many days to buy it, they are hell to weed out of your root directory, I'm not in to good of mood this AM and would be a good time to put it at parade rest.....Charlie

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charlie, where you able to make friends with your new computer? it is getting very hot in tex. heck we are use to it. later ken.

Name: Charlie Rid ens
Email_Address: Valhalla1@cableone.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1960-1964
Division_Squadron_Detachment: A Division
Date: 30 Jul 2010
Time: 23:05

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I bought a couple t-bones at Win-Dixie, I could have bought a new Cadillac cheaper than a cow? When I give CuJo a bone she won't turn it loose until it's gone, I may be sleeping with part of a bone tomorrow night. I think the only t-bones I got on the Hanna was when I mess cooked in the Chiefs mess. I could come in off liberty and throw one on the grille. A few Chiefs would would wake up to the smell and I would throw some more on. It was good duty actualy. The cook was 2nd class with hash marks from his elbo to his wrist, I had to go to the bake shop to pick up pies, I think they had pretty good duty also....Charlie

Name: Charlie Ridens
Email_Address: Valhalla1@Vableone.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1960-1964
Division_Squadron_Detachment: A Divison
Date: 30 Jul 2010
Time: 02:24

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Ken, I've gotten my new computer in and I'm trying to make friends with it. I had to download a bunch of upgrades. The built in speakers sound like crap. I still have a ways to go,....Charlie

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Ken, I've gotten my new computer in and I'm trying to make friends with it. I had to download a bunch of upgrades. The built in speakers sound like crap. I still have a ways to go,....Charlie

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charlie, hope you did not die on me. you are getting very close to cujo future. took coco to lake last weekend. she swam for 3 days she laid for 2 days but she did enjoyed it.cujo will be very well taking care of. i know when coco dies. it is not going to be a good month. ken

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charlie. about a year ago got into flight simulator hot and heavy. my kids just laughted said i was a crasy old man. it did help me on computor. have put it on back bunner for now. will see if i can find "the last detail" later ken.

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Ken, I got some DVD's in that I orderd, "The Last Detail" with Jack Nicolson is great. You'd like it.....Charlie

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Dennis, to me I have loaded my computer with to many programs that run in the background that I thought I would like to have and never used, I could add more memory, but one thing a lot of people overlook Is your processor works harder and gets hotter. they make high capacity fans that gamers put on them. I don't need a air craft carrier to fly a piper cub from. I used to have fun with those flying programs but always crashed landing. They had a book thick as a dictionary you suppose to read....Charlie

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Charlie, that sounds like it will be plenty big enough to do the job.I found a MP4 player on the internet that has 32GB RAM and you can add expansion cards. I have one mini SD card with 8GB on it and it has 6 movies on it, this thing plays movies, shows photos, Music and even has a radio tuner built in. It only cost me $ 34.00 and is smaller than most cell phones. The screen is 2 1/4 inches by 1 1/2 inches so you gotta watch close but is great when you are stuck in an airport or something to pass the time. It was made for much younger eyes than mine but it is viewable. Take care and enjoy your new toy when it gets there. Dennis

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Dennis, I bought a Sandisk USB 2.0 flash drive with 8GD for $18 at Walmarts. I transferd an empty folder to it just to see if I could, It flashed a litle red light and it was there. I'm like a kid waiting for xmas to get my new computer. It will take me a little to get it the way we can live together. It has 180 GB hard drive witch is more than I need....Charlie

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Charlie, a correction on my last post, they are called Flash Drives. Check the internet at a place called "Ben's Bargains.com" They have a 16GB stick for $ 25 to $ 28 dollars with shipping. It is just a site that lists sales and great bargains, no membership, no fees, and no junk email, just a place you can browse different bargains and some not so great but all in all it is a good place to check first. No used stuff like eBay and some bargains are at Staples or Best Buy, Walmart. They do the leg work for you and just post it they are not involved except for the information they pass on. Dennis

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Charlie, What you are referring to for saving files is called a Memory stick, it has a USB plug at one end. Look on eBay for one as they are way cheaper than buying it at a retail store. I have about 5 or 6 of them up to a 16GB but use a 2GB one most of the time. On your address book the best way is to print it out if you can in case you can't transfer it, you would have to re-type it in again but you will have a hard copy of it just in case. I just upgraded my computer a month ago and my wife's about two weeks ago. Mine is running Windows 7 and has a 500GB hard drive plus a second hard drive with 320GB, love it and it is fast with a 19 inch wide screen monitor. Dennis

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Dose anyone remember when a guy escaped from a Marine? we were at Sea, where did the idiot think he was going. they searched everywhere, even the 02 plant, I think they found him in a vent duct....Charlie

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Keb I think they schedule ports of call where 2 Carriers wouldn't be in at the same time thank God. That would be a mess. I have told a couple guys they needed to catch a taxi back to ship if they were to messed up for their own safety. they did but I'm not sure they went back to ship.In CC where the XO is they had some Sp's riding with Police Officers so they would be taken back to base instead of the slammer. I think about the time I went in the Cb's they had a new Master at Arms rate. we had a 1st Class Boat's and and Quarter Master. That was HQ company, I think they kept the Quarter deck running and made out watch bills. I don't know how the SP list worked on the Hanna, I just got a memo from Division. We may only had a platoon of Marines. I don't think they pulled MP duty......Charlie

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charlie, read your post, just give me a shout will send you a reply. enjoyed your comment on sp.duty. it was you not glory or power. later ken.

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I ordered me a computer that has everything in the monitor except the keyboard and mouse. It's a 18.5 screen with Win XP home. $399 free shipping and no tax because it shipped out of state. I think I'll get one of those sticks I can put the stuff I want to keep off this computer, It's always a mess jacking with the cable co geting my e-mail straight. It's only about 9 lbs, Toni will be here in the 2nd week of Aug, maybe she can fix my mess-ups, I will keep this one going until I get it right. I might need you guys that e-mail me to send me a note to pick you up in my address book. I'm trying to down size because my room at the Naval Home will be a lot smaller than where I am now....Charlie

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Jim that was a great link, My Father hit Normandy on the 2nd wave, he made it all the way to Belgium before getting hurt with a 88, the battle of the bulge. He signed up for the Rangers in boot camp to make more money. He liked the BAR but was a rifleman. when I was a boy he used to wake up sweating with war dreams real bad. he didn't tell me much for yrs, and one day he would talk about it when I was a young teen. he told me he staid sea sick on the troop transport all the way to England. he said those German buzz bombs made a loud pop before the came down and everyone took cover.....Charlie

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Ken, the worst thing in the world was to pull SP, nobody that I knew of put anyone on report. In Hawaii the Hasp were tough, in Okinawa they had a joint Military Patrol that was tough. I pulled it at the sub base in Pearl and took my shoulder band off and put it under the bar with me club and let them beat the crap out of each other. I sit back there with the waitress's. I went back to ship without any new scars....Charlie

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I went on liberty In Alameda, I was young for 2nd class and couldn't drink in street cloths, but in uniform I didn't get carded because the beer maids assumed I was old enough, It's crazy that guys working for you can get a cold beer but I couldn't. I fell in love and couldn't find my socks the next am and she gave me a pair of white ones and droped me off at the gate, bell bottoms and white socks don't mix with Marines, The Gate Guard put me on report. I told the Chief and he laughed and said forget it that he would tear it up. that was the only time I was ever put on report in my 20 yrs....Charlie

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dean, my spelling might not be right. ya'll the marines did a very good job on Hana. a crew of 3000 kept it going for the USA. that;s the way it is. the navy secuity was good too. ken

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Dennis I remember the 2 Cods with mushrooms on top. I was told they were what give the Hanna Pilots early warning. I never was topside to watch them launched but I think the put a lot of hrs in because at least one would be gone most of the time. The book you read, My son was a BT on a 'Tin Can" for several yrs when he 1st went in, typical BT always griping about his hot,dirty job, He really screamed when they change him to a MM and sent him to gas turbine school, when he went aboard his 1st FFG he loved it because when they put the metal to the peddle it would kick a rooster tail out and go. he said if it made a high speed turn he would be thrown to a bulkhead, I told him to order him some seat belts. He had so much sea time in when he went to the board for MC interview he knew everybody on it. they took him to the club to celebrate his promotion before the paperwork was done, of course he had to pay the beer tab....Charlie

Name: Dean Dunn
Email_Address: c0219@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 56,57,58
Division_Squadron_Detachment: MarDet, 7th Div.
Date: 27 Jul 2010
Time: 14:19

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The F8U is the plane John Glenn set the cross country speed record in. SWP: We had 5. A Navy jg comes up and wants to go in. The Marine PFC checks his list and his name is not ther, the jg, says he's going in anyway. The PFC pulls his .45 cranks one in the champer, puts it to his head and says, "no sir you are not". The officer put the Marine on report and they went before the Capt. His response, "your lucky you didn't get shot."

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Bill, I bet if you could look at them now they would have "Made in China" written on them somewhere ! Charlie, we did have two A3D's when we left on a cruse but they were not aboard all the time, I guess that was to free up space because they were so big the same with the two WF "Willie Fudds" (the ones with the radar dome on top of them) which were like our COD "Carrier on Deck" the twin engine Grumman used for mail and personnel transfer. Those aircraft were usually stationed at some airfield near where we were operating but still assigned to the Hanna. I just finished a very good book called "The Last Stand Of The Tin Can Sailors" Fantastic book about the last Naval gun battle and where the first aircraft carrier was sunk by gunfire instead of torpedoes or aircraft. It took place around the PI during McArthurs landings in the PI. A very recommended book for anyone interested in Navy history at it's finest. And it took place where we operated most of the time in the PI. Dennis

Name: Bill Pingel
Email_Address: wpingel@aol.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1970-1973
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V-1 Division
Date: 27 Jul 2010
Time: 06:51

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Hey Pete……..Your right about the Marines they were serious. On the hanger deck we couldn’t get within 10 feet of the birds. But then they’d come up stairs and it was a different story, my blue shirts would have to lay down right under the belly so we break down the chains. Lots of time to look them over and read everything on them. I’m sure we thought we could tell which ones were real and which we dummies by the writing on them but who knows. Take care….Bill

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Ken, I think in our days we may have had 2 at the most. I have no idea what they did with them when we went into the yards or home port? maybe a squadron flew them off as they did with their aircraft. I'm sure they had a special detail for them. I think it was out of site out of mind kind of deal. I never really thought about them but it was spooky seeing one, I think they were close to the same kiloton as Hiroshima...Charlie

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Dennis, I just looked up the A3D up. It was the largest strategic bomber carriers had in our days, as I read it they were modified to milk cows in later yrs. Pete knows more than he wants to tell :) I had an air dale take me to the missile shop once. I only got to the front part and they were tuning up a sidewinder. I couldn't go past the shop. they let me take a cigarette and run it in front of the headlight and watch the fins turn. I hoped the darn thing didn't take off and chase me around the room, I was on ammo loading parties before, the payload they used were in heavy coffee cans. I asked if they had can openers, they said they had plenty.....Charlie

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Bill as I remember it was it was about the size of fuel sponson aircraft carried for longer range. I was told the A4 could lift it but didn't know. I think in my days they would deni it rather than take a chance flying it around. I have no idea if they ever lauched one off the deck. that night I saw it you had better keep your distance or face a Marine with a 45....Charlie

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Charlie, during our time we did pull into Japan with the big ones aboard but never told. Part of the treaty with Japan at the end of WWII was we were never to bring any kind of Nukes in with us. I know we never off loaded them like in later years. We just never talked about it. Our 1960 cruse book has a 3 3/4 times 5 3/4 inch chunk missing out of page 168 because someone took a photo of one of the nukes and it actually got printed. They confiscated all books and "Edited" them all. The A3-D was the guy that would carry them if needed and yes we parked them just aft of the Island and behind "Tillie" When Jim and I would park them the rear wheel was about 4 inches from the gutter and we always felt that that big suckers would slip and drag us over with them. Their nick name was "The Wale" and I see why they were called that. Dennis

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I seen the big one we had during my days, It was on a single cart heavy as heck. They took it to #1 elevator. I thought they put it on a A3 because a BT member here told me that had stack watch that watched it for smoke. said the practiced loading it on a A3 but never lauched it. Japan was touchy. we had a boiler go down and had to pull in for emergency repairs. They were raising cain about nukes at the time....Charlie

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MORE LIFE MEMBERS; Another group that will not be paying dues henceforth: #394 Paul Coppenbarger, 5th, 44-45; #395 Kenneth Ebbers, VB-7, 44; #396 Lewis Riggles, 7th, 44-45; 397 Karl Stewart, M, 43-45; 398 Gene Rieland, B(BT3) 60-62; #399 Harold Washburn, GM, 64-66.

WHO WILL BE NUMBER 400????? COULD BE YOU

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WHO WILL BE NUMBER 400????? COULD BE YOU

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WHO WILL BE NUMBER 400????? COULD BE YOU

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Roger that Bill, I will neither confirm or deny we had the big one aboard (actually did not know, above my pay grade :). Practiced loading a lot tho. As a loading officer, did not want to loose even a practice guy over the side if the ship rolled. Paper Work!!! The Marines took there job seriously, you had to have the the proper ID to get close to the plane evern if you were the O'in Charge! Good for them! A-3's were the tankers on my '73 cruise. Us A-4 guys were it in '75.More.Pete

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charlie, when i was onboard i had to check brgs. temp. on output shafts from aft. eng. rm. when you went down latters if a door was open don't remember where that big mother was their. so that is 2 do not know if their was more. ken

Name: Bill pingel
Email_Address: wpingel@aol.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1970-1973
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V-1 Division
Date: 26 Jul 2010
Time: 14:26

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Charlie………… by the time I was on board we had small ones, they could be carried on an A-4. Every time we went to Japan we had a fly off to send them all back to PI. Japan was a nuclear free zone, they wouldn’t let us in if we had them on board. We also launched the A-3 a lot, we used them as tankers.

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Helmut as I remember they kept Tilly parked right behind the aft side of the of the island structure, we had I think 2 A3's I have never seen one fly, It had twin engines and as I was told it could carry the bomb. I only seen it once on the hangerdeck coming up off the elevator in a cart, it was darken ship and had an armed Marine with it, It was painted silver. I think they called condition Arad which shut the radar down. It was spooky to me. I don't know how many Hanna had but have never thought about them before....Charlie

Name: John LeJeune
Email_Address: scrollman60@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1964-1966
Division_Squadron_Detachment: VF211
Date: 26 Jul 2010
Time: 09:57

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We had a pilot catch the barricade don't remember which year but the pilots name was Chancy flying an F-8E

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NEW MEMBERS: The following are new members since 1 June 2010. If you want their contact info before the Sept issue of Hannah News comes out, contact me. James R. Elbe, VA-55(ASH3), 68-71, Vic D'Agustino, B(BT2)67-68, Phil Graver, N (QM2) 69-71, Gregory Langley, OP(PH2), Fred Roehrbein, V-2 (ABH3), 66-69, Stephen Tomeck, Mar Det 69-71. Welcome Aboard Shipmates.

Name: Wayne Erven, Life Member #3, Membership Chairman
Email_Address: oldsalt2@comcast.net
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1965-1968
Division_Squadron_Detachment: Ops Office
Date: 25 Jul 2010
Time: 11:25

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NEW LIFE MEMBER. Our 38th new Life Member since 1 June: #393, Louis Blunt, SK2, S1 Div, 68-71. Louis will never have to pay dues again. How about you?

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Wikipedia is very interesting reading about the F-8, Dean that front landing gear you were talking about got the nick-name of the "Ensign Wheel" It broke record speeds at China Lake in 56, It had the highest kill ratio of any aircraft in Vietnam 19:3, It was a day fighter. It told about it's yawl problems. It was retired in 99....Charlie

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I was on the 07 level watching landings when one of VA-212's A-4s landed. No sooner had the plane stopped that the pilot popped the canopy, climbed out of the cockpit and dropped to the deck. He started running toward the island when he tripped and fell. He got up and started running again. Suddenly the A-4 exploded and was engulfed in a ball of flame. I estimated that this event took about 20 seconds. After the crash crew put out the fire, Tilly pushed the wreck over the port side. I witnessed all this action and I didn't have my camera with me.

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Dean I watched them pratice putting that Nylon Barrier up once, I've never seen it used, To me that F-8 was a jet engine with a saddle on it. It didn't look like Pilots had much room in it ? Mike I got my Hanna news in the mail, thanks......Charlie

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Charlie Riddens: A Crusader came in and broke his landing gear. He hit his afterburner and started to climb. The Navy I guess was thinking they would bring the ship aboard by setting up the nylon barrier. Some confusion. Another crusader came in and hit the nylon barrier and took it clear off the ship. It was hanging over our gunmounts by the tail. the pilot jumped in the water and was picked up by a destroyer that was running plane guard. In the mean time the other crusader ditched. Pilot ejected and was picked up. While the crusader was being dragged in the water, held by the tail to the naylon barrier, a boatswains mate came up, and I would assume under orders, took out his knife and cut the nylon barrier and the plane went to the bottom. Another crusader in that same period, came in and broke his front landing gear. As he ejected the plane rolled left and he ejected into the water. He didn't make it. Later in the cruise, we lost thre Navy and one Marine pilot.

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Also, I was working or at least attended a two day meeting. Managed to stay awake (well most of the time). Good flights out and back from Boston. Pretty bad weather in Colorado Springs on Tuesday when I flew in. I missed it, but there were severe T-Storms and even a Tornado (according to the local news) later that evening.Pete

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Charlie, I did not fly the F-8 off the boat, only the A-4. I was with my first squadron at Cecil Field, FL when I was flying the F-8 in '70. Aboard the Hannah, I flew the A-4F. With regards to the bouncing around on the trap, I believe since the F-8 was low to the deck, any drift in lineup at the trap would cause an assymetric load and cause the wire to pull the a/c around. You certainly knew when you had trapped, especially if you forgot to lock your harness. Broke one or two helmet visors on the glare shield:) Would get one's attention!Pete

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Come on Pete, were you really working? Hey Pete fly this Crusader for us, we have a discussion going on about it. all I know is what I thought you and the XO said about it a while back. I never understood how you Pilots could push your aircraft to the limits and hoped it would stay together.....Charlie

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Reporting my return aboard from another successful TDY to Colorado Springs (work this time). Think I am done with travel until Tailhook in Sept. Hi Charlie.Pete

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Dean, that front landing gear did take some punishment, I saw the Pilots bounce around like rag dolls when they hit. I watched them from the Vultures roost. I don't think you'l go it the drink if you catch a wire? We had one hit the ramp and I think another had a problem on launch and went into the drink but verd to the port side to keep Hanna from running over him an ejected as he hit the water. I never have accused a fighter Pilot of haveing good sense. The flight deck crew was about as bad. I felt safe under the armor deck.....Charlie

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Charlie: The Hancock was the first ship to take the Crusader into operations. We lost five of them before we got out of Hawaii. There was a fault in the front landing gear which caused it to collapse on the hard carrier landing. I watched two go in the drink in five minutes. Whatever the problem was it seemed to have been fixed as we had no other losses to Crusaders during our WestPac cruise.

I still have my cruise books from the 57 & 58 deployments.

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shipmates, had the pleasure of seeing a tribute to john finn on our pbs station last nite while channel surfing. ie; kpbs, san diego. the program was ken kreamers "san diego, then and now ". the clip was well done and a live [at that time] interview with john. wish that i had had the chance to visit more with john when we met at the reunion here in sd. a very interesting man ! rob

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Dean, from what a couple of the Pilot's here have said was the 1st model's of that Crusader was that it was a nightmare to land because of a slow respose time of the throttle and had to land it at a higher speed less than ideal to control it. I think Pete flew a Hotrod version in later yrs. Hey Pete I think we have a big thunderhead coming our way you can fly around:), I liked that story....Charlie

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Rob, I learned yrs ago to spray WD 40 in the carb of a lawn mower to crank it if its set up for a while. it won't give it a dry start like eaither that washes the oil for the piston. The SeaBee's hate'd pony engines they had to use eaither on to crank to spin the main engine in cold weather, some large equipment you can't push off because the hydralic's don't work until the main is cranked..... Charlie

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Rob, the gun captains in 58 were Sgts Barlean and Sgt Posey. The Navy gunnersmate was a 1st class named McCain, a WW11 vet.

Sgt Posey is gone now, but I am still in contact with Sgt Barlean and Sgt Blaney.

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Dean, I always heard we were the big dog on the block. In home port it seemed like we spent as much time at Hunters Point as in berth getting new stuff put on us. She was fast also, My 1st cruise scared me to death, We got in a storm and I thought she was going to come apart. the screws came out of the water and when they went back in she would shudder like a dog passing a peach seed. I knew I couldn't swim home.....Charlie

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Rob Morris: On our 1957 cruise, Jim Blaney was gun Capt. of one of the 5 inch guns. I will email him and ask the name of the other gun Capt. I will also email others to see who the gun Capt.'s were during the 1958 cruise. I was on Jim's gun during the 57 cruise, before I went topside to the Sky radar gun directors.

Concerning the F8U Crusader: The Hancock was the first carrier to take it into operation. 1958. We lost several of them. Also the Sidewinder was displayed to SEATO that came aboard in 1958. The Hancock in 1958 was the most powerful ship in the world.

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Dean, many thanks for the come back. as you could tell i was on local control just hopeing that you might have been on that crew or could remember who it was. Wayne, the bunks in the para loft were on the port side [end of the loft] and one morning at o'dark30 a spad dropped a wheel off the deck and stuck a prop blade thru the deck above the bunks during respot, talk about a noise and an almost brown fart sack cover. Charlie, you are most welcome for the WD40 info. noticed that they did not mention it burns. was fishing and ran out of fuel 1 time .sprayed WD into the carb and almost got to shore without paddling b4 we ran out of the stuff. smooth sailing mates, and thanks for the come backs ! rob

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Dennis I think by the time I came aboard Sidewinders and radar expanded defensive range. The gun tubs were gone. They had safety netting and LOX stations to fill carts. We had that COD with the big mushroom on top. I rememger us pulling a sled and the Crusaders straffing it. I loved that plane, It just had go fast written all over it. Were you aboard when the Russian Bear flew over at low level with Crusaders escorting it......Charlie

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Dean, by the time I came aboard all we had left were the four 5 inch and a salute gun. I wondered about protection and they said if they get past the fighters we are done for anyway so don't worry about it. Newer and stronger weapons plus loft bombing. I guess I had seen too many WWII movies. I knew that the crews were good on the ones we had even if some one got through the aircraft. We had a great bunch of Marines on the Hanna but I never saw many up where I worked unless some Marine Airedales came aboard for carrier quals. Dennis

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Our task force was in a line to shoot at a radio controled drone. Destroyer fired first and missed, the heavy cruiser Worchester broad sided at the drone and missed, the Hancock opened up with 4 five inch guns and several 3 inch guns and missed. The last ship in line was a destroyer. They took one shot and knocked it out of the sky.

When shooting at socks, we knew the Navy didn't want us to really hit it, but we wanted to score a hit. I would take the controls out of automatic and track manually. Thats how we would hit the sock. I guess I can tell that now after 53 years.

Name: Wayne Erven, Membership Chairman
Email_Address: oldsalt2@comcast.net
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1965-1968
Division_Squadron_Detachment: Ops Office
Date: 21 Jul 2010
Time: 16:26

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MORE LIFE MEMBERS who will not have to remember to pay dues again: #384 Donald Abrahams, V-2, 44-45; #385 William Flansburg, V-2, 45-46; #386 James Franklin, A, 45-46; #387 Russell Johnson, VT-7, ENS, Pilot, 44-45; #388 Martin Landon, G, 64-66; #389 Pete Lynch, MAJ, USMC Ret, VMF-214, 57; #390 William Riethmiller, OI, 63-66; #391 Allen Steiner, GM (AO3), 63-65; #392 William Zagone, H, 45-46

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I ordered me a keyboard today that has 1" big yellow keys, now all I need is a decent spell check.....Charlie

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Charlie, if you wire up a house without any circuit breakers or fuses and everything else is good no problem, but if you have any short or overload it is like placing a wire between the terminals of a car battery, something is gonna burn at least till the wire burns itself open which is what a fuse or circuit breaker does. For Dean Dunn, I remember how good you guys were on the 5 inch, you would knock down the drone, shoot the sock off the tow aircraft usually within the first one or two shots and piss them off. You were only supposed to get close to the drone so it would trigger the chute and drop it, you guys blew one right out of the air and they were only 5 or 6 feet long. Loved to watch it. Dennis

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Dean... On my last cruise, my berthing compartment was in a wide spot in a passageway on the outside bulkhead of the ship. The port rear 5 inch gun mount couldn't have been more then 50 feet away and when they fired those guns it sounded like you were in a large galvinized garbage can with someone wailing on it with a sledgehammer! I always hated it when they shot those things off. (Especially if I was coming off of the 4-8 watch!)

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Ken I was refering to a house with overloaded circuits.... Charlie.

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NEW LIFE MEMBERS who will not have to worry about forgetting their dues again: #372 Robert Benedict, AMM, 44-45; #373 John Blaul, V-2, 45; #374 Thomas Dobbins, V-1, 68-71; #375 Max Fryar, YNCM Ret, Eng Log Room, 54-55; #376 Robert Hirst, VB-6, 45; #377 Allen Jones, R, 58-61, #378 James Perotte, V-6, AT2, 53-54; #379 Jack Queen, B WT3c, 44-46; #380 William Robison, S-6, 73-76; #1 Edgar Schneider, E, 44-46; #382 Emmanuel Staudinger, VF-7, 44-45; #383 Kenneth Towers, CR Div Officer, 71-75.

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Fire Control Radar; There was a time in 1958, when an F8U Crusader broke a landing gear and had to ditch. The gun boss, Cmdr Crane got me on the head set and told me to track him. I tracked him on radar and the pilot was picked up within a minute of hitting the water. In 1957 a Marine plane went down in view of the ship in daylight. He fired a flare and we still couldn't find him.

What was awesome was when we would have firing exercises. I was the pointer in Sky 1 and when I was given the order to commence firing, I would pass it on the the crews and then squeeze my trigger. Four five inch guns would go off at the same time. After the first shot, they would then fire as fast as they could be reloaded.

Remembering!

Name: kenneth sureddid
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft eng. rm.
Date: 20 Jul 2010
Time: 15:52

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charlie, got to be a big copper line. getting close most likly the oil is their. hope they can get it cleaned up. big man made mistake. later ken.

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Dennis, what happens when a guy wires his home all on one circuit without a circuit breaker.?? ....Charlie

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Dean I think we had to pull into SF once useing fire control radar because of the fog. as I was told they had to shut the big radars down within a certain distance from land because of all the electrical interferance we gave the civilians. I don't know how much truth there is to this but somehow we didn't knock the Golden Gate down and made it back to berth....Charlie

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For Rob Morris: I am still in touch with one of the gun captains. I was in his gun crew before I went up top side to Sky 1 radar gun director. Over the two years though, there would have been different gun captains.

I remember putting the gun right through the side of an AD one time during air defense operations. The plane was spotted directly over our gun and I didn't see it.

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I started out this am separating some things I was going to take to the Naval Home. I give up, what am I going to do with my military kevlar body armor, helmet and 4ft genuine imitation Viking Sword. That thing must weigh 30 lbs, deploying military has given me a lot. the vest is outdated as they were issued a newer version. I think when D-day arrives I will take what I need and let my son worry about the rest, nothing better than delagating authourity......Charlie

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Dennis It's pathetic when they hide behind skirts and children. I don't remember what they call those little remote control spy planes but they would be a lot of help if there were boots on the ground to back them, most problems you can throw a parimeter around when detected. I'm sure you know Military and Law Enforcement tactics LE uses the same manuals as the Military, in the Seabee's we used US Army manuals as did the Marines. Pot is childs play up next to meth. All dope destroys family, neighbor hood and our schools infrastucture.....Charlie

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The best thing about taking out the dopers like that "It never happened" Another thing they would do is tie a duffel type bag on the back of a twin engine Beech craft or Piper Cub with a long rope. If spotted they could hit a release and it would drop, that way if they were forced down there was no trace of dope anywhere on the aircraft. They didn't have to land and potentially be set up in a trap delivering drugs. We just gotta keep trying every time they change we adapt to get them. Dennis

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Charlie, Years ago I was down in Tuscon, AZ doing fire inspections on active ICBM silos, got talking to some Navy pilots that flew coastal drug patrol between Cuba and the US. I asked "Isn't it frustrating when you know you got them and just can't shoot them down because you not only need miles of permission but have to account for any shots fired" "Just like a Cop that knows he has the bad guy but isn't allowed to do anything" One of them told me "If they just give us 50 feet below them , they are goners, we can swoop down under them and it sucks the air out from under them and in they go, but now they have taken to putting kids on their laps and they know an American won't take them down and kill a kid" Some very crazy crap goes on that no one ever hears about. Dennis

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Dennis, when I was in Germany they fired a signal cannon every mourning for colors. Guys were always putting a full can of beer in it. If the didn't check it before fireing they had a unguided missile. I heard one went though a window in dependent Qts across the grinder. The base was small and rebuilt from an old German instalation. Houseing was new. HQ was there not our tanks. The interiour walls of a lot of buildings had inset rifle racks for their Soldiers, All that stuff was interesting to me.....Charlie

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Dennis, you may already know this but linament that old people used to buy at a drug store will soak into a rusted stud or nut and bolt better, after soaking it for a while break it then use Wd 40 to remove it. It will help you from twisting studs off, I'm sure you no what a pain that is as many cars as you have rebuilt. car lugs also.I bought a thing at a tool store you put on lug nuts with a reduction gear that a kid can take them off....Charlie

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Charlie, here is another one for you. When I was working on cars or outside, I always seemed to cut myself some where, I would slap some duct tape on it and keep going. I swear that duct tape makes it heal faster. It heals cars in NASCAR so why not us. Also WD-40 works just as well as the high dollar fish attractant you can get at the bait store. It will lubricate good for a short time but not for the long haul. It also works great in a spud gun as it burns good and also lubricates the barrel for the next shot. Got my butt in trouble shooting a high power spud gun off in a campground, they considered it a firearm. Had a 4" diameter chamber going down to a 1 1/2 inch dia. barrel and would shoot a potato about 5oo yards. Dennis

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Rob, thanks for the e-mail about WD-40, I knew it was made from fish oil and knew an old woman that swore by it for her autharitis yours ago. Don't temp me :) that and duct tape makes the world go around .....Charlie

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Ken, to me the Hanna was like a giant puzzle and every person had to do their job or the puzzle wasn't complete. I had an easy job in 02N2. I just made a bad decision leaving the Hanna, going into other branchs of service. PS the checks in the mail to renew my membership so your going to have to put up with me a while longer....Charlie

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Dennis, I have always tried not to put a shot across someones bow. If they do mine I go to GQ and still do. the headshed isn't to crazy about it. life isn't always fair weather and following seas like when we used to go to the fantail and watch the Hannas screws churn up the phosphurious with bright stars and you airdales would knock all the racket off topside....Charlie

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Dennis...I never knew that so many of your family is currently serving. As far as I'm concerned, you've earned your right to sound off on this or any other site and that goes for your boys, too. We've all put our names on that dotted line and given up years to have that right. I think we can all handle a little discourse now and again, as long as it doesn't get reduced to name calling.

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HI,SHIPMATES BEEN TRAVELING FOR A G'DAUGHTERS WEDDING SO HAVE NOT MONITORED THE SITE FOR A WHILE [3 WEEKS +]. THE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT POLITICAL COMMENTS ARE RIGHT. THIS IS NO PLACE FOR THEM ! IF YOU WISH TO COMMENT GO TO THE "FORUM" AND THREAD THEM ! NEXT SUBJECT - WILL THE MARINE FROM THE DETACHMENT PLEASE CONTACT ME. I USED TO HAVE THE GUNNERS FROM THE AFT PORT 38'S COME INTO THE PARACHUTE LOFT FOR COFFEE AND WARM UPS. AM ESPECIALLY INTERESTED IN THE CORPORAL THAT WAS GUN CAPT [?] DO NOT REMEMBER HIS NAME THOUGH. THANKS IN ADVANCE. WILL PROBALLY HAVE MORE TO COMMENT ON AS I WADE BACK INTO THE ENTRYS. SMOOTH SAILING AND FAIR WINDS, ROB

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Dennis, I don't know about the peace keeper part, I just don't want the pot to boil over and try to turn down the heat. Like I told Gordon the most they can do is make us walk the plank. Things have made us a more davided Nation and more complicated. I take TV with a grain of salt. some people live by it. theres to much saturation. It's simple to me, go by the "Constitution" or "Bill of Rights" or get out of my life. I don't care what you are. I don't think DC has learned 1 thing from Nam, bring our guys home. we have a lot of work to do here...Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 19 Jul 2010
Time: 18:25

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dennis, charlie, i know that i had it very easy. i do think it was not that easy,for charlie,dennis pete. but i do know that dean is a shipmate. i was on Hancock for 1 year and 8 month. we do have to be careful wat's going on. ya'll have a good night. ken

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Charlie, I also have a son in law that has spent 4 tours over there and one in Bosnia and one in Korea and only has 15 years in, I wonder if he will ever get one of those soft stateside jobs. My step son has been in Latvia for 3 years now and is Michigan National Guard working out of the embassy. God bless all our troops wherever they are and God please give our leaders some brains for a change. That is the kind of change we needed not the loss of what little brains they might have had. I agree that DC needs a good enema and that the old ones corrupt the new ones, a fresh start on all fronts would be a good way to let them know the people are paying attention to them and to do right by those who put them in in the first place. Dennis

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Charlie, You sure have settled down a lot. Now I see you being a peace keeper on stuff you used to get in trouble over. I also have very strong views on what our government is become but like expressing them to my wife (who is politically completely opposite of me) I know when to pick my battles. The first trip I remember was near the middle of May 1962 we were going to head to Australia and they diverted us down off Nam to support the Marines landing in Cambodia. I believe that was the first involvement of a way they decided 10 years afterwords that we should have never been there.Typical government hindsight. I wonder how long after this latest fiasco it will take them to figure it out and how many bodies sent home. My granddaughter just got home from Baghdad after 7 1/2 months and hated it there, second trip over for her. Dennis

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Joe, I was aboard when we pulled out of Hong Kong. I had duty when we pulled hook, We thought we were going to Australia and we ended up with a mission in Cambodia. I know we left Hong Kong ahead of schedule. Dennis the walking encyclopedia will know more, I had no idea we left anyone behind. All I got was a good conduct ribbon from the Hanna and didn't deserve that......Charlie

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Thanks for the good words Mac, I have driven across Az many times. I really like it, to me it's land locked with no ocean. I just have strong feelings about things I have learned from past experance that might conflict with others. I do have strong feelings about states rights, There is a star on our flag for each one of them for that reason. some may call it politics but I call it history. I've learnd a lot from point of views of our shipmates.....Charlie

Name: Dahl T. "Mac" McChristian
Email_Address: DelMarC3Corvettes@comcast.net
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1961-1964
Division_Squadron_Detachment: M-Div Supply PO
Date: 18 Jul 2010
Time: 21:25

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Charlie Congratulations, I see that you are going to return to the New Naval Home and that you are doing well. I understand how you feel about CuJo.Charlie you are correct concerning John Finn What a Hero and a very Humble Man. I also did not know the man. Politics's We have the very best Governor , Jan Brewer here in Arizona.What is it that people do not understand about the word Illegal and the second word Aliens. Here in Arizona we have Diamondback Rattle Snakes, and one thing we Don't Rely on is the Rattlers Rattle to Warn us of Danger, They do not always Rattle Something like our Leaders in D.C. "Respectfully" Times are very Tough in this year of 2010 and we see no light at the end of the tunnel. Navy, Marines etc., Marine you served on board the USS HANCOCK CVA 19 Thanks for Your Service Charlie glade to see that you still have Top Watch. XO-MR TOM WIMBERLY, I received my Life Member Pin of 30 years in 2009 from my Masonic Lodge. Good Health to All

Name: Ray Rinaldi PR3
Email_Address: rayr1006@hotmail.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1957/58
Division_Squadron_Detachment: VA116
Date: 18 Jul 2010
Time: 19:01

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Dean, 2 years aboard for sure makes you a member, I feel politics should not be on this web. But you have to understand a lot of us old timers remember what it was like back in the 50s&60s and we are a little up set about the way the country is being run. Dont worry about being in the same class as WTC muslems. I dont think the other mates feel that way Take care Marine Ray

Name: Joe S. Garcia, Jr.
Email_Address: joesabra@hollinet.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1961-1964
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V-3 & V-1
Date: 18 Jul 2010
Time: 18:57

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Do you have the story of when we pulled out of Hong Kong leaving 1/@ the ships company and sailed full steam down to Viet Nam to fly cover for pulling out civilians. Then later on when we were again in Hong Kong, we left 1/3 ships company and again sailed down to fly cover for the civilians being pulled out of Laos and Nam. The guys left behind didn't like it because they didn't have any money or extra clothes. That was the latter part of 1963. Got a Epox medal for it.

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I got a call from Mike a little while ago and he sent me a copy of the Hannah news in my email. It is the best one I have seen to date. I never knew John Finn but he's a true Hero. It was in color, The pictures of the Ships bell were gerat. I've never seen the Bridge of the Hannah before, that was interesting. I got an e-mail from Wayne explaning to expeditionary ribbon better. It took him several years after the fact for personel to catch up. I found out my membership is up this mo so out with the check book. Mike ask me about the Naval Home and CuJo, he has 2 dogs that are very close to his family also. He ask about sending her to Toni but She has 2 in CC and I want to have her closer where I can visit. I have until late Sept to figure that out....Charlie

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Ray Rinaldi, The Sgt. that chewed your butt in 1957 was SSgt Roper, our Gunny. Believe me, I had my butt chewed out by him many times.

As for political comments. I made no reference to any party affiliation, did not mention any president or anyone that post here. It is a given that when someone starts to get political, they may offend someone else. At any given time the politics of people will be split at about 50/50.

Now because I made the statement that I didn't think this log should be used for political purposes, my name has now become associated with the WTC, muslems, God in our Pledge of Alliagence, etc.

I am active in the Marine Corps League and when we say the Pledge of Allegiance, God is included.

Having spent just a few days shy of two years aboad the Hancock, I considered myself as much a crew member as anyone.

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I got some kind of encrypted garble e-mail this AM. I have no idea what it is, I deleated it. I don't keep anything on my computer I don't know what was. It must have been sent to me by accident because it looked like crypto where the reciever has to have a key. I had a cryto book in Germany where they key would change during designated hrs and I would have to go to that page to get the key to read it or send a message back. I was in a Tank on the 5k zone at Fulda Gap....Charlie

Name: Phil Torres
Email_Address: phil.torres
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1965-1968
Division_Squadron_Detachment: E Div IC Gang
Date: 17 Jul 2010
Time: 21:20

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Pete Congratulations on you and your Mom being able to attend the dedication ceremony of the PBY that your father flew. It looks like a lot of work went into the restoration, Good job. Phil

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Mac, I just happen to think, this post of yours came through here good? I remember you saying you went to suppy and it was a gravy job. Try posting again... Charlie

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Lyn, I've been wondering about mine? the expiration date sapose to be on the Hannah News, I never got mine, I could already be cut off. I always trash the envelope and keep the news so I don't have any past ones. I'm waiting for the next. theres an application in the back of them I can send a check in.....Charlie

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Mac, I have no idea myself ? I haven't read your post in a long time. try e-mailing me. I will try e-mailing you....Charlie

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donald, some of that stuff thay i post. it's american never been refused. one marine did not like it. do not know if he was trying to put a feather in his hat or not. but this sailor will be watching. ken

Name: Lynn Davidson
Email_Address: lynn.davidson@pokagonband-nsn.gov
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1971-1973
Division_Squadron_Detachment: 2nd Deck Department
Date: 17 Jul 2010
Time: 18:45

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Was member let my membership expire. Need to get back on board.

Name: Dahl T. "Mac" McChristian
Email_Address: DelMarC3Corvettes@comcast.net
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1961-64
Division_Squadron_Detachment: M-Div Supply PO
Date: 17 Jul 2010
Time: 18:39

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Donald Mettler: I was viewing the Quarterdeck Post /Comments late this evening and notice that all except one of my comments were removed. I request tom know the reason for the removal. The subject matter contained no Derogatory Statements Concerning Persons , Religion or Political Matter. This is the second occurrence and I would like to know if you have a problem with my post /comments and if so Confront me with same!!! I very seldom post any comments , although I enjoy reading them , while my wife and I are at our home in Miraflores , Lima Peru , and when we return to our home in Tucson , AZ. Then I will post to Charlie Ridens. Please feel free to contact me @ my my home in Tucson, AZ

I did the Email thing @ the Webmaster & Personal no success................................................................. Mac McChristian

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just wondering, do know what you and mom put together was very good . and i got to see who pete the pilot was. and that"s a plus that"s is their. done moved it to ken"s folder. my kids----- and grandkits--- would never understand it anyway. i do. later ken

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Wayne, that Expeditionary Medal was always confuseing to me. It seem to me a lot was issued after reserch of a unit that personel dept didn't know if they had them coming or not so were not put on DD 214's, I had no problem with mine being in a MAG group hiting Nam. the 2nd trip I got the Vietnam Service Medal and could wear both. The Vietnam Cross of Gallantry you wore on the right breast on Army class A's because its not American. the Navy you don't wear anything that side. I got where I would give it all to my boss and say you fix these ribbons the way you want. The Navy never did know what to do with my Jungle Warfare Expert Patch. theres no ribbon....Charlie

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Ken, I assume you are refering to the pic with Wally Funk. He is the ex-publisher (did not know the man before) of the local Oak Harbor paper. VIP in Whidbey Island circles. Photo op was asked, and mother and I complied. Good man to know for fundraising for the PBY. Pete

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dean you got a respones. that's what the Navy does. in fac. i got one comimg. but ribbions and medals did not give us freedom. it was the people doing it. and you where a big part of it. glad you got one. lets go from here. ken.

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In reply to Dean who inquired if HANCOCK got any awards in l957-58 off Formosa (Taiwan Straits), the answer is Yes. If you served on board during the following periods, you are entitled to the Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal. Mike Verville, 2nd Vice President, researched this information.

26 Aug 57 to 7 Sep 58, l4-l7 Sep 59

Check Mike Verville's entry on the home page concerning awards. The same basic information applies on how to obtain this medal, and have a correction made to your DD 214. to this Medal.

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charlie, got to check in with my 1st. class. doing ok here, how's about you? back from liberty going to cut it back a little. later ken.

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pete, this is me. i enjoyed the link, you and your mon look ok. the guy in picture if i might asked who is that?. ken.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal..net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft eng. rm.
Date: 17 Jul 2010
Time: 12:09

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Pete, The dedication of PBY that your Dad flew in World War 2 looks like it was very successful. Thanks for the pictures, articles and information. You both looked very well in the picture. Thanks Again, Ken

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Welcome back, Pete. I'm glad that you and your mother had a great time at your father's PBY ceremony.

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Roger That, Wayne. I did get to climb all over the aircraft the day before the ceremony. Got the "fam flight" the chief restoration guy. The plane is in remarkably good condition. Got a picture of me in the cockpit.Pete

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Pete, very impressive site. Did you get a chance to go up inside? What a thrill it must have been for your mother. As for the movement of the Coast Guard aviator on your plane home, it served as a reminder to all the civilian passengers that "Freedom is not free!"

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Welcome back Pete, the crew has missed you. the weather looked great up there in your pics. I liked Wa. state other than the weather. I've flown up there twice and driven once not counting in the yards with the Hanna. It is beautiful.....Charlie

Name: Pete Cole
Email_Address: petecole@earthlink,net
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1973-1975
Division_Squadron_Detachment: VA-212
Date: 16 Jul 2010
Time: 19:23

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Shipmates, our plane on the return from Seattle to Boston had the honor to carry a fallen Coast Guard officer in the line of duty. There was a helicopter lost at sea the week before. Crew of four with one survivor. There was a nice ceremony on the ramp at Seattle when we were boarding Looking through the windows in the boarding area..police, fire, Coast Guard.. The JetBlue Capt asked everyone to wait for the Coast Guard escorts to deplane at Boston. Everyone was very respectful.Another ceremony on arrival. Pete

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Reporting my return aboard from TDY to NAS Whidbey Island. Mission to dedicate the PBY my father flew during the Aleutian Campaign in WII was successfully executed. My moment of fame is documented on the PBY Memorial Foundation web site: http://www.pbyma.org/. Check out the other photos of the ceremony by clicking the "photos" button in the menu bar. Was a nice ceremony, and Capt David, CO of Whidbey, could not have been more supportive. It was a perfict day and my mother was in her glory.Pete

Dr Ritter, welcome aboard squadron mate.

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Bill...One of the places I have wanted to visit before I die is Gettysburg. The last ships reunion was supposed to be my ticket into the New England colonies, but this years finances sort of snuck up and bit me on the ass. We had to cancel our trip to DC and the reunion. I hear that it's beautiful country and the history is really interresting. Enjoy your trip.

Name: Bill Burgess
Email_Address: blbrgss@aol.com
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1968-1972
Division_Squadron_Detachment: B-div
Date: 16 Jul 2010
Time: 05:34

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Hi to all shipmates, hope you are having a great summer. I'm spending time in Chambersburg, pa. for close to a month with Daughter, Grandaughter, & son inlaw. Plan to visit Gettysburg again this year, as it is close by. Also brought my mountain bike along, and have been doing some rides in the appalchian mountains, near the appalchian trail. The mountains are very beautiful, with lots of trees, (much differernt than in Calif). Take care all. Bill

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Wayne, I'm glad I wasn't with you, I know you'd hate to see a grown man cry, what a sad story. The last I seen her was in the PI. My memory isn't makeing sense though, I just came it for R&R from Nam to Subic, She was anchored out and a liberty lanch just came in from her. I almost road it back to her but didn't know if they would let me aboard. I was in a hurry to get to town and fall in love....Charlie

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Welcome aboard, Dr. Ritter. I read your entry about attending the Hanna's decommissioning. I wish I would have known about that, since I lived in San Jose that year. I was working in the Los Angeles area at that time and flew home on weekends. I was driving down the Harbor Freeway leaving San Pedro harbor and passed the Terminal Island ship yards when I saw a huge hunk of steel swinging in the wind from one of their cranes. I was totally awestruck when a huge white 19 showed up on the side! It was the Hancock superstructure being cut away from the flight deck. I stopped by the side of the freeway(which is illegal here unless it's an emergency) and spent a half hour watching the work going on. I was finally chased off by a highway patrol officer, but I didn't get ticketed after mentioning that I was on that ship in Vietnam. He must have been ex-military.

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Dr Ritter were you a Dr aboard the Hanna. I've only been to sickbay twice. once a couple days out of yokuska I beat on sickbays doors at 0:300 because critters were chewing on the pink parts, and the next time I told a guy to scrub my coffee pot. he used brasso, and I didn't know witch end to put in the pot. I still think it was a communist plot....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddinsbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div.aft. eng. rm.
Date: 15 Jul 2010
Time: 19:07

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charlie, ken dose not believe in this stuff that went down. but that marine can go wherevery.charlie its getting close. and you got it coming. hope .to meet you one day.later ken

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Ray, they will have to pry this mouse out of my cold dead fingers. I will be here. I'm looking fwd to the Naval Home to be back with Military. It is all branches of service. when I was evacuated to DC very few ever saw a SeaBee before but know our reputation. I wore my SeaBee ballcap to the lounge one evening. guys were always bragging about their there branch of service, but they all respected the Bees, I've been fleet and Army also. AF schools were a joke. Jungle Warfare School in Panama liked to killed me, my hair even hurt...Charlie

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charlie, i think i will be loseing to talk. that's fine. but that marine better be careful. because this navy guy did not like the stamement he made. so we go from here.ken.

Name: Ray Rinaldi Parachute Rigger 3rd
Email_Address: rayr1006@hotmail.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1957/58
Division_Squadron_Detachment: VA116
Date: 15 Jul 2010
Time: 17:12

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Charlie Good luck at the Navy home. Hope you take your computer with you. I would sure miss your commets on the web.Ken I know how you feel about this great country. Lets hope we are able to change things in nov.and 2012. Dean you had a buck sgt. on the 57 cruise. He had a handle bar mustach. He caught me in green country one day and chewed my butt out.Ray

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Be nice Ken, time to let the boilers cool a little. we don't want anyone to jump ship. A shipmate is a shipmate. I feel like a ton has been lifted off me getting the oil flow stopped. Get the Chief to bring you a cold beer. CuJo makes me get my own.....Charlie

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charlie, dean can start his own web. this is what we have done for years. and it is not doing better.when them .muselim get it built. he can go worship it. are shut up. guess you can see i am amercan. he is american the one running it is not.in his meetings they where pons. they did a very good job in the wars.dean this is what i think, you might be different from me. have a good night ken.

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Dean, don't get your web belt in a wad, I'm a Sailor and could care less about your League. A couple of us let off a little steam so what. My last 11 yrs of service was in the SeaBees and been around you guys a lot. Unfix Bayonets, It blows over. Your Shipmate....Charlie

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Wayne: empty suit or skirt means no person of any significance inside of either one. This not only applies to the annointed one but to many others in congress. This is probably considered political in nature but I have never been accused and proven to be politically correct and probably never will be. Phil

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Dr Ritter I'm sure you had mixed feelings at the retirement of the Hanna. before I found this site I found one that had a picture of her all rusted up waiting to be scraped. It broke my heart. She was a great Ship. What part of the country are you in?.....Charlie

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VA-216 was known as the Black Diamonds. A diamondback is a snake and also a Colt revolver. I'm sure it would have been a fitting name.

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Hey Ken, I see they have the oil shut off in the Gulf. I Pray to God it holds. Katrina was one thing but this is a lot worse, We sure don't need a Huricane on top of this....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal. net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m. div.aft. eng. rm.
Date: 15 Jul 2010
Time: 14:05

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dean, i do not know if you where pointing your finger at me for being disrespectful,if so fine.the ones that are disrespectful or the ones that took prayer,ten conmamments and are trying to take american flag down. now they want to put their victory semble over the 911 towers. you just sit their and let them do it. ken

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Welcome aboard Larry Charles. Now there are two or three of us from VA-216. I came aboard Hancock in Dec. 1964 so we may have not met. Although I was a Parachute Rigger striker, I was issued a brown shirt and worked for ADJ-3 Roy Starnes in the hanger-bay before finally making it to the loft.

Name: Larry Gene Charles
Email_Address: toni1585@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: .
Years_Aboard: 1964-1965
Division_Squadron_Detachment: Diamondback VA-216
Date: 15 Jul 2010
Time: 13:15

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Was run over by an aircraft during my secord trip to Vietnam

Name: Bill Burgess
Email_Address: blbrgss@aol.com
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1968-1972
Division_Squadron_Detachment: B Div
Date: 15 Jul 2010
Time: 11:59

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Thanks Dean, Refreshing to hear other opinions expresed on this site.

Name: Dr. Kenneth M. Ritter
Email_Address: kennethritterdc@gmail.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1963-1966
Division_Squadron_Detachment: VA-212
Date: 15 Jul 2010
Time: 11:53

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Attended the decommissioning ceremony at Alameda, in 1976. Very sad day, but proud as well, to have been a part of this great ship!

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Dean I rememer them, luckys, and Camels, In Nam on patrol we had LURPS, and I think the chow tents had what they called K-rations. Later in the SeaBees we have MRE's. I've got a couple case's stored incase we have another bad hurricane....Charlie

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Great to see our own website!

Name: Dean Dunn
Email_Address: c0219@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 56,57,58
Division_Squadron_Detachment: MarDet
Date: 15 Jul 2010
Time: 10:28

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I first had C rations while going thru the Marines Cold Weather training. I recall pulling a cigerette out of a pack of Chesterfields and the tobacco ran out the other end of the cigerette. It was so cold, we had to heat our canteens to get a drink.

Chow on the Hancock was great.

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Thanks Dean, My 1st Cruise I got stuck on a landing party in the PI, we ate e-rations dated 1943, they must have been aboard Hanna since she was launched. they did have a full pack of butts in them. the Marines were smart enough to bring hot sauce and onions. I was on a air cooled 30 cal, That thing was a single shot. The Marine said it needed head spaceing and didn't have the tool that sapose to be in the bag with it. I know the Fleet Marines liked the Hanna....Charlie

Name: Dean Dunn
Email_Address: c0219@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1956,57,58
Division_Squadron_Detachment: MarDet
Date: 15 Jul 2010
Time: 10:03

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One of the rules in the Marine Corps League is that polotics is not allowed to be discussed in any of our meetings. The Quarterdeck Log appears to be a sounding board for people to air their political views, some of which are disrespectful.

This is not the place to air your political laundry and should be monitored by the editor of the Quarterdeck Log.

Name: Dean Dunn
Email_Address: c0219@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1956,57,58
Division_Squadron_Detachment: MarDet
Date: 15 Jul 2010
Time: 09:55

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The Marines were the 7th Div. in the gunnery dept. Their duties date back to John Paul Jones, when Marines were put on board ships. Initially they would be located between the crew and officers compartments, to protect the officers from the crew. Present day, traditionally the Marines are still quartered between the crew and officers. The duties when I was aboard were, manning 2, 5"-38 guns, the radar gun directors, guarding special weapons, the brig, riot control, the ships landing force, the captain and security of the ship.

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Wayne what disturbs me is Homeland Security and appointed Czars bypass Congress and the Constition in the name of National security on Prez orders. Everone sees what DOJ does but we're helpless. Supreme Court is so far left they should move it to SF. Calif has been bankrupt for yrs at tax payers expense. I have heard but don't know for sure China has deflated the dollar so we only have a AA rating on the world market. witch means what you have in the bank is worth less and prices go up...Charlie

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I guess I sound like a cynic, but I think I agree with you, Charlie. Any of the good senators or congressmen will be able to find jobs anyway and even if they don't they're set for life. Our country is controlled by two groups that only want control of the purse strings. The president is only a figure-head of his party and doesn't really have any power unless he convinces the congress to pony up for his vision. With the house and senate in one party's hands, the pocket-lining starts. We have to get the point across to the individual congressmen and senators that they will be removed if they don't follow through for the people that elected them. That would remove the vital nature of having the parties funding for re-election campaigns the highest priority. I believe that is what motivates the TEA party members, or at least the ones that I have spoken with.

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Ken, most Americans are not fools, I say again Americans, what is going on now to me is like ballet stuffing. they, (you no who I'm talking about) are useing illeagl, gays, changing drug laws, race and every thing else they can to stay aftoat. they messed in thier white hat with Az. If we don't get a change made in Nov we will really be hurting.To me toss them all out and start out fresh. the old ones will corrupt the new ones.....Charlie

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charlie, will talk to you later unless they get me later. ken

Name: kennth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 14 Jul 2010
Time: 18:50

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do ya'll know when i put aft. eng. rm. that i am proud of that. because of our troops losing their lives for our freedom, don't make a shit. if our gov. is a dumn ass. our troops are doing a good job, but our leaders are to mm to see that. if they don't wake up it's bad.ken

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phil, have no ideal what you posted in last statement. charlie, have you got rid of all your junk. this has got to be a big move for you. but it will be good for everyone but cujo. your son will take care of her. later ken

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Wayne: Don't forget an empty suit or is it an empty skirt or maybe the Wealth Distributor in Chief.

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guess ya'll can tell i am not happy with what our idoit are doing. and it is not going to get better. no way. they are filling their billfolds up for ME and MINE. screwed america.later ken.

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Phil...Our esteemed president is not a "no load"...he's a pant load.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div.aft. eng. rm.
Date: 14 Jul 2010
Time: 17:11

Comments

everyone, johnson said give everyone food even if they don't work. clinton said give everybody a house even if they can't pay for it because they were making more kids so the working class had to pay for their screwing. and our people that are suppose to be runing this america don't see that. ken

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phil, look at what happen, we have a socilist and muselem runing this country of america. and he is not going to stop. look at the supreim judge that he put their and the senate and house gave it to her. we are in deep shit. latter ken.

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Ken : you might be right about a revolution to get all of the politicos out of Washington as well as the States. As long as people keep voting for these no loads they will continue to win elections. I call them no loads because in a catapault shot without any load attached it is called a no load. A dead load is when a weight equivalent to an aircrtaft is attached. You can't even get them close enough to launch them from their easy chair or wherever they hangout. It must be sweet to serve one term and get a retirement and medical care for the rest of your life. Not the case with us. Phil

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dean, us snipes called ya'll jar heads, marines would take care of brig, and if a pilot went down on takeoff ya'll where their to shoot sharks. we all worked togeather for the USA. marines, army,navy, have all had it pertty hard in wars. but our people that are running this country or not for the USA. need to get rid of the hole bunch. but thats not going to happen without a revolution. thats my input. ken

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Dean, how do they designate Sea Going Marines det's, by their parent divison ? I wasn't aboard when you were....Charlie

Name: Dean C. Dunn
Email_Address: c0219@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1957-58
Division_Squadron_Detachment: MarDet
Date: 14 Jul 2010
Time: 11:50

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Would like to hear from any of the Marines I served with in 1957 and 1958

Name: dean c. dunn
Email_Address: c0219@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1957-1958
Division_Squadron_Detachment: MarDet
Date: 14 Jul 2010
Time: 11:46

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I was aboard the Hancock when we went into the Straights of Formosa and pretty much stopped a war between the two China's. Just wondered if we are entitled to any ribbons or medals for that action? Anybody know?

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Dennis, I've used your joke about putting a wedding band on it posting on FB and got a slew of laughter from women. In Bay Saint Lewis the dog catchers have a plaster cast of a panther running around, other reports of a kangaroo and other varmits, sounds like circus truck must have turned over and some clowns must have escaped also...Charlie

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You bet Ken. They have put things on hold until they run ground readings to make sure when they start chokeing it off it dosen't rupture the crust in the ocean floor somewhere. they are talking 9K PSI. I would have thought they would have have done that a long time ago. It may put them back a week. If that fails all we have left is the side drilling and they don't know if that will work..Charlie

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been watching live vidio on oil well cables that they were cutting got around the saw blade they tried to get undone but well pipe hit arm of robut. hope they get it done. charlie, oil has done got to tex. this oil is bad. it's light oil. going to be a lot of years before nature can take care of man made mistake later ken.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mkssreddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958=1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 13 Jul 2010
Time: 17:27

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charlie, should i tell chief to put them in freezer first then take them to pot on stove? that would mess with that bug for awhile. ha ken.

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Ken, get the Chief to cook you up a pot and see if she can keep them in it....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958- 1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div.aft. eng rm
Date: 13 Jul 2010
Time: 16:28

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charlie,phil, bet them mexican jumping beans was wondering hey wat's. going on. later ken.

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Helmut I'm busting stitches and don't even have any :) Phil's son sure did the larvae in. I've got to get me some ordered. Pete sent me a link to see his Fathers Sea-plane dedication, hopefuly he will post the link here where all hand's can punch it and go to it. I don't know how. I couldn't make out the name on it.....Charlie

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Phil, I'm laughing so hard at your Mexican Jumping Popscicles that my staples are hurting.

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Charlie, I bought some Mexican jumping beans in New Mexico for my son when he was a young kid. They told him the worm inside reacted to heat so when we got back to California, he put them in the freezer and that was the end of the jumping. The worms turned to popsicles. The beans come from a shrub and are generally available from August to November. The worm or larvae is from a moth that lays its eggs during the shrub blosoming in the spring.

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Ken, I get stuff in the mail all the time from people telling me to get on there system to save money. I've had the att senior telephone plan for yrs since I trashed my c-phone. I always hated it and when my son washed it in a pair of my pants when I staid with him one night. prices seem cheap but after they put a the taxes and fees on them it gets crazy.....Charlie

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XO, mexican jumping beans are in season now. I found them on the net, 3 little plastic boxes with 4 ea in them for $8.95 and they pay postage. they don't jump like a lot of people think but the net shows them. they amaze people that haven't seen them. theres a bug in them that reacts to heat......Charlie

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well- charlie been messing with att. and u-verse for about 7 days now. they put me back what i had. the att. guy that came this moring he look at my setup said it will never work. said can you fixed it said no. need to call u-verse. thats were all the bs. started. he told me to wait a couple of days and call u-verse and start over. if the military was run like that. we would me in more trouble then we are.

Name: Max Pate
Email_Address: max-pate@tampabay.rr.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 66-70
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V2 AG
Date: 12 Jul 2010
Time: 10:03

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Helmut Umbley,

Sounds like you’re doing great after the surgery. Keep up the hard work and I’ll see you in Chicago jogging around the Hotel. 2012 or Bust!

Max

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Charlie, I have never seen a Mexican jumping bean. But I have never looked for them.

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XO, have you seen any Mexican Jumping beans around Corpus, I bought a few when I was there many yrs ago. I got a kick out of them, they are something else. I sent Toni a note she should try to find some. I think I bought mine in a quick-stop store, there's a bug in them that makes them jump......Charlie

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Ken, once your in the Naval Home there's only 2 things that will get you kicked out. Fighting or Dope. Those that want to fight can go across the highway and kick up the sand on the beach, There's a walk over the highway. it's pretty steep going up and over, they better take a 6 pack and stop and rest getting over there.....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958- 1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm
Date: 11 Jul 2010
Time: 18:59

Comments

charlie, you are getting closer to the naval home once you get their hang on to a post, tell them you will have too break my arms off to remove me from here.glad to see ya,ll of you are still kicking.later ken.

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Phil, I think that's how long to takes for the bone to grow together without coming apart, I've had a few cast on and that's what they told me, most people have used the old coat hangar trick scratching. Come to think of it I haven't seen anyone whith a cast on in a while.....Charlie

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Helmut, Glad to hear you are doing good after the operation. The last operation I had I asked the doctor how long would it take to get better and his reply was 6 weeks and said don't ask me why that is the way it works so it still seems to be holding true. 6 weeks must be the magic number. Take care of yourself. Phil

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Thanks Dennis, I've never met Jim but have talked with him on the phone and still have the rattlesnake tails with a little Texas badge on them hanging down from my computer shelf among other things. Darn I wish the time would get here for me to get orders to go to the Naval Home would get here. I feel dead in the water. Looking outside it looks like we have a nice brezze from the South, that used to be a good thing but now it just pushes more oil ashore. I hope our Brit Shipmate Gordon hasn't jumped ship, We haven't heard from him in a while among others. Take care Shipmates......Charlie

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Charlie,, Jim seems to be doing much better and sent me some photos of his garden and some very nice tomatoes. From the photos it looks like he has a very green thumb and his garden looks great. It is also varied with different kinds of veggies all of which make me jealous of his gardening skills. He has also had a lot of heat and rain that hasn't hurt his garden any but it looks great. Dennis

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Dennis, we haven't heard from Jim in a while, hows he doing. A funny thing hapend this AM. I woke up with a picture of the book Toni wrote in my minds eye and relised it was a dream when my feet hit the floor. I was going to call her and tell her to send me a signed copy. later she called me after jogging telling me she had finish editing it for the last time and it was going to the press.....Charlie

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The operation was 3 hours. The next morning a pretty 100 pound therapist got me out of bed after showing me various movements. The hip hurt and the leg was as if it were made of cement. We walked a little and then I sat for about 1/2 hour before getting into bed. It was tough going. The 2nd day I was assisted out of bed and walked with crutches the length of the corridor and climbed 6 steps. The 3rd day I got out of bed by myself. The leg was starting to co-operate. The 4th day was a piece of cake and I was discharged. I am moving about the house with ease. I must say that the staff at Salem Hospital made my stay as comfortable as possible. Each, and everyone, was a true proffessional. You just don't know pain until it's gone. It will take about 6 weeks for the muscles to form around my new titanium joint.

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Helmut, from what I see about these new joint replacements are sapose to be great. I bet you will be sore for a while. Now days they want you up and doing things as soon as possible, I don't no about that op. I broke my foot many yrs ago and they put me in traction. I was in a Military hospital at Ft Hood. after lights out who could sleep with all that weight pulling on their leg. I pulled it in and tied it off to the bed post, I got my butt chewed when the woke me up in the mourning...Charlie

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Hope you have a good recovery Helmut. I had an uncle that put it off for 20 years and when he had it done he wished he had done it 20 years before. Hope you have a short and painless recovery and will see you jogging in Chicago. Dennis

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Reporting back to duty. I have been in sick bay since 7/6/10 having a total hip replacement. Everything went well and recovery time is about 6 weeks. I will not be limping in Chicago.

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Charlie and Ken, I heard BP finally had the solution to stopping the oil flow............. They are going to put a wedding band on it, Then it will stop putting out ! Dennis

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I have no idea what happend to my Hannah news, our regular postman is pretty good but if a replacement steps in for him while he's on leave some things get put in the wrong box. If there is no one living in that apt at the time it won't get put back in the outgoing mail slot to be put into the right box or some newcomer may trash it.....Charlie

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Ken, I hope that thing dose work monday, It's not a real cap but a way of collecting most the oil coming out as I understand it. I had to snezze tonight and my nose started bleeding real bad and I plugged it up with pieces of paper towels, a little damage control, If it happens again I guess I will go to the Dr and get it documented as much as I hate going there. I left the plugs in for a about 30 mins and can breath like I have a 4 barrel carb, it's not like someone punched you in the snorkle.....Charlie

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charlie, dennis, i cannot bleive the miltary gave in to aticvace special intrestest groups. the military had a job to do world war 1 2 koreane and they did it. now we got a idoit that is saying. muslums or good . the pres. subprem justice. i know i still live in the best nation in the world. but it is getting bad. arrps has switch to pres. and still want donation for dues. they can go to muslums for membership.

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charlie, looks like they or saying they will cap oil well by monday sure hope so. they lie so much. are don't really know theirself. hope this does happens. dennis enjoyed your emails. really did like the country song. guess you have seened some bad stuff, being a firefrighter and paramedic. sounds like that ole heart did not stop you. be careful like charlie said. i am 70 charlie is 68 you are 69 in oct. we were all hatch about the same time ha. later ken.

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Dennis don't push it to hard. I haven't had any problems with my oil pump yet. I've left some parts all over the country, the VA dosen't fix them they just say you don't need that and cuts it off. I'll draw the line if it ever comes to my pink parts. Cujo and I take a nap evey time we eat so I don't have any normal hrs anymore. I wake up and can't sleep in the middle of the night.........Charlie

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Ken, I retired as a Firefighter/Paramedic from Colorado Springs Colorado and also 26 years in the Air Force Reserve as a Firefighter. I'll be 69 this October so my extinguisher don't work as good but I know the song by George Strait and love it. Just can't keep up with it anymore. Driving Seniors once in awhile is a good deal, I meet a lot of really neat people and feel good about helping them out when I can, someday some one will probably be helping me out the same way. It is called "Pay it forward" . Back in 2003 I had a heart attack and went into Cardiac Arrest, they jump started me after CPR, Then another one in 2004 but it was mild. I had a stint put in my aorta in 2000, slowly I am turning into a Bionic Man but just keep going and going. You never know when you might go so enjoy it and don't make too many enemies along the way, you may see them in the hereafter. Dennis

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dennis, i need what you got but by the time i got it would be a lot greyer and a little more not their. dennis been thinking our church has a deal for seniors for somebody to drive van. might see if i might be able to help out. dennis, are you a firefighter like george straight thats good later ken.

Name: Dennis Flynn
Email_Address: Dpflynn@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 58 through 62
Division_Squadron_Detachment: E and V-6 Flt Deck
Date: 08 Jul 2010
Time: 18:53

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Ken, I don't know how my Microsoft Office picks up the spelling on this site but it did it automatically. Charlie, I get most of those crazy emails from some of the Firefighters I used to work with and some from a couple of E division guys I worked with aboard ship. Been busy setting up a new computer, laying a patio out back, Fishing and today took a road trip along with 7 other guys down just South of Toledo Ohio to a old car museum. I also volunteer to drive seniors ( actually older than I am) to their Dr. appointments and stuff so I stay pretty busy most all the time. Go to bed around 11:30 PM and up around 6:30 AM. One of these days I'll learn to take afternoon naps. Take care and I'm sure Cujo will find someone that will take care of her. Dennis

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charlie, was reading some of the post i made last night, don't even make sence to me. still got problems with u-verse and att. i had got diff. output from about 8 tecks all are diff. last one told me i need new phones voice over pi. whatever that means. att. is coming mon. did you get hana news? maybe they took you of list, might be right behind you. later ken.

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BLUE WATER BATTLE

There is an excellent article in this month's issue of The Legion Magazine by Mr Olsen regarding Agent Orange exposure and VA benefits.

Contact your US Senators and Representatives NOW to get their support for pending legislation to restore our benefits from 2002, S-1939 & H-2254.

Link to article: www.legion.org/magazine/64773/blue-water-battle

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Ken, try Natural Lite, I don't like the taste of Keystone. I don't drink Natural Ice, it knocks my lights out. I like to stay in control of my 3 brain cells. I wonder how the Ships bell projects coming along?? I don't know what's going on in Dennis's life. I used to get my mourning emails of funny things from him and I would forward a lot to my friends. I have no idea where he comes up with them. I think I'll crash, I have a big firefight coming up in the kitchen in the AM cleaning up suppers mess....Charlie

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Ken, she go's #2 out on the patio, I don't have a fenced yard. sometimes she go's #1 on the rubber mat I have in front of the kitchen sinks. I think the smell of the rubber attracts her like a car tire to a male. I'm going to trash it tomarrow. she knows not to go on the carpet. This oilwell crap is getting way out of control with all this secret stuff going on with BP and the WhiteHouse, any time they want to hide something they put it under National Security and right their own rules.... Charlie

Name: ktenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksurweddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958- 1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 07 Jul 2010
Time: 17:58

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charlie, what are you doing do not understand about potty patck. that cujo has been that way ken, charlie, pete' dennis, i am very confuise. but keystone lt. does come into play. later not latte0r ken.

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Ken I got Cujo's potty patch today, I don't think she knows what it is. No mail......Charlie

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charlie, dennis, i think had to be a pin ball machine or something to do with his female. later ken.

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charlie, dennis, was sitting in garage drinking a keystone lt. one time about 22 years ago my boss and owner of co. came to me said ken i need something done. i was working on a c pull scraper. had 1 in. steel balls out of steering table. he told me to get them cut in half have 2 hollow out and put mecuri in them and weld them back together. i think i know what he was going to do with them. what do ya'll think? later ken.

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charlie, i am sure whoever get cujo she will be taken care of. they know she will let you know. when that time comes cujo will be ok. don't know about charlie. did you get your hana news letter? just been working in yard. uverse talk me into putting att line on phone with uverse. big mess lost 3 phones. trying to get it it back the way i had it. maybe tomorrow. later ken.

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Two more Life Members who will never have to pay dues again. #370, Robert Molleston, VB-6, 45 Member, Enllisted Crewman Hall of Fame, #371 Robert Garrity, lst Div, 62-65.

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Ken we write better than illeagl Mexicans anyway. Our green card is a Retired Military ID. I bet our almost Astro-Nut Pete is hot about or Pres wants to give the Muslums our high tec NASA info so they will like us better. It is hard for me to belive whats coming out of the White House.....Charlie

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Ken all I got today was a bill to renew my car ins. maybe tomarrow. Dennis I have office on my pc, how do you get it to work on here. I never use it. I have no idea how to get rid of all this junk I have accumulated when I go into the Naval Home, I guess move what I want over there and tell my Son,Grandson and Jenny to get what they want. CuJo's going to be my biggest problem, It's like who do I want to give my kid to. I don't know anyone I think is good enough for her......Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.@net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 06 Jul 2010
Time: 19:31

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dennis, you are so right i do spell like it sounds to me. my chief looks over my shoulder sometimes and start's laughing. have tryed spell ceck on email, still don't know what to do,they need just to correct it. then maybe i would be able to spell it. really hard to teach old dogs new tricks. did you get hana news letter? very well done. that last picture of JOHN FINN is something else. later not latter ken.

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Hey Ken, I see a big difference on your spelling. Thank God for spell check. I have Microsoft Office on my PC and in it it has Microsoft Word which does a spell check for me on just about everything including the Hancock Web Site. It saves my butt because I tend to spell something like it sounds. I wind up with a lot of stuff with the red underline. I hated English in school , I figured I can talk so people can understand, why do I need this crap, just show me how to fix machines and I will be OK. Just like Larry the cable guy, "Got er done" Dennis

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charlie, did you get your hana news letter?. it is outstanding. later ken.

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pete, got your info and link. thank's that pby looks like an ac. built ontop of a big ole boat. i moved that link to my folder. have not read it all yet. glad this the home of the pby that your dad flew. this has got to be a big honor for mom and you. thank's again ken.

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Question, Were any of you that read this log, in VF-213, 1961-1964,if so , did you know Airman Henry Vega, in 63, he was a third class P O. Cheers, Mack

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Ken, I keep those jalapeno poppers in my frezzer all the time. I'm addicted to them......Charlie

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well- charlie, after making baby back ribs and jalapeno poppers. little rough today. chief goes to work at 6:00 am. got lawn mower edger weed eater leaf blower on back patio.need to get this load gone. was good when i was doing it on fourth of july. if you play must pay. later ken. let me know that you are ok. sure you are. chief got my spelling on later straighten out have a good night.

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Darn Wayne I missed that one. I must have been sleeping...Charlie

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Sorry that it's belated but Happy 4th of July to everyone of the Hancock family! Hey Charlie! I watched an old John Wayne, WWII picture called "On the Wings of Eagles" a few days ago and saw a list of carriers on a board, that listed all of the Essex class carriers (including the Hancock) available at that time. My wife can't seem to understand why I get excited about such things. Anyway, it was a pretty good movie.

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Helmut, Good to have seen you and talked with at the reunion. I saw Amanda this morning on Good MorningAmerica. My great great Grand mother was on GMA a few years ago, well sorta,she was on a book written about pioneer women of New Mexico and the Author was asking anyone to ID the women in the photo. The 5 women were all mid wives and I have that original photo. Good luck to Amanda and I hope it will turn into more than 15 minutes of fame. Phil;

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My wife's niece, Amanda Grabowski, was on Good Morning America this morning. Amanda is an emergency room nurse at Mass General Hospital. She will be featured in three episodes of Boston Med on ABC. We are all so proud of her. Being level-headed, she is taking her 15 minutes of fame in stride.

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Congratulations to the following new Life Members who will never have to worry about paying dues again: #360 Alan Bondurant, VA 212, 64-66, #361Chester Korszoloski, lst, 44-45, #362 Donald Shoemaker, N, 60-62, #363 FTGC Ronald Elliot, F, 63-65, #364 Oliver Zullo, MarDet, 44-45

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Shipmates, Happy 4th!....Am at our vacation home at the south end of Newfound Lake in Bristol,NH watching dualing personal fireworks displays west/east side. Off to The PBY dedication next Saturday. Leaving for SEA on Wednesday...Will report back after the mission is accomplished!Pete

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charlie, can't go wrong with John Wayne, Johnny Cash or John Deere. latter ken

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Ken, They won't let us BB-Q on our little patio, fire regulations. I've been eating sleeping and watching John Wayne movies on TV. Some of this medication I take makes me slugish, I'm going to see if I can get off of some. I think it is my pain pills but they really help. Dennis and a lot of other shipmates have been pretty quiet for a while. I don't know why Waye Shrader hasn't come aboard, I'll have to call him again but he told me he can't get on his computer much his Grandkids keep it tied up. I don't know it the mail runs tomarrow, I might get my Hannsh news....Charlie

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stefanic, read the link from pete and phil. that is when the war was bad. you have a good night. ken.

Name: kennneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958- 1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 04 Jul 2010
Time: 16:28

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pete, phil. ya'll did get that straighten out i did not know so will leave it alone. i do not know. latter ken.

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Ok, new laptop...correct info above. Email is petecole@earthlink.net. Happy 4th of July shipmates. Pete

Name: Pete Cole
Email_Address: petecole@eaerthlink.net
Association_Member: .
Years_Aboard: 1973-1975
Division_Squadron_Detachment: VA-212
Date: 04 Jul 2010
Time: 16:05

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Stefanie, "The Black Diamonds" were VA-216. Here is a link to a history of the squadron: http://a4skyhawk.org/3e/va216/va216.htm. You can also contact the webmaster of Skyhawk Association for more info and to put out an inquiry to the A-4 community.Also, Helmut, looks like the time you were with the Black Diamonds. Did you know Brennon Ray Barber. Stefanie, please feel free to contact me if I can be of anymore help. Pete

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Ken, the Black Diamonds were VA 216 and they flew A-4 Skyhawks

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: .
Years_Aboard: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 04 Jul 2010
Time: 15:38

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stefanie. i have never heard of a div. called black diamonds but you have a good night ken.

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charlie, dennis, what are you doing. i am burning meat on pit but enjoying it . ya'll and everyone have a good day.

Name: Brennon Ray Barber
Email_Address: ImTrying2BGood@aol.com
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1960-1964
Division_Squadron_Detachment: Black Diamonds
Date: 04 Jul 2010
Time: 12:45

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I am the daughter of Brennon Ray Barber, (Stefanie), and am looking for information about him. He passed away in May of 2001 and due to an inconvenience I was unable to get access to his Naval book or pictures that would mean the world to me. Or even just some old stories, which he always loved to tell. If anyone has any information, please contact me. Thank you and GOD bless!

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Wishing everyone a Glorious Fourth of July. It is important to remember why we are still able to celebrate today. Thanks to all who served and are now serving. My thoughts are with you all.

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Our local newspaper has a copy of our Declaration of Independence in it today, also, a copy of, Patrick Henry's speach, Will it be Freedom or Slavery, and Benjamin Franklin's speach, The Public Good, Above All Else. Excellent reading always. Today I raised a glass to salute, Those WHO SERVE AND THOSE WHO HAVE SERVED. Take good care. Mack

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Outback has good food, The one here blew away,so did Olive Garden and Red lobster. Everything was building back slowly but surely with higher building codes and the Coast is looking good and then along came this oil thing and investors are holding back because tourism is way down....Charlie

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charlie, glad to see you are still kicking. took cheif to outback today for lunch. kids gave me a 50.00 dollar card for father's day. order a 22 ounce beer and chicken fried stake with double french fires. it was good. that oil deal is not doing good. anyway glad to see you are ok. latter. ken.

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XO I will probley get it Tues. Mail is shut down over the holiday, I'm looking fwd to it. Ken, My son came by this AM for a while and then CuJo and I went to Win-Dixie, I found me a blueberry pie, chesse cake, Breadpudding, and ice cream, it was cold in there and we left shivering. I got my belly full and we took our nap. I'm in my skives with a cold beer now. I did some yacking with my FB friends. Toni's doing great. this is a big weekend for a lot of people to visit and BB-Q...Charlie

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charlie, the XO and i are trying to comuacate with you are you drunk in your skives. give us a shout. latter. ken.

Name: Tom Wimberly
Email_Address: twimbo@aol.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1970-72
Division_Squadron_Detachment: XO of the ship
Date: 03 Jul 2010
Time: 13:52

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Charlie, my Hanna News arrived yesterday or the day before. You probably have yours by now. It is a spectacular issue. The coverage on John Finn is really excellent. Dan Colleran is really doing a great service for us. One thing in particular in this issue - the pictures seem much better than before. If there are readers of the Quarterdeck Log who are not Association members, let me tell you you are missing a great newsletter. Happy Fourth to everyone!

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charlie.in the san antonio express-news today. the navy says the USS san antonio has a lot of problems, do to inadequate-------workmanship. it is in norfolk va. unable to be deploy. engine problems with bunch of other problems thats what the union does. latter. ken. have a good 4 of july.

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This is 4th of July weekend, I bet a lot of people are making trips....Charlie

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XO when Toni was here she told me she might be back in a couple weeks, She wouldn't tell me why, that's unusal, I figure she has some kind of meeting with a big shot about this oil thing and can't let the cat out of the bag. she didn't know for sure, I think your TV station has something to do with it. I would hate to sit across the table from her drilling me. she knows the flag words people use to excape the question and she won't turn it loose until she gets a direct answer....Charlie

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Old Salt I ain't got my Hannah news yet, has my membership expired, I don't know when it's up? XO Toni is on face book, we send a few things back and forth on it, she checks it most every day at work, I try not to bug her on the phone but if shes busy she will call me back. She would love to here from you and Gay, She thinks the world of you guys....Charlie

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dennis, you posted charles plumb artical. was just wondering is he still alive? that is one heck of a artical. latter ken.

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Dennis, we have had a nice soaking rain that we needed bad, it has been misting a few times today, I haven't been down to the beach I need to check it out tomarrow. I think there a lot of illegals came here to get that gov check. I think contractors brought them, I've seen more than usal at Wal-marts today, they cash thier checks but don't buy much......Charlie

Name: Dennis Flynn
Email_Address: dpflynn@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 58-62
Division_Squadron_Detachment: E Div & V-6
Date: 01 Jul 2010
Time: 20:21

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Ken, Charlie and Tom and all you guys living down there in the rain, Keep your powder dry and your chin above water, hope none of you guys have to abandon ship. Enjoy your 4th of July weekend and stay safe.. I just heard a guy on the radio say his wife was so fat, her birthday was January 4th., 5th. and 6th. That must be some woman. Good thing is she provides warmth in the winter and shade in the summer. Catch you later, Dennis

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charlie, you have a good night. will talk with you tomorow. latter ken.

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Ken, I haven't gotten my Hanna news yet, it could be in my mail box. I've had a long day and haven't checked it. I sit around in my skivies with a fridge full of beer all the time, Cujo heads for the patio doorevery time the phone rings thinking we are going to get company and I put my cutoffs on. my friends give me warning. I don't drink a lot of beer at one time, but almost every day. I don't leave my apt if I do....Charlie

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charlie, guess this is what we do to feel useful. but we are american not muselm. latter ken.

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Dennis, I went by the place that sold those Gator electric cars today, There about 8K for the "Ruff & Tough" with optional back seat at the rear that folds out like a little flat bed, and a deluxe rain enclosure, I skiped the CD player, it was custom built for $600 that you could shater glass with. I need to check with my credit union, ins co and cost to register it before I jump in... Charlie

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charlie, done drank about a six pack of 16 ounce of keystone light. so will be going to bed very shorty. would get none but it's their. latter ken.

Name: AT1 James Stacey
Email_Address: melross1@yahoo.com
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1967-1968?
Division_Squadron_Detachment: flight
Date: 01 Jul 2010
Time: 18:11

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My father ATN3 (at the time) James E. Stacey passed away on June 13, 2010. He served aboard the USS Hornet. I am looking for anyone who served with him and can help me locate information. He retired from the Navy in 1987.

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dennis, sorry was sitting out in garage his name is not john flynn its dennis flynn. you did post it people should read that artical you posted. so i came back in to get it straight. latter ken.

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charlie,got the hannah news just a minute ago. they did so right to put JOHN FINN. on front page wish i could had meant him . maybe in next life. is charles plum still alive ?. love the artical that john flynn posted about charles plum. two get heros. latter ken.

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charlie, been looking at weather today, looks like ya'll are getting rain. we are getting some in san antonio, but not a whole lot yet about a 1/2 in. but not complaining we needed it. looks like CC. is doing ok. when i worked for waukesha pearce they sent me to CC. can't remember hurricanes name but it was bad at CC. o well we got through it. i think it was in the sixties. latter ken.

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XO when Toni came buy some Marine Biologest was with her from her old college. he's recording the oil impact to Ms. Toni's X producer dumped her off on him because she needed her car, and Toni was afoot. I told her you just get dumped off on anyone that comes along, he didn't take it serious, but said he was going to be down here for a long time. I feel fortunate to have Toni as a close friend and I joke with her and talk candid...Charlie

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XO I got a note from Toni that she had to be out a 02:00 to cover it, It was going to be a long day. She wasn't feeling good when she visited me. I told her to slow down a little but that's like talking to a brick wall. She has covered a lot of huricanes, I told her a chicken got enough sense to get out of the rain that she may get slaped up side the head with a flying 2x4 some day and knock a little sense in you...Charlie

Name: Tom Wimberly
Email_Address: twimbo@aol.com
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1970-72
Division_Squadron_Detachment: Ship's Exec
Date: 01 Jul 2010
Time: 09:40

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Right, Charlie, Hurricane Alex was not much of a bother for Toni and me here in Corpus Christi. At my house we have gotten 2.4 inches of rain in the past 24 hours. Some areas of the county have gotten more; Toni was reporting this morning that a couple of county roads were closed due to flooding. Predictions had said we might get 5 to 8 inches in the Corpus Christi area; some areas may have gotten a lot more than I got. The USS Lexington Museum closed at 3 PM yesterday because of high water on North Beach; she's opening at noon today. Gay and I usually tune in Channel 10 for awhile every morning to check on Toni.

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Ken, the Naval Home will be fine, The news media blows a lot of things out of proportion to get people to watch it. Katrina was really bad, before her we had a little one called Isabell, It didn't even wash the bugs off the windshield of my van.Thee Naval Home landscaping may get set back a few days because of the rain we are getting but putting the finishing touchs on the interior will go on...Charlie

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Ken: no apologies are needed for spelling, I'm sure you have seen some of those exercises where words are spelled with letters all mixed up and they are still readable. The brain is smarter than we think. Either way we need to vote out incumbent politicians, We have more than our share of those YAHOOS in California. I am making it a point to campaign against them. Phil

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div.aft. eng. rm.
Date: 30 Jun 2010
Time: 19:02

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charlie, do you think everything is ok for your retirement home. hope so. you are smart enought to know. latter ken.

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Ken, don't worry about Toni and the XO, they will be fine, this storm ain't no big deal, heck they sent Toni to Galveston from here to cover Gustav, she said it tore the Island up, I have a DVD about Katrina from our TV Station. Toni was there and it tore the roof off and they had to evacuate to the basement, and use emergency equipment to stay on line. I don't know what good it did no one had had any power to watch them........Charlie

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charlie,dennis, got to many post tonight. that's the way it is i think you are american good people latter. ken.

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dennis, read your coment again, we better get it right for america in nov. are we or screwed. latter ken.

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dennis, read your coment again, we better get it right for america in nov. are we or screwed. latter ken.

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charlie, let me know if toni at cc. gets through this the hell with XO. guess fishing is not to good down their right now.latter ken.

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Dennis, I agree with you, if we don't make a change in Nov we are in deep trouble, I was watching that Rep from Ill on TV. He's as gay as they come...Charlie

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Ken, don't worry about the spelling. This isn't a spelling bee. I wish I could find me a large letter key board, I dought if it would help my spelling much. It's been many yrs since I've been in school, Toni has a Masters in Journalism, she can smoke those keys you would grab a fire exingusher, she has typos but has an editor to clean them up. She has to do it herself on her own stuff, She has written a book but hasn't sent it to a publiser yet....Charlie

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dennis, you are so right. we better wake up in nov. but how do we know that fhe people we vote for are going to do what they say. guess you are doing what you think. for this country. if they are not need revolution. are we can forget it for our kids-grandkids-great grankids cannot believe this has happen to this USA. latter. ken.

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dennis, charlie, my spelling was off phil. i am a person that types like he thinks. i know i should be better. don't think i will ever be. but you are right phil. charlie, you are right the damage has been done. latter. ken

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Ken, we have been getting some much needer soakers here. To me we need our rivers flowing as much as possible to push against the incoming tides. Those buch of fair weather Sailors out there messing around called for a shutdown because of Alex. There wasn't nothing to it. The whole thing is a farce. I have no idea why they have hundreds of people out there picking up tar ball on the beach, whats the use theres going to be more tomarrow. wait until theres enough an use machinery to do it. I see our Prez finaly let some skimmers in from other countrys that know what they are doing but is picking and chooseing. Tx is the one getting the bad weather....Charlie

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Ken, You asked Charlie about a Supreme Judge, some of the answers look like they took your spelling as it was and thought it was sub-prime which would refer to a loan. The Pres can select supreme court judges but the have to be OK'd by the congress and senate. It all boils dow to the fact we need to pay attention to who we vote for. Many people vote a straight party line which means they vote for any idiot that party puts up. You may be a Democrat or Republican but if who ever you vote for does not do what you want them to, then you are stuck. Please ........everyone take a look at all the candidates and see if they are doing what you want them to do and vote accordingly regardless of what party, it is the only way we will ever get our voices heard is to weed out all the deadwood and fancy talkers that just do what they want once in office and not listen to the people that put them in the first place. Dennis

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charlie, ole alex is going to give us some needed rain. the XO and toni are on a toss up how bad it is going to get at cc. see where miss. is getting some storms also. been watching vidio on internet. things are sure moving around down their. latter ken.

Name: Ralph Irish
Email_Address: w8roi@wowway.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1959-1961
Division_Squadron_Detachment: OR Division
Date: 30 Jun 2010
Time: 13:25

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Some members of the Association were given either ball point pens or T-shirts by students from Creston Middle School, Creston, Ohio, while on tours at the reunion last month. I wrote a thank you letter last week, to the Principal of the school and got a nice reply this afternoon, via e-mail. There is a write up on page 3 of the June 2010 issue of Hannah News, with a little more information. I urge all Association members who received a pen or shirt to write a Thank You note to the school or principal.

Their Social Studies teacher organized the trip, and from what I saw, the students were all VERY well behaved and a real credit to their school and district.

For those members who have been 'on the fence' about attending our reunions, it is these little surprises that can make the trip worthwhile. You just never know when something nice like this will occur.

I welcome comments from others who received these little 'surprises' on any of the tours.

Ralph Irish

Name: keenan martin
Email_Address: keenan.w. martin@gmail.com
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: visitor
Division_Squadron_Detachment: known
Date: 30 Jun 2010
Time: 11:29

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had a miss print on a date. My dad reenlisted aboard CVA19 on May 1968 not 1960. again looking for anyone that may have worked with BT-1 Gerald (Jerry) Martin.

Name: Keenan Martin son of BT1 Gerald (Jerry) Martin
Email_Address: keenan.w.martin@gmail.com
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1960?-1972
Division_Squadron_Detachment: unknwn
Date: 30 Jun 2010
Time: 11:14

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My father (ret) BT-1 Gerald (Jerry)L. Martin, passed away in 2006. I would like to have his name added to the rollcall of fallen shipmates.

I do not know when my dad was first assigined to the USS Handcock. I know he reenlisted in May 1960 while while servering aboard her until he ret in 1972.

I am looking for anyone that may have known or had worked with my dad(Jerry).

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Ken I have no idea about our President, I think the Capital is running around like rats on a sinking ship. I have never seen a President try to do so much on Exective order but our next Pres can resened them by order. Pray for Nov, with his funds cut off he is helpless...Charlie

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Phil, they started chargeing me $4 a mo. for not useing it and $30 for not paying the $4 buy the time I got word from them I owed close to $300. I called them up and told them to send someone by I would whip his butt for working for crooks like you. They didn't bug me anymore, I think Bush passed some kind of law to prevent them from doing this as I read later....Charlie

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Phill, It's been that way as far back as I can remember, when you didn't need any money they would bug you to barrow some at a low rate. when you needed it the rates went up. I belive credit cards lead to a lot of peoples problems. I had a lot of problems with Capital One after Katrina, I had no mail for about 6 mos as the post office was trying to locate us....Charlie

Name: Phil Torres
Email_Address: phil.torres
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1965-1968
Division_Squadron_Detachment: E Div IC Gang
Date: 29 Jun 2010
Time: 20:16

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Ken Sub prime loans are a type of loan offered above prime rate to individuals who don't qualify for prime rates and offered at a higher interest rate which also means more interest paid over the life of the loan, sometimes not very long before the loan goes into default. all of these controlled by lenders and the world bank and other greety people, judges come afterwards.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958- 1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 29 Jun 2010
Time: 16:36

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charlie, or anyone, tell me is the subprime judge just put their by president or do we have some say. the one that is their does not belong their. people like that will take this country down, like president, all them idoits running it. have a good night, need to wait to see if i get black hawk over my house. latter ken.

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I've just been kicking back Ken, This storm may push more oil on our beachs, the barrier islands have and North wind have been on our side for a long time, the leak will probly spew until aug. our bad storms are in aug and sept. It may rain oil in a lot of states. I think the Gulf Stream will be carrying a lot of it to the east coast. you will here a lot of people screaming then....Charlie

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charlie, are you ok. don't see much posting. glad toni came by to see a old fort like you. but she knows who is ok. had to get going today to get back in line with yard, tomatoe plants. did get it done to a ave. what do you think about storm coming, could be bad for gulf of mexico. bp is at half it's worth. this could do it. but they got lawwers and obama on their side. i guess the american people will get screwed one more time latter ken.

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Toni just came by to visit, She keeps getting prettier. She flys back to CC at 14:30 tomarrow and said she might stop by again in the AM if possible. I kind of dought it. She has so many friends here she can't see them all when she visits. I feel good that she thinks enough about me that she to make a point about stoping by. She says there is a high possiblity she will be back through in two weeks. I think she's glad to get back to work to rest. Some kind young marine biologist seafood inspector brought her by , I told him hes out of a job inspecting seafood here but he said they will be studing the impact... Charlie

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charlie, just got back from port aransas. read your comment. glad you got everything done with va. while me and my family was on beach at port A meant a retired 1st. class airdale. he was on a lot of diff. aircraft carriers but like the midway the best. he was a little younger then us at 47. had a good time with him. bs and beer.latter ken.

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Toni just called me, she will be by this afternoon. Jenny gave me some anti-biotics for my tooth Sat and all the pain and swelling is gone, they are actualy stronger than I need but saved me a bunch of money going to the dentist especialy on a weekend. I hate a nagging tooth acke, It looks like the ships crew is out on liberty this weekend.....Charlie

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Pete, that was a very interesting artical you sent me. Whidbey Island was always of interest to me. I would always pull over on the bridge at Deception Point, and watch the tide come in or out. It rushed in or out like nothing I have ever seen before, my wife was afraid of hights and was born and raised there. It is a well manicured island. I'm proud your Father has an everlasting monument there...Charlie

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Wayne (Old Salt) thanks for the link, Shrader lives in Mansfield Ga, I got to have a long talk with him. He's doing good and told me about some of the other 02N2 people. I ask him to come aboard our site and to get the Hanna guys he knows to do it also. He left the Hanna about 6 mos after me. You wouldn't belive some of our capers ashore. Thanks Wayne.....Charlie

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Shipmates: The Cat is back at Whidbey! A PBY my father flew in the Aleutians during WWII was successfully transported from the Skagit County Airport to NAS Whidey, its final resting place, by heavy-lift helo today. The dedication of the a/c as a static display at the PBY Memorial Museum is 10 July. My Mother will be the guest of honor.Heading out for that!Pete

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XO, I think thats great, I have no idea why the site is double printing my post, but if I don't shut it down directly after putting the pass word in it dose that. I had to answer the phone..Charlie

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Micah, go to AFRH.gov on the net. I don't know all about him but there are contact phone numbers there. Being a WWII vet in combat in dire need if you have copys of his 214's he should be able to get a room in an instant in DC, The phone # is 1-800-422-9988 He will have to go to DC. He will have a mess hall, medical care and what he needs......Charlie

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The San Diego Union Tribune carried on Wednesday June 23 a story telling that local political figures have joined together and signed a letter to the Secretary of the Navy requesting that a ship be named for John Finn. Several of the old-timers in the Association have been writing such letters for years. Maybe now that John is gone, there is a better chance that the request will be approved.

Name: micah crelia
Email_Address: mrifleman@vtc.net
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 44-45
Division_Squadron_Detachment: USS HANCCK
Date: 25 Jun 2010
Time: 07:43

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hello, our grandpa bill booth was on uss hancock during world war 2 he was blown off side april 7th he needs the navys or shipmates help! you see he has have his home taken away from him with out due or any courts is there any vets organzations to help him?

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I think I have located Elmo Wayne Shrader that was my best buddy when aboard the Hanna woking 02N2 with me, I googled him and they want me to join a thing to get info. He is in Conyers Ga, age 68 if someone has the abilitys to find out more info. If not I'll call info on the phone next week. I would like to bring him aboard here if its him.......Charlie

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I got an E-mail from Pete, He is busy with getting his Fathers PBY that he flew back when the Japs envaded Alaska moved to NAS Whidby Island to be a monument. I liked Whidby when I went there to visit, It was a trip, It's a beautiful Island, Cold bad weather yr around, high standards, Most I met could speak German but that was my wifes family bloodline. They thought I was a little wierd being from the South but the feeling was mutual. You have to be tough to live on the Island just to handle the weather. The people are realy great though, It cost a lot to live there. I never saw any run down areas. They have the Islanders and the newcomers. but I'm talking yrs ago....Charlie

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Ken, I think your talking about Port Aransas, I've been there a couple times yrs ago, it was a fun place. It was a snap at the VA this AM, I was in and out within an hr. I explained my problem to the lady and she was trying to put me on the long track, I told her I wanted to see Patient Affairs, She took my 19 question papers to her boss and her boss told me to wait a couple mins she got on the phone and I was on my way to Ocupational Theropy and a little cutie was expecting me and ask me to put my hans over my head, turn around and dance a little jig and she just passed me and signed the papers, 30 min later they were in the post office on their way to DC registerd. ...Charlie

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charlie, my cheif and i with daughter and her family are going to port A today will give you a shout when we get back on sunday. to see if va. got it done for you. latter ken

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Ken, I have left a message with patient affairs to call me but I hope I can get it resolved tomarrow AM before I have to go that far. I have to get it done pronto. I wish Toni was with me, She gets things done, she dosen't take no for an answer and knows what questions and buttons to push, they just want to get me out of there. My tooth woke me up. I took an extra pain pill I don't sapose to a few a little while ago and my tooth ack is letting up. They are non-narcotic but my Dr dosen't want me to use them unless need them, I needed it. I like him, It's people droping the ball I don't like. He's new to the VA and learning how it works....Charlie

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Ken,on top of that I have a bad tooth ach. I'm not in a good mood, the VA when I call they won't let me talk to the ones I need. They take a message and tell me they will send them a message and they will call me back by a certain time but never do get called back. I call again and get someone else and they will tell me it's not on the computer and the same thing has happened over and over since Monday. All I need is X's in a box's for 19 questions that they will ask me the answer anyway and a signature. I'm usely pretty easy going until I get pushed into fix bayonets...Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958- 1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 23 Jun 2010
Time: 15:52

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charlie, sorry to here about your problem with va, seems like they sould know whats got to get done. it is because a gril or guy is their drawing their paycheck. and is not going to give one ounce more. hope they get it done. before they give you a heart attack. i order parts from sears. they got so mess up they are going to give me a heart attach. just people that don't give a damn. latter ken

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I.m haveing a mess with this VA again, DC sent a portion of my physical back that should have been signed off by a Physical Therapsist instead of my Dr. I have been given the run-around since Monday AM trying to get an appointment. The Nurse said if they haven't called me by 15:00 to call her back and we would get Patient Affairs involved.....Charlie

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Charlie, Maybe a 1st. class couldn't behave himself. Back in the late 70's when I was a E7, I had my wife with me on vacation, we went through Bremington Washington and I told her "Now I can finally go to the Chief's Club" Turned out that it was open to the public by then, you didn't even have to be in the service to get in. What a crock after waiting all those years. It is nice to use Military base lodging when on a trip, It is very clean, very reasonable but space available for about 1/3rd of what a motel would cost, Glad I stuck around. Dennis

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Dennis, I was watching more about the way he was trying to hold back his tears, I never could figure out why a S'Sgt could go into a Marine Saff NCO club and a Navy 1st class couldn't. A Chief could or an Army S'Sgt could....Charlie

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Pete, I got the history channels 4 dvd set of the universe, there are several chapters on each one. I watched the 1st one,"Sex in Space" Gosh I had no idea things would be so complicated. It is tabo with NASA so they are learning from the Brits and Russians. NASA is going to have to come up with something for this 3 yr trip to Mars planed for 20-20. you would like the set.....Charlie

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Ken, the Marine in the short video is a Staff Sgt. or E-6 (Same as a Navy 1st. Class PO) the hash marks in the Marines stand for 4 years each same as the Navy so he has at least 12 years in the service. I am not sure but I think there are some Nam ribbons on his uniform so he may even be wearing his old uniform just to show he really cares about his lost or fallen comrades. Dennis

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charlie, glad to here that xo is ok never know if they are too good for us. have a good night. ken

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Ken, I wish I could have went to the reunion and met the XO, Him and his wife sure helped Toni out when she landed in CC, they took Toni to eat and then to her apt and showed her where she worked. I think they talked a lot on the phone before she flew there. She called the XO a few times and he was out of pocket and he called her and finaly they got it straight. Toni thinks the word of him and wife, Toni's like a humming bird, very active.....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958- 1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm
Date: 22 Jun 2010
Time: 18:43

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charlie, you know our xo better then i do. i am sure to get it done we did need appitace, firemam, 3 rd 2nd first clase cheif, and beyond. thats. military. why do we have queers in the system. ken.

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Ken, this site used to be more orderly and I used to get a few shot fired across my bow, I fired a few back. Gordon thought they were going to make us walk the plank. the XO and I think it was Old Salt, not for sure, finaly gave up. I have learnd a lot about the Hanna here. but I used to check day after day and She was sitting dead in the water. Dennis, Pete, Jim and a lot of others got in conversations about there experiances it's great....Charlie

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Ken, your wrong about that. We have the XO,we just don't have any strips for him to bust, he can't put us on restriction or toss us in the brig. We can be juvinile delinquents here. He dosen't ever post, you have to get him riled up. He reads what's going on here every day, I don't think this used to be the jabber site.....Charlie

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charlie, you are right about brain to come aboard. their are no xo's on this trip. just people that did their job. ken.

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Brian, come on aboard......Charlie

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dennis, the marine standing at sulute and attension, the stripes on his shoulder is too what in navy? ken.

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dennis, their is no way i could have stood at attention for 3 hrs like that marine did. thats what makes the military a special person. by the way got that lincon welder going, all i got to do is put her back on pull trailer. man comimg to pick her up at 9:30 or 10:00 tomorrow. i am 70 don,t want to see it again. latter ken

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I have a cusin that sent me this u-tube link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gfnmDGk0KM&feature=related It shows a lone Marine standing in the center of the street at attention saluting as the Rolling Thunder went past in Washington DC. He stood there holding that salute for three hours until they had all passed. Take a minute and watch the emotion in his face as he stands there. Then read the short paragraph . The reason his head is bowed while saluting is to pay tribute to all the fallen comrades he has. Go Marines, you make us proud. Could any of you stand there at attention for 3 hours like this with the emotions he must have felt ? Dennis

Name: Brian Crane
Email_Address: brcr@earthlink.net
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1960-1962
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V-3 Division
Date: 22 Jun 2010
Time: 12:38

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Anyone home? E-mail brcr@earthlink.net

Name: Brian
Email_Address: Crane
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1960-1962
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V-3 Division
Date: 22 Jun 2010
Time: 12:36

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Anyone home? E-mail brcr@earthlink.net

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Dennis, by the way I ask a Gunney that lives in my apts if the oath the Military uses to swear in is the same, he said so far it is. Our country is going to implode under its use of drugs smuggled in across the border. Every State it eats up a large portion of it's budget to throw them in the slammer. Ours is busting at the seams because the Feds won't take the illegals.....Charlie

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Dennis, what bothers me is who is appointed to the Supreme Court, they are there for life. We can't even have the 10 Commandments on Public property. Read the differance between the Confederate Constitution and ours. It it allmost Identical except They took Thomas Jefferson Serious went he wrote that States Rights could be taken away by the Feds. In theirs each State ruled itself in a Confederation. States Rights is what started the Civil War, not slavery, the south was selling cotton to England for a larger price than the north would pay. The north had all the war ships and blocked the shipments.....Charlie

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Just food for thought......... Check and see who the largest oil corporation contributor to Obama's campaign was and also which one had the largest contribution for any oil company so far in history and then you will see why it took so long for him to get on their case about the oil spill. Dosen't take a rocket scientist to figure who is buttering his bread and why he has been so quiet. Come election time regardless which party you vote for, keep in mind NOTHING was done while these clowns were bickering over the health bill for how many months ? and please look at all their track records, do they vote the way you want them like they are paid to do. Then make your choice. Dennis

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charlie, before i go to bed, got to say this. obama's health plan sucks. the people that where on gov. assitance already had it. now the people that had to pay all these years have pick up more low life. so we will pay for people that screw all night and sleep all day. and still get food stamps and all the other give aways for no goods. better go to bed before i go get one of them. have a good night ken

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Ken, I usaly just get to spend an hr or 2 with Toni. She get's VIP rooms at the casinos that that dosen't cost her a nickel along with free chow, and drinks. A lot of her friends meet her there or at the BoneFish a seafood and lounge right down the road across from the beach. She ask about CuJo all the time......Charlie

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charlie, why don't we vote for a old yeller dog at lease he has instinck about what's going on. our politicans don't. glad you and cujo are ok. tell toni hi and hope everything goes the best for her. ken

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charlie, you are right about quality control. who knows if he an't paid off. it's something that the american people better wake up to, our gov. has not. and we are paying taxes for them idoits to take care of it. and the word gov. means by the people for the peorle. thats why our ancesters came over here to start a new honest country. but greed and power took over after years. so here we are in one big mess. ken

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Ken, I'm doing good, I have to shut my mouth sometimes to let other Shipmates bring up food for thought for us share. I had a house full over Fathers day, I was glad to see the door hit them in the butt. At least they cleaned up their mess, Toni let me know for sure she will see me this weekend. I wouldn't bruise that butt for nothing, thats USDA Choice T-bone. I forgot to tell Gordon I'll wear that Royal Navy hat anywhere.....Charlie

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Gordon it was in US waters and should have had a US Quality control inspector aboard. I'm sure it gave a wakeup call to. This is something that won't go away over night. It wasn't even flying the Brit flag. Obama is really upseting the Brits, Israel and us, he won't close our borders....Charlie

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Hey Gordon, welcome back, I've been wondering about you for a long time. Gordon we aren't upset with the Brits, we are upset with BP taking shortcuts drilling a test well so deeptaking chances they couldn't reverse. It is a Industry that will will also hurt Britons economy as much as ours. Don't listen to Obama and his bunch in DC they just start pointing fingers......Charlie

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charlie, are you ok? you are not responding. you said something about toni coming to see you maybe you are busy taking her to see her freinds. anyway let us know that you and cujo are ok. ken

Name: gordon pritchett
Email_Address: gordonprtchtt@yahoo.com
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: ex royal navy
Division_Squadron_Detachment: visitor
Date: 21 Jun 2010
Time: 12:45

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hi there charlie and log regulars have to report to the captains table for my absence from the log, have been having big problems with my computer but now sorted, also charlie the wife and i have been visiting family down southfor a few weeks,anyway i hope that you are in fine fettle and cujo is still mad, glad to know that you wear the baseball cap mind you i would think that the brits are not flavour of the month round your way charlie being a seafaring nation the people over here rearly feel for the local people and the terrible effect on the fishing industry we all pray that they get it sorted more quickly, its been taking me a while to read the backlog on the hannah log but i am getting there still getting brilliant jokes from dennis by the way, nice tto read that you are still the log master charlie keep it up mate yours aye gordon

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charlie, i look at link for oil well. looks like something went wrong. don't know but if you still got link look at it. latter ken.

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charlie. dennis, wayne, phil,jake, henry and david, that made be have a good laught. saddam deserved what they got. hope all of you and yours had a good day latter. ken.

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I wish all of you FATHERS have a good day tomorrow. Cheers, Mack

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div.aft. eng. rm.
Date: 19 Jun 2010
Time: 11:50

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dennis. charlie. got oil leak fixed on kholer. the cover for cam gear was bent and warp. guess when eng.broke rod and camshaft.must have hit cover with cam gear. need to put welder back on eng. dennis will take gov. out of play. see how long it will last. ha bet not long. latter ken

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Dennis, In Paris Tx the big deal in school was us boys to rebuild old tractors. one of the favorites was the old Poping Johny's 2 cycle. I had an old Farmall with the steel lug wheels, Dad would have to haul it on a trailer to the fair where we would show them off. You sure didn't want to put it on the road because the spikes punch holes in it. Dad loved it, in the winter when his other tractor would cut rut's or get stuck that thing was unstopable.You had to use a hand crank to start it. He used it for yrs after I went into the Navy....Charlie

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Ken,, Last fall I sold a 1931 Model A Ford that I had taken down to a bare frame and rebuilt the entire car including the wood. Had never done a Model A engine but after I got it all back together and mounted in the chassis I found a gasket that went between the bell housing and the engine. It was all that sealed the rear of the camshaft, It all had to come back out and apart just for that one gasket. Hope your Kholer dosen't have a big take apart issue as I am sure you will be glad to be done with it. Dennis

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charlie, you are right about lotto, but if you don't have #s you cannot win. by your's and dennis coments i can see what ya'll did for the USA. hope the one elected can remember this is american nation not muselem. got kholer back togeather did start it had a oil leak at cam gear cover. will try to see whats going on in morning have a good night. latter ken.

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Ken, when I lived in Tx I bought enough of those lotto tickets to wallpaper my house. They said proceeds would go into the school fund. It did, they just subtracted that amount that they funded schools from the State budget. If you did hit it by the time they take Fed and State tax out of it you will end up with 1/4 of what they say you will win. same thing with casinos here if you hit over 1K...Charlie

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Dennis, 3 times is a lot. If your hit in the transmition or tail rotor you are in bad shape or anywhere the rotor hits something. Pilots learn to"Crash" them at Ft Rucker Ala. They shut the engine off and point it noise down to pick up air speed in autorotation and just before they hit the deck they pull the nose up. you hit hard. They have a seat to sit in, It knocked the wind out of me in the back.....Charlie

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Dennis, the AF supply in Sigon received most of our clothing supplys, they sold a lot of it on the black market and it ended up on the markets on Tu-do street. it was the main street, We only landed there twice for maintance field machanics couldn't handle. Our Pilot bitched about the bug splater on his windshield witch was a bullet hole. those Airframe Mechanics were good and fast. They would pull my OD duck tape off and patch them all up at the same time. The skin is honey comb and we don't fly at speeds fixed wings did so all I had to do was keep it from catching air and could rip a chunk out. The deck and ribs were solid, you could pull all the skin off it and it would still fly. I think all they did was cut a circle out and had honeycomb plugs the same size made and pluged them glued in with special glue....Charlie

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Charlie, You made me remember a good friend of mine that was also a door Gunner in Nam, Got shot down three times, retired as a E8 with 22 yearsand mostly in one piece. He spent 4 tours in Nam and was one crazy SOB. Just before he retired they put him TDY with a supply squadron, (Big mistake on the Army's part) he was like old Sgt. Bilco. A comshaw artist, He got into the GSA catalog and had the Army ship lots of stuff right to his house by the case. The guy had brass balls. As far as I know he never got caught and went home up in Maine next to the Canadian border. Dennis

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charlie,at least you got rid of boat. but picked up a other deal. you stayed alive in nam. so the luck is on your side . go buy a mega bucks. going to give you numbers then we can split it 2-4-6-15-40-42 hope we win. going to hit hay. latter ken

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Ken, the answer of me catching shrimp is no, that crazy yankiee woman from Widby Island that lived in Paris Tx came down and made me marry her and dragged my butt back to Paris Tx a couple weeks before season, I went to the Boat and told Joe I was going to have to sell it, I fiqured up how much I had in it. and before sundown he took him a sponser out to sea in it. The next AM I had a check, Joe was the Captain, Carol and I left the next day after a late night on the boat with Joe and a woman, Carol and I went back to my rented house boat....Charlie

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charlie, do not know anything about gps. but all my buddies used it . i would haft to have a lot of cold beer to have fun on that trip. my 1 cousin has a 1850 oliver in line six. hey we did the trans. rear end engine was a perkins in sand under oak tree. we got it done about 7 years ago still ok. did ya'll cetch any thing that smelt like fish on your boating deal.latter ken.

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Ken, I had a small Gps on it that every so often would put a way point in. wind and current can put you in a place you don't think you are. we took it on a lot of shake down cruises, That means cold beer, stars,drum of the engine and a couple gals. If that GPS had quit we I would have no idea there we were at. We were out far enough you couldn't see the Biloxi light house. I had a onboard compass so all I would have to do was head north until I saw lights. This never happend though our trips did good, I let the gals drive as the water was slick that time of year. I would log out with the CG on channel 16 an the marine band on departure. that engine would run forever on it's 60 gal aluminum semi truck alum fuel tank. I put algee killer additives in it. I had filters on everything to protect that diesl engine....Charlie

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charlie, 1/3 1/3 1/3 is being very honest. have seen them boards did not know. at 70 am still learing. keep this thing going with everyone that really gives a damn because it makes a difference. ken.

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charlie, 1/3 1/3 1/3 is being very honest. have seen them boards did not know. at 70 am still learing. keep this thing going with everyone that really gives a damn because it makes a difference. ken.

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Ken, my shrim