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Quarterdeck Log Entries

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958- 1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 13 Oct 2010
Time: 17:02

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Charlie. glad to see you are their.give a update every once in a while how's it is going. sure you will.

Name: Charlie Ridens
Email_Address: Valhalla1@cableone.net
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1960-1964
Division_Squadron_Detachment: A Division
Date: 13 Oct 2010
Time: 12:13

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Phil, checking in is a slow process, I've been sleeping at home, I still have box's to move out there. I've orderd that c-phone and now people tell me you have to be by a window to use them, the place is built like a bunker. I forgot to sign out with security today but I have until 010:00 tomarrow to tell them I'm still alive, I've got a Drs check-up at 011:00 anyway so I hope I don't forget to, you have to push a button in your bathroom between 05:00 & 010:00 to let them know your alive....Charlie

Name: Phil Torres
Email_Address: phil.torres@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1965-1968
Division_Squadron_Detachment: E Div IC Gang
Date: 13 Oct 2010
Time: 10:28

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Charlie: Glad to hear that you are finally moved in, now comes the hard part, finding where all of your stuff is. As for the West Coast, you are right all of the medical potheads are consumed with prop19 and the majority of the candidates running for office are not much better. All I can say is lets vote the Yayhoos out and get some new people in and see if they do any better. Mike and David I second that motion, why did't they change thing before running for their 3rd and 4th career terms. I appears that California , Oregon and Washington are running neck to neck in competition for first place in the liberalism is a mental disorder prize. Don't forget Nov 2, let's take the trash out for recycling and hope the trash dosen't come back. Phil

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David, Mike, that whole left Coast is eat up with this Pot thing, you can't expect them to think good. we're the dumb rednecks down here for tossing there butts in jail. kids that are raised around it think it's OK and it spreads like a cancer. I fell asleep after supper as I always do and here I'm awake in the middle of the night, I've got to hit it boots on the ground again tomarrow. I've got to get off mid-watch's.....Charlie

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I got my room at the Naval Home, it is beautiful, my balcony has a great view of the Gulf and swimming pool. I still have a lot of checking in and moving to do, I ordered me a "Jitter Bug" c-phone today, It has big keys and simple to use, Ideal older people. Old Salt, I'll get the info to you when I get settled in.....Charlie

Name: Mike Brown
Email_Address: mikealanbrown@gmail.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 68/69
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V1 Crash Locker
Date: 12 Oct 2010
Time: 10:32

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David, i know which numbskull you are talking about.I agree that he and a lot of the rest should be sent packing,but this state(oregon) is beyond liberal....uphill climb for sure

Name: David Byrum
Email_Address: dtbyrum@gmail.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1961-1964
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V-4 Div
Date: 12 Oct 2010
Time: 10:14

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I usually don't make political comments, but I am also sick of campaign rhetoric. We have a fool here in Oregon that is trying to get re-elected for the 3rd or 4th time, he says he wants to "change things". Why didn't he "change things" the last 3 terms!

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Every time I start to go to the head something comes up, my MC Son called, I had lost contact with him for a while, He's been off on a hunting trip for 10 days. He go's to Montana or Utah. his wife stays with her family in Coos Bay Or. I was about to give CuJo away now they are going to have a service pick her up at my door and fly her? I've never heard of that before. I will see. maybe UPS? My 3 brain cells are not used to all this activity coming so fast....Charlie

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I wondered what happened to you Pete. I'm addicted to this computer. I'm addicted to Face Book and never get anything done jabbering. A lot are from my home town in Paris TX and locals. I've recruited a couple locals to help me move with it. I've got 7 hrs to do my shave and shower and try to get some sleep before I get up, dressed and get ready to report aboard the Naval Home. All the Jabbering is easy. It's getting down to boots on the ground. It is going to be hectic for a little but this is when you find out who your friends are....Charlie

Name: Pete Cole
Email_Address: petecole@earthlink.net
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1973-1975
Division_Squadron_Detachment: VA-212
Date: 11 Oct 2010
Time: 19:53

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Hey guys, just got home from our lake place in New Hampshire Cold and windy up there. The trip was longer because of the leaf peepers on I 93. Had to come down the back roads for 3 hours (normal 1.5). Too the point. Well, I submitted my request for an absentee ballot to the town hall here in Lawrence, MA last Friday. Good news is it was in the mail when I got home today. Bad news is, there are TWO envelopes. Too tired to open....Hope that was a mistake, but who would take that as a chance to vote twice???????NOT ME! I will call. Pete

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12 hrs and I'll be at the AFRH Re-enlisting. It seams like forever since Katrina, 5yrs. My Son has just shown me a coupe Super Bowl XXX1 (1996) watches he's leaveing with me. Green Bay, when Farve played. They are not expensive but NFL and have serial # . He has broken every record there is....Charlie

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To me the Home Land Security Act. DOJ, the Supreme Court and appointed Federal Judges are doing us in. We the People put the idiots in Congress. They had the money to pay the news media. We used to rule the worlds economy. we are 3rd rate now, I remember when you could double your money if you had a green back $ overseas, that's why they started paying us in MPC...Charlie

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Dennis: Don't forget the Judges that cancel what the people voted for, California is a perfect example of that. I also agree, not to listen to politician BS on tv, read their record before casting your vote. We have a Candidate for Governor that has spent $140+ million on a job that pays $200K/year. If it was me and I had $140 mil, I woud keep it in my pocket, the bank or invested, not in the political arena. I won't run for any political office as I wouldn't make it as I have a tendency to tell people that talk crap all the time where to get off. Phil

Name: Dennis Flynn
Email_Address: dpflynn@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 58 through 62
Division_Squadron_Detachment: E and V-6 Flt Deck
Date: 11 Oct 2010
Time: 06:29

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Charlie, Why should they send absentee ballots out, Just like Chicago and Detroit, they have enough votes with dead people by registering names off the obits and double voting they don't need the voice of real Americans to get their vote. Besides when is the last time the politicians really listened to the people that elected them ? I think every one regardless of their affiliation needs to get off their butts this November and start being heard. And please, please look at your candidates record and not the BS they flood the TV with as most of it is all taken out of context to make someone look good or bad on the ads. Let's start booting out the dead wood on both sides of the fence and get some honest (what a laugh) politicians in for a change. Dennis

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New York hasn't sent absentee ballots to our Deployed Military. I'm worried about this election....Charlie

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Happy 10/10/10 day. this month has 5 Fridays,Saturdays and Sundays in it. It only happens once in every 823 yrs. I don't think I'll be able to attend the next one. Larry Sea bag drags are getting tougher but when it gets to tough for everyone else it's just right for a Ridens. my phone number should stay the same. I've been watching Football and then a friend from the Marine Patrol stopped by, He's going with me when I check in Tues. He's going to help me move. He's been having female problems with a jealous GF. He starts Law Enforcement training in Jan. He just need to talk and get things out of his system that if he tells someone else might get around. He's solid as they come....Charlie

Name: larry knafel
Email_Address: lmknafel@embarqmail.com
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 61-63
Division_Squadron_Detachment: A3 division
Date: 10 Oct 2010
Time: 14:25

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charlie i hope your move goes smoth if your phone changes let me know ok. we had our navy club squadron meeting this morning it went very well. did they tell the phone would not change. have you tried to find navyclub? talk later ok

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Larry I've onley been in the Engineering Office a couple times and the Division Office not much more unless I had a reason to go. I don't remember the people in them names. I had a really good Chief named Attwood that took care of affairs concerning them....Charlie

Name: larry knafel
Email_Address: lmknafel@embarqmail.com
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 61-63
Division_Squadron_Detachment: a3 division
Date: 10 Oct 2010
Time: 04:35

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charlie talked to mike barnes yesterday he was in eng office he is in s.c. now. doyou remember him? he came aborded in 63 as i was leaving .the reason i know him he was a grade behind me at school in columbia city in

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Ken this packing is a pain, I've been running everything I can though the dishwasher to get the dust off. It's a waiting game until Tuesday then is when it hit's the fan and things have to get done until it's over. Everything will fall in place once I get an address and start on a priority list. It will be great to get there. I know what you mean, my savings is not worth near what it was when I put it in there. I made a smart choice when I went into the Naval Home in 03.....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 09 Oct 2010
Time: 16:20

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Charlie, you have got it coming. this economy is getting bad. and its been coming drown the tube for a long time. i know you will be in a better place in the RMH. hope the people that run it in furture can get it back to a good USA. have luck on your move. ken.

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Ken, I haven't been on a vacation in yrs, the cost of this apt and bills are killing me. I won't need as large of nest egg once I get moved. moveing isn't cheap. I'm sure going to try to make it to Branson. It's still in the future. I will be pulling an E-3 Liberty in Branson myself. I'm thinking 3 days for me...Charlie

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I got me a remote control Jeep today. I crashed it into CuJo when she wasn't looking, she dosen't like it now, I've been packing a little at a time, I'm afraid I'm going to pack to much stuff up, after I get my keys and scope the place out it's going to be hectic for a little while moving...Charlie

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Old Salt I will let you know, changing everything is a mess, 6 more days. I've been packing things and wish the day would get here and get it done, It's a lot bigger than the old one but doesn't hold anymore residents. I will be lost there for a week. I need to see If I can get the Communicator sent to you, you might want to put contact information in the Hanna news, You don't have to be Retired Military, just a Enlisted Vet. It's a perfect retirement center, medical, dental, galley, private rooms, swimming pool bowling ally and craft shops. Theres one in DC also. They have a point system for priority to get in, Ribbons and all that, rank has no bearing. you don't have to be in combat....Charlie

Name: Wayne Erven, Life Member #2, Membership Chairman
Email_Address: oldsalt2@comcast.net
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1965-1968
Division_Squadron_Detachment: Ops Office
Date: 06 Oct 2010
Time: 16:49

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Hey Charlie, please don't forget to let me know the new mailing address when you move. Phone number also if you change that. Need to keep the roster up to date, and will put it in the next Hannah Newsletter. Hope all goes well with the move.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm
Date: 06 Oct 2010
Time: 16:10

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Charlie' looks like you got it going your way. chief retired mon. been looking at true # don't think branson is in picture. we can survive but lot of trimming. think going to called old co. tomorrow to see if they got the work. so i can go back part time. ken

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I never knew Hudson made a pick-up, there's a 47 down here from Irvine Ky in the paper. we have cruising the coast going on. the original engine was a super 6, he's got a 350 in it. It said it was called a "Brawny"...Charlie

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I read where 82 or 150 old residents of the Naval Home have arrived, their statements pretty well reflects mine about DC. most are 20 yrs older than me, I think most able bodied fled DC like I did, one says he hated every second he was there. 5 yrs is a lot of seconds. I couldn't handle but was young and strong enough to bail out. I'm looking fwd to checking in at 0:800 Oct 12, I have no idea how many of my generation will be back? a pretty gal of about 50 said she would help me for a couple days, I old her to just open the boxs, hang the pictures and stuff things whee you think the need to go because I will be bringing more until you say stop, Women know how to do that kind of thing. I'll find out later where she put it, but I'l be on even keel when when I get is crap done...Charlie

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Pete the yr I retired I went to Belize for a yr, It was called British Honduras. I had bought a plastic sextant, I watched the VHS and studied the book and did the figures, I never could hit the same spot on dry ground. not enough precision to that plastic thing. I did a pretty job with a compass an dead reckoning, I sailed from one end of Belize to the other, that was quite simple because of all the keys, I went through a cut in the barrier reef heading for Honduras in SA. out in open sea I had to gesstimate drift I'll be darn if I didn't hit Puerto Cortez where I was heading for. I knew South America was to big to miss but some countrys get upset without a visa..Charlie

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David if it was an old prop-job it dose seem like a lifetime, It took me a week to get to Nam in Old Shaky, I told the wrong designation. it was a C-124, the Pilot shut off one engine because of to much vibration. I thought we were going to die before we ever got to Nam, it turnd out good though, we landed in Angeles City PI and he told me to be back in 3 days, AF lives good, they had to pull the engine and weld a broke engine basket....Charlie

Name: David Byrum
Email_Address: dtbyrum@gmail.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1961-1964
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V-4 Div
Date: 05 Oct 2010
Time: 11:10

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I flew out of Tachikawa in Nov 64, spent a lifetime in 24 hours going back to the states, I thought I was in a C154. Am I remembering wrong?

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Pete I've always had problems with "Gizmos" , Jim it sounds like you had some experiance MATS, We took a nose dive landing in that old clunker to keep runway Charlie (no kin) from shooting at us, AF Pilots are trainded good. I think our Jet Jockys are much better, I've never flown in a Navy AC that I can think of...Charlie

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Why would anyone worry about the automatic trans in their truck quiting if you could just hit a lever and drive in in manual tran, how are you going to know where your going with no headlights, Korea shot down a satellite to show us they could do it, we shot one down from a ship just to show them, If they shoot them all down I'm not going to be able to watch football....Charlie

Name: TOM BORING
Email_Address: Texastom95@aol.com
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1968-1970
Division_Squadron_Detachment: S-6 DIVISION
Date: 04 Oct 2010
Time: 22:08

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When I got into the air transportation business around 1970 MATS had changed to MAC. The Navy was out of business as far as hauling people/cargo to and from overseas. TOM

Name: Wayne Durfey
Email_Address: waynedurfey@yahoo.com
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1971-1974
Division_Squadron_Detachment: M div.
Date: 04 Oct 2010
Time: 21:55

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The drone with the jihadists on board... Would it be cricket to fly it into Mecca? Maybe on Ramadan? You know, just to make a point. I may have gone too far...Never mind.

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I was the MATCO at Norton Air Force Base. I was Navy working for the Army on an Air Force Base Base. We first loaded "Guppies" which were replaced by C-141s and C-5s. Direct support to Danang. Lots of activity from the Marines out in the California desert desert. The Air Force people couldn't believe how much I knew about a/c . Thanks to AN (P) school at Norman, OK TOM

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Speaking of ECM and jamming does anyone remember "SHOEHORN" back in the Vietnam days?

TOM

Name: Jim Spurlock
Email_Address: cwo4nav@aol.com
Association_Member: .
Years_Aboard: 1962 and 68/69
Division_Squadron_Detachment: VA212
Date: 04 Oct 2010
Time: 20:01

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About MATS; I was in a MATS squardron VR-7 Det A in Tachikawa Japan 64/65/66/67. It was a strange duty station. Squadron had about 150 sailors and we were flying Air Force C121 aircraft. The old Super Connies. Navy called them R7Vs. It was an Air Force base and we flew medical air evac flights mostly out ov Viet Nam and some out of Korea. It was pretty good duty except for the Viet Nam In Country time but I'm glad I was a part ot helping to get some of our wounded troops out of there.

Name: Pete Cole
Email_Address: pcole@earthlink.net
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1973-1975
Division_Squadron_Detachment: VA-212
Date: 04 Oct 2010
Time: 19:01

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Ok, maybe not totally in the conversation, but my latest bitch about Strike Weapons School these days. Grumble...Like the idea of a drone (maybe old 727s) need more space. How about the "Last Jihad Airline" to take them on their quest...the 7 whatevers. Flown by guys in Texas!

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Guys, do not worry about jamming. I am sure there are countermeasures (as long as the gizmos work). I was refering to a conversation with the previous Strike Fighter Weapons School Adm (at Hook a year ago and at a Boston Club meeting he spoke at the year before, us old guys can bitch). The question in open forum was, "Are they teaching iron (real) bombing when the great gizmos fail (on their own)." He was an A-7 guy and understood....but no real answer...like to stump the Admirals :) Pete

Name: Charlie Ridems
Email_Address: Vahalla1@cable one.net
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1960-1964
Division_Squadron_Detachment: A Division
Date: 04 Oct 2010
Time: 18:20

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I'm on my new self contained computer in the monitor. I am writeing this on someone else. it will pick up anything unsecure and I don't think it would take much to crack a code and jamm things....Charlie

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Name: Phil Torres
Email_Address: phil.torres@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: .
Years_Aboard: 1965-1968
Division_Squadron_Detachment: E Div IC Gang
Date: 04 Oct 2010
Time: 14:31

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Dennis; I'll buy the predator payload of insurgents with destination unknown and that can be Mid any Ocean as long as it is deep water. That payload can include the Gitmo insurgents. Phil

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I woulD imagine that along with all the new gizmos they have in a/c they must also have ECM gear to take care of any outside attempts to jam. TOM

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Dennis and Charlie... I think Charlie has it right about our electronics being vulnerable to jamming. That would meen that you would still have to have a onboard back up person to take over in that event. Today, with all of the video games and the obvious hand to eye co-ordination, my nephew, Chad, would be a perfect choice!

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Pete you know one heck of a lot more about flying than I do. I've never been in Hot Rod AC like you flew, You can't replace Pilots, If Satellites and frequencies are jammed the on board computers are useless without a guidance system. To me I think this will be part of modern warfare, Our Tec avantage is very vunerable to it...Charlie

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I need a Navigator to drive threw New Orleans to tell where to turn off, I'm to busy dodging jet jockeys on c-phones breaking the sound barrier to watch signs. They have GPS for cars but if your watching it how are you going to watch what the people around you are doing in the dog fight to take their space. I'm sure Pilots take Navigation in school but other priorities....Charlie

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Wayne, How about a 300 passenger Predator with a payload full of insurgents, Destination Unknown but somewhere mid-Atlantic ???? Dennis

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Pete... That point you made about the auto-pilot on the new planes. It got me to thinking about the airlines. How tough do you think it would be to enlarge a Predator drone to carry 300 passengers instead of a payload of weapons?

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Charlie, back in our day...the autopilot would maintain course and altitude. So, if you we dronning along at 120 kts with a 20 kt crosswind, you would be blown all over the earth after a few boring hours. That is why you needed navigators on the ole planes to do star shots etc. Never learned (but was suppose too) since I was a "Go-Fast" guy with a 1.5 hour you know what. We had TACAN ref etc. We could not get toooo lost, but sometimes did. Always survived. Now days, I hear the blasted airplane can take itself off and land at the destination. The piloteee is just backup for the ***computer. What if it fails and the kids they have sitting in the cockpit twisting the dials, have no clue????Scarry thought the next time you fly commercial. Gets me thinking every time when I think the Capt has not shaved yet! Pete

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Pete, I rode in the cockpit with the most of the time, the Navigator was showing me about the Loran, he had his pencil out doing some figuring and said something is wrong, he put a sextant to a thing in the top of the AC and told the Pilot we were 200 miles off course and gave him new headings. I don't know how Auto-Pilot works but it's not fool proof. they could trim tabs as they called them. I'm not sure what they were but it had something to do with the way it flew. the thing wouldn't fly but a couple hundred MPH...Charlie

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Pete my 1st experience with MATS was in a C-123, that thing was junk, They folded the rotors of our chopper up and loaded it. I had to ride with it to Saigon from CC. We made it to Travis, every place we landed I had new Pilots, We made it to Hawii, I thought the Pilots were coming back, I slept aboard it. after 8 hrs I went to the tower and ask what happen to them, and gave them the tail #. they told me I didn't have a Pilot. There was an AF Pilot standing next to me and told the guy that's a heck of a note, an Army buck Sgt has an A/C and I can't get one, I told him he could have mine but he might not like where its going. He took it thow and told me he would be out in abought an hr that he was going to get his Co-pilot and Navigator. we had to land at every little island in the Pacific to get something fixed. I think it was for them to hit the "O club" we did have to refuel though. they took turns sleeping in the cockpit....Charlie

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Henry, I salute your son for carrying on the Navy tradition. I know you are very proud, as am I. Please pass on my best wishes for "Fair Winds and Following Seas." I am sure he will have a fine career wherever life takes him. I would like pics of the bell...not to open the flood gate :) Pete

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Just musing about Charlie's comment about MATS or MAC later...the big transports. There is a sea story out on the net about an F-16 jock and a C-130 (well I call it a sea story). Short version: the F-16 hot shot flies wing on the C-130 and says, see whath I can do. Several octaflugarons later he joins up again. The C-130 guy says...see what I can do! 10 minutes later of straight and level flight the jet jock asks what was that? The C-130 guy says, well I got up, took a walk to the galley, had a cup of coffee, and went to the (AF) head. Go do that in your go-fast machine! Paraphrased and not for atribution...Pete

Name: Henry A. McCormick
Email_Address: henry.mccormick82@gmail.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1961-1964
Division_Squadron_Detachment: B-Div. #4&1Fireroom's
Date: 02 Oct 2010
Time: 13:12

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Today, my son and I rode over to N O B, Norfolk,VA., to the NX, he needed a white hat. While there, we found our Ships Bell, in front of that command building. The Bell really looked great, well worn of course. We took some pictures and I rang it softly a few times, Great Sounds. Great Memories. Mack

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Ken the movie thing is called deadly persuasion. It's about her and her life as Journalist and gets pretty deep into Politicians she has met and reported about but edited out. Ms and Federal. She was an intern in DC once and all the crooked things that go on. She has about 2/3 done with good backing. She was done wrong once and that's the wrong thing to do with Toni. I'll see her again in a coupe weeks. I told her I'll be in the Naval Home and ask her if she had a press pass. her face lit up and said she never thought to ask them for one...Charlie

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Toni came by about 0:830, She had been jogging and in her Short's with no make-up, I told her about me telling guys on the site about her. We went to the bank to get a couple papers notarized, the lady didn't recognize her. they lady had a box of candy suckers showing Toni which ones she liked and gave her some, I ask her do you know Toni the news reporter, she said I've never met her, I told her you have now. She will be the talk of the bank today, people recognize her when she's dressed up, she's still beautiful but with her hair in a pony tail and causal they don't expect it, the lady's eyes got big....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958- 1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m. div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 01 Oct 2010
Time: 14:53

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Charlie, heck they got you their and ready. sure that is a load off your mind. tell toni hi from ken's chief and ken. let me know the name of her book if this is what's going down. later ken.

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Darn I'm talking to myself on this site again but I got a phone call from AFRH asking me to confirm I will be there 08:00 Oct 12. she said they were going to make the process simple a possible and would show me my choice of available rooms and give me a key. things happen in rapid fire, Toni just called me and I should see her tomarrow, she said she had something big coming up but couldn't tell me about it. I know what it is, She has sold her book she wrote about her life to a movie producer, anyway she said it was bigger than I could imagine,she told me to hang on to the thing of hers that she has left here that they could be worth money. She will get to NO tonight and only have 40 hrs here in MS. she can time things to every min. I've tried to keep up with her activities but gave up....Charlie

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Flying around I always felt safer on MATS, Military Air Transportation Service than Civilian. The Air force was pretty good. It was raw Military A/C with seats in it. the 141 is the one I rode in the most, It was an experience for the wife when we went to Germany, No frills and box lunches that an Airedale passed out that had sandwiches and pineapple juice. the Pilot went to the head and dependent's looked at him like who's flying this thing. I think Auto-Pilot and the Navigator did most of the work after they get them off them off the ground...Charlie

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Ken his Wife was ET/3 and he was BT/2 when he met her, when her time was up, she got a Gov job at Fallon or what ever they call that bombing range Pete and the Pilots practiced at. she issued Ordinance from the bunkers. She's VP of a Jr College now. They have been going through some kind of accreditation inspection is why she's been busy....Charlie

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Ken he's been MC for quite a while. He didn't want to go the Command MC route because they could send him anywhere. he started out as a FNBT in the fireroom, they converted BTs to MMs. He's a MMCPO where he could stay with the fleet, He didn't like the Regan and went to LPD-5 the Ogden, about the oldest Oil burner left in the Navy...Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 4958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 30 Sep 2010
Time: 18:17

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Charlie, your son must be a chip off the old block. to make MC in that time. sounds like he carry on the duty after you did yours. Wayne Erven. can not believe that you are so deadecative to our log. thanks. ken

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NEW UPDATED COMPLETE ROSTER AVAILABLE. I will be taking it to the printer in a couple of days. Should have back same day. This will be the last one with all the EXPIRED 2010 names in it.

I put all changes to the Roster in the Hanna News. You can keep them separately if you want, or, do it the easy way and just ask me...IF you are a current member, I will do the research in the data base for you. (via e-mail ONLY) Not a member? Sorry, only have so much time to devote to Membership. For $20.00 for two years, it is the best deal on the internet!

You can order one by sending me a check for $5.00 to cover printing, and postage.

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Ken, thanks for reminding me, It's my oldest sons Birthday today so I just called him. 47 yrs old, His Skippers an X-Pilot that is getting deep draft certification on his ship. The Skipper lives aboard it and has all kinds of meetings and Being Engineering MCPO has to attend them all. I could see where that would be a pain. I told him to have his wife get off her duff and get CuJo airlifted...Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddinsbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 29 Sep 2010
Time: 17:58

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Charlie, as i said before i should had been 3rd class think i would have stead but that's the way it goes. it was better system then we got for this country. it's getting to when you move. did you send cujo to calf. yet?. later ken

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I had a long talk with Larry today, We coverd a lot of topics about the Hanna and other things. He has a 62 Cruise book. It has some mistakes in it, The crews list has me as FA, I had to have been 3rd that yr to make 2nd in 63, I gave a PN $10 to enter in my record I was eligible for FN when I reported aboard and he hinted I could do in 60. Once FN I had to hit the 3 and 2 manual...Charlie

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LIFE MEMBERS 443 and 444 are now on board: #443 William DeAngelis, V-2 Div, 44-45, #444 Stanley Leventhal, S-6 Div, 57-61.

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Larry my number is 228-385-8335, I would welcome your call. I don't have a set schedule. Sometimes I sleep with DVD's playing and the phone has to ring a while before I wake up and get to it. I remember the name Carlson but may be thinking of the wrong one. He was short with dark hair. I have your number wrote down....Charlie

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i donot remember,iwas in steam heat & cats stavig was 2nd class incharge. john carlson was there to. iwould like to talk to you.my ph no is 260 2443867 or give me yours ok

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Larry I see you were in A-3 Division. I was in 02N2 do you have any idea what I was in? I think A-2. I worked for BT-1 Mills, where did you work? I bet we crossed paths, I remember your name but can't put a face with it. we pulled 8 hr watches with regular duties and got farmed out to the refers. They were short handed, I think I was 3rd class. I got to rob the refers...Charlie

Name: larry t knafel
Email_Address: lmknafel@embarqmail.com
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 61-63
Division_Squadron_Detachment: a-3division
Date: 28 Sep 2010
Time: 09:49

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had agood time aborad her ,does anybody rember a 1 class bt miles

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Toni just stopped by, It surprised the heck out of me. She was with a Corporate Pilot. the picture looked like some kind of Lear Jet, he said they had some Navy Pilots, they landed in Mobile and She told me not to get it spread around. I don't know what shes up to. some kind of top secret mission. darn she looked good in her sun dress. I would think had something to do with her TV station...Charlie

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I watched a declassified #69 movie from the atomic energy commission flick, It started with the MK-3 bomb and went up the chain, very interesting, It covered a lot of things, it showed a MK-12 and told about it and it being loaded aboard a Carrier in about our yrs, It was in a square container loaded with a crane. It said Weapons Division had trained people qualified test and make settings, the one's in it were 2nd class. It looked kinda like the one I saw. we sure were under paid....Charlie

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Bob Adams, Mike Verville was up here in Michigan for a US Army presentation Saturday in Grand Rapids. He drove up from Georgia and possibly headed back this morning (Sunday) so I would not expect and answer to any email till at least Wednesday. Thanks to him 16 of us attended the US Army presentation "Spirit of America" and it was fantastic It is put on by Active members of the US Army and the Army Band, Drill Team and Drum and Fife corps. A great 2 1/2 hour show and a tribute to all the branches of the armed forces. Thanks again Mike.

Name: Bob Adams
Email_Address: skywarrior72ds.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1963-1965
Division_Squadron_Detachment: ops-Ass't Air Inter
Date: 26 Sep 2010
Time: 17:42

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Thanks, Tim. When I find my copy of the Hanna I will take the necessary action. ( I remember getting the News but have recently misplaced it... Bob

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That was the duty the Army gave me when when I left Vietnam, I thought Germany would be great, I got out and went into the BS. there was a Marine training us on Laws telling us where to hit Tanks we were in bleachers, I told him he was crazy to take that little pop gun after a tank, I might try it out on a school bus. we just fired them at targets. they give the Bs 106 recoilless. My team out shot the Marines at Pendleton. I kew how to bore scope them and just didn't let my crew shoot it because they put it there. It has a 50 cal tracer you push the plunger and you see where it's hiting and jerk it back hard for the live rnd to go down range, we were fireing at dead tanks out there for practice. ...Charlie

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I don't know about the new tanks Ken, ours were governed at 32mph with a range of 300 mile, Dennis might tune it up and make it 60 miles, Mine was an M-60A-1 It an opposed cylinder continental multi fuel supercharged engine in it. 13 quick disconnects and the M-88 could change engines in no time flat, The M-88 was aluminum with wider tracks and and powerful hydralics and boom. It was unarmed but a workhorse...Charlie

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Most Tanks in that war didn't have a chance against the aircraft. they were old T-34s, Theres not many places to hide a Tank in the dessert. being in Armored Divisions and going through Tanker School a Tow missile or Aircraft can give you a bad day, I was trained on the 106 recoilless. that was a bad dude if you could hit it in the rear and knock the engine out. Don't knock a track off you've got some POd Tankers and they are going to expend some rnds on you. We didn't have a Zippo in my squadron. they are the ones that have big sparkplugs in the barrels that squirt Napam out...Charlie

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I was sitting in an M-60 tank on the 5K zone in the Fulda Gap, East German tanks would lock in on us like we did them. It was just who pulled the trigger 1st. most of them were T-34s but some I think were T-62's T-34s were no problem, engineers had us holes to back into where nothing but the turret stuck out, that was the most venerable part, other than the tracks and the Stern where the engine was. The old M-48s weren't near the Tank. our loaded round had a long titanium snout on it with a double instantly explosive charge behind it....Charlie

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Charlie... Didn't know you were in the six day war! I heard that the Egyptian tanks were all 6 speeds. One forward and five in reverse.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 25 Sep 2010
Time: 17:23

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Charlie, you never stop amazing me. you have seen some stuff. glad you made it throught your duties. where you in dessert storm war? my brother-in-law was in tanks at that time. when he was here visiting i ask him if he knew about cryto. he knew what that meant right off the bat. later ken

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I swore I would never watch the news again, I have and things just get worst. They are going to jack Israel not much longer. I'm not Jewish but sit in a Tank on priority alert during the 6 day war n the 5K zone, I got a cryto clearance before it happened. I had to report in ever hr. I had a book to send codes in at a certain time that I had no idea what I was saying but all is cool, or it's not. It was a pain in the butt. I would just get to sleep and some one would wake me and say we're getting a message, I was in the lead Tank in the squadron of 5. They would tell me a certain page and line to go to. It wasn't radio operators you could joke with...Charlie

Name: Tim Mullen
Email_Address: timcathy_mul@hotmail.com
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 64-66
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V-2AG
Date: 25 Sep 2010
Time: 08:21

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Bob Adams, In your last issue of Hannah News, second page, there is Mike Verville's email address. Contact him. He may be able to help you out with your desire to get a copy of the 63 cruisebook.

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Bob I wish I had bought them the yrs I was aboard. I didn't ever remember taken a picture until a Shipmate sent me a copy. It may have been in 63 because I was 2nd class. My wife didn't let me have much liberty money. thank God for time at sea. those dudes are expensive If you can find them on e-bay....Charlie

Name: Bob Adams
Email_Address: skywarrior72@tds.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1963-1965
Division_Squadron_Detachment: Ops-Ass't Air Intel
Date: 24 Sep 2010
Time: 20:16

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I am looking for anyone who has a 63 Hanna Cruise Book that they would be willing to send to me so I can copy the 'important' parts. I some how either lost or lent my cruise book and cannot find it anywhere. I would be willing to pay for the shipping charges both ways. Would like to copy pics of Capt Brassfield and others from that cruise..will take extremely good care of the book.contact me at skywarrior72@tds.net . Bob Adams

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Ken In the Seabees I just had to go down to the Federal Building with orders and ID card, after I retired one cost me $14. Internationl drivers license $3 at AAA. Pete that was a good flick about Carrier life....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcgloval.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng rm.
Date: 24 Sep 2010
Time: 19:00

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cannot believe this my chief and i went to post office to get our passports book. we have did the forms. they took the pictures of us. 300.00 $ for us to prove that we are american. but they are letting illegall in with no problem. it is screwed up. ken

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm
Date: 24 Sep 2010
Time: 17:38

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Charlie, don't know what it is about women. but i think they or sitting on it.and they know it. later ken

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Darn women, I don't care how fast you jog you can't stay ahead of them. Jenny an X girlfriend called me. She is dating a pest control guy that worked at for the old Naval Home that knows me. I remember his name. They are going to a dinner with the new Civilian employees tonight and stop by, Jenny is a great gal but I lived on my houseboat and tried to push that marriage thing on me. we are still best of friends, She's has to much baggage with a problem son...Charlie

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Tom I heard later that the Mule tripped a claymore off in the concertina wire on a fire base and they tried to get one from Hawaii, there was one mule and the guy wouldn't sell it. I don't know what happened after that. a Mule will bite the hell out of you. They are smart and if trained are great, a quarter horse is high spirited and loves competition in my experience and likes people. They adjust to how one person rides them and tolerate others and people don't know what exactly the small bridle movements mean. they use larger tuggs to get response...Charlie

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Charlie, You talking about that mule not wanting to go up the gangplank reminds me of a quarter horse we had in Bandera,TX. We only lived about 7 miles from the race track so if one of the horses got sore we would load it up and take it home for a while. Had one that was just like the mule when trying to load him into the trailer. No net and crane though. TOM

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Dennis you may have a point, you can't ride them hard and put them up wet, you have to walk them through a cool down, Tom, I'm getting myself in over my head here because of my horse, the 1st Cav's mule had more sense than us. she wouldn't walk up the gang plank to go to Nam on a jeep carrier. She had to be loaded with a cargo net and crane. there is no way you can pull a mule up a gang plank. they had more sense than to try to push her from the business end. She would have filled sick bay....Charlie

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Charlie, Maybe gals are a lot like horses. I had a gal in San Francisco when I was much younger her feet would slip if I rode her too fast also. Never tried brushing her with a curry comb though ! Dennis

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Dennis I never rubbed a horses rump? I've brushed Buck's with a curry comb when shedding winter coat, Gals you better know what your doing when when you rub,pat or pinch it, they can get irate. I've never seen buck kick anything but dogs if I roded him to town. our dogs knew not to nip at his heals. It's a wonder he hadn't killed a couple. He didn't like the cars and asphalt in town anyway and was spooky. His hoofs would slip around corners if I rode him very fast...Charlie

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THREE MORE LIFE MEMBERS JOIN THE CREW; #440 CMC Marvin White, V-6 Div, 64-66, #441 James Zaum, 5th Div, 62-65, #442 William Kurtzbein, V-1, 61-64. We still have lots of Life Membership ID Cards available...get yours now.

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I got my Life Membership card today, Thanks Tom. Dez who is a reporter for The Vicksburg Post said she was going to save her pennies. It looks like I'm going to be there if I'm in a body bag. time can change things, they are both single but not availibe....Charlie

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Charlie, Being a city boy, my first experience with horses was helping my Dad on his milk route. He drove a horse drawn milk wagon in downtown Detroit back in the early 50's. The first thing he taught me was when walking behind a horse run your hand over their rump before going around them so they would not spook and kick you across the barn. I have tried that with several gals over the years and had bad results. I guess there is a big difference between gals and horses. Even though they weigh a lot less they still have a good kick to them. Dennis

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I had a Quarter Horse as a teen, He was a bucksin, gelding, very smart and fast, he was trained as a Ropeing Horse, He steped on my toe once putting the saddle on him, I was a fast learner about where to put my feet, He didn't know he was on my toe and I punched him in the side to get him off. I never used a bit with him, a hacamore, The only Spur on the place was one Dad had made into a hood ornament for his pickup, Actualy it was Dads horse but I clamed it. He didn't ride him much....Charlie

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Charlie, Bandera Downs was a horse track. Ran Thoroughbreds and Quarter Horses. Closed somewhere about 1994 when they opened the one in San Antonio. My brother was an owner/trainer so I got to spend a lot of time on the back side. Learned a lot about something other than the Navy.

TOM

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Tom is Bandera downs a race track, I'm not familiar with San Antone, I've been there they Army hospital when my cousin was sent there from Nam and yrs before with the wife to see the Alamo, but mostly just tying to get threw it to Corpus....Charlie

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Ken if the Chief says 90 % I feel you'll be there. I've got a couple more variables to deal with before making reservations, I definitely want to go, I'm more excited over this one than the one in DC, I wouldn't go back to DC if you paid me. I was stuck there for 8 mos...Charlie

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KEN. I lived not to far from where you live. Up in the hill country, Bandera. Really liked it until they closed Bandera Downs. TOM

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft.eng. rm.
Date: 22 Sep 2010
Time: 17:25

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Charlie, time will tell. hope you can get to mini reunion. with the ones i hope to talk with and meet in person. That would be something else. the chief is for it so that is 90% of battle. getting close for your move. know it will go great. later ken.

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FLIFGTS TO BRANSON There are several direct flights into the new Branson airport. Like all air travel you just have to check. I have some info that I will include in the December NEWSLETTER.

TOM

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Toni said she was going to get me put on the payroll as her social director:) she said she would try her best to come to the mini reunion that it sounds like fun. I will have have to get things coordinated with her and Dez if both of them can make it together. Toni can make things happen if she get's her mind set.We have a direct flight from here to Branson...Charlie

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Tom It's not every woman that will leave to jump into a den of Sailors, I haven't talked to Toni yet but I feel pretty confident Dez will come if I make it. It's a little ways off things can change, My main mission is to get set up in the Naval Home 1st and get on even keel. It will mostly be whats going on in our lifes during that period of time....Charlie

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Charlie, I don't know you personally but assume you are a good guy. Now tell me why a nice young lady would trust you. I'm really just kidding. TOM

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Tom it's a lttle ways off, Toni's cousin "Dez" is all for it. I just have to sit back and see what they come up with. Toni can talk with the best of ladys, but if you PO her she can teach a Sailor a few words. I haven't met Dez, but my main goal is to get there myself. I think Dez will come with me, because Toni has told her she can trust me a while back. Time will tell...Charlie

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Charlie, Sure you can bring guest. They will be more than welcome. TOM

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Tom I've got a snowball rolling down hill. Toni's cousin said she would love to go that she would talk to Toni. I bet they end up with Toni's sister also, time will tell it's a little ways off. God have mercy on me If it happens they will have fun in town also. I'm thinkng 3 days?...Charlie

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Tom Just to tell you what I'm trying to conn up is to get Toni to come, I've put a bug in her younger cousins ear about going, She's a newpaper reporter, I'm sure they will talk, I've never met her but her picture looks great, She's from Vicksburg. I'm also thinking about puting a bug into he sisters ear, Guest are welcome under the same rate aren't they? I have no idea what they will do at this point...Charlie

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LARRY, As I remember it we were outfitted in spare parts, engines, cat/arresting gear to support A4, F8, A3 and ships C1. TOM BORING

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Thanks Tom, I got your e-mail, you messed up on the 1st one like I told you I would, It looks great to me, I am going to steer that course hopefully be there. My main priority is to get boots on the ground at the retirement center. once there don't have to worry about all these bills, they just take it out and give me what's left over for liberty....Charlie

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Charlie, Like you my computer skills are limitrd. I'll have to wait until one of the grandkids come in to show me how to do it. In the mean time I'll send you an e-mail. I know how to do it that way. TOM

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Tom it woud be great if you cold put a link to click on, I will have to write it down and type it in 4 times to get it right. my computer skills aren't that great. I'm going to to try to be there. If I can I'm going to try to talk Toni into it, She could fly with the XO and Gay if they can make it. It would be the kind of thing she would like, I will push her button and give her food for though...Charlie

Name: Charlie Ridens
Email_Address: Valhalla1@cableone.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1960-1964
Division_Squadron_Detachment: A Division
Date: 21 Sep 2010
Time: 08:04

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XO I called Toni and she penciled you in and ask what it was and I told her a Masonic lodge thing. Call her if you would to make it an official invite. She's going to see me around the 1st, It seems like the TV station lets her do what she wants? I think she gets paid for having fun, but I worry about her in dangerous areas.....Charlie

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BRANSON MINI-REUNION Complete information: www.reunionproregistration.com/usshancock.htm TOM BORING

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XO I forgot to tell you she has one of those black berry phones now, I don't know anything about them but her number is the same, she dose a lot of testing to people contacting her. she calls me out of the blue sometimes and if I want to get her I can call but she screens her calls and calls me back shortly. a lot of the time she may be driving somewheres. you should be able to contact her but I will call to make sure you got through tomarrow...Charlie

Name: Larry Jones
Email_Address: ljones95370@hub3.net
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1966-68
Division_Squadron_Detachment: OE Div.
Date: 20 Sep 2010
Time: 21:42

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Any information regarding squadrons that were aboard the Hancock at any time would be appreciated. Specifically, squadron number, name, years aboard, A/C type. Also, links for any of those squadrons' webpages or associations would be helpful.

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XO Toni said she had her little hotrod Mercedes on high ground that she needed a Ski-doo to do her coverage, I think she will be here around the 1st of Oct for a week, I'm sure she would love to go to it, she has a way to fit things in her schedule. coming here may change depending on her duties, that Gal is hell to keep up with. I feel blessed to know her...Charlie

Name: Tom Wimberly
Email_Address: twimbo@aol.com
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1970-72
Division_Squadron_Detachment: Ship's XO
Date: 20 Sep 2010
Time: 20:19

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My Corpus Christi area has gotten lots of rain lately. Gay emptied 3.5 inches out of the rain guage one day, and over 2 the next. I am lucky to be relatively high - 18 feet above sea level. I only live half a block from Corpus Christi Bay, but there is a healthy difference in elevation. My lot is nicely sloped toward the street, and the house is about two feet above street level, so I don't have any flooding problem. During a hard rain many streets are 6 inches deep in rain runoff, and we have several low street crossings (the ones with overpasses) that flood to the extent they are impassable. I understand there is a fellow missing who tried to drive through what he thought was shallow water near Oso Creek. I am going to try to get in touch with Toni to give her some tickets to a barbecue my Masonic lodge is having on Oct. 23. I hope to go to Branson next May. We are having a Chase Field reunion in early April.

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Nick Riefsteck, I guess you left about the time I reported aboard. You probably remember Jim Radford, Chief Breeding, Finney Haisten, etc. Sure was loud back aft when the a/c caught the wire wasn't it. TOM BORING

Name: Nick Riefsteck
Email_Address: tickandnick@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1965-68
Division_Squadron_Detachment: S-6 division
Date: 20 Sep 2010
Time: 16:36

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To Texastom. I was aboard Hanna 65-68 and left in Oct 1968 for discharge.

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TWO MORE WWII LIFE MEMBERS; #438 George Berry, V-3, 44-45, #439 Henry Schutz, E, 44-46. That makes 32 new Life Members since the September issue of the Hannah News came out. Keep them coming, always room for more.

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XO I hear from Toni your geting a lot of flooding there. I hope it dosen't effect you. They have finaly called that oilwell dead here. a little hurricane would be good to stir up the bottom of the Gulf but I don't want anything to mess up my orders to walk up the gang plank to the Naval Home on time....Charlie

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Ken I am going to try to make it to Branson, I should have time to put a few bucks back after my move. I will know more about it as the date gets closer. I'll be getting rid of my van and a lot of deadwood. a Marine Patrol Officer is going with me when I check in so he will know the ropes through security and how to get to my room. He's a friend of Toni's also and he can bring her to see how it's done. She always visits when she comes down.They would get nervous if she used her press card to get through the gate. the headshed would go nuts thinking she was going to do a report....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft eng. rm.
Date: 19 Sep 2010
Time: 17:06

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Charlie, do you think you might make it to the Branson mimi reunion. i am going to try my chief is for it. maybe she wants to see Moe Bandy. that's my son-in-law 4th cousin. ken.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 19 Sep 2010
Time: 15:03

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Charlie, i kown were you are coming from. as long as it is chief and i coco is perfect.let someone come over that she does not know. then the fun begins. spent 350.00 $ to send her to boot camp. the trainner said when i droped her off i doubt if i can get it done in 7 weeks. he did help coco out. but she is going on 6 yrs. and getting alot better.got a shock collar when i got her from boot camp. did help at first. think she likes elect. gave up on that. now she is under my feet all the time. gave her away 2 times and got her back. think she knows me better then i know her. ken

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Ken, She's the same as a short haired Jack Russell with a little longer legs, bigger shoulder mussels, with a barrel chest. you would think is to big for a dog her size, shes not fat. I presume that's what gives her all the 02 when she putt's it in afterburner. Walking her she has 4WD. I have to use a shoulder harness. she's a lot more docile than she used to be. I need to walk her. It is a job. it's not like a dog walking it's merry way, she automatically gos into a hunt mode and drags me with her....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 19 Sep 2010
Time: 11:58

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Charlie, went to goggle on cujo breed, She is part of the association log. that's good she can look you up when she gets to calf. Still trying to rain here. not complaining let it come. ken.

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Darn Ken, I just read Kelly Gills the Gal in "Top Gun" went to New Jersey to get a Civil Union with some gal, the movie will never be the same, It said where she was from in Calif and her father was a Dr. I found Cujo's registration papers but not the rest, Shes a Parsons Russell Terrior. I'm going to have to look that up on the net...Charlie

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BRANSON MINI-REUNION Hey Shipmates, the contract is signed for our MAY 2011 MINI. It will be at the Lodge of the Ozarks. Right on the "strip" where everything is happening. TOM

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Warren, in my days I was invited by a guy to go into the 1st room with him, a guy had one on a rack on a work bench. I'm sure it wasn't armed, he was testing the movements of the tail fins, he had the cover off the "headlight" we drank coffee as I watched the other guy doing his thing with it. I have no idea about their procedure's or what generation of missile it was. that was the 1st and only time I was there, I brought him into my workspace witch restricted and he took me to his....Charlie

Name: Warren D. Wilder
Email_Address: ww2356@aol.com
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1973-1975
Division_Squadron_Detachment: "G" div
Date: 18 Sep 2010
Time: 19:18

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Charlie, I was an AO2 in G-Div-Ordnance. Missle shop was nothing like that.Sidewinders came in 3 parts. G&C(guidance and control), Warhead, and moter section. They were all stored seperate in magizines on Hanna. When assembling missles they were all handled alone.just like forward bomb asembally.MK -82 500lbs er's were seperate from fuzes until armed on the flight deck.hanna had all that bad stuff, but it was very safely handled. Even the GMT Weapons.had bunch of those too.

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Ken she's spayed and ain't interested in that stuff, The Long Horns have sure disapointed me, I'm watching the game, It's 1/2 time I have no idea what their coach is doing. he's sure not helping them...Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksuredduin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 18 Sep 2010
Time: 18:36

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that's good Charlie, you know cujo will be in good hands. hope their are no gay dogs around her. ha .ken.

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I just talked to my oldest son in San Diego, his wife wants Cujo, that's another worry gone. she will get her 1st plane ride. I hope illegals don't make tacos out of her. I've got all her papers together in one spot, now I have to find that spot. paperwork is not a friend of mine. I pile it in boxes and say it's there if I need it. now I have to dig through it. I can't believe I used to teach Jr college , but I had a secretary that handled that stuff....Charlie

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Ken I've had financial things hit me rapid fire for a while, once I get in the Naval Home settled I'm getting rid of my van and won't have near the up keep of everything I have now. The move I'm looking fwd to geting there but not having deal with the actual move. hopefully it will be my last seabag drag....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 18 Sep 2010
Time: 15:53

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hey Charlie, ya'll getting any of this weather? san antonio ia doing good. so far 8.5 in. in 2 weeks.i been thinking might become a life menber in feb. 2011. the dues do go down. i should not be a tite ass. the assc. and the people doing it are the best. i could do with about 1/3 less beer and pay for it. my chief agrees.ken

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Old Salt I know how proud I was when I found out I could be called a Life Member. I still haven't figured out who commisioned me. I'm sure the new members are proud of that title. They are some elder Sailors on the list I can only imagine their life aboard the Hanna....Charlie

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LATEST BATCH OF NEW LIFE MEMBERS: #434 Bobby Moore, S-1 Div, (SK2), 54-56, #435 Albert Garrett, M Div, 53-56, #436 Dallas McCleery, R Div, 67-69, #437, Bill Craig, M Div, 66-70.

OVER 1/3 OF OUR MEMBERS ARE NOW LIFE MEMBERS! They help to ensure that the Assn will be around for many years to come.

Name: David Byrum
Email_Address: dtbyrum@gmail.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1961-1964
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V-4 Div
Date: 18 Sep 2010
Time: 10:14

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Wayne, HP is HP isn't it? I would think you would have to figure what all that equipment would weigh and compare it to a conventional gas (diesel) set up.

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Greeting's, some of us have found members of our crew, we hope they join our Association. This weekin at the Oceana Naval Air Station, there is an Air Show. The Blue Angles are the main attraction. We hope to go, I always enjoy the show. Take good care. Mack

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Pete from what I see reading is the S2 was a sub hunter. it had weapon mounts on the wings. Dennis the one I saw was the C-1 it did't have bomb racks but that dosen't mean we didn't get S2's aboard. an S2 might have landed once that the rumor got around that the mail plane landed but we didn't have mail call. us Snipes can't keep up with your toys on the flight deck we had work to do...Charlie

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Dennis us snipes had our fun below decks out of site, we didn't have golf carts to have races with. Most you Air dales thought us crazy guys in the 02 plant was going to blow the ship up, I worried about the ordnance section. I don't think the missile shop cold cause much damage. I just got to see on little part of it that had a sidewinder calibrating I would guess ordanice stored the warheads until called for. I don't know but on an ammo loading party the were real heavy coffee cans that they opend to load them on the missle...Charlie

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What I come with is that our Cod was a C1 Trader. they had a lot of variations to fit specific needs, they had a 9clyn 1500 Hp engines. range 1300 miles, 287 mph. I've heard of them being launched but the 2 I saw take off did it on their own with a long jog to the bow, the wind must have been have been in their favor with nothing but mail sacks...Charlie

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Pete, I bought a 64 Mustang when I went into the Army, I'm not sure what yr Cougar came out but it was a better built car body wise. It had about the same running gear. They were a little heavier and expensive than the Mustang. They were a great car in my book, I don't think they produced as many as Mustang....Charlie

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Dennis, slight correction: COD is for "Carrier On Board Delivery." In our day, it was the S-2 variant as you point out. My first squadron, VC-4 Det Cecil, had F-8s (later A-4s) and S-2s. As the duty Jet-Jock when the S-2 would fly, I was the guy in right seat to provide proper "weight and balance" :) Hey, got me my multi-engine rating.Pete

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I guess we were a pretty noisy bunch of guys up there. You trolls living underground were a quiet bunch. We were noisy and mostly crazy, played with dangerous stuff all the time and hung around with pilots that liked landing on a postage stamp that was floating around in a big ocean. None of our bubbles were centered on our levels but our three elevators did go to the top floor. We ran around talking with hand signals (sometimes just one finger would get the message across) like a bunch of deaf mutes. Jim would drag race on the flight deck, we would try to out run waves coming over the flight deck in rough seas but we really enjoyed our jobs. Dennis

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Dennis I remember you telling us about a guy walking in the back of a prop but not much detail, He is one lucky guy, It might have been after your time but I remember when the flight deck crew started drawing hazardous duty pay, I don't remember what yr. they deserved it, I had the armour deck between me and you guys. It wasn't near as noisy or confusing......Charlie

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Continuing on about the COD. The guy that walked into it from behind was treated in the ships hospital, about two weeks later we pulled into Olongapo and I had to pull Shore Patrol at the EM club. In walks two medics with this guy between them. The guy was plaster cats from his hips to the top of his head. His entire head and neck were a solid mass of plaster. One arn proped out to the side and up. His eyes looked like two piss holes in a snow bank and were both blood red. He had talked them into stopping there for a beer on the way to the hospital or airfield or where ever he was headed. He drank it through a straw. Crazy sailors. Dennis

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Charlie, The aircraft we had aboard during our time period was built by Grumman. Originally it was built as the Grumman Tracker for anti sub work. Grumman made our model for passenger, freight and mail for carrier operations. I don't remember what the model number was but the Hancock had the first one delivered to the Navy. COD stood for Carrier On Deck. When the wings were folded the props stuck out about 4 feet outside the aircraft and many a poor soul walked into those unprotected props. One guy during our time walked into it from behind, he was busted up and cut up badly buy survived while we were in the PI. He walked between the island and the aircraft, the prop was only about two feet from the island and he didn't see it spinning because it was dusk. Dennis

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I am not a car expert like Dennis, but my first car as an Ensign in flight school was a '68 Mercury Cougar...not the best, but mine! Served me well! Many PCSs across country. Loved that car.

Wayne, you are #2 Life Guy, who is #1?

Pete

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Pete I liked the Pilots landing prayer talking to the Good Lord, when I was on the Hanna I knew nothing about how Pilots landed. I just figured they just saw the ship and landed. I don't know about the COD, that thing made it look simple. did we one just for us or were they like UPS? I have no idea who built them or designation number. I would like to read about them...Charlie

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I'm looking into the purchase of a good off-shore boat and started wondering if it would be possible to take a hull of a boat and install an electric motor to drive a Volvo, duo-prop out-drive unit for propulsion? Does anyone have any background in determining what size of electric motor it would take to drive a 30 foot boat thru the water at around 30 knots? I intend to provide power thru solar voltaic panels, built into a sun cover, and back it up with a small diesel engine running a bank of alternators. Workable idea?

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 16 Sep 2010
Time: 16:37

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Charlie, them shear pins have made alot of money for the service co. i have work for plus making this field mech.a mutck easyer job .How are you hanging? ha later ken.

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Most equipment has shear pins, we had a 60 HP electric motor driving our 3k psi HP compressor in the plant. It never froze up so we never had to change it. our Lox pump had a Teflon one in it. It recirculated lox through the bubbler trays to further purify it, those Pilots are cranky about their 02. our test had to be 99.7 pure. (fart free)....Charlie

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A couple funny things today, Toni was doing a story on the Bay in Corpus and a SeaGull pooped on her brown pants,and she had to get back to the TV station and hide it to do a Dog presentation for the animal shelter, She said at least he didn't try to hump me...Charlie

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Ken it was a prewar tractor, you sure didn't want to drive it on any roads or the lugs (spikes) would tear it up. we just left it parked behind the barn and put a tin can over the stack, it had a metal seat with holes in it so it wouldn't catch water. I don't know where Dad got it he had it when I got home from school, it was kinda rusty but ran good. It was slow. no hydralics or power take-off. just a draw bar. he put weights on front of the Ford so it could lift more without the front comeing off the ground. flat tires were a problem with it some times....Charlie

Name: kennrth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958=1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm
Date: 15 Sep 2010
Time: 17:37

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Charlie, might have been a f, h,m, they were all good. how they could take a 20 30 40 hosepower engine run it through a gear train with the weight and get that kind of power. them engineers were good with pin and paper not comp. were good. ken

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Ken, My dad bought his Ranch under the GI bill, He bought 160 acres and then bought the 160 acres next to it but it was taken back from the Vet that bought and they offerd him a great deal and didn't raise his payment's much. He had an old Farmall with steel lug wheels and that thing would fight me useing the hand crank when it was cold, once warm no problems. we were clearing trees for pasture. If you put that dude in Granny and had a chain on it, It was going with. The rubber tire Ford we used for shreading and pulling the hay trailer to feed cattle in the winter...Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm
Date: 15 Sep 2010
Time: 09:42

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My dad had his name on list for a framall b. my oldest son has it. forgot what he paid for it. had disc harrow, single plow, cyccle bar. it still is running. ken

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My Dad told me after WWII people had to get on a waiting list to buy things. the Sheriff Dept got the 1st outboard and aluminum boat for police duty. he had his name on the list. He said you had to use a starter rope, there were a bunch of people there to see it. the Sheriff stood up to crank it, he had it in gear and it took off, he lost his balance and went over the stern. he had it full throttle and it went in circles, he swam ashore and no one could catch the boat until it ran out of gas. If I remember right he said they were 5 hp elgins...Charlie

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My Uncles Hudson was impressive to me with the luxury of it. It had a flat head 6 in it, I remember that when we gased up ond they checked the oil. back then you didn't have to pump your own gas or check the oil. Other cars had prettier body styles to me. I know of none that were ever owned in Paris, they didn't sell them. Just about everything in Paris was Ford or General Motors...Charlie

Name: Helmut Umbley
Email_Address: humbley502@aol.com
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1964-66
Division_Squadron_Detachment: VA-216
Date: 15 Sep 2010
Time: 06:37

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I don't know any technical stuff about Hudsons. My next door neighbor had a 1950 model which he traded for a 1956 Olds Super 88. There were not many around in the 1950s. I know that Hudson merged with Nash around 1955 and the company became American Motors. Sales were bad and the nail in the coffin came in the spring of 1957. I saw my first, and only, 1957 Hudson while at a swim meet at Springfield College. It was turquoise,black and white. Even now if I see a Hudson at a car show, it's usually a pre WW II model.

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Charlie and Ken, Back in 53 or 54 Hudson had a model called the "Hudson Hornet" It was a straight 6 cyl engine with 2 one barrel carburetors on it, also I think it was 308 Cubic inches. They dominated the 1/2 mile dirt track and NASCAR for years. The V8 engines could not catch them on the track as a 6 cyl engine gets it's torque at low end and the V8 needed RPM to develop horse power. The track wasn't long enough for the V8 engines to work good. The Hudson wasn't the prettiest one around but it sure was a runner and they were pretty plush. The last ones were built in 1957 Dennis

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Ken I had an Uncle that had a Hudson within those yrs, I don't know what model but it was pretty plush, The seats were very comfortable, if I don't have my wires crossed the dash was woodgrain. He like in Dallas and drove threw Paris on his way to do something in Ark and I road with him. It was shiney green with a windshield visor. I was young....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm
Date: 14 Sep 2010
Time: 16:18

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Helmut, have you have any dealing with a Hudson. my dads freind got one after he came back. he was in german war. i think it had to be in late 40 are early 50 when he got the car. it had auto trans. clutches had disc. with cork. i do know it was a car on the hyway that was very smooth. ken

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AND MORE LIFE MEMBERS SIGN UP: #432 Jack Freemann, VB-6, 45, #433 ; Joe Reynolds, A Div, 64-67.

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Ralph Nader made a lot of noise about many cars including the VW. I read in the mid-sixties that Ralph Nader did not have a driver's license and probably did not know how to drive. GM dropped the Corvair because the engine was too expensive to build compared to a regular 6 cylinder and sales did drop after "Unsafe at any Speed." VW countered by better advertising and sales soared. Back then nobody cared about gas mileage because gas was under 25 cents a gallon. It was 20 cents on base. The optional gas heaters were used in the Greenbrier vans. The cars were heated by hot air from engine cooling. In my opinion the Corvair was not unsafe. Some of the drivers were the cause, as with any car.

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I just read something about the Corvair I didn't know, they had gas heaters in them. I know when I was in Germany 2 of my buddys from Nam were stationed close to me, My assistant gunner and wife came to visit us, he was from NY, his his Mom was Polish and his Father Russian. He had a VW bus that had one, he didn't turn it off when they visted and when they started to leave his was so hot it liked to melted his seat covers. he had to open the doors to let it cool off. I don't remember what they did but the Army stuck me in a tank...Charlie

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Helmut, that Corvair was good on gas, 17 cents a gal didn't hurt either. Is that the one Ralph Nader made all that fuss over. That Ford Falcon was a pretty tough little car for the money. but as I remember they had competition from the Beetle. I liked the cars back then. I 56 I just started High School. I got my 55 Chevy in 57. It and my CJ-5 Jeep were my favorite vehicles I've owned....Charlie

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My wife and I got a 1965 Corvair Monza for a wedding present and drove it from Salem,MA. to LA for $49 worth of gas. VA-216 was at NAS Lemoore. That car was driven cross country six times, four of them on US 66. In over 100,000 miles it only threw the fanbelt twice. Yes, I always carried a spare and still do. Unlike the early models, the later ones had guides on the pulleys. In 1986 my wife bought herself a Pontiac Fiero. This car threw fanbelts constantly. I had at least six in the trunk and special tools. You had to wait for the engine to cool off before crawling under the car to replace the belt. It was not fun.

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The Bug Eyed Sprite I saw at the drags had a 327 Chevy small block in it. Lots of power but the thing was so light it just sat there and spun the tires. When they put a small block Chevy in the bigger Healy they said the handling improved by 50% plus the power, it was a great conversion but they lost that great sound the original car had. Dennis

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Charlie, The Austin Healy was a very nice car, the older one with the tilt windshield had a 4 Cyl engine and later they went to a in line 6. They sounded great but a lot of guys put small block Chevy engines in them. The little one was the Austin Healy Sprite or commonly referred to as the "Bug Eyed Sprite" Had a 4 cyl 1200cc engine, I did see one of those at the drags in southern Cal once, They only weighed about 1200 pounds and he could not get traction with it to go fast. It was a very fun car to drive.

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Dennis I remember the old MG TD, they were no hotrod but beautiful, the one I looked over I was in Germany, rag top and wasn't made for winter driving. they were a little expensive. you could pick a used one up for around 3K but there wasn't many. that was a lot of money then. I liked the Austin Healy, that was a running dude. I think in the States in later yrs the made a little thing that looked like a frog with the headlights on it. I don't think two big people could get in the thing. Corvairs had the longest fan belt in the world, every one that had one carried a spare, it would eat them up and leave you stranded in the middle of no-where...Charlie

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Charlie, I don't know what happened but I had some words jump around. My one sentence was suppose to end "That trip sucked". but the sucked part wound up after my name. I made it from Oklahoma City to Detroit in 3 days and was frozen and very tired. The car came from California and never had a heater, just me and my sea bag with a old rag top that let wind in everywhere. It was February and I had to tear down the engine in my dad's driveway outside in the cold. The bolts were all Wentworth size which is halfway between American and Metric sizes. Old sockets that were well worn worked if you beat them on. Wat a bitch, good I was young and stupid back then.

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They call it "Drafting" in NASCAR. I did it going from Frisco to Detroit during the winter, I used old route 66 and I had a 1952 MG TD which looked like a little 32 Ford roadster. I wanted more speed as it was just a 4 banger. I started drafting semi's and going through Oklahoma City about 70 I sucked a intake valve through # 2 piston. I actually made it all the way to Detroit on 3 cyl. I also had to put in 3 quarts of oil every 50 mile or so and scrape the other plugs of the oil build up. No heater in the car and that trip. I was broke and was using old drain oil I would beg from service stations along the way. I could only make about 40 mPH and they kept kicking me off the freeway cause I was so slow. Dennissucked.

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Dennis following behind a big object is smart, when I used to drive from Fresno back to the ship when it was so foggy I would tailgate a semi. If there was a pile-up on the freeway I figured he would clear the path. Driving to Ca from Paris once there was one heck of a north wind heading to Amarillo. bucking it was like pouring your gas out on the ground.I pulled behind a semi and lt him fight the wind. I got in the vacum he pulled behind him and hardley burned any gas. It's not a good idea to do that unless in a bind.....Charlie

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Charlie, I got shot while responding to a guy that said he was going to commit suicide, he didn't want to be interrupted, Stabbed by two different gals after pulling their husbands off them during a domestic fight. I used to go in with the Swat team but we were not issued vests (I used to stay behind the biggest cop I could for a shield). It's a crazy world out there and people never cease to amaze me. Dennis

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I've been reading on FB some people are worried about gun laws, most states have different laws. I've had guns all my life. I know in the North East the laws are a problem. some people are nuts, I think Dennis worked for the PD and got shot working in the Fire dept reasponding to a fire. The only time I got shot was practiceing quick draw with my cowboy holster & pistol and my thub sliped off the hammer...Charlie

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Dennis I put in for Request Mast one time in the B's, They send you to school weather you like it or not. the training Officer was sending me to a school I'd already been to before. He told me to go anyway. It never made it tho the Skipper, I think the XO got his butt for not paying attention to training records. He sure didn't like me after that....Charlie

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Glad your back Pete. I liked South West when I flew from Dallas to San Diego. They flew from Love Field in Dallas instead of DFW to save on airport fees. DFW is a mess anyway.....Charlie

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Hi shipmates, RTB from "Hook 10" tonight was a smooth evolution on South West Airlines. Arrived at home base without "too" much "collateral combat damage" :) Stories were told with gusto, and ole' guys tried to act 20ish again. I think the stories are getting better, bar flying was done by all....Had a good time, missed you XO. Pete

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Charlie... Glad to hear you're up and running again. It's no fun being OOC, eh? (out of commission) Ken... I've been cruising these pages for a few years now. I always hope that another buddy will sign in and let us know how life has treated them. I also go to the other Hancock sites and search out old shipmates. In fact, the guy that told me that we had an association was Pete Leon, another member, and I was looking into buying his boat.(Witch was a beauty!) You stumble across people purely by accident and then your life takes a turn.

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Continuing on. During Desert Storm I was sent over as a Firefighter especially when they found out I was also a Paramedic to help put out the oil well fires. Got there and they had hired Red Adare and his gang to do it, heck they had most of them out by the time we got there, only spent 3 days there kicking sand and then came home. Then they said they probably couldn't get an old Master Sgt. to do much anyway. A case of hurry up and then do nothing. Dennis

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Charlie, In my 30 + years in both the Navy and USAF I never got a Captain's Mast but I remember chewing out a full bird one time, I was right and he knew he was wrong. I guess it was in the way I did it and he saw the sense in it. It was just between the two of us so no one lost face and I guess I was pretty diplomatic about it.We walked away friends after it was over. I tried not to shove my foot in my mouth without thinking it over first, that is where you can get in trouble fast. Enjoyed every year I had in the service. Dennis

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I've been really grumpy for a week, I got over a bad tooth acke and got a bad sore throat I just got over. I think I'm back on even keel. I can't take head injury's to good they make me mad at myself. Ken I have no dought about we have long term Sailors. My worst mistake was not to stay aboard the Hanna, Those greener pastures may not be all that green. If you got a good thing going stick with it. You don't become XO scratching in the bilges. He worked for it. I have wished a thousand times I had stayed aboard her.....Charlie

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ANOTHER GROUP OF NEW LIFE MEMBERS who will never have to pay dues again, and who are helping to ensure that the HANCOCK Assn lasts long into the future. #420 Robert Blitt, V1(AG) 44-45; #421 Malcolm Council, B Div, 53-56, #422 CAPT Everette Deweese, VF-211 (Pilot), 63-65, #423 CAPT Joseph Gildea, Eng(MPA), 60-62, #424 HTCS William Hennessy, R Div, 66-70, #425 Dr. Ron Hillebrand, D(LT) 59-61, #426 Stephen Milalovic, VB-6, 45, #427 Manuel R. Meriono, B, A, Divs, (FN), 70-72, #428 Rudy Rodriguez, K-2 Div, SM3c, 45-46, #429 RMC Clement "Pat" Mesch CR Div(TE(RM)1), 57-59, #430 Leo R. Talbot, 2nd Div, 44-45, #431 Jeffery Johnson, 75.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958=1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 12 Sep 2010
Time: 15:18

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Charlie, been reading post back to 2001. our XO. has over 30 yrs.on diff. ships and land base duty. seened Wayne's name too, plus a few others. it was interesting. ken.

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I have strong feelings embodied in me from my days as youth through 20 in the Military. I read in black and white. I believe in the impossible. a simple yes or no. That's what I like about the Navy BS don't last long. The fleet wide test were great competing in your rate, It made me study and try hard at my job. once I left the Hanna she was still with me even today. I'm a hard ass by modern standards, we all had to pay attention to detail with not much room for error...Charlie

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I'm glad to see some response, The same code applied from bottom to top. It was a small code book without Politicians bending it. I have never heard of unfair treat ment. Those Reserves in Iraq made fools of the Militatry and made the world think we were that way. An Officer you can Question his Judgement. You better be sure your right. I told on your puting my men in harms way to put it in writeing so I don't get stuck with the blame. he backed off. It is a fair system but no way can Civilians live by it...Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rn.
Date: 11 Sep 2010
Time: 16:32

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Phil, i really meant that our gov. and the people running it should have a code to do right for america. thanks for info. went back and read more about ucmj. i see what it is doing to our military. after i post. went back to what it meant ucmj. and read a little more ken.

Name: phil Torres
Email_Address: phil.torres@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1965-1968
Division_Squadron_Detachment: E Div IC Gang
Date: 11 Sep 2010
Time: 16:14

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Ken , Charlie I'm sure this country would be better off if the Rats in Washington DC, the logic free zone were under the UCMJ. Unfortunately, lately the UCMJ is more like the Uniform Code of Military Injustice. The Military service members get trained to do their job and when they do it, they seem to be subject to a court martial. Even the Commanding General is subject to removal because of an unpatriotic yellow jouralist magazine article. Had it been me, I would have personally escorted his sorry ass out of town with a NO COMMENT FOR YOU.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 11 Sep 2010
Time: 15:43

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Charlie, if our gov. and them idoits running it were under that code we would be in a lot better shape. ken

Name: Rick Acree
Email_Address: rickacree@cox.net
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1964-1967
Division_Squadron_Detachment: OI Div
Date: 11 Sep 2010
Time: 13:22

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I don't always wear my Hancock hat, but I do wear it. Last night at a restaurant a fellow approached me because of my hat and struck up a conversation about the Hancock. He told me 4 or 5 years ago he was in a curio shop and found a Presentation Commemorative cigarette lighter to one of our Commanding Officers. Unfortunately, he didn't remember our Skipper's name. He did some research and found out our CO was CO of a base in Hawaii after the Hancock. He also found out our Captian was deceased. He found his family and forwarded on the cigarette lighter to them. He told me he got a nice letter from the family in return.

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I would like to toss something out for debate. the UCMJ to see if I can get bites...Charlie

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Ken I woke up with a sore throat and lung congestion this AM, I probley caught it at Walmarts, I hope to feel better tomarrow. I'm sure your kin enjoyed thier visit. I like to visit kin but like getting back home better. I liked the trip We made big sweep around the US driveing to Pete's old stomping ground. Wa State has beautiful country. the weather and rubarb pie was the worst. they were my inlaws. Most the old timers on Whidney were German and spoke it to each other. One called his wife "Chief Crazy Horse" you have to laugh at them if your from the South. They have some wierd ways to us...Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 10 Sep 2010
Time: 13:39

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hey Charlie, been reading coments . my brother in-law and his daughter came for a week too visit his sister and ken. enjoyed their visit. he is from senora kentucky his daughter is from ill. he is ritired from army. master stg. with 24 yrs. read where your move to NH. is on the 12th. hope you the best. ken

Name: Butch Portillo
Email_Address: willyfudds11@gmail.com
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1963-1966
Division_Squadron_Detachment: S-3 Div.
Date: 10 Sep 2010
Time: 09:46

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Phil Torres, & Mike Caulfield, i never new john suffered from cancer or had been cancer free, he never said anything to me all the time we had been talking. it was a month before he passed away he was telling me what was going on. Phil i still haven't found my sister, it was 51 years in may that i haven't seen her. I'm on facebook look for butch portillo & we can talk more, take care you two.

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Dennis I agree, every action you do against "Mother Nature" she's going to react back in some way. Puerto Rico had a lot of snakes, they introduced Mongoose, they don't have snakes but are over run with rats. I think most of our weather problems is because of harvesting trees in the Amazon rain forest. nuke power clean? what the heck are you going to do with the spent rods that have a 1/2 depletion rate for centurys...Charlie

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Charlie, agent orange was another government attempt to mess with mother nature as with most attempts by federal and state government it came back and bit us in the butts. Here in Michigan every time the state starts to mess with the environment they mess it up worse. Think back when England introduced rabbits to Australia, no natural predators and they went crazy, ruining what crops they had then. Man hasn't learned. Like being in a fight and getting knocked down bad, then standing up and asking for more. It is the nature of us to be stupid. Dennis

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Mike that's sad, There's really no is cure for Agent Orange. my blood Dr was thinking about giving me a bone marrow transplant but backed out because I was to old. The VA has a loop your paperwork gos through. no one wants to say you have it. My blood Dr knew it but when it gos to a higher level it comes back saying there's other thing that could cause the same symptoms. My 1st Dr that said I was sent me to Dallas for a kidney operation.....Charlie

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Name: Mike Caulfield
Email_Address: mtkaka@yahoo.com
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1972-1972
Division_Squadron_Detachment: VFP-63 DET-1
Date: 10 Sep 2010
Time: 01:15

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As posted by Butch Portillo, I am saddened to learn of the passing of John LeJeune (VF-211) from pancreatic cancer.

I was last in touch with John in November 2006 via email and at that time he had been cancer-free for 2 years or so (prostate).

He said his VA claim was at the Board of Appeals in Washington... I never learned of the outcome of his Appeal. Prostate cancer is one of several diseases linked to presumptive exposure to dioxin (Agent Orange).

FUBAR

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Our Country has no Damage Control. We are a sinking vessel if we don't get the bilge pumps going. The Feds put States in hand cuffs, A lot of Military ask Jesus to pull the Family Jewels out of the fire one more time. Why don't we have our flag in class rooms and say the pledge of allegiance anymore. my football team used to say a prayer before a game. I'm not a Bible thumper but think back the way it was...Charlie

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We have all worked to keep invaders away from our shores, That's what the Military for. The wisdom of DC started using us as Nation builders. you can't change a Country. They haven't learned a thing from Vietnam. our borders are open. We are being whip from inside our borders. I could care less about the Koran. a terrorist can hide under our laws if their leagal or not....Charlie

Name: Jim Winn
Email_Address: Jwinnfsm@aol.com
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1959 - 1962
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V-6 and VF-211
Date: 09 Sep 2010
Time: 19:36

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Wayne, You might want to read the Koran, completely, yourself before you make any statements either way! Jim

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Hey! Is anyone going to the Koran burning today? It never ceases to amaze me at the depths that some people will descend to gain a little fame. I'm no fan of Islam, but this guy is a little embarrassing to my species! I listened to the Imam that is trying to build the Mosque in New York and to my amazement, he seemed pretty decent and even thoughtful...for a Muslim. I guess they're all not crazy after all!

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XO, I underestimated Hermine, it caused a lot of flooding inland, Texas weather been pretty crazy for several yrs now, Miss Mississippi suppose to welcome back the 1st vets back to the Naval Home Oct 4. my reporting date is the 12th. I'm anxious to get the ball rolling....Charlie

Name: Tom Wimberly
Email_Address: twimbo@aol.com
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1970-72
Division_Squadron_Detachment: Exec of the ship
Date: 09 Sep 2010
Time: 05:52

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Charlie, I did get personally involved in the storm Hermine. Had a granddaughter from Calif visiting here and she was due to fly out of San Antonio returning to Calif on Wednesday at noon. Usually we have a crowd go up to see her off, but with the bad weather we decided to send her with her mother to San Antonio Tuesday afternoon instead of traveling Thursday. They could stay with son or ex-daughter in law and be close to the airport Wednesday. Both son and ex-DIL had electrical power failures, but by the time they arrived, son's power was on again. She got off OK yesterday. San Antonio can get mean in heavy rains. It's hilly; lots of streets can flood dangerously.

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Shipmates It's flu shot time, I got mine at Walgreens today. It didn't cost me anything with my retired ID, It only took 10 mins. I bought a DVD there. I was on my scooter and went to Walmarts, leaving the DVD set the alarm off, there was 3 people trying to figure out what was doing it and it was the DVD, Good Football Game tomarrow. I hope the Vikings whip the Saints, Those late hits on Farve last yr was dirty pool. Cujo's on the patio barking at the VC trying to sneak up on me.....Charlie

Name: Tom Boring
Email_Address: Texastom95@aol.com
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1968-1970
Division_Squadron_Detachment: S-6 Division
Date: 08 Sep 2010
Time: 10:40

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CARL, I didn't catch your post back in 2005. I'm always on the lookout for anyone who worked in aviation supply. I was in the Navy during 56-57 but not aboard HANCOCK. I didn't report aboard until 68. If you want to become a member e-mail me and I will put you in touch with the membership chairman. TOM

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Butch Portillo; Sorry to hear about the loss of your friend John (VF211) Did you ever have any luck in the search for you sister ? if not don't give up, continue searching.. Phil

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Hi Carl, on aboard and make some noise, I'm kind of a newcomer to this site but a motor mouth. no one ever heard of me before I started talking about my experinces aboard the Hanna and a bunch in different Depts had ties with mine. 3K men with some departing after each cruise is quite an ordeal. I like to here about the changes that went throught the yrs,but my yrs are very special to me....Charlie

Name: carl johnson
Email_Address: cajjlj@msn.com
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1956-1957
Division_Squadron_Detachment: supply aviation
Date: 08 Sep 2010
Time: 07:48

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Hello to all and wishing everyone the best. Left messages in 2005, but got no replies. Hope better luck this time.

Name: carl johnson
Email_Address: cajjlj@msn.com
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1956-1957
Division_Squadron_Detachment: supply aviation
Date: 08 Sep 2010
Time: 07:36

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Hello to all and wishing everyone the best. Left messages in 2005, but got no replies. Hope better luck this time.

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I lost a good friend a couple of weeks ago, john legeune, i believe he was a lifetime member. john was in VF-211Checkertails aboard ship. he passed away from pancreatic cancer, he will be missed !!!

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XO I see you got a tropical storm in CC, Toni said the TV station was without lights for a while. the engineers blamed her jokingly. If something breaks down it's usually when she's using it. "its not my fault this time" Paris really needed the rain. We have sure lucked out since Katrina. we are over due....Charlie

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Dennis, as a boy my uncle came back from Korea, he taught me the proper way to shoot, breathing, trigger squezze, put the stock in the same place on my shoulder and my cheek in the same place, you know the routine, I practiced on the Red Dot on Havoline oil cans, he taught me how to read the patten to correct what I was doing wrong. My cousins never could out shoot me. that target master was very acurate once he set the sights....Charlie

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Charlie, That crow story made me laugh.I had my 13 year old grandson out shooting clays 2 summers ago and he kept missing. I picked my 22 semi auto up and said "Grandpa will back you up" He took 3 shots and missed, I fired 4 from the hip and damned if I didn't hit it and it shattered. Took full credit for it and he was amazed. I could never duplicate that shot again but he didn't know it. I was probably more amazed than he was but didn't let on. Dennis

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Wild Crows wouldn't let me get in range, I killed one at an unbelievable range. I might have been using my bolt action 22 mag Mossberg. I aimed high and wind age? I never expected to hit it. It fell out of the tree, Dad looked at me and said damn boy your pretty good with that thing. I took my undeserving pat on the back. I gave all my guns to my oldest son. It, my pre 64 30-30 Winchester and Remington Auto Shotgun. my 20 Ga double barrel Stevens somehow disappeared along with my single shot 22 target master that was my 1st gun with a civilian moving co moving us back from Germany. I was about 10 when I got the 22 for Chrismas ...Charlie

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Buck fever:) The 1st deer I killed was with that same 20 Ga. I was quail hunting as a boy and checked the blackberry thickets. a doe ran out and I broke her back with bird shot at real close range before I realize what was going on. Dad didn't want me killing deer because they ate brush and vines and helped keep them cleaned out, but I took her to the house and we dressed her. they used salt licks we put out for cattle. I had to break Ice in the ponds in the Am before school with a sledge hammer for cattle to drink and they would also. to kill one wouldn't be much of a challange...Charlie

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Wayne Guns weren't a big thing growing up in Paris Tx. all boys had them, I had a horse named Buck. Cowboy movies are BS, I shot at a rabbit with a 20 Ga off in the saddle, He rolled me of the back and left me in the dirt and hauled butt bach to the barn. Dad had about 240 acres. Ranching is hard work especialy during hay seaon. that was back in the days of square bales.....Charlie

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Thanks Pete, enjoy your trip, I'm sure you guys will have a lot of war stories to share. I admire you Pilots even though I think y'all are nuts...Charlie

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Yes Wayne, I really appreciate my donor. I don't remember the highway # but there was one that went threw the Sierras where all the goldmines were. very interesting, some of the land that they hydro mined was still scared. I bought me a goldpan. I had the only one in Paris Tx....Charlie

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Shipmates, off to "Hook 10" on Thursday. Will represent the Hannah with honor. Congrats to Charlie on your new Life Membership!

Wayne, I will work on A-4 membership, I have a few guys in mind.

Pete

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Continued... Upon seeing all of these deer in the brush that we had just walked through, "Buck Fever" hit us big time and all three of us opened up on the deer. Didn't hit a thing! It sounded like WWIII had started. The last shot from one of our guns clipped the antler off one of the bucks and stunned it. The rest took off for parts unknown. We had to finish it off with a 22cal. rifle because it was the only thing that had any ammo in it. I ate venison for a couple of months after that and haven't been able to eat it since.

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Phil and Charlie...A few years back, a couple of buddies of mine and I formed a new construction company. Times were tough and money was tight at first, so we decided to go deer hunting because we needed the food! We drove up to a place called Indian Valley jusy north of San Francisco. After freezing our nuggets off that nightr, we got moving around 0700 and walked for about two hours before stoping on a rocky hilltop for a rest. I saw a rabbit on the fire trail below us and took a shot. Didn't hit a thing, but six or seven deer jumped up out of the underbrush to see what happened. More to follow.

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Charlie... Congrats on your "Life Membership"! And thanks to your donor. Renews your faith in mankind, eh? I believe their is a drive thru Redwood tree in the Muir Woods north of San Francisco. I haven't been there since 1976, but I'm fairly sure that I remember one being there.

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Phil my son told me he may move to N Calif when he retires, his wifes from Goose Bay Oregon. I worry about the fires where he's at now, he said it was so dry that you could rub to sticks together and start a fire. He's going to go to College under the GI bill and said maybe Phoenix. he thinks Calif is going to clean house with there politicians and unions. he said a lot of industry is moving out of Calif because of tax's....Charlie

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Phil, the one we drove thew was at Sequoia. I think it was the General Grant tree that had a sign that said it was a sapling when Jesus was born that the Redwoods were the oldest living things on earth. I froze my but off deer hunting just out side on Yosemite Park, there is one heck of a temperature change from day to night. there was so much brush you couldn't see a deer if it was standing next to you. you had to camp in authorized camping areas, does would come threw and see if there was anything good to eat laying around. My wife fed one some crackers, I think she liked the salt. I never heard of any problems with bears there....Charlie

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I just got a call from my Master Chief son David, he's looking to retire Jan 2012 with 30. He's on the LPD-7 Cleveland. He loves sea duty, His wife was a 3rd class ET, when he met her. the smartest woman I ever met, she's a workaholic and loves to tare into things. the 1st time I saw her was her butt sticking out of their dishwasher with part's all over the place, I ask David shouldn't you be doing that. he said she won't let me. She's VP at a Jr College there now. Sheryl would qualify as a Japanese taxi driver. I road with her once and just closed my eyes. I have no idea how shes still alive. We went to TJ, me and her got drunk and David and my wife baby sitted us....Charlie

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Charlie; The redwood tree that had a highway running thru it was located in Yosemite National park, it fell in 1969. Tunnel tree in Sequoia Nat Park also fell some time ago. The only three drive thru trees remainig are privately owned and are located south of Crecent city,Ca. I used to go deer hunting in Humbolt and Mendecino counties until the low land idiots started going there and shooting all over the place, that convinced me to stop, it started to sound like a war zone with high power rifle bulletts zinging all around you. Phil

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My 1st set of orders out of Boot Camp was to Vallejo to wait on the Hanna, It should have been TI. I reported aboard a sub tender. a drunk 1st class was giving the Chief a hard time, the Chief just knocked him out and he was laying on the deck, and went back to checking me in like nothing happened. he ask if I wanted to go on liberty. heck no I just wanted a bunk. that scared me, Chiefs in boot camp were tough but they didn't knock us out. They sent me to TI, and the Hanna was in but It took a little time, I think Hanna had a skeleton crew with everone on leave. when the bus took me to the pier I couldn't belive anything that big could float, I sure minded my manners checking in on the afterbrow, I didn't want the Chief knocking me out....Charlie

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Phil, Wayne have you ever been to the Sequoia National Park in Ca. Those Redwoods were giants. I heard the one that you could drive your car blew down, Ca dose have some beautiful places, just to many people for me. I'd like go back and visit Paris Tx and see how much it has changed. the last time I was in CC It grew so much I got lost. I liked the NAS even if I did get a ticket for passing an Admiral, I learned you don't suppose to pass one. It all counts on 20, It is a long row to hoe my last couple of yrs the Military was nothing like when I 1st went in...Charlie

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My 1st post as a life member. It feels good to me, I just had to try it out. I think a lot about the future of the Association. I believe we are solid now with all our Shipmates pulling extra duty to keep it going. I like the O's input I was never around them much. they put their britches on like me. I was in Port Huneme and was PO1 sitting on a bench after just takeing my physical for re-enlistment.a new Female Ensign was trying her new powers out on a 3rd class for not saluting her I cracked up laughing. She knew not to mess with me and stomped off mad...Charlie

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Gosh Old Salt that hit me out of the blue, Who ever did it I deeply appreciate it. It's a proud honor to have. I've learned a lot from Shipmates as the Hanna changed over the yrs. no one See's her the same over the yrs. My oldest son couldn't believe I was on a Carrier with a teak wood deck that still had prop A/C on it. I had a safe home on her because I had a armor deck between me and crazy Pilots. they may have though we were going to blow the ship up in 02N2, I was more worried about the ordnance div..Charlie

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Charlie, I, and Don Yeggy, NEVER make a mistake. You are now a bonifide Life Member, courtesy of a secret admirer. You will now never have to worry about paying dues again, and IF YOU KEEP YOUR ADDRESS UP TO DATE, will get the Newsletter for the rest of your life, or until the Association goes under, whichever occurs first. Welcome Aboard Lifer #418!

Name: Charles R Ridens
Email_Address: Valhalla1@cableone.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1960-1964
Division_Squadron_Detachment: A Division
Date: 05 Sep 2010
Time: 16:30

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OldSalt, I think you made a mistake, you have me down as a new life member. I can't afford it right now until I get settled in the Naval Home. Movings not cheap. Dennis I enjoyed the pix of A/C, the b-52 and Wart Hog are among my favorites. I was a Tanker once and I sure wouldn't want one after my butt. that mini gun fires depleted uranium rounds that will make swiss chesse out of one. They never did come up with an answer of what was breaking the sound barrier down here breaking windows out at night. It did it several time in a couple weeks, mine rattled and I sat up in bed, no one festd up. Jet Jocky's:) ..Charlie

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NEW ROSTER BEING PREPARED. I am working on completing the BRAND NEW Roster, with a target date NLT 30 Sep. At present I have about 297 expired members from July 2010 who are about to be deleted. If you don't renew you will be deleted, and placed in the expired list in our data base. Act now, and keep your entry going.

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MORE LIFE MEMBERS who will never pay dues again: #416, Bill Cozart, OR(RD1), 54-55; #417 Angelo Delgrosso, E, 45-46; #418 Charlie Ridens, A(MM2)(O2N2) 60-64; #419 David Strawbridge, 3rd, 5th (LTJG), 60-62

Name: Leroy Withrow
Email_Address: withrow2009@wildblue.net
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1968-1972
Division_Squadron_Detachment: Air Depart. V-1
Date: 05 Sep 2010
Time: 08:54

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Leroy is looking for e-mail address and phone # from his shipmates from 1968-1972. If you e-mail I will pass the message on,if you call him use (541)890-7320 He would like to here from you, God Bless you all and thank you for the FREEDOM I have. His wife

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Wayne, I used to drive from Port Huneme to Fresno to visit her. we would stop in Ohi and buy avocados up in the hills real cheap. It was a pretty steep drop on the highway to the Valley. the valley was wall to wall growing things. I'm not sure what went on over the yrs. I was told once the fertilizer and pesticides were contaminating the ground water. I used to go pheasant hunting in Fresno, you don't sapose to shoot hens. how can you tell when they take off like the were lauched. They fit in my sack and were good eating....Charlie

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Charlie; it is pretty sad to see all of the land that is not being planted all along Highway 5. Most of that land doesn't even have weeds growing on it, all because of the pumps not running because they will kill the delta smelt. There have been studies done and not one group has been able to prove that the smelt is endangered or prove it worth commercially or otherwise. Phil

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My sister lives in Fresno, her husband is retired from the Sheriffs dept and Kay should retire from the the school system before long. she wants to wait until shes on SS. they bought a new home 20 miles away in a gated community to get away from the gangs and crime. John still teaches at the pistol range and works part time for the Sanger Pd. I think Kay will have 30 in, she works in admin, I worry about Ca going bankrupt and and their retirement. Mine has taken a big hit and it's federal, John retired from AF reserves so they have cards to get on a military base but she has never said anything about going on one. She's been a spoiled brat all her life..Charlie

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Environmental Impact surveys cause a lot of red tape. the Sierra Club in CA got all this started by lobbying. a Snail Darter, a little fish not as big as a minnow held up the Ten valley project for yrs and they had already started building a dam. It put many people out of work. the San Joaquin valley produced more per acre than any where on earth with irrigation. that started the flood of illegals. later it was called the land of the fruits, ti turned pro gay, and with the flow over the border they brought dope and it spread all over....Charlie

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Wayne Durfey: you won't get an argument out of me in what you are saying, I remember the Orange County Bankruptcy and when the real thing happened they had no choice but to act and get out of the situation they created to begin with. I felt the same way about the auto industry, they too should have been allowed to fix their problem or go under instead of giving them all of the the money they got. Sacramento politicians and special interest groups are the root of California's problems not to mention the problems caused by Barbara Boxer with the water not going to the farmers because of some puny fish that I don't think has any commercial value except political value to her cronnies. Phil

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Wayne, I think when a city go's bankrupt the State has to bail it out. States have Credit ratings like people. Mississippi may not have a lot of industry but our Governor and State is conservative. we have a high credit ratings and industry is moving here. because we are "Right to Work" State. they can hire or fire someone without fighting the union. we are having to lay off a bunch of non-mandatory people in our State. Haley Barbour is a good man. we won't have him after election because terms are limited. our Attorney General I dislike. Grumman is going to build a plant to build a high altitude aircraft to replace the Global Hawk by 2012. it suppose to cruise at 60 K with better optics on it....Charlie

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ANOTHER LIFE MEMBER: #415 Glenn Nettles, V-2(Cats)ABE3, 59-63.

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Wayne, it's been yrs since I've been to Ca. my son lived in town right across the bridge from Coronado. where the Seals boot camp is. he taught a Petty officer development course. all he said about the course was they weren't going to make Chief without it. they had some Gator Navy Sailors there also. there ships picked up Marines from somewhere to deploy. I loved the town. His wife and him went to work and I went walking around. I was the only guy there wearing bib overalls, Gals wore them? I ask him the evening why no one would look me in the eye. he said you don't do that because it's like a confrontation? I did find a little VFW a few blocks away and had a blast. I forgot you don't suppose to toss your aluminum membership card on the bar when she ask if I was a member. I was lucky there weren't a lot of people in there. because I had to buy the bar a round. I didn't have to pay for nothing else they bought from then on...Charlie

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Phil... I live in Mission Viejo, Cal., which is just south of Los Angeles in Orange Co. We went through a county bankruptcy a few years back and I don't know of anyone who felt any affect of that BK. Only the ones feeding out of the county government trough had a problem. I think it's time to BK California and break all of these outragiuos union contracts we're suffering under and dump all of the insider spending that keeps these bozos in Sacramento. Jefferson said that if what you're doing can't stand the light of day, it's probubly dishonest. Something to that affect. Well Sacramento needs a halogen blood bath and we'll see where the cockroaches run to get out of the light.

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I've been watching some short flicks about badgers on the net. those are one tough dude. they suppose to be up north somewhere? they have no fear. 30 lbs of C-4. I've heard of wolverines up there also. I don't know much about them but I've heard their pretty tough also. I've never seen one either. I've been to some big zoos but they never had one. I guess their a critter you can't cage up. just to guess theres not a lot of them. a Bob Cat to be not large is one bad dude couped up. theres not a dog in the world that could whip one. There was a Mexican in CC that tried to sell me one. that thing would scream wanting to fight just looking at it. it wouldn't make a good house pet. kittens may be different. when it gets big I don't think it would worry much much about dogs. they would probably run from it after 1st encounter...Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 03 Sep 2010
Time: 18:11

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Charlie, looks like earl is playing out of steam. thats good. the texas coast is waiting for the snow birds it helps their economy out. it is starting to cool down a little here too. got a little needed rain last nignt. ken

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It's been a hot summer all over. It won't be long before you snow birds will stow your lawn mowers and break out the snow shovels. It's getting a little cooler here and won't be to long before I can give my A/C a break. Oct/Nov is the best time of yr here. Humidity is way down and the end of Hurricane Season. We like Christmas but have an extra Holiday thrown in called Marti Gras in Feb. It actualy got started in Mobile Ala. but people think of New Orleans. Biloxi has one during the day for kids. and then at night for Adults. I told Toni once to get me some beads, she said I'm not pulling my shirt up to get you some beads...Charlie

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Phil In our days there I think the State alone would rate about 17th in the world economy. now it is bankrupt and shoes no sign of trying to help it's self and criticizes Arizona and boycotts it. they get power from AZ. I'd pull th plug or double the rates. PG&E used to be one of the most powerful corporations in the US. they blew it with corruption. personaly I have no sympathy. I didn't do it...Charlie

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Charlie: California is beyond hope if things don't change soon. Sacramento has not come up with an approved budget by the end of June in the last 20 years. I would say, put all legislators on furlough like all the rest of the state workers but then less that nothing would get done since we are almost there now. California is full of left wing Red Diaper Doper Babies and many other undesirables. Maybe the answer is to outsource all state legislators including the Governator Arnold.

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Phil, It upsets me also the way they do Arizona. If the Feds don't want to control it they should let each state do it and stay out of their way. Calif is beyond hope. I see nothing wrong with documented workers that are identifiable and pay taxs. our tax payers can only carry so much load on their backs. The Constitution is wrote in English you know the rest of the story, We have one flag....Charlie

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Charlie; You are right about any money that the feds get from BP or any other source goes into the general fund and we never see it again except in a stupid study as to why a cow pisses on a flat rock. Any federal building that saves lots of money on energy, lighting water etc goes into the general fund and the facility gets jack. That is the reason design build and the contractor gets paid from the savings from the utilities is so popular and the way the facility gets a benifit from the projects. Before I retired I told the higher up that they were all trying to be crapologists, don't know crap about crap but they are trying to be one. Needless to say I didn't win any points or awards but that is OK. Everyone was trying to do my job when I said I was retiring and when they ran into a problem and came looking for me. My answer was you started it, you go finish it. Beauracrats always trip over their own toes trying to prove how uninformed they are. Phil

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Charlie, The liberty launch is parked this weekend, It has been very hot up here and the fish stopped biting several weeks ago. Now we are headed camping for the weekend and it is down to the low 70's and windy with scattered rain. Go figure. Been doing some major cleanup in my garage and filled two big trash containers, sealed and painted the floor and still have to clean out my tool boxes. I have crap that has been in there 30 years plus that I need to toss. All those cars I restored sure put a lot of over spray and dust in behind everything. Dennis Dennis

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Dennis, We haven't heard much about your liberty launch and fishing. going threw in Panama Canal once we had a guy we had a guy on the ship catch a big fish when they were filling the lock. I couldn't believe it. I don't know what it was? I always loved fishing, I liked to catch sharks, I never caught a real big one but they are fun. I think the fish that gave me the biggest fight was a 60 lb caravel jack. That dude had some HP. I think I was more wore out that him after about an hr tug of war...Charlie

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After the BP oil rig I blow a relief valve at them. they have been drilling them for yrs with no problems. They have to have better quality control and a safety officer. they are perfect targets for terrorist. They are great fishing, a lot of fish go under them for shade and eat barnacle's and growth off them. The Feds step in BPs way or they would have had it sealed long before they did. they have BP at fixed bayonets now with law suits. any money will end up in DC and you know what will happen....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: .
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div, aft. eng. rm.
Date: 02 Sep 2010
Time: 17:21

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Charlie, that's good at least they know what to do to get the job done. the ones running this thing have no clue. come nov. 2 hope it get's straightten out. come 2012 hope the american people have a person that is for america. and can get us back to what america is about. ken

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Ken, at least they got the fire out on that oil rig...Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div.aft. eng. rm.
Date: 02 Sep 2010
Time: 15:40

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Charlie, you are so right. if you are crazy then i am too so thats makes two that knows what is happening. by reading coments theirs a bunch more. ken

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I hate the news anymore. all our oyster reefs are dead and now they have another explosion on a rig in Louisiana. Somethings wrong with this picture. I think the contractors need a through no BS background check on all employees. They won't block our boarders? We are paying troops to go to other country's when the basic reason to have them is to defend ours. 1 of the 2 of us is crazy, me or the White House. Thank God I'm not President. I don't think I wouldn't walk softly with my big stick. I belive in tough love....Charlie

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Phil, you would have loved the Seabees. 3 of our mechanics pitched in and bought a old VW. they got drunk and run it off into the Ocean just for fun and got the duty wrecker driver to come down where they could fish it out. they had that thing running in a week or 2. I was in the same Quonset hut with them. I was the steel worker assigned to them to do their welding on equiment. there was never a dull in that hut. Seabees don't pay much attention to rank. I out ranked most but to them it didn't matter...Charlie

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Phil when I was there they had a Marine Camp. not very many, we would get Marine Squadrons fly from RR and make bombing runs there. I think they had a SeaBee detachment there that would push all the dirt back in the craters. They weren't from my Battalion. I think a MCBMU. witch are small permanent units for maintenance and rotate men. Puerto Rico had a lot of riots when I was there. but mostly peaceful. one group tried to block the gates to RR and the Damage Control just washed them down the road with fire trucks. I liked Puerto Rico. I learned to Scuba Dive and Sail there...Charlie

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Tom, Charlie; The correct spelling of the Island is Viegues, sometimes known as the Spanish Virgin Islands. it is also nicknamed Isla Nena , meaning little Island or maybe crater Island after the Navy got done with the shelling and bombing runs. Phil

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Tom I don't know how to spell it either. I think at least 20 miles from Roosevelt Roads by mike boat. I was at RR for almost a yr and only been there once. It was a major place the Navy trained for beach assaults including squadron hitting it from RR. their was a town there. UDT would blow up dud ordnance and give the all clear to the town and they would search it for scrap metal. I don't no af anyone that didn't eat good in the Navy. by regulation CB's sapose to get a ration of 1 1/2 It didn't mean much to us but it gave the Gally more $ to spend on our chow. we didn't have to pay for work cloths because we messed so many up on the job. every one was trying to get our boot's. they were Pilots boots with steel toes of high quality leather. They were hot working in them all day but OSHA said we had to have them. I have no idea why Pilots needed steel toes 30 K ft in the air...Charlie

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Charlie, Not sure how to spell Viegus been to long since I was there. I remember operating with the Marines (sometimes around 64-65) and a bunch of cow crap. I liked to go there because the Marine field chow was better than shipboard food.

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Ken, It doesn't seem that long ago that women used "Bobbie Pins" and "Safety Pins" on diapers. you can't beat the old diapers for polishing your car. I had a couple Buddy's that one had a BSA and the other a Triumph. I think one was called a "Flash"? and the other a "Bonneville"? I rode both several times. I liked the Triumph better but don't know much about motorcycles. I had a Buddy in the B's when I was in Puerto Rico that bought a Honda. It was a nice bike but didn't have the guts the others had. I rode behind him all over the Island. there was a Quonset hut of Seals In our camp. Those idiots would be up jogging calling cadence at 03:30 in the mourning. They didn't have to circle all the huts and wake the whole camp before taking off down the road. there was a UDT team there also but I don't know where they bunked at. they both would go to Viequs island and blow things up. The Navy had a bombing range there...Charlie

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them magnetoes where good they did it all by theirself. chase oil drilling for awhile had waukesha engines on them. had a 1957 bsa 650 cc. did not need battery. good old days. ken

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Charlie, We used to do that with capacitors in HS Auto Shop, Pissed the teacher off all the time, he would get hit more than the students and he had been around a lot longer than us. When I worked in a auto repair shop we also repaired Magnetos from farm tractors, I would get a guy to hold it so I could check it out to see if it would turn over good, give it a twist and then be ready to catch it because he would toss it trying to get away when he got nailed with the spark.

Tim Allen the comedian had a good line on one of his skits. He was reading the paper and his wife came in and said "Your son is messing with the wall plug and a hairpin" He said don't worry. Then his son got nailed with the 110 volts and went scooting across the floor like a dog with worms. He said I looked at him and said "You're grounded"..........Gotta Love it. Dennis

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I read something today that High School boys in a NH School in a electrical shop class touched a wire to each of guys nipples and his heart stopped and his parent's are suing the school. How did the idiots ever live long enough to get to High School. The boy lived but may have brain damage. I think it was damaged before he took the course. I used to teach A/C in Jr College which cover electrical and basic electronics. I would charge a bunch of capacitors up and put them on thier desk before they got there. I would act like I was messing with my papers and of course they would pick them up and look them over and then a few put thier finger on the terminal and jumped up cussing saying that that damn thing got me. I said nahh hows that going to hapen it dosen't have any wires to it and then others would try it. they got hit with 60K volts but know amps to speak of. I told them you got a little harmless taste but that 220 in the shop will kill you. and went from there....Charlie

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MORE NEW LIFE MEMBERS: The following joined the ranks of those who will not have to pay dues again: #410 CAPT Allan Finley, X Div, 69-72, #411 William D. Finch, S-6 Div, 62-63, #412 AOCS William Free, X Div, 57-58, #413, Rudolph Hood, VT-6, 45, #414 Larry T. Knafel, A2 Div , 61-63.

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I received my Hanna News in the mail today, I sure enjoy reading it. I sure appreciate all the "extra duty" our shipmates do to keep the association afloat. the Hanna is remembered by more people than I though. I had to go to the VA this mourning and talked to a guy that served on a commuications ship that remembered her. I ask him if it was one of those spy ships and he said no. they relayed a lot of messages. when I saw the AR something with his ship on his hat that was the 1st thing that came to mind. I was in an elevator so didn't have much time to talk.I think the Bilox Va is going to be a major center when they get done with all the contruction. It used to be the worlds worst when I 1st got here but it's great now. I tell the Drs I have no problems and they don't jack with me where I don't take up their time. they see I'm still breathing so renew my presciptions. they would check me out if I ask them to. I'll be glad to get in the NH and get free dental....Charlie

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Wayne, I don't have a reporting date to the new Naval Home until Oct 12. I sure hope the hurricanes stay away this yr until I get checked in. the bad ones are in late Aug through Sept. we are way overdue. most are just a pain in the butt knocking the power out. Building codes here have made new construction very costly. new schools and things like that are built to be shelters. I love it here. heck other places have earth quakes, tornados, Ice storms, ect. I have a couple cases of MRE's, propane cooking stove and survival stuff in my patio shead. My apartment is on high ground and survived Katrina. Ward 9 in New Orleans what you see on TV was mostly low rental older homes that the owners are not going to invest money back into. Most was section 8 property.....Charlie

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Wayne, most TV shows New Orleans. their damage was done because the Levey on the Ms river broke. the eye actual hit in Pass Christan Ms, a 34ft storm surge came in with the winds on the east side of the eye. It was like a giant river that kept getting deeper and deeper. I was on the 9th floor of the Naval Home right by the beach. It flooded our emergency generator out and blew our water tower over. The Seabees had put metal panels over the gall on the 1st floor but the force of the surge just busted the front door open and flooded the 1st floor. when the surge went out it all kinds of stuff with it into the Gulf. It looked like a B-52 strike zone without the craters. the Gulf Coast has been slow to rebuild be cause of high insurance.....Charlie

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Charlie... Sounds like a hell of a blow kicking up in the Caribbean and moving towards the east coast. It probubly won't hit the gulf region, but after Katrina, who wants to take a chance? Your safe in the Naval residence now, I take it. This whole week they have been reliving Katrina on the news. I can't imagine any more destruction to property then what they were showing. I know a girl that was friends with a young couple from a small coastal town outside New Orleans, that had just got married prior to the storm hitting. They lost everything. I gave the guy a job out here as he was a trained plumber, and we all helped them get on their feet again. One of the local churches gave them a good used car and another group paid for their apartment. They missed their relatives and after about a year ended up moving back to Louisiana. I get a call from them every once in a while.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm
Date: 30 Aug 2010
Time: 16:02

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Charlie, been reading about your military service and life. thanks for your service. hope you enjoyed the military home. you do deserve it. give me a shout.anytime. ken

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Wayne, that water out there is sure cold. It's to warm here inside the barrier Islands. It's not real clear inside the Islands with all the silt coming out of the Ms river. salinity isn't high so it doesn't corrode much. A few miles out the Gulf has a trench thats deep and colder. thats where the charter boats go deep sea fishing. that Gulf can get dangerous in a heartbeat if you don't pay close attention to the weather. a lot of newcomers get into trouble going out to far with low transom boats and get caught in troughs and swamped from behind....Charlie

Name: Michael R. (Mike) Verville, 2nd VP USS Hancock Association
Email_Address: mverville2005@yahoo.com
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1972-1975
Division_Squadron_Detachment: AIMD/X
Date: 30 Aug 2010
Time: 07:18

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Just had this link (http://media.causes.com/576542?p_id=92681239) sent to me and thought it would be something my fellow shipmates would enjoy. There is a initial goal to send this to at least 7.5M people. I'm sure when people see it - we will far exceed that goal.

Name: Michael R. (Mike) Verville
Email_Address: mverville2005@yahoo.com
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1972-1975
Division_Squadron_Detachment: AIMD/X
Date: 30 Aug 2010
Time: 02:19

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I have an extra 1973 USS Hancock (CVA-19) Cruise Book that I purchased when I built my complete collection for the last reunion. I'm selling it for $125 (exactly what I paid for it). It is in very good condition. On E-Bay it is going for $399. I'm trying to recoup a little of the $$ I spent on my collection. Drop me an email or give me a call. BTW - I'm still working to upload the entire set so share with my fellow Hannah shipmates. Hope to complete it by the next reunion in Chicago in 2012. Yes that's a long time but uploading 300 pages 1 page at a time for each book is very time consuming -- but nothing compared to the 2,000+ hours it took to search over 1,800 online bookstores world-wide. I hope those of you who saw the collection and got electronic copies of some of your personal pictures enjoyed them. My goal is to see that no Hannah sailor ever has to pay $399 to get thier cruisebook. The books and the memories belong to the men who served.

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Charlie...My wife and I take our boat across to Catalina Island and tie up in Avalon harbor for the weekends quite often. They have sea lions that swim around in the shallow harbor near the rows of tie ups and if you're not careful, they will jump up onto your swim step and get into the boat to rummage for food. We made the mistake of luring in a baby sea lion and fed him some leftovers on the boat. BIG mistake! We left the boat to go onto the island for the afternoon and when we came back, there he was down in the cabin. They can be quite destructive when they're foraging, and their table manors are absolutely abysmal.

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Wayne, My cousin caught a small seal when he was stationed a Port Huneme. You would have to know Jerry , he took it home and put it in the bathtub. His 2 young boys were all for it. when his wife Sue got home their was hell to pay. Jerry was thinking he could keep it like a stray dog. he got it out of the tub and a kept it a couple days. he said that thing had stinking breath and I took it back to the beach. He was in the Seabee's and I think I was on the Hanna and never saw him at that time....Charlie

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Hi, Guys! Just wanted to stop by and let you all know that absolutely nothing happened today. The weather is nice here in So.Cal. but still...nothing happened! Sorry for ranting about my boredom. I guess I hate wasting a beaurtiful day just sitting around.

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Ken, Marvin Shields was in SeaBee Team 1104 with Army Special Forces in 1965. That means he was was with one of 4 teams deployed from a Battalion 11, They were at the rubber plantation as a MAG group with S Nam troops. It was a big combined push from NV regulars and VC. they sent in 173 Airborne who lost a lot of men and my unit flew it to cover medi-vac ships. but could only go in when they secured airstikes and artillery. we carried rocket pods that mission....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal..net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958=1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng rm.
Date: 28 Aug 2010
Time: 17:03

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sorry Charle, see what they are saying. it's a award giving annuly in honor of Marvin Shields. later ken.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 28 Aug 2010
Time: 16:19

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Charlie, read a little about Marvin Shields and Jesse Scherer. they are talking about iqua and aftganistan. goggle said Marvin received the medal of honor. and the great job both men did. hey how are you doing. ken

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USS Marvin Shields FF1066, the only ship named after a SeaBee. He was a 3rd class that got killed wining the Medal of Honer in Vietnam....Charlie

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Dennis, I have no idea how you got that engine in that Volvo. I had a cousin that had a blue one. It was a tough little nut and reminded me of a 48 Ford in body style. his was new at the time. he lived in Dallas. you never seen foreign cars in Paris....Charlie

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Wayne, I know they had a lot of Cobras, they were trying to sell stuffed ones in a lot of places. I remember the 3 wheeled rickshaws. I just walked around to get out of our hotel room. I didn't go to any bars, I had my Gal with me and we ate at a little place. We stopped by a place that sold jewelry and she would bargain the price. they had so many big stones in them they looked unreal but she told me it was a bargain. I bought several of them pretty cheap for my wife. When I got back to the States I took my wife with me down to have them checked out. He went crazy, he looked at them in that little spy glass and said I have never seen so many rubys of this size in one place. you even have blue ones that are hard to find. My wife had him make more rings out of them in better gold. When she died I gave them to Mom, She loved them and when she died she gave them to my sister that introduced me to Sarah to start with. Is't it funny how some things go in circles..Charlie.

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Wayne I got married my last yr on the Hanna, I had to put a special request chit in to do so. She was from Fresno. I never discussed Liberty with her. I just rode around on the Hanna for 6 mos and came home. She knew better but never brought it up. She was PG with my oldest son when when we we shifted colors. she staid with my Mom while I was gone. I think she knew Sailors had their recreation while overseas but it wasn't like she was going to lose me over some gal. She knew me pretty good. and stuck by me faithful for 16 yrs before she died of Spinal Meng. I think she caught it in a crowd when I took her to a Mardi Gras parade. it was fast, 2days later I had to pull Sgt of the Guard at the CB base and told her I wouldn't be home that night and she said she was going back to bed that she thought she had the flu. they called me form the hospital and the Dr had her on life sauport and didn't know if she was dead or not...Charlie

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Charlie... Ahhhh, Bangkok! What an interesting town. Ever visit Cleopatra's Spa? Nuff said. While walking thru town we were constantly accosted by the three wheeled rickshaw drivers. I swear we must have had the word "Pigeon" tattooed on our foreheads! The Pat Pong was a sailor's dream, with all the clubs and floor shows that part of town had. Thank God I wasn't married then. We stayed at the Sheraton Hotel out by the airport and we found out that the #1 driver for the hotel was the former chauffeur for the commander of the air base at Ubon. We wanted to go to the beach village of Pattaya south of Bangkok. That town has two main streets with open air night clubs that you had to walk through to get to the beaches. Most of those clubs were owned by foreign military retirees who married local girls to be able to own property. Those girls were treated like queens and the bar owners went fishing all day long on one of the owner's yacht. What a life!

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Dennis, I was thinking the same thing about the VW, way to much weight in the front. those tailpipes must be for looks? their way to small for an engine like that. I sure enjoyed the pics of the Chevy, mine was black also with a white top. that black is hard to keep clean. Dad got it at a bargain because he knew nothing about a 3/4 race cam and told the salesman he was going to have to give it a valve job. The previous owner put a lot of money into it. It had a 4 main bearing block and the dipstick was in the wrong place to be the original engine. I knew a 55 dosen't have a 4 bl carb and it had the big heads on it. It could have been a souped up vet engine...Charlie

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Wayne, that was a small block Chevy and I believe it was a stroker which made it some where a 383CI engine, that plus the blower on it and being in a VW bug it was a pretty awesome car, But not enough weight to keep it on the ground so it spun the wheels a lot on take off. Dennis

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Dennis... That was the coolest VW I think I have ever seen! What size was the V8 under the hood? The other cars were beautiful too. A friend of mine and I ride our motorcycles to the various car shows that we have here in Southern California, and it always amazes me the level of perfection that some of these guys attain in rebuilding these wrecked old hulks. The Good Guys rod and custom show that they have at the Del Mar racetrack is my favorite show. You can spend two days at that show and not see all of the cars. I fell in love with a hunter green, 1938 Chevy coupe with a 455 Olds engine in it. The sound that motor made was music to the ears. I asked the owner what he could sell it for and he told me, "About $10,000.00 less then it cost me to build it."

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng rm.
Date: 26 Aug 2010
Time: 16:41

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Helmut, Pete, and everybody. just didn't get togeather before i sent it and xo ken.

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charlie, phil, wayne,dennis,wayne2 hey i enjoy reading ya'll post. can't really get into because i don't know. keep it going. when i wake up in morning first thing i do is see what you guys are saying. it's all good. later ken.

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My great grandfather moved to Paris Tx because E Tx really had a cotton boom. when he was young and left his Dad and mom in Ok and met my great grandmother and thats where my Dad and the rest of the family are from. The have all died off and my cousins son and my sons kids are about all that are left to carry our name. for some reason the Ridens had a lot of Girls. at least they produced a lot of blonds and redheads to make people misrable....Charlie

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Phil, my Great Great Grandfather was a guard on the Ft Sill reservation. He took a Comanche Squaw and went to Stepenville Tx. He was Scandinavian. my Great Grand mother was from Ms and didn't like My Great Grand Father talking about our Indian blood. She thought it was shameful. Her Dad was a riverboat Cap. on the Ms river. Her dad brought her to Tx because many yrs after the Civil War, Ms had a hard time recovering. My Great Great Grand Father took her and they moved to Madil Ok and he opened up a successful leather shop...Charlie

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Charlie: The Taos area is considered high desert country as it is at 7,000 foot elevation and used to have cheap land but not anymore. All of the Indian reservation in the area are part of the Anassazi pueblo dwellers and each has their own Casino, so if you go there and miss the exit, don't worry there is another at the next exit sometimes within sight. I believe there are 17 pueblos in the northern part of the state. The Taos pueblo group is called Tewa. I have a little native American in me from both side of the family as well as German and Spanish. Maybe that is why I tend to go on the warpath every now and then, the good part is it usually only last about 20 minutes. The Taos area is now full of the Hollywood idiot crowd and left over hippes from the 60's plus a whole covey of artists

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Dennis, thanks for the pics, I really enjoyed the DVDs. I got a much welcomed e-mail from Jim. he wasn't feeling real good. Sometimes I think I'd feel better if I trashed mine. they make me sleepy and knock the wind out of my sails. I think I'm going to cut down gradually and see what differance it makes. Drs have a pill for everything....Charlie

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Phil, many yrs ago I got a thing in the mail from a land developer selling blocks of land not to far from Taos. I think they were about 20 acres of undeveloped land that had roads pushed but no water. It was cheap but water was my concern. It was desert surrounded by mountains. I've never been there. I think Chief was from Albuquerque. His Dad had a pawn shop but died and his brothers ran it. what tribe is there? I don't think the city was very big then. I liked him, he loved to barter. He could have went out and got his own seashells if he wanted. I think it was more like a poker game to us. He did take his Indian Heritage serious but a happy go lucky guy if something didn't put him on the warpath. but we're all that way....Charlie

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Charlie: you are right on the money, New Mexico Chiefs are hard to swap or barter or even buy anthing from unless the get to know you or perhaps a few beers won't hurt. I am at the Northern part of the state 130 miles North of Albuquerque, in the ancient town of Taos where Kit Carson roamed during his hey day. I inherited the property from my uncle which used to be by great, great grandfather's. It is real quiet and peaceful there with an ocassional visit from bears and coyotes at night but be on the lookout for rattle snakes during the day. Phil

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Wayne, I didn't have but a week R&R in Thailand I didn't travel around much. I looked around Bangkok some. after 6mos on Diego stuck with Seabees It was good to see there was other people still left on earth. There was 4 of us and we all rented separate rooms in an conditioned hotel and didn't see much of each other. we were on the 2nd floor and got together drinking beer with our gals and there was a pool below us. us guys dove off into the pool a couple times and the manager came out raising Cain with us. I couldn't understand a word the little guy was saying but he got his point across. One B had an English gal.we were all brown from the sun and she was white as printer paper. I thought she was a little weird but she probably thought we were nuts....Charlie

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Charlie... Whenever I go into another country, it takes me about three days to get used to the levels of poverty I see. Thailand was probubly the worst that I saw, out in the country side anyways. The kids are the ones that put me in line with the normal way of things. They have no idea how bad they have it, but they're all smiling! It doesn't take much to make their day. Trinkets that you give them put them in the tall cotton. Sticks of street vendor bar-b-cue work well, since lack of food is probubly their biggest problem. After about three days I feel like Santa Claus. You do have to watch them though. When they're crowding around you, you can get your pocket picked.

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2010 Membership Expirations. Above your name on the address label of the Hannah Newsletter is a statement saying when your membership expires. I have already sent out over 200 e-mails to those who have an address reminding them. I will be sending postcard reminders to those who don't have e-mail. Bottom line is, if you don't renew your membership, The Sep issue of the Newsletter wil be your LAST ONE! $20 is a small price to pay for membership, when you consider you get TWO years, 8 Newsletters, and of course, can come to the mini-reunions or bi-annual reunions. You also have access thru me to names and addresses of your old shipmates, if they are are or were members. There are no new HANCOCK sailors being made, so it is up to us, the old guys, to keep the name of our ship alive, and remember all of the shipmates we served with. Come on guys, give a little help to the handful of us who are working daily to keep this associaton alive.

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NEW MEMBERS since those listed in the Sep Newsletter: Greg Braunig, OI, RD3, 66-70; Robert Parmacek, Ops, LTJG, 54-55; Joe Stevens, VA-212, ADJ3, 73-74; Thomas Trukawinski, E(EM1), 54-57. If you want their contact information before the December Newsletter, e-mail me at the above address. Welcome aboard shipmates.

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MORE LIFE MEMBERS AND NEW MEMBERS. The following new Life Members will never have to be bothered again about paying dues: #407 Roy Lucas, VF 124, 55-56; #408 Frank Ramerez, B 54-55; #409 Dan Haggerty, Weps/Nav, YN3, 72-75. Check out the Sep Newsletter to see the FIFTY ONE (51) new Life members in the past 3 months. Why not you?

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Phil, my Indian buddy was hard to swap with until we got a bunch of beers in us, He would get mad the next day because I beat him. but would come for some more swapping until I ended up with all his turquoise. That man could carve. we had the only sea hut with a tot-um pole and New Mexico Indians don't even have them. everone called him Chief and he was a 2nd class builder, our Chief even called him Chief...Charlie

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Phil, where are you going in New Mexico, I've driven threw it many times yrs ago and liked it. We had an Indian in the CB's that was from there, he had several large medicine bottles with polished turquoise in them. I would break out my box of seashells I had found. I made a little box of rabbit wire and bury it and let the ants clean them out....Charlie

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Charlie: you should have had that rebar cage shipped stateside as we now have plenty of nutjobs cases we could be putting in it , of course it would probably have to be put in dry dock for a major overhaul and enlargement to fit today's world. Phil

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Rob: I know you said not to respond until after 15 Sept but I most likely won't be around my computer around that time as I will be in New Mexico for a couple of months. We spent the longest at sea period because of the Ranger. I will side with you buddy on the Midway but at least you got a benifit out of it being bldg 61, can't beat a cold Asahi. I worked on the Midway 3 years as a civilian at Hunters pt. during it's overhaul. The Ranger is going to Oregon as a museum. have a good time in Seattle. Phil

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Wayne, I put 4 yrs fleet, 5 Army and 11 Seabees and had to go to boot camp in each, I thought I was going to have enough time in boot camp to retire. Boot camp was a lot easier on me mentally after leaving the Hanna because I knew what they were doing. Jungle Warfare In Panama was the hardest. AF desert survival at Edwards was a cake walk. Seabees go to Camp Shelby for crew served weapons qualifications. they also go to Camp Pendleton and train with Marines. I had already been threw tanker school at Ft Hood and the Marines were telling us how to knock a tank out with a LAW. I told him I might knock a school bus out with one but I ain't going to PO no tank off, you guys would charge one with fixed bayonets. LAW means Light Armored Weapon....Charlie

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Wayne In hind sight I liked the Hanna the best, The Army the least, I liked the SeaBees a lot. they sent us to places to build facilities prior to the Navy or Marines moving in. Diego Garcia is a little coral atoll 3 degrees S of the equator in the middle of the Indian Ocean. It's owned by the Britt's and used to be a coconut plantation. I think we have a 99 yr lease on it. The bad part about it was we were the only ones there and it was 1400 miles from the nearest woman.my 1st job was to make a small cage out of #9 rebar they lined with mattress's in case someone went nuts. I've never heard of them useing it.....Charlie

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Charlie... I'm curious. Which part of the different branches of service was your favorite? I would think it may have been the SeaBees, but maybe not. You speak a lot of Diego Garcia. That's just a high spot in the middle of the ocean, isn't it? I thought that it was a British base.

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Wayne, I saw a documentary on TV about slave children in Thailand that was very disturbing. But back to subject didn't Air America with was CIA fly into Bangkok during Nam. I met a Marine that was in Vietnam working some of the delta a long time after I left and is moveing back with his wife and 2 kids. He speaks the language....Charlie

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Wayne I'm thinking It was my 2nd trip to Diego Garcia in about 75 when I was there. all us round eyes had to wear civilian clothes so really you didn't know who you were talking to for real. The Bs were pushed to get Diego finished to relive Military communication stations in a lot of places. After we got the Communications building constructed civilians came in and put their electronics stuff in and that part was restricted. I guess they got enough satellites up to do away with the U-2s...Charlie

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Charlie... I was in Thailand in March of "86 for two weeks. While in Bangkok, I ran into a DEA agent in a joint called the Fire Cat Club in Pat Pong. He used to go on recon trips into North Vietnam durring the war and decided that he couldn't go home to the world afterwards. He joined the Drug Enforcement Agency and told his wife good bye and went into drug interdiction in the Golden Triangle. He was recuperating from a knife wound when I met him, but I think he had more to worry about from his girl friend who caught him butterflying in another club and was out to cut his gonads off.

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Ken, we've been getting enough rain. I've got all the paperwork done to get back into the Naval Home but going threw all the papers I have on hand sorting and throwing out what's not important to keep anymore is a pain. I sure miss my sons GF that would take care of all that. She knew more about my business than I did. I'm not much of a paper work type of guy. I'll be happy to get back in the Naval Home and start a new life and and let their HQ worry about it. Theres not much I can do until I get my room. I drag stuff out and stuff in back in somewheres noing I'm going to have to do a lot of down sizing. I keep wanting to get rid of stuff and my son say's he might want it. I was going to get rid of my Kevlar CB vest and he said he wanted it. . my genuine imitation Viking sword the Home won't let me have. everything will fall in place in time. my most concern is CuJo, that's going to break my heart. She's on the patio barking running the VC off....Charlie

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Rob, I remember the AMC's. I was thinking about muscle cars on was on the drag strip in the late 50"s and through the 60's when I used to go to the Drag strip or the streets of Paris TX. We had a Drag Strip it Paris and a NHA association sanctiond one in Caddo Mills TX not to far off. I was more into the sportsman class that were street leagl. I had a pretty hot 55 Chevy, I run it a couple times on the strip but I seen to many blow their engines or rear ends to keep punishing it....Charlie

Name: ROB MORIS
Email_Address: 2rnk1612@cox.net
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1957 - 1958
Division_Squadron_Detachment: VA 116
Date: 24 Aug 2010
Time: 16:47

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Phil Torres, yours of 8/23. Dont knock Bldg 61. I was aboard her for that one. She should never have left Alameda. We had 2 boilers most of the way to Subic. we lost 1 of them. Think top speed was 14 kts. No inspection in Hawaii because of it. As I remember 2 weeks at Subic getting the 2nd boiler back on line then to Yokosuka. think we were there for 6 weeks while the yard workers overhauled all of them. The squadrons were sent to Atsugi and self and buddy were left aboard to guard [?] spaces. The Olympics were on and all we had to do was to ask welfare for tickets we wanted, any venue. All it cost us was the train fare to them. And the cost of our Asahi. Had a buddy on the Midway, he still hasen't forgiven me for their extension to cover us. Am just about the door for a trip to Seattle so please hold your replies until after Sept 15 thanks. Smooth sailing Shipmates! Rob

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HAVENT BEEN HERE FOR A BIT . SEE THAT I NEED TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS - DENNIS, re; yours of 8/21. the Hudson "Terraplane" also had a gated [ " H " letter shifter on the right side of the steering column, in 1937. Shift lever was only about 1 1/2 in hi. Think maybe also in 36 but not sure of that. Believe it was cable operated. Made 2 trip from Kerrville Texas to San francisco in the 37. had sucide doors , dont open them while crusing ! CHARLIE, re; yours of 8/21. don't forget one of the first production cars in the muscle brackets. The AMC Rambler REBEL, and the AMC MADATOR. Bobby Allison drove the Madator in NASCAR races in 1975. continued _ _ - -- -

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Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div.aft. eng. rm.
Date: 24 Aug 2010
Time: 15:05

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charlie, everything got quite. don,t know about old miss. old tex. has got hot and dry. heck we should be used to that at 70. end of aug. got your stuff ready to go too naval home? bet you do and counting the days. later ken

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Wayne, When we were in the yards in Bremerton the lagers had dust flying everywhere. We didn't have any superheated steam in the 02 plant but used steam to gas of lox for guys to fill cylinders in the hangerbay. the steam lines would knock when we opend the valve to use it until the line heated up. I didn't go to Thailand until after Nam fell and was in the B's. they flew us to Utapow where the AF had U2's. and went to Bancock from there on R&R from Diego Garcia...Charlie

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Helmut...I never knew that a steam line break ever happened on the Hancock. When we were in Hunter's Point in '71 for a refit, we were taking apart those main steam lines and finding some pretty thin places in the steel. Also steam cuts in the metal flange connections and partially blown out flex-seals. I KNOW that I was covered in lagging debris(Asbestos?). I keep waiting for that shoe to drop. Boiled cockroaches are a delicacy in some countries. In Thailand, they have street vendors that have a large burlap sack under their rolling woks. The sacks are full of live grasshoppers. They dump a hand full of these live grasshoppers into boiling oil. The grasshoppers come out of the oil bright red and the locals eat them like french fries. I kept loosing my appetite on the way to restaurants while passing these carts.

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Phil, I believe it was a festive atmosphere and strains of La Cucaracha could be heard.

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Helmut That does bring back memories of the 600 lb steam line giving way, I believe it was in #2 boiler rm. I had been onboard about three months.Some of the deck plates buckled, the tile in the mess deck area popped up and of course some of the phone and power cables going through the area melted. We dropped anchor and floated for a couple of day until the steam line was repaired while the destroyers escorts circled around us. The repairs were done on the spot, unlike when something went wrong with Bldg 61 aka, USS Ranger CVA 61. I'M wondering, did any politician ever launch an environmental impact study to find out if the cockroaches died in a humane way, maybe they injested asbestos fibers from the 9 x 9 floor tiles or suffered heat stroke before doing the dying cockroach dance.

Name: Tim Mullen
Email_Address: timcathy_mul@msn.com
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 64-66
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V-2 AG
Date: 23 Aug 2010
Time: 09:07

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The daughter of Reynaldo "Rabbit"Navarro contacted me too. I looked him up in the 64-65 cruisebook. He worked in S-6 because that is what group I had a picture of him. I sent an email to the two s-6 shipmates who are members. If they reply to her, that is there business. I got a reply from her saying it wasn't him, but when you look at the photo and the photo she sent, they sure look the same. It is possible that he was there in 64-65 and then got himself out of S-6 to the more interesting place, the flight deck, for the 65-66 cruise.

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Wayne Durefy, your Aug.22 post about venting the engine room brought back memories. In May 1965 I was TAD to S-3 Div. and worked in the laundry. We were steaming to Pearl from Subic Bay when a steam line burst in the boiler room below the laundry. All the Snipes bailed out and secured the hatch. We kept working in the laundry for another couple of hours until the deck plates got too hot to stand on. Hancock drifted for a day or two. I always wondered who vented the engine room. It must have been like dropping a lobster into a boiling pot. When the steam vented it peeled the paint off the galley bulkheads and killed all the cockroaches.

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Wayne, I live between 2 Military bases. The young Military people are really well trained on hi-teck stuff, even grunts. the only gripes I've heard was they don't like the way our Gov is run. We are a very divided Country, "We The People" are not listened to in DC. Our troops are deployed to long into Nation Building. Vietnam is a lot better off now since we got out. we can't force our ways on them no more than one State can force it's way of life on another. I'd like them to send a few Battalions of Sea Bees and Marines to clean up our own border and when they got done with the drug cartels they could go to the beer tents beat the crap out of each other:)....Charlie

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Wayne to me we got ourselves trapped into a Religious War. We should have let Iraq kick Iran's butt many yrs ago. and let the whole bunch have their Civil War. the UN keeps getting us into these messes. Their plan is to bankrupt us like Reagan did the Soviet Union with star wars. Our Country is flooded with "dope" they don't call it "smart" for a reason...Charlie

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That would be great XO, hope I'm in the Navy Home when you and Gay do, It will impress y'all with all the facility's it has for us Vets....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng rm.
Date: 22 Aug 2010
Time: 14:53

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David, welcome, some of us get a little rodie sometimes but come aboard. the Hanna was a special ship. ken

Name: David L. Gjestson
Email_Address: gjestson@yousq.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1964-67
Division_Squadron_Detachment: W-Division
Date: 22 Aug 2010
Time: 14:33

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Looking for shipmates. Fun hearing from Tinoco and Roberts. CDR. Barnes, Simon, Gros, where are you? Lately, the daughter of Reynaldo "Rabbit"Navarro contacted me looking for anyone that knew her dad. He was a deckhand (AN) serving about 65-66. Anyone know this guy?

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Gay and I will try to make Branson next year. Charlie, it has been my intention to stop by and see you if I ever travel that way again.

Name: Henry A. McCormick
Email_Address: henry.mccormick82@gmail.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1961-1964
Division_Squadron_Detachment: B-Div.#4&1 Firerooms
Date: 22 Aug 2010
Time: 12:43

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The air comming out of our supply air vents was 100 deg. f. We burned bunker c fuel oil, so our furnace temp., was close to 3000 deg. f .. The saturated steam temp. was 490 deg. f., the superheated steam temp. was between 700-850 deg. f . Most everything we toutched, was so hot , we used gloves or rags to protect our hands. All fluids used in the Boilers were pre-heated. I think, 130 deg. f. space temp. is a reasonable answer. On the 62 cruise, I almost had a heat stroke firing cats, because no air was flowing, or not enough was flowing by me.Memories, Cheers, Mack

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 22 Aug 2010
Time: 12:31

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Wayne Erven, hope to make it to Branson. i did get seavey/ shorevey after about a day. but if my chief and i go to branson you still need to explain. i think maybe its when you come aboard or depart. did enjoy you putting my bain cells back in motion. it is getting very hot down here with no rain. ken

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Bill Miller... Welcome aboard! On the war de jure, I had an interesting conversation with a young fellow who didn't think he should have to go to Iraq with his marine detachment. He told me that it was Bush's war and not his.(deja vu, eh?) At the end of his rant, I told him that it was just his turn. No one wants to go to war, especially the grunts. All we can do is hope that the people running the show know something that we don't and in the end, your life won't be wasted. If we are successful, there will be a couple of free baby democracies in the middle of the most troublesome part of the world. It will take the demise of this generation, in that region, to allow the children to learn a new way to live. Out with the old, in with the new. What would the world look like without the threat of Muslim terrorists? We were fairly successful in Japan and Germany, but it certainly didn't happen over-night.

Name: Wayne Durefy
Email_Address: waynedurfey@yahoo.com
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1971-1974
Division_Squadron_Detachment: M div.
Date: 22 Aug 2010
Time: 09:22

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My GQ station was repair party #5, located in a passage way just above the forward engine room. They told us that, in the event of a main steam line break in the engine room, once the steam pressure was isolated from the space we were to send one man down the escape trunk to the lower level of the engine room. He was to open the hatch to allow cross ventilation to vent out the live steam and allow for the re-manning of the engine room. Of course this would fry the poor bastard that went down the trunk the moment the hatch on the lower level was opened. Could never figure out who came up with that brillant procedure.

Name: Bill Miller MR/2
Email_Address: BillMJM@aol.com
Association_Member: .
Years_Aboard: 1968-1972
Division_Squadron_Detachment: A-Div. mach.shop
Date: 22 Aug 2010
Time: 08:24

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To all my shipmates, I wish you all fair winds & trailing seas. And we thought our war was stupid, I guess some people never learned.

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To all my shipmates, I wish you all fair winds & trailing seas. And we thought our war was stupid, I guess some people never learned.

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Tom,Old Salt, I should be all settled in at the Navy Home by Nov, I'll have to count my penny's for the mini, reunion. It will be a lot cheaper living there. 35% of my gross income, no light bill and has a galley. I sure would like to meet some of you guys....Charlie

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Ken 115 degrees in engine rooms is not an exageration, boiler rooms 120 degrees no doubt, IC Men had to go behind the boilers to set super heater alarms and that was right next to hell in temperature. You couldn't stay back there more that 2 minutes and someone else had to try their luck until the alarms were set. Checking and cleaning salinity cells was a good job to straighten out wise ass IC sailors. I had one guy learn that lesson eventually. I had my share of time spent in boiler and engine rooms with all of the IC equipment in those spaces. Phil

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BRANSON REUNION: For those interested in Branson MO mini reunion, send your name and contact info to Tom Boring, so he can make up a mailing list. I'll be there. Will even buy a couple of cases of beer for the hospitality room (or maybe something else). See ya in M0. Ken, Charlie, and Mac, wanna meet the Old Salt in the flesh? Ken, I'll teach you all about Seavey/Shorvey. Everyone, this is your chance for a Mid-West mini reunion to warm up for the Chicago reunion in 2012. It'll be great! See ya there.

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Tom Boring:

Looking forward to Branson. God willing, we will be there and encourage as many of our shipmates as possible to join us.

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Mack, how hot did it get in fire rms. Wayne said about 115 in eng. rms. ken

Name: Henry A. McCormick
Email_Address: henry.mccormick82@gmail.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1961-1964
Division_Squadron_Detachment: B-Div#4&1 Firerooms
Date: 21 Aug 2010
Time: 16:10

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Thanks, Tom Boring, for the information on the mini-reunion next year. Several of us have an interest. Talk about hot in the hole, we put stage board's in our furnaces, to stand on , when cleaning firesides, to keep from burning our feet. The back wall would still be a dark red, when we went in-side. We also wore two sets of dungrees, to keep the hot water from burning us, as we water washed the tubes. That is how we removed the scale. Our clothes always turned white with salt, due to the extreme heat. Memories, Cheers, Mack

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Dennis I think the race to start building mussel cars got on the planing board Studebaker's Hawk and Chevy came out with that Power Pack 283 in 56 with the big heads and 4 bl. I'm thinking it was a 61 Plymouth that was the ugliest car known to man.My Dad used to call a 59 Impala a bat mobile...Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 21 Aug 2010
Time: 14:33

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Dennis, my aunt in Hondo that passed away 10 days ago. she has one plymounth or dodge with the push button shift on left side of dash. had a slant 6 in it. people in town would tell my aunt why don't you get rid of that old car. she would tell them i do have the money to do that. i like my old stuff. ken

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The Chrysler push button drive mounted on the dash was hooked to a cable that worked the transmission and they had very little trouble with it. The old 1936 Cord had a stubby lever on the steering column with a gated switch (like a shift pattern) and you would shift the transmission with that, I never looked underneath to see what the switch controlled but the button idea was not a new one for automobiles. Dennis

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Charlie, Ford came out with the Edsel to compete directly with the Oldsmobile and lower end Buick that GM had. I think that "Horse Collar" grill is what helped kill it. As the cars got several years old one of the big problems is the push buttons would work small motors or servos on the transmission to shift it. They would get wet and up North get salt in them causing all kinds of grief for the owners. Just like the retractable hardtops, too many servos and motors that had to work in correct sequence or it would fail and no one but the dealer had anyone that knew how to work on them. Now those that still own them know how to fix their own. Dennis

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Helment I sat in a new Edsel a new car show I'm thinkin in 9/57 when all the new cars that when all 58's were unvailed to the public. It was a 2dr hardtop, it was ugly as a cowpatty. it had a hot engine and the the 1st thing that struck me was was the push button drive in the center of the stearing wheel. all the cars came out with dual headlights. It was a high $ car. I think it had mostly Mercury running gear. I wish Chevy would have just upgraded their 57's.....Charlie

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Charlie... The reason MM's were such a critical rate was that no one wanted to spend their carreer in a 115 degree engine room. Thank God for the main exhuast vents above the turbines! They sucked a lot of hot air out of those spaces...and not just the watch supervisors sea stories. (Are you out there Tony Palomino?) We had a 150 lbs auxilary steamline flex gasket start leaking and the temperature shot up to over 130 degrees untill we located it. We stood 15 minute watches and pumped down water and salt tablets like they were candy. When I took off my shirt, it stood up in the corner from the hardened salt when it dried out. I can't imagine what a main steam line rupture would be like, but I bet it's the closest think to hell you could experiance.

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To Wayne Durfey, The netting was steel cable so it was flexible and it went across the front edge and also around the launch ramps at the bow. From there you could watch dolphins or flying fish when they would run with us and Yes it was a very quiet peaceful place to ride especially when we were cruising up between the PI Islands because it was at a much slower speed than usual. Having a second degree sunburn in that heat and humidity was not something you ever want to experience but it does teach you a good lesson. Dennis

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Charlie, CC sounds like a good place to have the 2013 Mini-reunion. Thanks for the suggestion.

TOM BORING

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Tom I always wished they would have one aboard the Lex In CC where the XO is. I would like to go aboard a Carrier again, It's not landlocked and Sailors can see water. I haven't been there for yrs but loved it when I was. I've had it on my mind for a while to fly back there with Toni when she comes to visit.....Charlie

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A post was made regarding a mini-reunion being held at BRANSON, MO. YES, it is going to happen. The REUNION is scheduled for MAY 10-14, 2011. Brief details in September Hanna News Full Detaills in December Hanna News including registration forms. Our own USS Hancock BRANSON Mini-Reunion Web Site is coming which will be evolving and provide updated information. This reunion is not a part of the regular Hancock Association Reunion.

TOM BORING

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 20 Aug 2010
Time: 18:44

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can't get no better, ya'll the people that was on the fightin Hanna. going to bed ken

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm
Date: 20 Aug 2010
Time: 18:23

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Helmut, i wish i owned one when they came out us young ones would make fun of their grill. their was a lot of jokes. at least it was honest. have you heard of a mini reurion in bronson. have a good nite ken

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Ken, I think she was always ready to get underway unless she went cold iron in the yards or home port. we had 3 section liberty so 2/3 of the crew would be aboard. when we went 2 section libery 1/2 could beat feet. but we still didn't have 1/2 a crew because we burned up leave time and that didn't count for numbers aboard.I went through pads of secial requst chits for 72's. Chife didn't care because we were shut down as long as someone was around to watch over the 02 space. It was a resticted area with a sign on the hatch and all we had to do was lock it up. In the yards the sand crabs took it over and we would just be in the way...Charlie

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Edsels were made by Ford. The two expensive models were made on Mercury assembly lines and the two cheaper models were made on Ford assembly lines. They were sold in Mercury showrooms.

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Helmut, still looking at edsels, very good pictures, can't remember where they made by gm or ford? sorta looks like my 60 impala. ken

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 20 Aug 2010
Time: 16:31

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Charlie, she was always ready for sea duty even in port. i know she kept 1 gen. going maybe more don,t know.don,t know a hoe lot but i think she could depart in a short time. think you and dennis. had that happen. i never did. ken

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Welcome aboard Robert, enjoy the cruise. Hanna was a big Gal and put a lot of yrs in, I really enjoy listening to Shipmates in different Dept's tell thier views during thier time. I was aboard her in easy times. Dennis thanks for the dvd's, I know what I'll be doing tonight....Charlie

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Dennis I tried to get as much sunlight as possible. The fire rooms by nature were a hot dirty job. I thought they had the worst on the ship. that's why so many crossed over to MMs and wanted into A div or the engine room. My crow had a ships screw on it but I didn't have anything to do with with main propulsion. MMs were a critical rate and coverd a broad area of jobs, I made rate rapid fire because there were no shore duty billits and they were stuck at sea forever. of course you had to pass your practical factors and take the fleet exam. I studied the 3&2 hard because I was working in a field that had to doubletime to keep up with the rest of the rate. very few of them ever saw the inside of a 02 plant...Charlie

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Dennis... The netting that went around the flightdeck was steel, wasn't it? I remember on my first cruise that we were comming into the P.I. and we were about a half day out of Subic. I had never been to the Philippines before, so I slid down the round-down on the front of the flight deck and stood in the net, leaning back onto the round down. It was probubly the prettiest part of that cruise, sailing down between the islands on both sides of the ship. No noise, just wind and the clear sunshine. I burned second degree over half of my body that day and didn't realize it was happening. My first time ashore in Olongapo and I was miserable.

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Ray, It sound's like you have some much needed info that someone was looking for. during my days I don't think we ever had to take on ordnance at sea, that stuff is heavy, I was on a working party once in SF bay when they brought it to us on barges. those coffee cans the sidewinder missle explosives were in were passed in a chain gang. the bombs were put on the flight deck by crane. I have no idea about the nukes...Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div.aft. eng. rm
Date: 20 Aug 2010
Time: 13:23

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Wayne Ervin, you might be right. i looked at deceased members. their is Earl Wright and a James Wright, maybe the chief and 1st.class had same last names. i think my 1st class was James, they both passed away in 07 5 months apart. Dennis i felt for the BT's also had to stand gen. watch sometimes they where in the fire rms it was hot down their even if we where not at sail. ken

Name: RAYMOND SIMKUNAS
Email_Address: raysim47@yahoo.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 67/71
Division_Squadron_Detachment: B DIV/ ADIV
Date: 20 Aug 2010
Time: 12:12

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TO S KIP520@YAHOO.COM I WAS ON BOARD WHEN THIS INCIDENT HAPPENED.WE COOLIEDED WITH THE FAST COMBAT SUPPORT SHIP USS CAMDER AOE2 WHILE TAKING ON STORES AND AMMO WE LOST TWO AIRCRAFT CI TRADER/ F8 CRUSADER . IWAS WALKING THROUGH THE HANGER BAY WHEN THIS OCCURED.THE HOSE LINES GOT TANGLED WITH TWO AIR CRAFT IN THESTARBOARD SIDE BOTH AIRCRAFT LANDED ON THE BOMBS BEING SENT OVER TO OUR SHIP THE CI WAS UPSIDE DOWN AND THE F8 WAS ON TOP . IHEARD BOTH AIR CRAFT WERE REPAIIRED. I HAVE A PICTURE SOMEWHERE IN MY FILE.

Name: Robert S. Schoch
Email_Address: bobs3581@yahoo.com
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1963-1965
Division_Squadron_Detachment: Supply-6
Date: 20 Aug 2010
Time: 12:08

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Avation Supply Dept.

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Kenneth, I got to thinking about sleeping on the catwalk and then I thought you probably looked like a waffle iron when you got up. The good thing about that and the net we slept in under the ramp was you got a real nice breeze when we were in the PI which was a lot more than below decks. I used to feel very sorry for the BT's when they would come up for chow and were pale as a ghost and sometimes had big boils on their backs from plugged sweat glands. Made me glad I was up on the top decks. Dennis

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Ken you left about the time I came aboard...Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div.aft.eng. rm.
Date: 20 Aug 2010
Time: 07:59

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Wayne Erven, thanks for info.. when i left Hanna in june of 60 at that time Earl Wright was our 1st. class MM i think promotion where being made at that time. our CMM name was hensley henderson are something like that. do not remember Seavey/Shorevey. ken

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Wayne, I pulled a couple burial details In the Army, Taps already had people crying and when we fired our weapons in salute the kin would flinch. we had M14's. Do you have a way to see what ever happen to MMC Atwood. he was one heck of a great guy, I don't know much about him but he taught me how to play chess. I wish I wasn't afraid to sneek an Ivory chess set aboard in Hong Kong....Charlie

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My experience with Chiefs is if you gave them a honest days work and tried not to mess up to bad they would cover your butt. My 1st Class was the same way. you pick up traits from them that stay with you for life. You are broke down in boot camp to the level of a snail and the senior Po's teach you to become a Sailor. You are in a completely different environment than feeding cows in Paris TX. we did go to GQ on liberty sometimes but the Chief pulling JOD would just want us aboard out of site. you can't fool them, they've done the same thing as you at some time in their career....Charlie

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Ken, your MMC in M Div while you were on board was Earl Wright. He was on board from 56-63! Do you remember Seavey/Shorevey? That was how you got shore duty. Earl Wright passed away 27Oct07. His buddy from the same time was ENC(S) Skip Wright who was A Div 55-59. He passed 30May07. I had the priviledge of going to breakfast or lunch with both several times way back when. I live close to their homes. Lots of salty talk between some seagoing sailors. Went to both funerals as HANCOCK "Rep". Not a fun job, but both families were appreciative of someone from one of their ships showing up. Unfortunately, I don't/didn't fit into my uniform, so wore HANCOCK shirft and hat.

Name: Henry A. McCormick
Email_Address: henry.mccormick82@gmail.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1961-1964
Division_Squadron_Detachment: B-Div#4&1 Firerooms
Date: 19 Aug 2010
Time: 17:13

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I heard a whisper about a mini reunion in Branson, Mo., sometime next year, any in-put or feed back. Cheers, Mack

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charlie, you are right. i think our chief did the same thing never had one. can,t remenber his name. but our first class mm was james wright. we called him jim. would go to his house on a 72 bbq drink beer . but come back to eng. rm. he was wright ken

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dennis, you where their at same time. bet ya'll wonder them idoits are snipes. ha. ken

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Ken, Dennis saw both sides of the coin. I very seldom saw O's, maybe in a ships inspection but they didn't know what they were looking at, they just buzzed threw to get it over with. I missed most inspections of the crew in the hangar bay because Chief would put us all on watch in the plant. I have no idea who was up there from A division. I did have a Great Chief...Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 19 Aug 2010
Time: 14:49

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dennis, charlie is right. i do not know how you retain all of this info. wright a book dennis i will buy 10 of them and give 9 to people that i like. the catwalks i tooked a nap on where on starboard side a little pass center of superstruture. little unconforable but good ken.

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I never slept on the catwalks but there was a cargo net strung below the Starboard ramp where we could park our tractors, we would flip over the railing and climb under the ramp and sleep in the net when it was hot. Some times when we were not at flight quarters I would sleep on a dolly they had that would go under the wing of an aircraft if it broke a landing strut, it had an old greasy mattress taped on it but was curved like a hammock and was great for sleeping. 65 guys in our berthing compartment made it muggy, stinky and hot in the PI so anyplace but there was good. It was quiet though two decks below the hanger and about even with # 3 elevator on the center line of the ship so in nice weather it wasn't so bad especially compared to what others had. Dennis

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Charlie, That was Rear Admiral Paul P. Blackburn, Jr. that was aboard and it was during the time we had Captain Paul K. Blesh who assumed command of the USS Hancock December of 1961. He was the Captain I had the pleasure of driving for and was quite a guy. Stern but very fair. He treated me like a son and watched out for me. In return I covered his butt a couple of times when he had too much at the O Club and I would get him back aboard without any of the crew seeing him, even if it meant wrapping him in a bed sheet and carrying him aboard like a dead body. He just could not let any Marine officer try and out drink him overseas, He never lost but usually didn't get back to the ship before he was asleep. That guy just did not like Marines for some reason. Dennis

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Ken, the catwalks didn't look like a good place to sleep. below decks did get hot, I have no idea how the air-dales that had a birthing area in the loft slept, I went up there to visit Dykes, It was so hot and the noise from air-ops you could't here yourself think. thats when I brouht him down to the 02 plant and it was a different world to him. we had plenty air coming down from topside in about a 2 1/2ft vent for our compressor. He never slep there but came down to get a break. I think I had about the best job there was on the Hanna....Charlie

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Wayne, she's not the one I saw. I looked her up,she didn't join west pack until 66 from what I read. Her superstructure is way to big. She was a nuke. the one I saw was an older class. I never did like Okinawa. we anchored off it and used liberty launches. I got knocked in the bushes at the landing and didn't even know I was in a fight. I guess Hanna's crew needed a Little exercise waiting for the launch. they were beating the heck out of each other. The JOD just waved us on without requesting permission to come aboard. I could be wrong but I think the the same cruiser and sub, tied up in Yokuska with us just before the big operaion Dennis was saying....Charlie

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you guys or something else. enjoyed it all. i guess i was in aft. eng. rm. wayne, henry you where down their also. when i came top side would go to cat walk by the guns.lay down and have a good nap. i would have the inprint on my back, but it was a cool nap. ken

Name: Henry A. McCormick
Email_Address: henry.mccormick82@gmail.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1961-1964
Division_Squadron_Detachment: B-Div.#4&1Firerooms
Date: 18 Aug 2010
Time: 13:53

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The Cruiser, I remember was the USS Long Beach CGN-9. My reasoning is, as She operated off our starboard, She didn't have smoke stacks, also not many of the crew, was on deck, because it had air conditioned. When we received fuel and stores, there was a lot of people above decks, enjoying the breeze. I remember the HMS Ark Royal. She was with us in Buckner Bay, White Beach, Okinawa. Memories, Cheers, Mack

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Dennis, I saw him in the hangar bay drunk as an EM, He had his staff escorting him. at ease and carry on were the only words I ever heard him say to Sailors in the hangar deck. I have no idea why he came up the after brow going to O country. I only seen the engineering Officer once and that was when I come aboard a he sent me to 02N2, I hardy seen Officers. we worked for a Chief and what he said was good as gold.that was his job to mess with them..Charlie

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Dennis, I didn't realize the task force was that big , The Remora must have been the sub I saw. I think a lot of them must have been diverted to Manila or other ports of call after the operation. Correct me if I'm wrong but was that the yr we were flagship and had a little short Admiral aboard by the name of Blackburn, or Blackwell. He loved to party,...Charlie

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continuing The Oilers were USS Hassayampa AO 145, USS Ashtabula AO 51, USS Chemung AO 30 and USS Navasota AO 106, Repair Ships: USS Ajax AR 6, USS Hector AR 7, USS Jason AR8 SHIPS STORES: USS Griffias AF 29, USS Pictor AF 49, USS Aludra AF 55, The Submarine USS Remora SS 87 besides the other carriers and what ever the Brits and Aussies brought with them for support ships as well as several New Zeeland ships. A newspaper clip I had from Manila says it was a small task force assembled for an exercise. I would hate to see what a large one would have looked like. I do know the bars in Subic Bay were packed where you could not hardly stand let alone sit. Phill, That was the first thing that caught my eye was the fancy rope work and canvas on that cruiser, what a beauty it was. Dennis

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Charlie how about this. That was the biggest task force assembles since WWII. We also had: USS Wilkinson DL5 (Frigate), USS Dennis J. Bucklet DDR 808 (Radar Picket Destroyer), USS Jarvis DDE 799, USS Trathen DD 530,(all were Desron 19, the Greyhounds) USS Marshal DD676, USS Orleck DD886, (Desron 17 out of San Diego, The Destroyer Tenders: USS Dixie AD 14, USS Prarie AD15USS Pedmont AD17, USS Hamul AD20, USS Frontier AD25

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I think your right in our time frame, since you told me her name I looked her up and she sailed with our fleet but was out of San Diego. When I saw her tied up the boatswains had her all dolled up with with their knot and canvas thing. She looked great. I have no idea what her onboard tecs were. Our Pilots put up a shield to cover our task force as well as they did us...Charlie

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Dennis, I remember that deployment, we had a joint venture with allies to flex our mussels I think thats when Gordon's Brit carrier operated with us. that was the only time I saw a subs periscope from the Hanna, If I'm correct it was the yr Aussie's stenciled a red kangoroo in the center of the of the star on our A/C in Subic. We had a big Ships party at Grande Island, Those Aussie, are somthing else. they would fight at a drop of the hat, I don't know who went back to thier ships with the most black eyes, It was all in fun and sport....Charlie

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Dennis, Charlie, The USS Canaberra CA 70 and later designated CAG 2 in 1952 as a guided missle cruiser operated with the Hancock during the time I was on. The Canaberra used to get a big audience every time she came alongside the Hancock as she was always announced when coming alongside. It was quite a sight as it looked like a small Battleship with its 8" gun mounts. Phil

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Charlie, I remember the Cruser in Yoko and it was beauty, It operated with us when we sailed with the Aussies and the Brits in 62. I beleive it was the USS Los Angeles CA 135, about the same time we were with the USS Hornet CVA 12, USS Lexington CVA 16 , USS Ranger CVA 61, USS Forestal CV 59 and the USS Bennington CVA 20, these all operated with ups at one time or another during that time period. In 62 we pulled into Manlia Bay and launched aircraft while at anchor to impress the SEATO forces and did a demo with some sidewinders which malfunctioned during the demo by the way. plus the HMAS Albian RO 7 ( or Possibly the HMAS Melborn) and the HMS Arc Royal

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Thomas Taff, That was also a very good book, Those guys from WWII sure went through Hell and most people don't realize how much some of them endured. Every time I see a vet, I always make sure to thank them, Young and old alike. I can't imagine how some of those guys found the strength to keep going in all they had to endure. Dennis

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Thomas, I always Cruisers and Battleships were the most beautiful ship in the Navy. they were phased out before my time, I saw one Cruiser off our starboard at a distance one and then her in Yokuska when we tied up, I think Dennis told me her name once. He's a walking encyclopedia. I wish he would wright a book about the Hanna during his time. him and Jim were topside and saw a lot more than me stuffed below the armored deck...Charlie

Name: Thomas Taff
Email_Address: Thomtaff@wmconnect.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1959-1962
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V-4 DIV.
Date: 17 Aug 2010
Time: 09:18

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Dennis, I have not read the book you mentioned but just finished his 2\nd bk-Ship of Ghost.USS HOUSTON was sunk off the Java coast and the suvivors worked on Burna-Thailand Death Railway. A very good book.

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Helmut, I always wanted a log cabin. modern one's are very expensive. up Pete's from a lot of people replace the foot of their outboards with a jet drive that fish rivers because the rocks tare props up. I was going to get one but was told they burn twice as much gas and the screen would stay clogged up with leafs and vegetation that are in our waters in the south...Charlie

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I visited a friend who had built a log house in Monarch,MT. The Belt Creek runs along US 89. It is cold, clear and fast flowing. It must be great for fishing. While visiting Great Falls I saw the Lewis & Clark Interperative Center, the Charles Russell Museum and the Montana Fish Hatchery on the banks of the Missouri River. The variety and size of the fish was unbelievable. This hatchery stocks all the lakes and rivers in Montana.

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Wayne, wreck diving is dangerous anyway, The Battalion Dr and I went down to a WWII sunk freighter of PR. it was in Navy controlled waters so it wasn't scavenged by civilians, The big hole in her side we swam in I think must have been caused by a torpedo. the superstructure was gone, It was spooky. When the Doc wanted me to go diving he would get me off duty telling them for me to report to his office....Charlie

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Charlie... I agree about going deep durring diving. Once you're down that deep you loose all the colors and it gets cold. On one of our earlier dives off Catalina, we found the wreck of the Valiant off of Avalon Harbor. It's stern was in about 90 feet and the bow was down at a little more then 100 feet. It sank in 1936 I believe and went down with over $100,000 worth of jewelry and cash onboard. Not much hope of finding any of it though. It burned for three days before it sank. I burnt through a tank of air in about 20 minutes on that dive.

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I remember when I saw the bomb on the Hanna, It gave me the chills because in school we were taught to get under our desk for cover. I was in Germany during the 7 day war when Israel was kicking butt in 67, I was in my tank at Fulda Gap. To be honest I see a bad moon rising where their going to do Iran "in" very soon before they produce deployable nukes. I have no idea what our Commander In Chief's ROE is. It bothers me...Charlie

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Helmut, When I lived in Colorado we used to go about 40 miles South to Pueblo and there was a man made resivour down there about 12 miles long and 3 1/2 wide, it was 128 feet deep at the dam and tapered to mud flats at the far end with lots of canyons off each side. The state used to raise Walleyes down there and sell them to other states, They also introduced "Wipers" down there which were a hybrid mix between a White Bass and a Striped Bass. They averaged about 21 to 25 inches long and when they hit they would head straight for the bottom. They gave a good fight and were just as good as Walleye to eat. They also had trout, Catfish and many other fish in there. Great place to fish on weekdays but nuts like any other spots on weekend with all the damn jet boats. What a bunch of inconsiderate jerks they were. With a lake that big they always seemed to find you and try and dig holes in the water with them right near you. Dennis

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I like fishing, When I was younger I bought a 300 weatherby. 20 Rd's at the range I could taste blood from almost havening a nose bleed. I practice at the Police range that was open ne day a week to the public and had a safety officer. everyone was glad to see me take that Cannon off the line. I think I bought it because I didn't think much of our AR15s and went a little overboard on it. Our Seabee fireing range was open to us on certain days, A Marine Gunny was in charge I let him shoot a couple rds, He said what do you plan on hunting an elephant...Charlie

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Ken, any military ID is good. I think Texas is the same way if they haven't changed it. , divers I've only dove in the tropics I have no idea how I would respond to a walrus. I guess about all you can do is give him a one finger salute and take pictures. Ca waters were cold with a lot of kelp. I think about as deep as I have gone was 100 ft, the mask squeeze and the air used wasn't worth it. I enjoyed most diving between 30-40 ft on coral reefs, I went 100 ft off Puerto Rico and it and there was nothing interesting....Charlie

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Pete... I had a similar experience off of Santa Barbara. There is an island called Bird Rock (for obvious reasons) and we were finishing up on the days dives by going after lobsters in about 30 feet of water. I was with my two partners and had used up all but about 300 lbs. of air in my tank and wanted to save what was left for the swim back. I elected to go to the surface above them and snorkel untill they were ready to head back to the boat. I felt a pretty good bump on my tank and when I turned around I came face-to-face with a big, blond, bull sea lion! I think he liked me because he kept circling me. I was a little uneasy due to him being at least twice my size, so kept my spear gun pointed at him. I think it would have only pissed him off if I had shot. He finally swam away.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div.afteng. rm.
Date: 16 Aug 2010
Time: 15:37

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pete, them two comentes are good . have a good nite. enjoy reading all of them. ken

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Hey, two posts tonight! Wayne Durfey, memories of CA diving....off Carmel one time, I felt something punching my weight belt. I thought it was my dive buddy (wife). We were at 60 feet in the kelp bed. But she was off to my left. Turned and saw a sea lion staring at me. I was not spear fishing...had no fish...so she "bid ado." At the dive shop, I found out she had a name, Sally, and a rep for stealling fish. Hey, good pickings for her plate. Pete

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Joe Stevens, welcome aboard. I joined the squadron at the start of the '73 cruise...a young Lt on his first carrier deployment (second squadron tour). I was the NATOPS, QA, and Safety Officer during my tour with VA-212. The A-4 was a sweet bird to strap on and fly! Please join us in the Association. Pete

Fishing, guys...gave that up in my youth...could never catch anything. My father always said you had to "hold your mouth right." Never really knew what that meant, but oviously did not do it correctly:)

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 16 Aug 2010
Time: 14:44

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charlie, just wondering you said with military id. you can fish. is that for retired militay only. are do you need a diff. card. how's about your va.card. or your dd214. ken.

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Helmut, here it is fishing license crazy, above I-10 you need fresh water below a salt water and they have a combination that covers both. if you go to La waters not far away you need to buy an endoserment for that. they usely hang out out at boat ramps to wright tickets to boats haulng out. they don't do it often. people getting license from out of state also is a ripoff. Military can fish with a ID...Charlie

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Dennis... Zebra Mussels!!! I know all about those pesky little critters. They are very likely killing the Great Lakes all by themselves. They take the air out of the water or something like that. You're right, they figure that the mussels hitched a ride on a freighter from Europe. One of my best friends in Wisconsin had a company that contracted the removal of zebra mussels from the water intake and exhaust pipes and valves that feed the various towns and companies along Lake Michigan. They gum up the works pretty bad. He had three commercial boats with divers that swam up these pipes and cleared out the mussels. Talk about being claustrophobic! It paid really well though.

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I stopped drowning worms years ago. My new neighbors from ST.Louis asked me to take them saltwater fishing. I dusted off my gear and took them to one of my father's favorite spots. I cast out the line and gave the rod to the wife telling her to slowly reel in the line. She got a strike in less than a minute. It was a 18" Stripped Bass. I got the hook out and released the fish because it was undersized. I baited the hook and cast again handing the rod to the husband. Again there was a strike in less than a minute. He reeled in a Flounder the size of a Time magazine. It was a keeper, but I released it. On the third cast the wife caught another Stripper which I released. I told her that in all the years that I fished I had never caught a Stripped Bass and she got two on her first outing. I gave up fishing again.

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Here in the New England states you must pressure wash your boat and trailer before launching in fresh water. This is to prevent paracites from hitch-hiking and infesting other waters. The ocean bottom has been depleted due to over fishing. Pretty soon you will not see Gorton's fish sticks in your supermarket freezer. The fishing fleets in Gloucester and New Bedford are hurting. I have always felt that the oceans should be free for recreational fishing. In 2011 Taxachusetts will require a saltwater fishing license. In my opinion it's only a ploy to get revenue that the politcians can squander. Luckily I'm over 65 and will get a free license. Yeah, but for how long?

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Mack that's pretty dry, It seem like weather all over has gone crazy. we had a long dry spell but have getting more rain. I like rain, it freshens everything up even the air. I think we have one coming, I need to stake Cujo out in the yard or break down and give her a bath....Charlie

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When the weeds come up we get a 30 to 50 foot ring of weeds along the beaches, they have to be dragged up on shore and dried, then they drag them off into the woods to rot away. Meanwhile while fishing you spend more time untangling your line and prop. Those lakes I mentioned at 10 to 15 feet deep also have some spots that go to 30 feet but they are few and far between. Wayne, my wife was an avid scuba diver up till she turned 64 and developed asthma. She said the average distance you can see on the inland lakes is about 3 to 5 feet, most all our lakes have what is called a Morrow bottom which is a word used to describe muck, unless someone has put in a nylon mat and then dumped tons of sand you usually don't get a "Beach" in front of a private cottage. I want to go back out to Colorado where I lived almost 30 years where the water is clear and the trout are tasty. Dennis

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Wayne, Charlie & Ken, Over the past 10 years or so we have had an infestation of Zebra Mussels that have come in the great lakes in the ballast tanks of freighters, then boaters have taken their boats from the great lakes inland. The attack the bottom and have cleaned up lakes so much that the sun gets through so much better which causes the weeds to go nuts. Now the state has introduced some kind of beetle that eats the weeds at the root which causes them to float up and gag out the lakes.

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Ken, that's why I love it here in Biloxi. we have about as much water as they do dirt. I felt land locked in my home town of Paris TX. we had a lot of ponds there, we used to shine frogs, I wasn't to good with a gig, I'd clobber with an axe handle. we have big bullfrogs there. we don't have a lot here. I think the gators get them. It's illegal to shoot turtles, but people do it anyway, thier gator food. if you get one of them on your hook you've got a fight on your hands....Charlie

Name: Henry A. McCormick
Email_Address: henry.mccormick82@gmail.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1961-1964
Division_Squadron_Detachment: B-Div.#4&1 Firerooms
Date: 16 Aug 2010
Time: 03:53

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Greetings, My son gave me a 2 class crow, to wear on my Hancock hat, I think it looks great. To date, from 1st. Jan. I have cleaned 93 B M Bass, out of this lake behind my house. I'm looking forward to the fall, when it cools down. It has been so hot and dry here, the trees have started following the dogs around. Cheers, Mack

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Wayne we have Sheep head, they eat barnacles off structures. they will bite a plug out of you. our waters are to warm to have abalone. your waters are clearer but cold. I was a scuba diver, you had better be careful what you spear. You might hook onto something you can't turn lose without losing your spear gun. off Puerto Rico I hid behind a big staghorn coral as a big black tip swam by. I can sweat underwater. He paid no attention to me but I did him....Charlie

Name: Joe Stevens
Email_Address: joestevens1953@gmail.com
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1973-1974
Division_Squadron_Detachment: VA-212
Date: 15 Aug 2010
Time: 18:55

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Great Website, Looking for old shippies and wondering how there lives turned out. Met some great people when I was a young sailor who took me under their wing and sure looked out for me. I thank them for that. ADJ3 J. Stevens

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Dennis... Your fishing stories are killing me ! We have a moratorium on certain types of fishing off the California coast and it is mostly concerning shell fish and lobsters. They have been over fished off the Channel Islands so the Fish & Game people decided to let them repopulate for a few years. I was really into off-shore fishing untill I learned to scuba dive. It's like taking a chance on catching anything that swims your way or go down and pick what you want off of the shelf. We have a fish out here called a Sheepshead and it eats shellfish and abalone, so you rarely see one while fishing with bait. We take them with spear guns and the large ones can certainly drag you around for awhile! Then you have to get back to the dive boat without getting mauled by a sea lion, all the while trying not to run out of air! Now that I'm thinking about it, I wonder what the attraction was?

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 15 Aug 2010
Time: 17:51

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charlie, dennis, can see y,all know about lakes and rivers heck all we got is some lakes mostly creeks and tanks good bull frog. hunting. learning a little more all the time with y,all coments. ken

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Dennis the Gulf down here is tricky if you don't know it, It will be slick as glass in the AM. we usually get get winds from the south and the waves catch up late in the afternoon. low transom boats can get swamped from behind if they don't know how to read the water and if that happens put their bow into it. tourist use to small of boats and go to far out thinking it is docile and go to the barrier Islands....Charlie

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Dennis our "Gator Grass" build up from silt running down our rivers going it a bay, Gators nest there and it has wandering streams through them. good fishing because Gators eat turtles. fish are to fast for them. It's to small for the expense of Air Boats, they can't fit in in the bayous because of the cypress trees...Charlie.

Name: Spencer Jones
Email_Address: spjones92550@aol.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1969-72
Division_Squadron_Detachment: OI div
Date: 15 Aug 2010
Time: 11:48

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Greg I just looked you up in my cruise book. Your name was familiar. I came aboard early in 69 and was assigned to OI div. after mess cooking for a while. Not too many of us are this site. I don't know why its such a nice site.

Name: Spencer Jones
Email_Address: spjones92550@aol.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1969-72
Division_Squadron_Detachment: OI div
Date: 15 Aug 2010
Time: 11:48

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Charlie, I forgot to mention, Lakes up here in Michigan, although we have thousands of them most run 10 to 15 feet deep with a lot of it at a 4 to 5 foot depth, so when the weeds grow they are just below the surface. That is a lot of the smaller inland lakes, the great lakes are a different story but I just have a 15 foot bass boat with a low sideboard so it has to be pretty calm on the big ones for me to get out there and even then you keep a close watch on the weather. Dennis

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Charlie, Fishing was pretty good caught some nice bass and pike then with the heat up here the lakes have gotten pretty weedy and too many fishing tourneys have over-fished a lot of the lakes so it has slowed down a lot. As always a bad day fishing is still better than a good day at work so I still have fun trying. It has been like living down South up here with 93% humidity and temps in the high 80's and low 90's so I have been doing a lot of hiding out indoors with the AC. Dennis

Name: Greg Braunig
Email_Address: seaplane01@gmail.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1966-1970
Division_Squadron_Detachment: OI DIV
Date: 15 Aug 2010
Time: 09:08

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I just renewed my membership. Any one from CIC OI division still out there 1968-1969 vietnam cruises?

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Dennis, hows the fishing been going. Ken, I liked SW Texas. the population explosion sure changed it over the yrs. it used to be just little towns about every 30 miles with not much there. I was in 2nd Armor Division 1st Bat at Ft Hood. I read where they had a 1st Battalion chopper suport group attached to them. I think I've about got it figured out how my orders got messed up and I ended up in CC to a chopper unit. I ask my 1st Sgt about it and he said he never heard of tanks in CC?....Charlie

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Dennis for some reason didn't get your e-mail.....Charlie

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Charlie, I did enjoy that video of Toni, she looks like a teen, what a sweet looking gal. Also read your email as I sent a question to you and am waiting for an answer. Dennis

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div.aft.eng. rm
Date: 14 Aug 2010
Time: 17:19

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aunt pass away in hondo tex. see was a southtexas woman. at 93 was ready to go. ken.

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Dennis, It took forever to get to Ind. Dad pulled into a ice house and ask the guy how much he'd charege to cool a mellon, 25 cents, Dad backed up to the dock and pulled the quilt off and the guy said he didin't know he was cooling a truck load. Dad said every thing bigger in Texas. I had to laugh. I think the guy showed it off to everyone in Kokomo. we went to the kins, her husband was in the basement washing walnuts in a washing machine. I thought it was crazy. we have pecans in Tx...Charlie

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Dennis, The Clinton's are something I don't want to get started on. Hope Ark is a great little place. as a teen Dad and I picked up a 105 lb watermelon there. he had a old red Willis jeep truck then. we headed for Kokomo Ind to visit kin. That is one heck of a trip in one of those. Clinton may have been a little kid there then? I was about 13? Dad thew a quilt over the mellon...Charlie

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Wayne, I agree with you but views once we don't need to beat them to death. I think everyone knows where a lot of us stand. most agree we are in a tail spin and something needs to be done. come Nov flush the toilet. I got a DVD I ordered called "a question of eligibility" I recommend it. A Supreme Court Justus said of all the Dept's of Gov there is not one to verify eligibility of people in office.I had to do that to get drivers license as a kid....Charlie

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Rick... I don't always agree with the views of other shipmates on this forum, but I certainly wouldn't impose on them that they stop voicing their opinion. A spirited debate is a healthy thing and trying to keep an open mind will win you more points then trying to stifle something that you might not agree with. The trick is to come to an agreement that bennefits you both.

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Dennis, My boss would let me take the swaves back there to get out of the plant for a while. 02N2 was a small space with long hrs, we needed to get out to prevent cabin fever. did you get Toni's sample TV broadcast I sent you....Charlie

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Charlie, At least you tried to keep them clean. Clinton with all his money wouldn't even pay a cleaning bill for a dress and look at what trouble it cost him..................It seems that we spent as much time getting our laundry done as we did on liberty. I loved our work uniform on the flight deck, T-shirt and jeans, just drag them behind the ship for about 15 min and you were set to go again as long as someone didn't dump garbage back there. Dennis

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Mack, I still think your the guy that blew tubes just as we untied and Shift Colors in Alameda at dock and ruined or whites at quarters on the flight deck. I almost puked with the smell, somebody must have had them boilers running to rich. I never could get along with whites. It cost me more than my clothing allowance to keep me in them. I don't ever remember wearing undress blues.....Charlie

Name: Henry A. McCormick
Email_Address: henry.mccormick82@gmail.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1961-1964
Division_Squadron_Detachment: B-Div.#4&1 Firerooms
Date: 13 Aug 2010
Time: 07:44

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Greetings, my Son graduated from Hospital Corp School, Great Lakes Naval Training Center, 8-10-10. After 14 Days leave, he has orders to Camp LeJeune, Marine Base, in N.C. After F M T, He will be embedded with the 2nd Marine Divison, as a Combat Corpman. By the way, no one speaks for me anywhere,I speak for myself. I come from a large family and I never liked for any of them to correct me. I'm glad you Brethren are AMERICANS. I read somewhere in U S History, Ben Franklin, was asked, what kind of Government do we have Mr Franklin? His answer, a Republic, if you can keep It. Cheers, MACK

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I just read were inter-pol was just signed to to enter personal files our own Law Enforce met can't inter by our Commander in Chief that by passes Congress. Our Officers in the Military are Commissioned by Congress. I became a Petty Officer from a signature from one of them that entrusted me with Authority they would back up in me giving a lawful order to people under me. I ask a Officer one time to give me an order once in writing when I thougt it was puting my men in harms way. he backed off.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 12 Aug 2010
Time: 17:52

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rick, the USA. MEANS the united states of amercia. how do you know that i am hurting the log.what i say is what i belive. have you got input that is yours are others that have told you this. good. ken

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 12 Aug 2010
Time: 17:51

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rick, if you are 180 off from what i think. then their is no sence to keep going on guess we will find out in a short time. if the USA , will still be the USA. ken

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Rick, I agree with you to a certain extent. If we talk about the Constitution and Bill of Rights it should be inbounds, That is what the Military is there for if not to defend it, both parties should defend it. I'm sure you swore to uphold it and rasied your right hand and the last words out of your mouth were so help me God. A lot of us are worried what's happening with open borders......Charlie

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XO, Toni staid quite a while this afternoon, She was concerned about you when I tolded her you fighting Pneumonia but I thought it was getting better. She always has so many irons in the fire I don't know how she keeps up with them. She doesn't look a day older than when she left for CC. I have a copy of the National Graphic Explorer DVD she was part of that coved disasters. It showed the Space Shuttle that blew up and scattered all over TX. She said she was in the 4th grade then...Charlie

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Incomplete email address-sorry

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Incomplete email address-sorry

Name: Rick Acree
Email_Address: rickacree
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1964-1967
Division_Squadron_Detachment: OI Div.
Date: 12 Aug 2010
Time: 12:43

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I am an American. I love America as much as you do. I am as Patriotic an American as you. I am proud of my service to America. My politics are, however, 180 degrees from yours Ken. I do not feel it is neccessary to state my political views in this forum. This site is intended and designed to recount our experiences aboard Hancock and to reunite shipmates. I truly do enjoy reading the sea stories. You have been asked several times to refrain from politics but are apparently unable to control yourself. If you wish to discuss politics with me, or anything else, email me direct and I will be happy to oblige. You are driving people away from the Quarterdeck Log and that is a real shame.

Name: Rick Acree
Email_Address: rickacree
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1964-1967
Division_Squadron_Detachment: OI Div.
Date: 12 Aug 2010
Time: 12:42

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Name: Rick Acree
Email_Address: rickacree
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1964-1967
Division_Squadron_Detachment: OI Div.
Date: 12 Aug 2010
Time: 12:42

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Ken, The last election I didn't vote, I didn't think there was anyone worth voting for, I just wondered if that was the best America had to offer. I think a lot of people were that way. big money is what buys people into office. We spend to much on wars and not enough on National defense. Honest Governors and State Attorney Generals, elected Judges can clean up a State. Put the Draft back in and Politician's won't be in such a hurry to send their sons off to war. It sure would get rid of unemployment checks...Charlie

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XO, Sorry to hear you will not be at the Hook this year. Next year for sure! We will raise a glass to you on Bug night! Hope your health improves soon! Pete

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm
Date: 11 Aug 2010
Time: 15:32

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i do not know why the american people voted him in. but the change he was talking is taken down the usa. internally. and he is + his people that or on his billfold side are not americas eather. hope we can survie to nov 2. maybe then , but a lot of damage has been done. GEORGE BUSH. WAS AMERICAN. ken

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Thanks for the update XO, Those Peal Harbor survivors are getting far and in-between. I've seen a couple old timers in VA's I met a USS Indianapolis survivor in the Bonham TX VA, I got to talk to him some before the Nurse called him to see he Dr I was very interested in him because my Dads Friend in Paris TX was a MP that guarded the bomb being loaded on the Enola Gay and his crew delived it....Charlie.

Name: Tom Wimberly
Email_Address: twimbo@aol.com
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1970-72
Division_Squadron_Detachment: Exec of ship
Date: 11 Aug 2010
Time: 07:52

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Pete, Charley: After another chest X-Ray yesterday, and a consultation with the doctor, I am canceling my trip to Tailhook this year. It would have been a great one. We were going to stop two nights on the way out at the old El Tovar Lodge right on the South Rim of the Grand Canyon. Also I was planning to go visit Pat Frey at Carson City, with whom I served aboard Intrepid 1961-62. Pat was in John Finn's division at Kaneohe on Dec. 7, 1941, and was right there on the ramp with John during the hot action. I'll start making cancelation calls this afternoon.

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Pete, have you heard from the XO? geting anything out of him's like pulling hens teeth. Toni just called, She's still in Vicksburg at her Grandmothers. She's been setting off flea bombs. I guess the dog she gave her a couple yrs ago got fleas started, she's coming by tomarrow afternoon. She said she's going to make it just in time for the tropical storm, It won't be nothing, it's breaking up and moveing faster across the Gulf. just needed rain and cool things off....Charlie

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Dennis, I made 2nd shortly after Bruce's accident and took over the #1 plant. the #2 plant could produce more but for some reason was the one that went down several times. it was always stuff that took time to repair. the 3K psi 6 stage compressor ate a valve once and we had to change a piston and a big silica gel dryer kept blowing gaskets. It was inside the plant and we had to dig through insulation to get to it. they replaced it in Bremerton I think. I sure loved it there. I got a lot of sea time in on the ferry's to Seattle.The people liked Sailors. those sand crabs had Hanna all tore apart. and we got 72 hr pass's back to back to get us out from under feet. We had one that went with us for sea trials as some as he heard shift colors. I think it was a mental thing. he didn't puke but felt woozy. Hanna was like a brand new penny. the power chipping hammers would drive you nuts. I camped out with a telephone operate in Renton. I had her 55 Chevy. a 6 cyl auto....Charlie

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Dennis, I had to pull refer watch smetimes when they were short handed. they had Bruce wraped in plastic in one. I went in to get me a carton of milk. We had two 02 sponsons, the one Bruce landed on was the #1 for the #1 Plant. I was working in the #2 plant. The 02 tanks were like big round thermous bottles that had a vacum pump that kept 21" of mercury vacum between the inter and outer shell. they were reserve storage for long air ops or if a plant went down. the tanks we used were like them in each plant. we used the #2 reserve once when we detected R22 in the plant tank and had to replace the head gasket on the compressor.we dumpd the tank and and we slowly got every thing back normal....Charlie

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About the resulting fire when Bruce went over. We had just topped off the "Huffers" and he had 30 gallons of 145 AvGas and 30 gallons of JP4 on it. When it lit off the fire was so intense that it melted the wipers on both the bridge and pilot house. The crew on the hanger deck right above your shop had the fuel flushed over the side and the fire out in about 3 minutes and before they could get the foam generators going. Must have had a damn good senior PO in charge. We learned later the O2N2 plant was just below where he hit. I'm real glad it didn't get there as it would have been a real disaster, plus I would not have you to pick on anymore. Dennis

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Charlie, When Bruce Wisnewski went over the side it was the 12th. of May 1962, I remember the date as we had been in Hong Kong on the 2nd of April and were sceduled to go back near the end of May or June. Bruce had mentioned he had gotten some instrument grade Mercury that the aviation store room was going to toss over the side and he had it sold on the black market in Hong Kong at $ 35.00 and ounce, He had 4 one pint bottles. When the MA came to clean out his locker they found that stuff. Of coarse we didn't know anything about it. The only time I rember backing down at sea was when the pilot got a cold shot off the cats and went in right in front of us. They didn't back down when Bruces tractor went over , just turned so the flight deck blocked the wind.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 10 Aug 2010
Time: 14:18

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charlie, i think the screws were 18 ft. across.solid brass. that is something else. they would dive her no doubt. ken

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XO, hows things with you? are you feeling better?...Charlie

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Ken, she was a big gal and hard to stop once cruising. once leaving Alameda we liked to turned a tug over with a sponson. they would line us up for a straight shot at the Gate. I think lack of communications because the tug didn't back off when you guys put her in gear. I never resized how big her screws were until we were in dry dock in Hunters Point. that was the 1st time my wife saw her and was overwhelmed by her size. I don't know what they were doing. we pulled there for a lot of modification's to update things.I think we were staying at my cousins in Redwood city. I sent her home PG to Moms in Fresno where she staid while we were deployed, I got a telegram communications sent me wife and baby boy doing fine. That's my Master Chief son. she was PG with my 2nd when I left to go through all that Army training. They cost me $25 a piece in civilian hospitals.....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 10 Aug 2010
Time: 12:24

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charlie, i was on throtte 2 times when we got the command emer. full astern. once i think a cat quit and the pilot went over the front. the other don,t know. she did do some virbrating. the 600 psi super heated steam lines where really dacing. ken

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Dennis, I think we pulled into the yard in Yokuska twice during my yrs. I think once then and another when we lost a boiler. Them guys sure boiled a lot of water,every time we refueled a tin cans we topped them off with water. once they kept the gates locked because of people protesting the bomb. I think the law ran them off and they opened the gate.I think that was the time of the boiler. I don't remember where the big EM club was but it's the biggest and best I've ever been in...,Charlie

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Dennis, that's the yr I'm thinking of. We were a Oilers nightmare. I don't how they got under the Gate much less our birth it was so foggy. Was that the yr your friends tug ended up burning on the #1 02 sponson burning. we had 600 gals of LOX in it. Do you remember why we reversed screws once? I was below decks....Charlie

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Charlie & Calvin, During my time up on the flight deck we did run against a tanker and the sponson for # 3 elevator just about took the open bridge off of it, they got a good dose of oil all over when we broke away but we never lost any aircraft in that incident. We did get some yard time , I believe in Japan on it though. We almost T-Boned the same tanker coming into SF in the fog, we turned Port and he turned Stbd. and we missed by about 150 feet (way too close)I believe the one you mention happened after I left in October of 62. Charlie you are right on the mark, we need to take out the trash on both sides of the house and starting at the lowest level of the system because they grow up to be the jerks that we have now and work our way up. I think the honeymoon is over and they started farting under the sheets. Dennis

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Ken, the way I look at it is look at the voteing record of the Reps and Governer of your own State. Each State need to clean it's own back yard up 1st, DC's running scared on both sides of the isle. The good ole boy network need to be broken. I think your going to see every dirty trick in the book pulled. and money is going to hit the media and feed us BS. I don't think SS is broke. money taken out is Coverd by T-bonds. but if the Fed don't have money to cover them what? look at your nest egg. is it worth anything close to what it was when you put it in. we have to get ahold of the purse strings and say no more and build the value of a $ back up. spending is just more than our economy can take. I could care less what side of the fence people like....Charlie

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Calvin, I think they were 2 incidents similar? Dennis and Jim were topside. during my yrs when we almost ran over a tanker, and another when we had a break away and fuel oil went ever where, I've read here someone posted about the #3 elevator was down with a A/C on it and it damaged a tanker. I don't remember what yr. we had several close calls that yr. Hanna reversed screws and I thought she was going to shake apart. I was below decks. wondering if the rivets in hull were going to pop....Charlie

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Calvin i see no division you were in. I was there and on the flight deck during unrep when the two fuel hoses broke, but dont remember you pushing anyone out of thge way....sorry saw the bombs dropping in the ocean..... Bad year

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mike, how do we know what person to vote for they so enbeded in system. i will get the deal from the voting place. think they all have got to go. i will try to figure it out. ken

Name: jkenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 09 Aug 2010
Time: 14:25

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charlie, mike, ya'll are hitting the head of the nail everytime. charlie went to conner ice house on my street. in this neck of the woods we called them that not convinece stores. anyway they had mad dog 20/20 for 3.79 a bottle. i think it was about 1.29 back yonder. ken

Name: Calvin Skipper
Email_Address: cwskip520@yahoo.com
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1968 - 1971
Division_Squadron_Detachment: 7th Fleet
Date: 09 Aug 2010
Time: 12:42

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I am looking for any sailors that was serving during 1968 thru 1970 during refueling when we collided with the tanker losing an airplane on top of the tanker. I am needing those that remember me being on refueling detail when this happened and can recall me pulling a sailor away from being swept overboard and being thrown against the bulkhead when the lines broke. If so please send an email to my email address. I need your help! Thank you. Skipper

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Ive been around a while like most alumni, and i always saw the check and balance of our system. Not now.They dont care how it looks to spend trillions of our money on their buddies. They dont think we are smart enough to throw them out. I BET THEY ARE WRONG. On vote night im going to sit down with a six pack and watch it like a movie. Im going to enjoy this better than pulling i nto a liberty port.....

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Federalism of our States began before the Civil War, after it there was no stopping. I do not know of one person in power that would give up any of theirs. To me downsize Federal Gov and get rid of so many with it would be the 1st step. you can only put so much hot air in a ballon until it pops. I pray there will be a turn around in Nov. we have so much deadwood sitting on the porch waiting for their free check....Charlie

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Mike in the Military we lived under the UCMJ. Civilians might not like it but I don't know of anyone getting a raw deal. I'm sure brig time was tough but I don't even know what the one on the Hanna looked like. there was always a layer of protection with our Chief and Officers before things got out of hand. In Army boot camps during the draft they had goon platoons. they would recycle them in boot camp for about 6 mos before giving them a dishonorable discharge just to aggravate them and send them home to Dad...Charlie

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I see where the top kill cement has hardened on this oil well. that's great. The Saint's are having a Super bowl celebration at the White House? their going to get their butt kicked anyway this yr. flaunt it while you've got it. I'm sure it must be a fund raiser. I don't think it's a good idea to open Gulf waters back open to commercial fishing as they have done. No one realy knows the impact yet. I would think it needs a break to reproduce young. I think a couple little huricanes would do us some good that might stir up the bottom a little...Charlie

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Old Salt, I've been rethinking about what I suggested about on line Hannah news, When I get into the Naval Home I think I will leave mine in the common area where old farts do a lot of reading, there used to be a lot of Sailors that remembered the Hanna and operated with her. A couple of submarine Sailors called her a target. I've only seen one periscope at sea off #3 elevator, it was pretty close to us. we may have been pulling into Pearl....Charlie

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Mike, I'm worried about States that don't require voter's Id's. why do you think our border is closed and passing all these gay marriage things. Our Secretary of the Navy is out politicking, I would think he would have a Navy to run instead of being someones errand boy. I would like to give him a tail hook party with my boot. no offense Pete:)....Charlie

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I agree charlie....My great great granddad was killed at the battle of kennasaw ridge in the civil war and my grandfather was wounded in ww1, and my dad was in ww2 and recieved beau coup medals. Some of us dont like whats going on now and its not funny to us. This HAS to end in november

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Dallas is kicking the Bengals butt tonight in preseason. I hope someone kicks the Saint's butt bad this season...Charlie

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Mike, History was my favorite subject. I was eat up with it studying Texas history because I had kin that fought for it's Independence and the Civil War. To me theres a star on our flag for every State. DC has none. Texas was the Lone Star State and still flys it. Their trying to re-wright history to suit political correctness. History happened. I feel that is wrong. put the cards on the table and learn by it. Why is our Navy shrinking when we need them most. they put the fear of God in our aggressors. I had to take a course in political science in college. It was a Joke.....Charlie

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Ken, to me Thomas Jefferson was one of the smartest Americans there ever was. It was like he had a crystal ball. His writings projected loop-holes in the Constitution and how the centralized Gov could override States rights. Our Gov was set up so each States Governor was the the big dog. If the people didn't like him they just booted his butt out. We were a Union that sent Representatives to DC to join the States together to fend off foreign invaders not to invade States business or militarily, They haven't learned one thing from Vietnam. They send our finest into harms way to fight in other countrys that in the end when we pull out will return to the way they were...Charlie Coulnt have said it better charlie. You should run for pres in 12 ,.....you know a LOT more than this guy in there now!

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Pete, I can't speak for the XO but I would bet he's there, Dr's don't like to give antibiotics more than 10 days.I just got Jenny to get a refill on her's that the prescription that were out of date and I had a bad tooth acke. a dentist would want a lot of money, she told the nurse what she wanted it for and the Dr wrote a new preciption and she got it and brought it to me. It cost $4 and the pain was gone where I could sleep. I beat some high $ dentist out of bucks. I haven't had a bit of problem with it since....Charlie

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Rob, that email of the F-106 you sent me was the one I saw in Nam flying low level heading North. I don't think they had to good of record they crashes a lot. I heard later that they had ground reading radar that was the front runner of the Cruise Missile. It had a scream to it to it when the Pilots put the petal to the metal. It was used for naplam a lot at low speeds. I think the Phantoms were used more in N Nam....Charlie

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Pete, Thunder bird was like a jug of kerosene, I've only seen the white, kids would put Grape Kool-Aid and sugar in it. us kids pooled in and rented a big cheap motel room once and they brought all kinds of stuff. my date started drinking that Slow Gin and got sick and thew up. It looked like blood. she had it on her dress later I droped her off in front of her house and ran like hell.A guy had to worry about their Fathers killing them...Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm
Date: 08 Aug 2010
Time: 16:06

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chaelie, you said a mouth full their. a old yeller dog could point his pawl at a deal on want shoud happen. and be right more then them. he gets a bisket they get the hole 9 yards. ken.

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Ken, I'm in love with Sarah Palin, She's a feisty little gal, I'd give up watching the next Super Bowl to watch her in a Cat-Fight with Hillary....Charlie

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Charlie, forgot Thunder Bird wine (red/white). More awful stuff. One of my Mids mixed them once before there was rose' :) Did not touch the stuff. David, anyone with a mascot that is a "duck" should be fearful of a "husky!" Just kidding. Think my team is still "building (forever)." Hey, when I was at the U Dub ('64-'68), we sucked, but us students had fun at the home games. XO, hope you are on the mend. Looking foward to seeing you at Tailhook. Attack Ready Room is the place to hang out. Pete

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Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 08 Aug 2010
Time: 15:17

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charlie, you are right. we have had it good but if its going to happen them idoits are still trying to get more. and it's not about america. if God want's it. it will happen. they will still be trying to get more. got to go yo bed before i blow a fuse. take it easy. ken

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Ken, the Mayan perpetual calender stops in 2012. no one has been able to figure out why they don't even know what happened to them. I would just guess disease? They were many yrs ahead of the rest of the world in their time. The Aztec's were a little further north in S Mexico at a later date. I really enjoyed my stay in Central America, it has things not seen in the rest of the world.....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcgobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 08 Aug 2010
Time: 14:36

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charlie, the people in the know. 2012 the world is going to stop and go the other way. heck that is going on now. i do not know about that stuff. but i am not blind. and the people that or supose to be americans. are doing it to the americans better get out of here before it gets political.ken.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 08 Aug 2010
Time: 12:58

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the people that view this web. please do not forget nov. 2 most of us in our last quarter but our grandkids and their kids. don't know if nov. 2 will get it right. the way it has been going is not going to fix america. ken.

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XO, the VA gave me a pneumonia vaccination, the nurse said modern strains are some tough dudes.......Charlie

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ANOTHER LIFE MEMBER CHECKS IN: Joe S. Garcia Jr., V-1, 61-64

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I had never heard of a wine referred to as Mad Dog or MD. There was (is?) an inexpensive wine known as Mogen David. - break - Must report that I am not doing well. Have been diagnosed with pneumonia - the kind they treat on an outpatient basis. Have bad chest and head cold symptoms. Guess it would be worse if I wasn't on antibiotics. Doctor says stay at home and rest, you don't get well quickly from it.

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Mike I meant Southern Ms is where Toni went. ole Miss is in Northern Ms......Charlie

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Mike USM suppose to play Navy I think on Oct 8, It will be the 1st time they ever played. That's the College Toni went to. The Superintendent of Ole Miss banned spectators from using the battle flag and got rid of the Coronal. The band can't play "the souths going to rise again" because some players griped it was a racial thing. We had to have a State vote to keep our flag yrs ago because the NAACP didn't like the stars and bars on it. these things are heritages down here...Charlie

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For DAVID BYRUM: Re UO, amazing the Ducks are able to assemble a football team this year, thought they were all in jail/prison. Must have a good work release policy in Oregon. Let's see, Masoli took his rap sheet to grad school at Ole Miss and AD Belotti took his $3 million to ESPN. Phil Knight must be really squirming!

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I don' know what the big deal is over Edsel. they were one of the most ugly cars made. People pay millions for pictures I think are ugly? My family were always Ford people. I broke the rules buying a hoped up 55 Chev. actually my Dad bought it for me. It was 2dr V8 stick. we went to a country road and from a dead stop I put some pucker power on him. It was hoped up throw, It would eat tires up with the positraction leaving long streaks on the pavement. he kept trying to tune it up, It had a 3/4 cam in it and he thought it was missing.I didn't learn about the cam until later when someone told me at the bowling ally. I was only 15..Charlie

Name: David Byrum
Email_Address: dtbyrum@gmail.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1961-1964
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V-4 Div
Date: 07 Aug 2010
Time: 20:34

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Wasn't MD "Morgan David"? Am I gabby tonight or what?

Name: David Byrum
Email_Address: dtbyrum@gmail.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1961-1964
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V-4 Div
Date: 07 Aug 2010
Time: 20:31

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Ah liberty cards, as division yeoman I saw all the special request chits, the ever popular "I want to beat the crowd to my girlfriends house" or the guy who "only has one nut and he is trying to get his wife pregnant.

Name: David Byrum
Email_Address: dtbyrum@gmail.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1961-1964
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V-4 Div
Date: 07 Aug 2010
Time: 20:24

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Pete, want to make a little bet on the UO-UW football game? Maybe the loser having to wear the other teams colors all during the reunion in Chicago?

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That must have been a heck of a night Pete, You learned responsibility of your crew at a good time. I always disliked a drunk person when I was sober and a sober person whin I was drunk. I'm a beer drinker and like to keep a little control over my 3 brain cells. Toni suppose to be here this week, I'd give her some MD 20/20 but I don't want to see her picture on the front of the paper. She said get her white Chardonnay or how ever you spell it...Charlie

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Roger Ball Charlie. MD 20/20 and Lucky Larger long necks were the beverages of choice at the parties I hosted at the NROTC frat house at the University of Washington in '68 That was the cheapest crap we could find! I was the "den mother" for the guys...like a drill sargent (senior Midshipman).Pete

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Pete they still have it. I only drank it once, Didn't know if I was scratching my watch or winding my butt. It was like grape cool-aid and you don't suppose to drink it like beer. It got that name for some reason. I don't have to wonder why. Some people get mean I got immobile...Charlie

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Helmut, an Edsel...come on who would want one of those...not many in our time...guess a lot now! Just kidding, I liked the car, but never had one. Cool up in NH at the lake tonight. Charlie, had not heard about Mad Dog 20/20 since college in the late '60s. Does it still exist? Really awful stuff! Pete

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Ken, you will get pictures tomorrow. As far as the 1960 Edsel covertible, I would say $200,000. After all, only 76 were built before Edsel production was shut down in November 1959. I'll bet Jay Leno has already tried to buy it. The car was from Rhode Island.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm
Date: 07 Aug 2010
Time: 17:09

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hech, charlie after wine and dine--promoted myself to warrent officer. busted my chief to 3rd class. ha. had no paper work. it did not fly. helmut, must have been a good edsel convention, what do you think that 1960 red convertible would bring? the ownwer. bet he is proud of it. ken.

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I was looking for a copy of a liberty card on the net. dose anyone know Matt Johnson that workerd in the Missle Shop. He has a story about his 1st liberty as an E-2 trying to get passed the JOOD's inspection to get off the Hanna, It's very good. I can relate. It dosen't say yrs but he ended up CWO3. ther people talked about colors of liberty cards effecting mileage marrage and that stuff. as I remember mine was blue and had to use a special request chit to go beyond 5O miles. I turned E-5 about the time I got married and E-5's didn't have to have a liberty card. I had to put a special requet chit in to get married? I down loaded a copy of a special request chit but it's a later form, it has privacy statement on top. I'm going to print a bunch up to jack with them at the Naval Home:)....Charlie

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The Edsel Convention was part of Salem's Heritage Days celebration. I was driven to Salem Common where all the Edsels were on display along a shaded path. Every single one was a beauty. The 1959 models outnumbered the 1958s and 1960s. I met the original owner of a 1960 red convertible. These are super rare since only 76 were made. There was one Frankenstein. Someone had put an Edsel nose and side sheet metal on a 1958 Ford Skyliner retractable hard-top. There were over 50 Edsels from different states. The one that came the farthest was from Alberta,Canada. It was a great show and I do not think that I will ever see this many Edsels in one place.

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Ken, don't buy her a jug off Mad Dog 20/20 and take her to burger king. after the 20/20 she'l promote herself to Admiral and want a pay raise and a Captains Gig :)...Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 06 Aug 2010
Time: 16:53

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all of the guys that served ..aboard the Hanna. have a good night. going too take chief out for wine and dine. ken.

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WELCOME ABOARD TO TWO NEW MEMBERS: Jerry Wideman, MarDet, 69-71, Barnhart, MO Terry L. Wolf, VA-55(LCDR), 72-73

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LIFE MEMBER NO. 400 NOW ON BOARD. Another 6 Life Members, who will no longer have to pay dues: #400 Charles Teale, Gunnery; #401 Hampton Collier, X (COs Office), 44-45; #402, Gene Monroe, G(LT) 65-67; #403 Paul Torounet, B(BT3), 58-62; #404 Larry Violette, VF-211, 63-65; #405 Tim Woodham, VF-6 (AMM3c), 45.

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Old Salt, I'm sure it's a full time job keeping up with things. I've learned a lot here getting different points of Shipmates views at their jobs and their stories. through different post on the yrs the crews were aboard I can picture how the Hanna changed from my time aboard. of the 7th fleet our task group was about the biggest dog on the block in my time. I never gave it much thought because we wasn't at war. I'm sure those that serverd during Nam had a lot harder yrs because of extended air op's. when we had 72 hrs of them it put extra pressure on all of us not just the flight deck. 02N2 had 8 hr watches any time at sea. but we had a easy job compaired to some...Charlie

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Charlie, in answer to your question on where is "the computer", wherever the Board Members live. We don't have a centralized computer as such. Each Board Member maintains and operates their own computer. Each of us pays for our own ISP. So, it is really a "labor of love". We do get reimbursed for actual expenses incurred for the benefit of the Association.

As for sending out the newsletter on line, we do for those that live overseas. We have kicked this around for awhile, but I, as Membership, have been reluctant to take on another mailing list. Just keeping up with the day to day changes is already almost a full time job.

Gota run, have to enter 6 new Life Members, update l3 renewals, enter 1 death, and enter 2 new members to keep the data base of over 4000 names up to date. No rest for the weary. Smooth sailing shipmates.

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Ken, I don't know what the used in DC, they used the Dodge 360 industrial engine in several things. The 113 armored personnel carrier had one. the 114 had a big Chevy. They are fun to drive. most track vehicles had removable rubber pads on the tracks to keep from tareing up he streets. In combat areas the were removed to get traction. the dodge 3/4 was tough but only had a Flathead 6 in. Military tactical vehicles were judged by the amount of weight the could carry across country, they are bigger and more powerful than civilians. on streets 10 tons wouldn't make a 5 ton grown. Line outfits got multi fuel engines, It was diesel but you could ut gas in i, if we did that we would add oil to it to lower he octane. I think they were built by Detroit Diesel.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 06 Aug 2010
Time: 05:03

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charlie, now i remember. what was the dodge the troopers used.remember it was fast. got to go to va. at 9:00 am for lob.work. it only takes about 15 minutes. the travel is the worst. ken

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Ken, they were Studebaker's, In about 57-58 Chrysler Corp. started coming out with Muscle cars. they were bad dudes with cheap bodies, I learned not to mess with those Chevys SS with the crossed flags. they'l leave you like your nailed to the pavemet. I had a Mustang and all I saw was tail lights.......Charlie

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Old Salt. it's $20 well spent. we can't stay afloat for free. I was wondering if you could set the Hannah news up so we could get it on line for those that chose to save printing and mailing. the one you sent me was great with color pictures and all. Just food for thougth, I have no idea of the size or capacity of our computer but I know it cost to maintain it and where ever it's at. where is it anyway?.....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm
Date: 05 Aug 2010
Time: 19:14

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charlie,got to know. was the silver hawk was it a pontiac or dodge. ken

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2010 MEMBERSHIPS ARE NOW EXPIRED! If your newsletter mailing address shows "Membership expires July 2010" above your name, you are now on your way out. If in doubt, send me an e-mail, and I will verify your expiration date. If you don't renew, the Sept issue of the newsletter will be your last. Come on guys, time to ship over for another 2 years. Only $20. Best deal of any of the ship's associations.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft eng. rm.
Date: 05 Aug 2010
Time: 19:01

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charlie, this is good. getting ready to sss and go to bed. tomorrow ken

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Helemut, to me Studebaker's were well built and ahead of there times in style. Nash was tough as a combat boot but wasn't in tune with the big three. there were several cars that went under because of the unions, That bettle was one tough little dude. I had a 56 that had 32 hp. It never passed anything that wasn't parked. that dude was like a timex, took a licking and kept on ticking.....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 05 Aug 2010
Time: 18:41

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helmut, if you go to edsel show send me some pictures. i don't know how to do that. i do know that.dennis knows how. we are in the last quater and i do enjoyed reading the coments. talk to ya'll later. ken

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Ken, the Studebaker Starlight coupe (1953-55) was one of my favorite cars. People did joke about whether it was coming or going. Nothing really changes. In 1998 both my daughters bought identical VW Beetles and people wondered which was the front end and which was the back. My oldest daughter still has hers with over 300,000 miles.

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Ken, I remember in about 56 the Silver Hawk had some little hood scoops with a fuel injected engine, It had 160 mph on the speedometer. nothing could touch it. the one I saw was at a community dance where teens went. I wasn't but about 15. I think the Golden Hawk was more of luxury car. When I was skydiving yrs latter a member had an Aviate that had a blower on it made by Stud. the one I saw was kind of square and white. I don't know what yr it was but was told they didn't make very many....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm
Date: 05 Aug 2010
Time: 17:31

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helmut, remember the edsel hech i was in high school. we guys used too say is it coming or going same as the studbaker. but the edsel did have a big oval shape center grill. we boys had something to say about that to. way back when. ken

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I remember the ST Edsel I saw, It was at a new car show in late 57, they were all called S that was when the dual headlights came out, the Edsel was very expensive and ugly. It had a big Marauder engine, it had push button auto-trans buttons in the middle of the steering wheel. I sat in it but have never road in one. I'm sure they had different models. It broke my heart to see Chevy change, my last yr aboard the Hanna. I bought a 58 Mec convertible with the Marauder engine and it had 2-4 bbls, It sure loved gas stations and the rear tires sure liked to be changed.....Charlie

Name: Robert Nordstrom
Email_Address: rnordstrom32@yahoo.com
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1957-1959
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V3 Div
Date: 05 Aug 2010
Time: 16:09

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Looking for shipmates who served on the ship with me.

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Tim, the early Saabs were polluters because you had to mix oil with the gas just like an outboard engine. A friend of mine was a Mass. State Trooper. One day he stopped a Saab that was speeding. When he looked at the registration he discovered that it was a three cylinder. He had the driver open the hood so that he could look over the engine. He was impressed and let the driver go with a verbal warning. By the way, according to the Salem News, one of the Edsels is coming from Idaho.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm
Date: 05 Aug 2010
Time: 14:24

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do yall'll remember the studabacker that had a supercharge engine? think it was in mid 50's never seen one but i always would get motor trend manuel read about it . i think the chevy carveir came out with a supercharge 4 cly. in early 60's. when i got out of navy went and got me a 60 impala with a 348. my older bro. told me you got a champayne appetite with a beer sallary. mom had to finish last 800.00$ to get it done.ken

Name: Tim Mullen
Email_Address: timcathy_mul@hotmail.com
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 64-66
Division_Squadron_Detachment: AG V-2
Date: 05 Aug 2010
Time: 14:06

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Hemut, My wife's folks owned an Edsel when they first came out. At that time we lived in Northern Idaho. Lot of people had a lot to say about the vehicle. Same thing about the front wheel Saub.

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Edsels are descending on the Witch City. The Edsel Owners Club is having their annual convention in Salem,Mass. this weekend with a show on Salem Common. I'm going to hobble over and hope to see some 1960 Edsels, especially the rare convertibles. Way back when, I only saw one 1960 Edsel and it was a 4-door. When I was in high school a doctor had a 1958 Bermuda station wagon in salmon paint and wood trim. What a beauty it was. When I caddied at Kernwood Country Club I got rides home in a few Edsels and other fancy cars. I personally never thought of it as a dud.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 05 Aug 2010
Time: 11:36

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phil,dennis, can't say it any better then that. maybe some of them view this web. least they will know how we feel about them. ken

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Phil, I wonder how they keep the stink down in Washington DC, Not only from all the politicians but all the lawyers that are there. Must be some real good breezes carrying the stink out to sea. Of course the politicians are not there working very much so that probably keeps the stink down a lot. Dennis

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Charlie, That remind me of the stinch of the slaughter house at 3rd and Evans Streets in the Hunters point area of San Francisco in the 60's. They finally tore down all of that area in the late 60's. as for the gators, they probably won't eat most of them as a lot of them are politicians and they probably taste bad.

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Hi Ken, we have what they call "Porgy" boats here, theres a processing plant in Pascagula that takes fish oil from them to make vitamins and grinds the rest up for cat food. People are at fixed bayonets. It stinks so bad in east Biloxi you can't breath on beach dr. one tore it's trawls and tons of them drifted ashore around our biggest and best casinos. the company's got skimmers sucking them up. I guess they've made skimmers for everything anymore. It's been like 3 monkeys trying to play football down here. next yrs got to be better. we are flooded with out of state people contractors for BP has brought down. It's a wonder those Cajuns in S La haven't fead a bunch to the gators.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.ne
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 04 Aug 2010
Time: 14:47

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charlie, got to say hi. ken

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This wk is turning out good, the news from the Naval Home I get said I should get reporting orders the 1st wk in Sept and projected move-in 18 Oct- 5 Nov. I have been looking all over for my will, power of attorney an legal stuff as you know the Gov requires and struck gold, I found it. Re-enlisting is easier all you have to do is sign a stack of papers. I think they have about gotten that damn oil well under control....Charlie

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Ken, we do need new input bad, I'm trying to cut back on my motor mouth so someone will post. you can only talk until it gets boring to shipmates. There was a pretty good bunch here for a while."Old Salt" said he wanted us to use the fum, I tried it once and it was just one on one nothing group..... Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 03 Aug 2010
Time: 15:25

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sorry scott. i was to quik i meant john ken

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958=1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m. div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 03 Aug 2010
Time: 14:43

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robert,mike,david,warren,scott. ya'll need to join us.charlie,dennis pete, ken. we do keep in touch with each other on this great webb. we need some new blood. welcome aboard. ken.

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Welcome aboard Warren, G Division has been giving some input lately, I don't know much about you guys. They had GM's and then Airdales with a few others thrown in. Some worked tuning up missles? My Divison was mostly MM's.....Charlie

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Ken, doing great, don't worry about me, Toni called and has 5 day's off from work and a week end on both sides.She will have a little longer to stay with me than usual. She had her 1 yr anniversary today at her TV station and is happy to not be last man in the chain of Command. I'm just going around in circles like the Hanna used to do waiting for the time to pull into port.... Charlie

Name: scott koblitz
Email_Address: johnmooks@yahoo.com
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1971- 1975
Division_Squadron_Detachment: radio man
Date: 02 Aug 2010
Time: 17:15

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im not scott koblitz, im his son in law..everyone who will read this im asking for your help to find my wifes father...he station in the philippines, in subic naval base..the only information we is his name and the ship, my wife was born march 23 1974...mary jane abdon dizon...pls. do help us, this is my e mail ( johnmooks@yahoo.com) or cp no. (+966540791516)...thanks and god bless everyone

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 02 Aug 2010
Time: 15:02

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charlie, dennis, or any of my shipmates. just listen to TimGraw song. way back when. thats tells the story of what has happen. and that is not political ken. charlie, are you doing ok?

Name: Warren D. Wilder
Email_Address: WW2356@aol.com
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1973-1975
Division_Squadron_Detachment: G Div/Weapons Dept.
Date: 02 Aug 2010
Time: 12:00

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Just found site.Nice

Name: David Byrum
Email_Address: dtbyrum@gmail.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1961-1964
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V-4 Div
Date: 02 Aug 2010
Time: 10:29

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Robert & Mike glad to see you on the site, I thought there were only two crew members on the Hancock. LOL

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Ken, Win-Dixie is a grocery chain, I've only seen them in the South.....Charlie

Name: Mike Anderson
Email_Address: rambler34us@yahoo.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1972 - 1975
Division_Squadron_Detachment: 5th Div. Weapons Dept.
Date: 01 Aug 2010
Time: 18:18

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Looking for any of the gun crew. Or mag crew.

Name: Robert Nordstrom
Email_Address: rnordstrom32@yahoo.com
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1958-1959
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V3Div
Date: 01 Aug 2010
Time: 17:10

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Looking for old buddies on the hanna.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm
Date: 01 Aug 2010
Time: 15:56

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charlie, it is not my son inlaw it's my brother inlaw.that does get very confusing. ken.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.n.t
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 01 Aug 2010
Time: 14:29

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charlie, got to know what is a win dixie we do not have any of them, that i have seen. we do have HEB. and surper s heb is the power house. witch is good my chief works for them. think she is getting ready to retired. time for me to go back to work. bet my son in law that lives in senora kentucky and his daughter is coming in on 6th of sept.. can't wait he is retired from army good man . ken.

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Ken, I give my new computer a little break, we still have some head butting to do. when you buy a new computer anymore so much is temp files running in the background that pop-up telling you have so many days to buy it, they are hell to weed out of your root directory, I'm not in to good of mood this AM and would be a good time to put it at parade rest.....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div.aft.eng. rm.
Date: 31 Jul 2010
Time: 13:55

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charlie, where you able to make friends with your new computer? it is getting very hot in tex. heck we are use to it. later ken.

Name: Charlie Rid ens
Email_Address: Valhalla1@cableone.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1960-1964
Division_Squadron_Detachment: A Division
Date: 30 Jul 2010
Time: 23:05

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I bought a couple t-bones at Win-Dixie, I could have bought a new Cadillac cheaper than a cow? When I give CuJo a bone she won't turn it loose until it's gone, I may be sleeping with part of a bone tomorrow night. I think the only t-bones I got on the Hanna was when I mess cooked in the Chiefs mess. I could come in off liberty and throw one on the grille. A few Chiefs would would wake up to the smell and I would throw some more on. It was good duty actualy. The cook was 2nd class with hash marks from his elbo to his wrist, I had to go to the bake shop to pick up pies, I think they had pretty good duty also....Charlie

Name: Charlie Ridens
Email_Address: Valhalla1@Vableone.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1960-1964
Division_Squadron_Detachment: A Divison
Date: 30 Jul 2010
Time: 02:24

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Ken, I've gotten my new computer in and I'm trying to make friends with it. I had to download a bunch of upgrades. The built in speakers sound like crap. I still have a ways to go,....Charlie

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Ken, I've gotten my new computer in and I'm trying to make friends with it. I had to download a bunch of upgrades. The built in speakers sound like crap. I still have a ways to go,....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 29 Jul 2010
Time: 18:04

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charlie, hope you did not die on me. you are getting very close to cujo future. took coco to lake last weekend. she swam for 3 days she laid for 2 days but she did enjoyed it.cujo will be very well taking care of. i know when coco dies. it is not going to be a good month. ken

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 29 Jul 2010
Time: 10:26

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charlie. about a year ago got into flight simulator hot and heavy. my kids just laughted said i was a crasy old man. it did help me on computor. have put it on back bunner for now. will see if i can find "the last detail" later ken.

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Ken, I got some DVD's in that I orderd, "The Last Detail" with Jack Nicolson is great. You'd like it.....Charlie

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Dennis, to me I have loaded my computer with to many programs that run in the background that I thought I would like to have and never used, I could add more memory, but one thing a lot of people overlook Is your processor works harder and gets hotter. they make high capacity fans that gamers put on them. I don't need a air craft carrier to fly a piper cub from. I used to have fun with those flying programs but always crashed landing. They had a book thick as a dictionary you suppose to read....Charlie

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Charlie, that sounds like it will be plenty big enough to do the job.I found a MP4 player on the internet that has 32GB RAM and you can add expansion cards. I have one mini SD card with 8GB on it and it has 6 movies on it, this thing plays movies, shows photos, Music and even has a radio tuner built in. It only cost me $ 34.00 and is smaller than most cell phones. The screen is 2 1/4 inches by 1 1/2 inches so you gotta watch close but is great when you are stuck in an airport or something to pass the time. It was made for much younger eyes than mine but it is viewable. Take care and enjoy your new toy when it gets there. Dennis

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Dennis, I bought a Sandisk USB 2.0 flash drive with 8GD for $18 at Walmarts. I transferd an empty folder to it just to see if I could, It flashed a litle red light and it was there. I'm like a kid waiting for xmas to get my new computer. It will take me a little to get it the way we can live together. It has 180 GB hard drive witch is more than I need....Charlie

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Charlie, a correction on my last post, they are called Flash Drives. Check the internet at a place called "Ben's Bargains.com" They have a 16GB stick for $ 25 to $ 28 dollars with shipping. It is just a site that lists sales and great bargains, no membership, no fees, and no junk email, just a place you can browse different bargains and some not so great but all in all it is a good place to check first. No used stuff like eBay and some bargains are at Staples or Best Buy, Walmart. They do the leg work for you and just post it they are not involved except for the information they pass on. Dennis

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Charlie, What you are referring to for saving files is called a Memory stick, it has a USB plug at one end. Look on eBay for one as they are way cheaper than buying it at a retail store. I have about 5 or 6 of them up to a 16GB but use a 2GB one most of the time. On your address book the best way is to print it out if you can in case you can't transfer it, you would have to re-type it in again but you will have a hard copy of it just in case. I just upgraded my computer a month ago and my wife's about two weeks ago. Mine is running Windows 7 and has a 500GB hard drive plus a second hard drive with 320GB, love it and it is fast with a 19 inch wide screen monitor. Dennis

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Dose anyone remember when a guy escaped from a Marine? we were at Sea, where did the idiot think he was going. they searched everywhere, even the 02 plant, I think they found him in a vent duct....Charlie

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Keb I think they schedule ports of call where 2 Carriers wouldn't be in at the same time thank God. That would be a mess. I have told a couple guys they needed to catch a taxi back to ship if they were to messed up for their own safety. they did but I'm not sure they went back to ship.In CC where the XO is they had some Sp's riding with Police Officers so they would be taken back to base instead of the slammer. I think about the time I went in the Cb's they had a new Master at Arms rate. we had a 1st Class Boat's and and Quarter Master. That was HQ company, I think they kept the Quarter deck running and made out watch bills. I don't know how the SP list worked on the Hanna, I just got a memo from Division. We may only had a platoon of Marines. I don't think they pulled MP duty......Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 28 Jul 2010
Time: 15:27

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charlie, read your post, just give me a shout will send you a reply. enjoyed your comment on sp.duty. it was you not glory or power. later ken.

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I ordered me a computer that has everything in the monitor except the keyboard and mouse. It's a 18.5 screen with Win XP home. $399 free shipping and no tax because it shipped out of state. I think I'll get one of those sticks I can put the stuff I want to keep off this computer, It's always a mess jacking with the cable co geting my e-mail straight. It's only about 9 lbs, Toni will be here in the 2nd week of Aug, maybe she can fix my mess-ups, I will keep this one going until I get it right. I might need you guys that e-mail me to send me a note to pick you up in my address book. I'm trying to down size because my room at the Naval Home will be a lot smaller than where I am now....Charlie

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Jim that was a great link, My Father hit Normandy on the 2nd wave, he made it all the way to Belgium before getting hurt with a 88, the battle of the bulge. He signed up for the Rangers in boot camp to make more money. He liked the BAR but was a rifleman. when I was a boy he used to wake up sweating with war dreams real bad. he didn't tell me much for yrs, and one day he would talk about it when I was a young teen. he told me he staid sea sick on the troop transport all the way to England. he said those German buzz bombs made a loud pop before the came down and everyone took cover.....Charlie

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Ken, the worst thing in the world was to pull SP, nobody that I knew of put anyone on report. In Hawaii the Hasp were tough, in Okinawa they had a joint Military Patrol that was tough. I pulled it at the sub base in Pearl and took my shoulder band off and put it under the bar with me club and let them beat the crap out of each other. I sit back there with the waitress's. I went back to ship without any new scars....Charlie

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I went on liberty In Alameda, I was young for 2nd class and couldn't drink in street cloths, but in uniform I didn't get carded because the beer maids assumed I was old enough, It's crazy that guys working for you can get a cold beer but I couldn't. I fell in love and couldn't find my socks the next am and she gave me a pair of white ones and droped me off at the gate, bell bottoms and white socks don't mix with Marines, The Gate Guard put me on report. I told the Chief and he laughed and said forget it that he would tear it up. that was the only time I was ever put on report in my 20 yrs....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 27 Jul 2010
Time: 16:47

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dean, my spelling might not be right. ya'll the marines did a very good job on Hana. a crew of 3000 kept it going for the USA. that;s the way it is. the navy secuity was good too. ken

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Dennis I remember the 2 Cods with mushrooms on top. I was told they were what give the Hanna Pilots early warning. I never was topside to watch them launched but I think the put a lot of hrs in because at least one would be gone most of the time. The book you read, My son was a BT on a 'Tin Can" for several yrs when he 1st went in, typical BT always griping about his hot,dirty job, He really screamed when they change him to a MM and sent him to gas turbine school, when he went aboard his 1st FFG he loved it because when they put the metal to the peddle it would kick a rooster tail out and go. he said if it made a high speed turn he would be thrown to a bulkhead, I told him to order him some seat belts. He had so much sea time in when he went to the board for MC interview he knew everybody on it. they took him to the club to celebrate his promotion before the paperwork was done, of course he had to pay the beer tab....Charlie

Name: Dean Dunn
Email_Address: c0219@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 56,57,58
Division_Squadron_Detachment: MarDet, 7th Div.
Date: 27 Jul 2010
Time: 14:19

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The F8U is the plane John Glenn set the cross country speed record in. SWP: We had 5. A Navy jg comes up and wants to go in. The Marine PFC checks his list and his name is not ther, the jg, says he's going in anyway. The PFC pulls his .45 cranks one in the champer, puts it to his head and says, "no sir you are not". The officer put the Marine on report and they went before the Capt. His response, "your lucky you didn't get shot."

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Bill, I bet if you could look at them now they would have "Made in China" written on them somewhere ! Charlie, we did have two A3D's when we left on a cruse but they were not aboard all the time, I guess that was to free up space because they were so big the same with the two WF "Willie Fudds" (the ones with the radar dome on top of them) which were like our COD "Carrier on Deck" the twin engine Grumman used for mail and personnel transfer. Those aircraft were usually stationed at some airfield near where we were operating but still assigned to the Hanna. I just finished a very good book called "The Last Stand Of The Tin Can Sailors" Fantastic book about the last Naval gun battle and where the first aircraft carrier was sunk by gunfire instead of torpedoes or aircraft. It took place around the PI during McArthurs landings in the PI. A very recommended book for anyone interested in Navy history at it's finest. And it took place where we operated most of the time in the PI. Dennis

Name: Bill Pingel
Email_Address: wpingel@aol.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1970-1973
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V-1 Division
Date: 27 Jul 2010
Time: 06:51

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Hey Pete……..Your right about the Marines they were serious. On the hanger deck we couldn’t get within 10 feet of the birds. But then they’d come up stairs and it was a different story, my blue shirts would have to lay down right under the belly so we break down the chains. Lots of time to look them over and read everything on them. I’m sure we thought we could tell which ones were real and which we dummies by the writing on them but who knows. Take care….Bill

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Ken, I think in our days we may have had 2 at the most. I have no idea what they did with them when we went into the yards or home port? maybe a squadron flew them off as they did with their aircraft. I'm sure they had a special detail for them. I think it was out of site out of mind kind of deal. I never really thought about them but it was spooky seeing one, I think they were close to the same kiloton as Hiroshima...Charlie

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Dennis, I just looked up the A3D up. It was the largest strategic bomber carriers had in our days, as I read it they were modified to milk cows in later yrs. Pete knows more than he wants to tell :) I had an air dale take me to the missile shop once. I only got to the front part and they were tuning up a sidewinder. I couldn't go past the shop. they let me take a cigarette and run it in front of the headlight and watch the fins turn. I hoped the darn thing didn't take off and chase me around the room, I was on ammo loading parties before, the payload they used were in heavy coffee cans. I asked if they had can openers, they said they had plenty.....Charlie

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Bill as I remember it was it was about the size of fuel sponson aircraft carried for longer range. I was told the A4 could lift it but didn't know. I think in my days they would deni it rather than take a chance flying it around. I have no idea if they ever lauched one off the deck. that night I saw it you had better keep your distance or face a Marine with a 45....Charlie

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Charlie, during our time we did pull into Japan with the big ones aboard but never told. Part of the treaty with Japan at the end of WWII was we were never to bring any kind of Nukes in with us. I know we never off loaded them like in later years. We just never talked about it. Our 1960 cruse book has a 3 3/4 times 5 3/4 inch chunk missing out of page 168 because someone took a photo of one of the nukes and it actually got printed. They confiscated all books and "Edited" them all. The A3-D was the guy that would carry them if needed and yes we parked them just aft of the Island and behind "Tillie" When Jim and I would park them the rear wheel was about 4 inches from the gutter and we always felt that that big suckers would slip and drag us over with them. Their nick name was "The Wale" and I see why they were called that. Dennis

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I seen the big one we had during my days, It was on a single cart heavy as heck. They took it to #1 elevator. I thought they put it on a A3 because a BT member here told me that had stack watch that watched it for smoke. said the practiced loading it on a A3 but never lauched it. Japan was touchy. we had a boiler go down and had to pull in for emergency repairs. They were raising cain about nukes at the time....Charlie

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MORE LIFE MEMBERS; Another group that will not be paying dues henceforth: #394 Paul Coppenbarger, 5th, 44-45; #395 Kenneth Ebbers, VB-7, 44; #396 Lewis Riggles, 7th, 44-45; 397 Karl Stewart, M, 43-45; 398 Gene Rieland, B(BT3) 60-62; #399 Harold Washburn, GM, 64-66.

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Roger that Bill, I will neither confirm or deny we had the big one aboard (actually did not know, above my pay grade :). Practiced loading a lot tho. As a loading officer, did not want to loose even a practice guy over the side if the ship rolled. Paper Work!!! The Marines took there job seriously, you had to have the the proper ID to get close to the plane evern if you were the O'in Charge! Good for them! A-3's were the tankers on my '73 cruise. Us A-4 guys were it in '75.More.Pete

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 26 Jul 2010
Time: 15:53

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charlie, when i was onboard i had to check brgs. temp. on output shafts from aft. eng. rm. when you went down latters if a door was open don't remember where that big mother was their. so that is 2 do not know if their was more. ken

Name: Bill pingel
Email_Address: wpingel@aol.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1970-1973
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V-1 Division
Date: 26 Jul 2010
Time: 14:26

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Charlie………… by the time I was on board we had small ones, they could be carried on an A-4. Every time we went to Japan we had a fly off to send them all back to PI. Japan was a nuclear free zone, they wouldn’t let us in if we had them on board. We also launched the A-3 a lot, we used them as tankers.

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Helmut as I remember they kept Tilly parked right behind the aft side of the of the island structure, we had I think 2 A3's I have never seen one fly, It had twin engines and as I was told it could carry the bomb. I only seen it once on the hangerdeck coming up off the elevator in a cart, it was darken ship and had an armed Marine with it, It was painted silver. I think they called condition Arad which shut the radar down. It was spooky to me. I don't know how many Hanna had but have never thought about them before....Charlie

Name: John LeJeune
Email_Address: scrollman60@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1964-1966
Division_Squadron_Detachment: VF211
Date: 26 Jul 2010
Time: 09:57

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We had a pilot catch the barricade don't remember which year but the pilots name was Chancy flying an F-8E

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NEW MEMBERS: The following are new members since 1 June 2010. If you want their contact info before the Sept issue of Hannah News comes out, contact me. James R. Elbe, VA-55(ASH3), 68-71, Vic D'Agustino, B(BT2)67-68, Phil Graver, N (QM2) 69-71, Gregory Langley, OP(PH2), Fred Roehrbein, V-2 (ABH3), 66-69, Stephen Tomeck, Mar Det 69-71. Welcome Aboard Shipmates.

Name: Wayne Erven, Life Member #3, Membership Chairman
Email_Address: oldsalt2@comcast.net
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1965-1968
Division_Squadron_Detachment: Ops Office
Date: 25 Jul 2010
Time: 11:25

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NEW LIFE MEMBER. Our 38th new Life Member since 1 June: #393, Louis Blunt, SK2, S1 Div, 68-71. Louis will never have to pay dues again. How about you?

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Wikipedia is very interesting reading about the F-8, Dean that front landing gear you were talking about got the nick-name of the "Ensign Wheel" It broke record speeds at China Lake in 56, It had the highest kill ratio of any aircraft in Vietnam 19:3, It was a day fighter. It told about it's yawl problems. It was retired in 99....Charlie

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I was on the 07 level watching landings when one of VA-212's A-4s landed. No sooner had the plane stopped that the pilot popped the canopy, climbed out of the cockpit and dropped to the deck. He started running toward the island when he tripped and fell. He got up and started running again. Suddenly the A-4 exploded and was engulfed in a ball of flame. I estimated that this event took about 20 seconds. After the crash crew put out the fire, Tilly pushed the wreck over the port side. I witnessed all this action and I didn't have my camera with me.

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Dean I watched them pratice putting that Nylon Barrier up once, I've never seen it used, To me that F-8 was a jet engine with a saddle on it. It didn't look like Pilots had much room in it ? Mike I got my Hanna news in the mail, thanks......Charlie

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Charlie Riddens: A Crusader came in and broke his landing gear. He hit his afterburner and started to climb. The Navy I guess was thinking they would bring the ship aboard by setting up the nylon barrier. Some confusion. Another crusader came in and hit the nylon barrier and took it clear off the ship. It was hanging over our gunmounts by the tail. the pilot jumped in the water and was picked up by a destroyer that was running plane guard. In the mean time the other crusader ditched. Pilot ejected and was picked up. While the crusader was being dragged in the water, held by the tail to the naylon barrier, a boatswains mate came up, and I would assume under orders, took out his knife and cut the nylon barrier and the plane went to the bottom. Another crusader in that same period, came in and broke his front landing gear. As he ejected the plane rolled left and he ejected into the water. He didn't make it. Later in the cruise, we lost thre Navy and one Marine pilot.

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Also, I was working or at least attended a two day meeting. Managed to stay awake (well most of the time). Good flights out and back from Boston. Pretty bad weather in Colorado Springs on Tuesday when I flew in. I missed it, but there were severe T-Storms and even a Tornado (according to the local news) later that evening.Pete

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Charlie, I did not fly the F-8 off the boat, only the A-4. I was with my first squadron at Cecil Field, FL when I was flying the F-8 in '70. Aboard the Hannah, I flew the A-4F. With regards to the bouncing around on the trap, I believe since the F-8 was low to the deck, any drift in lineup at the trap would cause an assymetric load and cause the wire to pull the a/c around. You certainly knew when you had trapped, especially if you forgot to lock your harness. Broke one or two helmet visors on the glare shield:) Would get one's attention!Pete

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Come on Pete, were you really working? Hey Pete fly this Crusader for us, we have a discussion going on about it. all I know is what I thought you and the XO said about it a while back. I never understood how you Pilots could push your aircraft to the limits and hoped it would stay together.....Charlie

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Reporting my return aboard from another successful TDY to Colorado Springs (work this time). Think I am done with travel until Tailhook in Sept. Hi Charlie.Pete

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Dean, that front landing gear did take some punishment, I saw the Pilots bounce around like rag dolls when they hit. I watched them from the Vultures roost. I don't think you'l go it the drink if you catch a wire? We had one hit the ramp and I think another had a problem on launch and went into the drink but verd to the port side to keep Hanna from running over him an ejected as he hit the water. I never have accused a fighter Pilot of haveing good sense. The flight deck crew was about as bad. I felt safe under the armor deck.....Charlie

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Charlie: The Hancock was the first ship to take the Crusader into operations. We lost five of them before we got out of Hawaii. There was a fault in the front landing gear which caused it to collapse on the hard carrier landing. I watched two go in the drink in five minutes. Whatever the problem was it seemed to have been fixed as we had no other losses to Crusaders during our WestPac cruise.

I still have my cruise books from the 57 & 58 deployments.

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shipmates, had the pleasure of seeing a tribute to john finn on our pbs station last nite while channel surfing. ie; kpbs, san diego. the program was ken kreamers "san diego, then and now ". the clip was well done and a live [at that time] interview with john. wish that i had had the chance to visit more with john when we met at the reunion here in sd. a very interesting man ! rob

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Dean, from what a couple of the Pilot's here have said was the 1st model's of that Crusader was that it was a nightmare to land because of a slow respose time of the throttle and had to land it at a higher speed less than ideal to control it. I think Pete flew a Hotrod version in later yrs. Hey Pete I think we have a big thunderhead coming our way you can fly around:), I liked that story....Charlie

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Rob, I learned yrs ago to spray WD 40 in the carb of a lawn mower to crank it if its set up for a while. it won't give it a dry start like eaither that washes the oil for the piston. The SeaBee's hate'd pony engines they had to use eaither on to crank to spin the main engine in cold weather, some large equipment you can't push off because the hydralic's don't work until the main is cranked..... Charlie

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Rob, the gun captains in 58 were Sgts Barlean and Sgt Posey. The Navy gunnersmate was a 1st class named McCain, a WW11 vet.

Sgt Posey is gone now, but I am still in contact with Sgt Barlean and Sgt Blaney.

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Dean, I always heard we were the big dog on the block. In home port it seemed like we spent as much time at Hunters Point as in berth getting new stuff put on us. She was fast also, My 1st cruise scared me to death, We got in a storm and I thought she was going to come apart. the screws came out of the water and when they went back in she would shudder like a dog passing a peach seed. I knew I couldn't swim home.....Charlie

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Rob Morris: On our 1957 cruise, Jim Blaney was gun Capt. of one of the 5 inch guns. I will email him and ask the name of the other gun Capt. I will also email others to see who the gun Capt.'s were during the 1958 cruise. I was on Jim's gun during the 57 cruise, before I went topside to the Sky radar gun directors.

Concerning the F8U Crusader: The Hancock was the first carrier to take it into operation. 1958. We lost several of them. Also the Sidewinder was displayed to SEATO that came aboard in 1958. The Hancock in 1958 was the most powerful ship in the world.

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Dean, many thanks for the come back. as you could tell i was on local control just hopeing that you might have been on that crew or could remember who it was. Wayne, the bunks in the para loft were on the port side [end of the loft] and one morning at o'dark30 a spad dropped a wheel off the deck and stuck a prop blade thru the deck above the bunks during respot, talk about a noise and an almost brown fart sack cover. Charlie, you are most welcome for the WD40 info. noticed that they did not mention it burns. was fishing and ran out of fuel 1 time .sprayed WD into the carb and almost got to shore without paddling b4 we ran out of the stuff. smooth sailing mates, and thanks for the come backs ! rob

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Dennis I think by the time I came aboard Sidewinders and radar expanded defensive range. The gun tubs were gone. They had safety netting and LOX stations to fill carts. We had that COD with the big mushroom on top. I rememger us pulling a sled and the Crusaders straffing it. I loved that plane, It just had go fast written all over it. Were you aboard when the Russian Bear flew over at low level with Crusaders escorting it......Charlie

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Dean, by the time I came aboard all we had left were the four 5 inch and a salute gun. I wondered about protection and they said if they get past the fighters we are done for anyway so don't worry about it. Newer and stronger weapons plus loft bombing. I guess I had seen too many WWII movies. I knew that the crews were good on the ones we had even if some one got through the aircraft. We had a great bunch of Marines on the Hanna but I never saw many up where I worked unless some Marine Airedales came aboard for carrier quals. Dennis

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Our task force was in a line to shoot at a radio controled drone. Destroyer fired first and missed, the heavy cruiser Worchester broad sided at the drone and missed, the Hancock opened up with 4 five inch guns and several 3 inch guns and missed. The last ship in line was a destroyer. They took one shot and knocked it out of the sky.

When shooting at socks, we knew the Navy didn't want us to really hit it, but we wanted to score a hit. I would take the controls out of automatic and track manually. Thats how we would hit the sock. I guess I can tell that now after 53 years.

Name: Wayne Erven, Membership Chairman
Email_Address: oldsalt2@comcast.net
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1965-1968
Division_Squadron_Detachment: Ops Office
Date: 21 Jul 2010
Time: 16:26

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MORE LIFE MEMBERS who will not have to remember to pay dues again: #384 Donald Abrahams, V-2, 44-45; #385 William Flansburg, V-2, 45-46; #386 James Franklin, A, 45-46; #387 Russell Johnson, VT-7, ENS, Pilot, 44-45; #388 Martin Landon, G, 64-66; #389 Pete Lynch, MAJ, USMC Ret, VMF-214, 57; #390 William Riethmiller, OI, 63-66; #391 Allen Steiner, GM (AO3), 63-65; #392 William Zagone, H, 45-46

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I ordered me a keyboard today that has 1" big yellow keys, now all I need is a decent spell check.....Charlie

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Charlie, if you wire up a house without any circuit breakers or fuses and everything else is good no problem, but if you have any short or overload it is like placing a wire between the terminals of a car battery, something is gonna burn at least till the wire burns itself open which is what a fuse or circuit breaker does. For Dean Dunn, I remember how good you guys were on the 5 inch, you would knock down the drone, shoot the sock off the tow aircraft usually within the first one or two shots and piss them off. You were only supposed to get close to the drone so it would trigger the chute and drop it, you guys blew one right out of the air and they were only 5 or 6 feet long. Loved to watch it. Dennis

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Dean... On my last cruise, my berthing compartment was in a wide spot in a passageway on the outside bulkhead of the ship. The port rear 5 inch gun mount couldn't have been more then 50 feet away and when they fired those guns it sounded like you were in a large galvinized garbage can with someone wailing on it with a sledgehammer! I always hated it when they shot those things off. (Especially if I was coming off of the 4-8 watch!)

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Ken I was refering to a house with overloaded circuits.... Charlie.

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NEW LIFE MEMBERS who will not have to worry about forgetting their dues again: #372 Robert Benedict, AMM, 44-45; #373 John Blaul, V-2, 45; #374 Thomas Dobbins, V-1, 68-71; #375 Max Fryar, YNCM Ret, Eng Log Room, 54-55; #376 Robert Hirst, VB-6, 45; #377 Allen Jones, R, 58-61, #378 James Perotte, V-6, AT2, 53-54; #379 Jack Queen, B WT3c, 44-46; #380 William Robison, S-6, 73-76; #1 Edgar Schneider, E, 44-46; #382 Emmanuel Staudinger, VF-7, 44-45; #383 Kenneth Towers, CR Div Officer, 71-75.

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Fire Control Radar; There was a time in 1958, when an F8U Crusader broke a landing gear and had to ditch. The gun boss, Cmdr Crane got me on the head set and told me to track him. I tracked him on radar and the pilot was picked up within a minute of hitting the water. In 1957 a Marine plane went down in view of the ship in daylight. He fired a flare and we still couldn't find him.

What was awesome was when we would have firing exercises. I was the pointer in Sky 1 and when I was given the order to commence firing, I would pass it on the the crews and then squeeze my trigger. Four five inch guns would go off at the same time. After the first shot, they would then fire as fast as they could be reloaded.

Remembering!

Name: kenneth sureddid
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft eng. rm.
Date: 20 Jul 2010
Time: 15:52

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charlie, got to be a big copper line. getting close most likly the oil is their. hope they can get it cleaned up. big man made mistake. later ken.

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Dennis, what happens when a guy wires his home all on one circuit without a circuit breaker.?? ....Charlie

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Dean I think we had to pull into SF once useing fire control radar because of the fog. as I was told they had to shut the big radars down within a certain distance from land because of all the electrical interferance we gave the civilians. I don't know how much truth there is to this but somehow we didn't knock the Golden Gate down and made it back to berth....Charlie

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For Rob Morris: I am still in touch with one of the gun captains. I was in his gun crew before I went up top side to Sky 1 radar gun director. Over the two years though, there would have been different gun captains.

I remember putting the gun right through the side of an AD one time during air defense operations. The plane was spotted directly over our gun and I didn't see it.

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I started out this am separating some things I was going to take to the Naval Home. I give up, what am I going to do with my military kevlar body armor, helmet and 4ft genuine imitation Viking Sword. That thing must weigh 30 lbs, deploying military has given me a lot. the vest is outdated as they were issued a newer version. I think when D-day arrives I will take what I need and let my son worry about the rest, nothing better than delagating authourity......Charlie

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Dennis It's pathetic when they hide behind skirts and children. I don't remember what they call those little remote control spy planes but they would be a lot of help if there were boots on the ground to back them, most problems you can throw a parimeter around when detected. I'm sure you know Military and Law Enforcement tactics LE uses the same manuals as the Military, in the Seabee's we used US Army manuals as did the Marines. Pot is childs play up next to meth. All dope destroys family, neighbor hood and our schools infrastucture.....Charlie

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The best thing about taking out the dopers like that "It never happened" Another thing they would do is tie a duffel type bag on the back of a twin engine Beech craft or Piper Cub with a long rope. If spotted they could hit a release and it would drop, that way if they were forced down there was no trace of dope anywhere on the aircraft. They didn't have to land and potentially be set up in a trap delivering drugs. We just gotta keep trying every time they change we adapt to get them. Dennis

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Charlie, Years ago I was down in Tuscon, AZ doing fire inspections on active ICBM silos, got talking to some Navy pilots that flew coastal drug patrol between Cuba and the US. I asked "Isn't it frustrating when you know you got them and just can't shoot them down because you not only need miles of permission but have to account for any shots fired" "Just like a Cop that knows he has the bad guy but isn't allowed to do anything" One of them told me "If they just give us 50 feet below them , they are goners, we can swoop down under them and it sucks the air out from under them and in they go, but now they have taken to putting kids on their laps and they know an American won't take them down and kill a kid" Some very crazy crap goes on that no one ever hears about. Dennis

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Dennis, when I was in Germany they fired a signal cannon every mourning for colors. Guys were always putting a full can of beer in it. If the didn't check it before fireing they had a unguided missile. I heard one went though a window in dependent Qts across the grinder. The base was small and rebuilt from an old German instalation. Houseing was new. HQ was there not our tanks. The interiour walls of a lot of buildings had inset rifle racks for their Soldiers, All that stuff was interesting to me.....Charlie

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Dennis, you may already know this but linament that old people used to buy at a drug store will soak into a rusted stud or nut and bolt better, after soaking it for a while break it then use Wd 40 to remove it. It will help you from twisting studs off, I'm sure you no what a pain that is as many cars as you have rebuilt. car lugs also.I bought a thing at a tool store you put on lug nuts with a reduction gear that a kid can take them off....Charlie

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Charlie, here is another one for you. When I was working on cars or outside, I always seemed to cut myself some where, I would slap some duct tape on it and keep going. I swear that duct tape makes it heal faster. It heals cars in NASCAR so why not us. Also WD-40 works just as well as the high dollar fish attractant you can get at the bait store. It will lubricate good for a short time but not for the long haul. It also works great in a spud gun as it burns good and also lubricates the barrel for the next shot. Got my butt in trouble shooting a high power spud gun off in a campground, they considered it a firearm. Had a 4" diameter chamber going down to a 1 1/2 inch dia. barrel and would shoot a potato about 5oo yards. Dennis

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Rob, thanks for the e-mail about WD-40, I knew it was made from fish oil and knew an old woman that swore by it for her autharitis yours ago. Don't temp me :) that and duct tape makes the world go around .....Charlie

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Ken, to me the Hanna was like a giant puzzle and every person had to do their job or the puzzle wasn't complete. I had an easy job in 02N2. I just made a bad decision leaving the Hanna, going into other branchs of service. PS the checks in the mail to renew my membership so your going to have to put up with me a while longer....Charlie

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Dennis, I have always tried not to put a shot across someones bow. If they do mine I go to GQ and still do. the headshed isn't to crazy about it. life isn't always fair weather and following seas like when we used to go to the fantail and watch the Hannas screws churn up the phosphurious with bright stars and you airdales would knock all the racket off topside....Charlie

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Dennis...I never knew that so many of your family is currently serving. As far as I'm concerned, you've earned your right to sound off on this or any other site and that goes for your boys, too. We've all put our names on that dotted line and given up years to have that right. I think we can all handle a little discourse now and again, as long as it doesn't get reduced to name calling.

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HI,SHIPMATES BEEN TRAVELING FOR A G'DAUGHTERS WEDDING SO HAVE NOT MONITORED THE SITE FOR A WHILE [3 WEEKS +]. THE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT POLITICAL COMMENTS ARE RIGHT. THIS IS NO PLACE FOR THEM ! IF YOU WISH TO COMMENT GO TO THE "FORUM" AND THREAD THEM ! NEXT SUBJECT - WILL THE MARINE FROM THE DETACHMENT PLEASE CONTACT ME. I USED TO HAVE THE GUNNERS FROM THE AFT PORT 38'S COME INTO THE PARACHUTE LOFT FOR COFFEE AND WARM UPS. AM ESPECIALLY INTERESTED IN THE CORPORAL THAT WAS GUN CAPT [?] DO NOT REMEMBER HIS NAME THOUGH. THANKS IN ADVANCE. WILL PROBALLY HAVE MORE TO COMMENT ON AS I WADE BACK INTO THE ENTRYS. SMOOTH SAILING AND FAIR WINDS, ROB

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Dennis, I don't know about the peace keeper part, I just don't want the pot to boil over and try to turn down the heat. Like I told Gordon the most they can do is make us walk the plank. Things have made us a more davided Nation and more complicated. I take TV with a grain of salt. some people live by it. theres to much saturation. It's simple to me, go by the "Constitution" or "Bill of Rights" or get out of my life. I don't care what you are. I don't think DC has learned 1 thing from Nam, bring our guys home. we have a lot of work to do here...Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 19 Jul 2010
Time: 18:25

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dennis, charlie, i know that i had it very easy. i do think it was not that easy,for charlie,dennis pete. but i do know that dean is a shipmate. i was on Hancock for 1 year and 8 month. we do have to be careful wat's going on. ya'll have a good night. ken

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Charlie, I also have a son in law that has spent 4 tours over there and one in Bosnia and one in Korea and only has 15 years in, I wonder if he will ever get one of those soft stateside jobs. My step son has been in Latvia for 3 years now and is Michigan National Guard working out of the embassy. God bless all our troops wherever they are and God please give our leaders some brains for a change. That is the kind of change we needed not the loss of what little brains they might have had. I agree that DC needs a good enema and that the old ones corrupt the new ones, a fresh start on all fronts would be a good way to let them know the people are paying attention to them and to do right by those who put them in in the first place. Dennis

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Charlie, You sure have settled down a lot. Now I see you being a peace keeper on stuff you used to get in trouble over. I also have very strong views on what our government is become but like expressing them to my wife (who is politically completely opposite of me) I know when to pick my battles. The first trip I remember was near the middle of May 1962 we were going to head to Australia and they diverted us down off Nam to support the Marines landing in Cambodia. I believe that was the first involvement of a way they decided 10 years afterwords that we should have never been there.Typical government hindsight. I wonder how long after this latest fiasco it will take them to figure it out and how many bodies sent home. My granddaughter just got home from Baghdad after 7 1/2 months and hated it there, second trip over for her. Dennis

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Joe, I was aboard when we pulled out of Hong Kong. I had duty when we pulled hook, We thought we were going to Australia and we ended up with a mission in Cambodia. I know we left Hong Kong ahead of schedule. Dennis the walking encyclopedia will know more, I had no idea we left anyone behind. All I got was a good conduct ribbon from the Hanna and didn't deserve that......Charlie

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Thanks for the good words Mac, I have driven across Az many times. I really like it, to me it's land locked with no ocean. I just have strong feelings about things I have learned from past experance that might conflict with others. I do have strong feelings about states rights, There is a star on our flag for each one of them for that reason. some may call it politics but I call it history. I've learnd a lot from point of views of our shipmates.....Charlie

Name: Dahl T. "Mac" McChristian
Email_Address: DelMarC3Corvettes@comcast.net
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1961-1964
Division_Squadron_Detachment: M-Div Supply PO
Date: 18 Jul 2010
Time: 21:25

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Charlie Congratulations, I see that you are going to return to the New Naval Home and that you are doing well. I understand how you feel about CuJo.Charlie you are correct concerning John Finn What a Hero and a very Humble Man. I also did not know the man. Politics's We have the very best Governor , Jan Brewer here in Arizona.What is it that people do not understand about the word Illegal and the second word Aliens. Here in Arizona we have Diamondback Rattle Snakes, and one thing we Don't Rely on is the Rattlers Rattle to Warn us of Danger, They do not always Rattle Something like our Leaders in D.C. "Respectfully" Times are very Tough in this year of 2010 and we see no light at the end of the tunnel. Navy, Marines etc., Marine you served on board the USS HANCOCK CVA 19 Thanks for Your Service Charlie glade to see that you still have Top Watch. XO-MR TOM WIMBERLY, I received my Life Member Pin of 30 years in 2009 from my Masonic Lodge. Good Health to All

Name: Ray Rinaldi PR3
Email_Address: rayr1006@hotmail.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1957/58
Division_Squadron_Detachment: VA116
Date: 18 Jul 2010
Time: 19:01

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Dean, 2 years aboard for sure makes you a member, I feel politics should not be on this web. But you have to understand a lot of us old timers remember what it was like back in the 50s&60s and we are a little up set about the way the country is being run. Dont worry about being in the same class as WTC muslems. I dont think the other mates feel that way Take care Marine Ray

Name: Joe S. Garcia, Jr.
Email_Address: joesabra@hollinet.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1961-1964
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V-3 & V-1
Date: 18 Jul 2010
Time: 18:57

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Do you have the story of when we pulled out of Hong Kong leaving 1/@ the ships company and sailed full steam down to Viet Nam to fly cover for pulling out civilians. Then later on when we were again in Hong Kong, we left 1/3 ships company and again sailed down to fly cover for the civilians being pulled out of Laos and Nam. The guys left behind didn't like it because they didn't have any money or extra clothes. That was the latter part of 1963. Got a Epox medal for it.

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I got a call from Mike a little while ago and he sent me a copy of the Hannah news in my email. It is the best one I have seen to date. I never knew John Finn but he's a true Hero. It was in color, The pictures of the Ships bell were gerat. I've never seen the Bridge of the Hannah before, that was interesting. I got an e-mail from Wayne explaning to expeditionary ribbon better. It took him several years after the fact for personel to catch up. I found out my membership is up this mo so out with the check book. Mike ask me about the Naval Home and CuJo, he has 2 dogs that are very close to his family also. He ask about sending her to Toni but She has 2 in CC and I want to have her closer where I can visit. I have until late Sept to figure that out....Charlie

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Ray Rinaldi, The Sgt. that chewed your butt in 1957 was SSgt Roper, our Gunny. Believe me, I had my butt chewed out by him many times.

As for political comments. I made no reference to any party affiliation, did not mention any president or anyone that post here. It is a given that when someone starts to get political, they may offend someone else. At any given time the politics of people will be split at about 50/50.

Now because I made the statement that I didn't think this log should be used for political purposes, my name has now become associated with the WTC, muslems, God in our Pledge of Alliagence, etc.

I am active in the Marine Corps League and when we say the Pledge of Allegiance, God is included.

Having spent just a few days shy of two years aboad the Hancock, I considered myself as much a crew member as anyone.

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I got some kind of encrypted garble e-mail this AM. I have no idea what it is, I deleated it. I don't keep anything on my computer I don't know what was. It must have been sent to me by accident because it looked like crypto where the reciever has to have a key. I had a cryto book in Germany where they key would change during designated hrs and I would have to go to that page to get the key to read it or send a message back. I was in a Tank on the 5k zone at Fulda Gap....Charlie

Name: Phil Torres
Email_Address: phil.torres
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1965-1968
Division_Squadron_Detachment: E Div IC Gang
Date: 17 Jul 2010
Time: 21:20

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Pete Congratulations on you and your Mom being able to attend the dedication ceremony of the PBY that your father flew. It looks like a lot of work went into the restoration, Good job. Phil

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Mac, I just happen to think, this post of yours came through here good? I remember you saying you went to suppy and it was a gravy job. Try posting again... Charlie

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Lyn, I've been wondering about mine? the expiration date sapose to be on the Hannah News, I never got mine, I could already be cut off. I always trash the envelope and keep the news so I don't have any past ones. I'm waiting for the next. theres an application in the back of them I can send a check in.....Charlie

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Mac, I have no idea myself ? I haven't read your post in a long time. try e-mailing me. I will try e-mailing you....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 17 Jul 2010
Time: 19:17

Comments

donald, some of that stuff thay i post. it's american never been refused. one marine did not like it. do not know if he was trying to put a feather in his hat or not. but this sailor will be watching. ken

Name: Lynn Davidson
Email_Address: lynn.davidson@pokagonband-nsn.gov
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1971-1973
Division_Squadron_Detachment: 2nd Deck Department
Date: 17 Jul 2010
Time: 18:45

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Was member let my membership expire. Need to get back on board.

Name: Dahl T. "Mac" McChristian
Email_Address: DelMarC3Corvettes@comcast.net
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1961-64
Division_Squadron_Detachment: M-Div Supply PO
Date: 17 Jul 2010
Time: 18:39

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Donald Mettler: I was viewing the Quarterdeck Post /Comments late this evening and notice that all except one of my comments were removed. I request tom know the reason for the removal. The subject matter contained no Derogatory Statements Concerning Persons , Religion or Political Matter. This is the second occurrence and I would like to know if you have a problem with my post /comments and if so Confront me with same!!! I very seldom post any comments , although I enjoy reading them , while my wife and I are at our home in Miraflores , Lima Peru , and when we return to our home in Tucson , AZ. Then I will post to Charlie Ridens. Please feel free to contact me @ my my home in Tucson, AZ

I did the Email thing @ the Webmaster & Personal no success................................................................. Mac McChristian

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 17 Jul 2010
Time: 18:38

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just wondering, do know what you and mom put together was very good . and i got to see who pete the pilot was. and that"s a plus that"s is their. done moved it to ken"s folder. my kids----- and grandkits--- would never understand it anyway. i do. later ken

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Wayne, that Expeditionary Medal was always confuseing to me. It seem to me a lot was issued after reserch of a unit that personel dept didn't know if they had them coming or not so were not put on DD 214's, I had no problem with mine being in a MAG group hiting Nam. the 2nd trip I got the Vietnam Service Medal and could wear both. The Vietnam Cross of Gallantry you wore on the right breast on Army class A's because its not American. the Navy you don't wear anything that side. I got where I would give it all to my boss and say you fix these ribbons the way you want. The Navy never did know what to do with my Jungle Warfare Expert Patch. theres no ribbon....Charlie

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Ken, I assume you are refering to the pic with Wally Funk. He is the ex-publisher (did not know the man before) of the local Oak Harbor paper. VIP in Whidbey Island circles. Photo op was asked, and mother and I complied. Good man to know for fundraising for the PBY. Pete

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng rm.
Date: 17 Jul 2010
Time: 16:40

Comments

dean you got a respones. that's what the Navy does. in fac. i got one comimg. but ribbions and medals did not give us freedom. it was the people doing it. and you where a big part of it. glad you got one. lets go from here. ken.

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In reply to Dean who inquired if HANCOCK got any awards in l957-58 off Formosa (Taiwan Straits), the answer is Yes. If you served on board during the following periods, you are entitled to the Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal. Mike Verville, 2nd Vice President, researched this information.

26 Aug 57 to 7 Sep 58, l4-l7 Sep 59

Check Mike Verville's entry on the home page concerning awards. The same basic information applies on how to obtain this medal, and have a correction made to your DD 214. to this Medal.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 17 Jul 2010
Time: 15:49

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charlie, got to check in with my 1st. class. doing ok here, how's about you? back from liberty going to cut it back a little. later ken.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 17 Jul 2010
Time: 14:11

Comments

pete, this is me. i enjoyed the link, you and your mon look ok. the guy in picture if i might asked who is that?. ken.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal..net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft eng. rm.
Date: 17 Jul 2010
Time: 12:09

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Pete, The dedication of PBY that your Dad flew in World War 2 looks like it was very successful. Thanks for the pictures, articles and information. You both looked very well in the picture. Thanks Again, Ken

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Welcome back, Pete. I'm glad that you and your mother had a great time at your father's PBY ceremony.

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Roger That, Wayne. I did get to climb all over the aircraft the day before the ceremony. Got the "fam flight" the chief restoration guy. The plane is in remarkably good condition. Got a picture of me in the cockpit.Pete

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Pete, very impressive site. Did you get a chance to go up inside? What a thrill it must have been for your mother. As for the movement of the Coast Guard aviator on your plane home, it served as a reminder to all the civilian passengers that "Freedom is not free!"

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Welcome back Pete, the crew has missed you. the weather looked great up there in your pics. I liked Wa. state other than the weather. I've flown up there twice and driven once not counting in the yards with the Hanna. It is beautiful.....Charlie

Name: Pete Cole
Email_Address: petecole@earthlink,net
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1973-1975
Division_Squadron_Detachment: VA-212
Date: 16 Jul 2010
Time: 19:23

Comments

Shipmates, our plane on the return from Seattle to Boston had the honor to carry a fallen Coast Guard officer in the line of duty. There was a helicopter lost at sea the week before. Crew of four with one survivor. There was a nice ceremony on the ramp at Seattle when we were boarding Looking through the windows in the boarding area..police, fire, Coast Guard.. The JetBlue Capt asked everyone to wait for the Coast Guard escorts to deplane at Boston. Everyone was very respectful.Another ceremony on arrival. Pete

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Reporting my return aboard from TDY to NAS Whidbey Island. Mission to dedicate the PBY my father flew during the Aleutian Campaign in WII was successfully executed. My moment of fame is documented on the PBY Memorial Foundation web site: http://www.pbyma.org/. Check out the other photos of the ceremony by clicking the "photos" button in the menu bar. Was a nice ceremony, and Capt David, CO of Whidbey, could not have been more supportive. It was a perfict day and my mother was in her glory.Pete

Dr Ritter, welcome aboard squadron mate.

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Bill...One of the places I have wanted to visit before I die is Gettysburg. The last ships reunion was supposed to be my ticket into the New England colonies, but this years finances sort of snuck up and bit me on the ass. We had to cancel our trip to DC and the reunion. I hear that it's beautiful country and the history is really interresting. Enjoy your trip.

Name: Bill Burgess
Email_Address: blbrgss@aol.com
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1968-1972
Division_Squadron_Detachment: B-div
Date: 16 Jul 2010
Time: 05:34

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Hi to all shipmates, hope you are having a great summer. I'm spending time in Chambersburg, pa. for close to a month with Daughter, Grandaughter, & son inlaw. Plan to visit Gettysburg again this year, as it is close by. Also brought my mountain bike along, and have been doing some rides in the appalchian mountains, near the appalchian trail. The mountains are very beautiful, with lots of trees, (much differernt than in Calif). Take care all. Bill

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Wayne, I'm glad I wasn't with you, I know you'd hate to see a grown man cry, what a sad story. The last I seen her was in the PI. My memory isn't makeing sense though, I just came it for R&R from Nam to Subic, She was anchored out and a liberty lanch just came in from her. I almost road it back to her but didn't know if they would let me aboard. I was in a hurry to get to town and fall in love....Charlie

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Welcome aboard, Dr. Ritter. I read your entry about attending the Hanna's decommissioning. I wish I would have known about that, since I lived in San Jose that year. I was working in the Los Angeles area at that time and flew home on weekends. I was driving down the Harbor Freeway leaving San Pedro harbor and passed the Terminal Island ship yards when I saw a huge hunk of steel swinging in the wind from one of their cranes. I was totally awestruck when a huge white 19 showed up on the side! It was the Hancock superstructure being cut away from the flight deck. I stopped by the side of the freeway(which is illegal here unless it's an emergency) and spent a half hour watching the work going on. I was finally chased off by a highway patrol officer, but I didn't get ticketed after mentioning that I was on that ship in Vietnam. He must have been ex-military.

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Dr Ritter were you a Dr aboard the Hanna. I've only been to sickbay twice. once a couple days out of yokuska I beat on sickbays doors at 0:300 because critters were chewing on the pink parts, and the next time I told a guy to scrub my coffee pot. he used brasso, and I didn't know witch end to put in the pot. I still think it was a communist plot....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddinsbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div.aft. eng. rm.
Date: 15 Jul 2010
Time: 19:07

Comments

charlie, ken dose not believe in this stuff that went down. but that marine can go wherevery.charlie its getting close. and you got it coming. hope .to meet you one day.later ken

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Ray, they will have to pry this mouse out of my cold dead fingers. I will be here. I'm looking fwd to the Naval Home to be back with Military. It is all branches of service. when I was evacuated to DC very few ever saw a SeaBee before but know our reputation. I wore my SeaBee ballcap to the lounge one evening. guys were always bragging about their there branch of service, but they all respected the Bees, I've been fleet and Army also. AF schools were a joke. Jungle Warfare School in Panama liked to killed me, my hair even hurt...Charlie

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charlie, i think i will be loseing to talk. that's fine. but that marine better be careful. because this navy guy did not like the stamement he made. so we go from here.ken.

Name: Ray Rinaldi Parachute Rigger 3rd
Email_Address: rayr1006@hotmail.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1957/58
Division_Squadron_Detachment: VA116
Date: 15 Jul 2010
Time: 17:12

Comments

Charlie Good luck at the Navy home. Hope you take your computer with you. I would sure miss your commets on the web.Ken I know how you feel about this great country. Lets hope we are able to change things in nov.and 2012. Dean you had a buck sgt. on the 57 cruise. He had a handle bar mustach. He caught me in green country one day and chewed my butt out.Ray

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Be nice Ken, time to let the boilers cool a little. we don't want anyone to jump ship. A shipmate is a shipmate. I feel like a ton has been lifted off me getting the oil flow stopped. Get the Chief to bring you a cold beer. CuJo makes me get my own.....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 15 Jul 2010
Time: 15:46

Comments

charlie, dean can start his own web. this is what we have done for years. and it is not doing better.when them .muselim get it built. he can go worship it. are shut up. guess you can see i am amercan. he is american the one running it is not.in his meetings they where pons. they did a very good job in the wars.dean this is what i think, you might be different from me. have a good night ken.

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Dean, don't get your web belt in a wad, I'm a Sailor and could care less about your League. A couple of us let off a little steam so what. My last 11 yrs of service was in the SeaBees and been around you guys a lot. Unfix Bayonets, It blows over. Your Shipmate....Charlie

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Wayne: empty suit or skirt means no person of any significance inside of either one. This not only applies to the annointed one but to many others in congress. This is probably considered political in nature but I have never been accused and proven to be politically correct and probably never will be. Phil

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Dr Ritter I'm sure you had mixed feelings at the retirement of the Hanna. before I found this site I found one that had a picture of her all rusted up waiting to be scraped. It broke my heart. She was a great Ship. What part of the country are you in?.....Charlie

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VA-216 was known as the Black Diamonds. A diamondback is a snake and also a Colt revolver. I'm sure it would have been a fitting name.

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Hey Ken, I see they have the oil shut off in the Gulf. I Pray to God it holds. Katrina was one thing but this is a lot worse, We sure don't need a Huricane on top of this....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal. net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m. div.aft. eng. rm.
Date: 15 Jul 2010
Time: 14:05

Comments

dean, i do not know if you where pointing your finger at me for being disrespectful,if so fine.the ones that are disrespectful or the ones that took prayer,ten conmamments and are trying to take american flag down. now they want to put their victory semble over the 911 towers. you just sit their and let them do it. ken

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Welcome aboard Larry Charles. Now there are two or three of us from VA-216. I came aboard Hancock in Dec. 1964 so we may have not met. Although I was a Parachute Rigger striker, I was issued a brown shirt and worked for ADJ-3 Roy Starnes in the hanger-bay before finally making it to the loft.

Name: Larry Gene Charles
Email_Address: toni1585@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: .
Years_Aboard: 1964-1965
Division_Squadron_Detachment: Diamondback VA-216
Date: 15 Jul 2010
Time: 13:15

Comments

Was run over by an aircraft during my secord trip to Vietnam

Name: Bill Burgess
Email_Address: blbrgss@aol.com
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1968-1972
Division_Squadron_Detachment: B Div
Date: 15 Jul 2010
Time: 11:59

Comments

Thanks Dean, Refreshing to hear other opinions expresed on this site.

Name: Dr. Kenneth M. Ritter
Email_Address: kennethritterdc@gmail.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1963-1966
Division_Squadron_Detachment: VA-212
Date: 15 Jul 2010
Time: 11:53

Comments

Attended the decommissioning ceremony at Alameda, in 1976. Very sad day, but proud as well, to have been a part of this great ship!

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Dean I rememer them, luckys, and Camels, In Nam on patrol we had LURPS, and I think the chow tents had what they called K-rations. Later in the SeaBees we have MRE's. I've got a couple case's stored incase we have another bad hurricane....Charlie

Comments

Great to see our own website!

Name: Dean Dunn
Email_Address: c0219@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 56,57,58
Division_Squadron_Detachment: MarDet
Date: 15 Jul 2010
Time: 10:28

Comments

I first had C rations while going thru the Marines Cold Weather training. I recall pulling a cigerette out of a pack of Chesterfields and the tobacco ran out the other end of the cigerette. It was so cold, we had to heat our canteens to get a drink.

Chow on the Hancock was great.

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Thanks Dean, My 1st Cruise I got stuck on a landing party in the PI, we ate e-rations dated 1943, they must have been aboard Hanna since she was launched. they did have a full pack of butts in them. the Marines were smart enough to bring hot sauce and onions. I was on a air cooled 30 cal, That thing was a single shot. The Marine said it needed head spaceing and didn't have the tool that sapose to be in the bag with it. I know the Fleet Marines liked the Hanna....Charlie

Name: Dean Dunn
Email_Address: c0219@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1956,57,58
Division_Squadron_Detachment: MarDet
Date: 15 Jul 2010
Time: 10:03

Comments

One of the rules in the Marine Corps League is that polotics is not allowed to be discussed in any of our meetings. The Quarterdeck Log appears to be a sounding board for people to air their political views, some of which are disrespectful.

This is not the place to air your political laundry and should be monitored by the editor of the Quarterdeck Log.

Name: Dean Dunn
Email_Address: c0219@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1956,57,58
Division_Squadron_Detachment: MarDet
Date: 15 Jul 2010
Time: 09:55

Comments

The Marines were the 7th Div. in the gunnery dept. Their duties date back to John Paul Jones, when Marines were put on board ships. Initially they would be located between the crew and officers compartments, to protect the officers from the crew. Present day, traditionally the Marines are still quartered between the crew and officers. The duties when I was aboard were, manning 2, 5"-38 guns, the radar gun directors, guarding special weapons, the brig, riot control, the ships landing force, the captain and security of the ship.

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Wayne what disturbs me is Homeland Security and appointed Czars bypass Congress and the Constition in the name of National security on Prez orders. Everone sees what DOJ does but we're helpless. Supreme Court is so far left they should move it to SF. Calif has been bankrupt for yrs at tax payers expense. I have heard but don't know for sure China has deflated the dollar so we only have a AA rating on the world market. witch means what you have in the bank is worth less and prices go up...Charlie

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I guess I sound like a cynic, but I think I agree with you, Charlie. Any of the good senators or congressmen will be able to find jobs anyway and even if they don't they're set for life. Our country is controlled by two groups that only want control of the purse strings. The president is only a figure-head of his party and doesn't really have any power unless he convinces the congress to pony up for his vision. With the house and senate in one party's hands, the pocket-lining starts. We have to get the point across to the individual congressmen and senators that they will be removed if they don't follow through for the people that elected them. That would remove the vital nature of having the parties funding for re-election campaigns the highest priority. I believe that is what motivates the TEA party members, or at least the ones that I have spoken with.

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Ken, most Americans are not fools, I say again Americans, what is going on now to me is like ballet stuffing. they, (you no who I'm talking about) are useing illeagl, gays, changing drug laws, race and every thing else they can to stay aftoat. they messed in thier white hat with Az. If we don't get a change made in Nov we will really be hurting.To me toss them all out and start out fresh. the old ones will corrupt the new ones.....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft eng. rm.
Date: 14 Jul 2010
Time: 19:04

Comments

charlie, will talk to you later unless they get me later. ken

Name: kennth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 14 Jul 2010
Time: 18:50

Comments

do ya'll know when i put aft. eng. rm. that i am proud of that. because of our troops losing their lives for our freedom, don't make a shit. if our gov. is a dumn ass. our troops are doing a good job, but our leaders are to mm to see that. if they don't wake up it's bad.ken

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng rm.
Date: 14 Jul 2010
Time: 18:03

Comments

phil, have no ideal what you posted in last statement. charlie, have you got rid of all your junk. this has got to be a big move for you. but it will be good for everyone but cujo. your son will take care of her. later ken

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Wayne: Don't forget an empty suit or is it an empty skirt or maybe the Wealth Distributor in Chief.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 14 Jul 2010
Time: 17:32

Comments

guess ya'll can tell i am not happy with what our idoit are doing. and it is not going to get better. no way. they are filling their billfolds up for ME and MINE. screwed america.later ken.

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Phil...Our esteemed president is not a "no load"...he's a pant load.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div.aft. eng. rm.
Date: 14 Jul 2010
Time: 17:11

Comments

everyone, johnson said give everyone food even if they don't work. clinton said give everybody a house even if they can't pay for it because they were making more kids so the working class had to pay for their screwing. and our people that are suppose to be runing this america don't see that. ken

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft eng. rm.
Date: 14 Jul 2010
Time: 16:41

Comments

phil, look at what happen, we have a socilist and muselem runing this country of america. and he is not going to stop. look at the supreim judge that he put their and the senate and house gave it to her. we are in deep shit. latter ken.

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Ken : you might be right about a revolution to get all of the politicos out of Washington as well as the States. As long as people keep voting for these no loads they will continue to win elections. I call them no loads because in a catapault shot without any load attached it is called a no load. A dead load is when a weight equivalent to an aircrtaft is attached. You can't even get them close enough to launch them from their easy chair or wherever they hangout. It must be sweet to serve one term and get a retirement and medical care for the rest of your life. Not the case with us. Phil

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 14 Jul 2010
Time: 15:38

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dean, us snipes called ya'll jar heads, marines would take care of brig, and if a pilot went down on takeoff ya'll where their to shoot sharks. we all worked togeather for the USA. marines, army,navy, have all had it pertty hard in wars. but our people that are running this country or not for the USA. need to get rid of the hole bunch. but thats not going to happen without a revolution. thats my input. ken

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Dean, how do they designate Sea Going Marines det's, by their parent divison ? I wasn't aboard when you were....Charlie

Name: Dean C. Dunn
Email_Address: c0219@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1957-58
Division_Squadron_Detachment: MarDet
Date: 14 Jul 2010
Time: 11:50

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Would like to hear from any of the Marines I served with in 1957 and 1958

Name: dean c. dunn
Email_Address: c0219@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1957-1958
Division_Squadron_Detachment: MarDet
Date: 14 Jul 2010
Time: 11:46

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I was aboard the Hancock when we went into the Straights of Formosa and pretty much stopped a war between the two China's. Just wondered if we are entitled to any ribbons or medals for that action? Anybody know?

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Dennis, I've used your joke about putting a wedding band on it posting on FB and got a slew of laughter from women. In Bay Saint Lewis the dog catchers have a plaster cast of a panther running around, other reports of a kangaroo and other varmits, sounds like circus truck must have turned over and some clowns must have escaped also...Charlie

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You bet Ken. They have put things on hold until they run ground readings to make sure when they start chokeing it off it dosen't rupture the crust in the ocean floor somewhere. they are talking 9K PSI. I would have thought they would have have done that a long time ago. It may put them back a week. If that fails all we have left is the side drilling and they don't know if that will work..Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 13 Jul 2010
Time: 19:24

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been watching live vidio on oil well cables that they were cutting got around the saw blade they tried to get undone but well pipe hit arm of robut. hope they get it done. charlie, oil has done got to tex. this oil is bad. it's light oil. going to be a lot of years before nature can take care of man made mistake later ken.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mkssreddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958=1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 13 Jul 2010
Time: 17:27

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charlie, should i tell chief to put them in freezer first then take them to pot on stove? that would mess with that bug for awhile. ha ken.

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Ken, get the Chief to cook you up a pot and see if she can keep them in it....Charlie

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charlie,phil, bet them mexican jumping beans was wondering hey wat's. going on. later ken.

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Helmut I'm busting stitches and don't even have any :) Phil's son sure did the larvae in. I've got to get me some ordered. Pete sent me a link to see his Fathers Sea-plane dedication, hopefuly he will post the link here where all hand's can punch it and go to it. I don't know how. I couldn't make out the name on it.....Charlie

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Phil, I'm laughing so hard at your Mexican Jumping Popscicles that my staples are hurting.

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Charlie, I bought some Mexican jumping beans in New Mexico for my son when he was a young kid. They told him the worm inside reacted to heat so when we got back to California, he put them in the freezer and that was the end of the jumping. The worms turned to popsicles. The beans come from a shrub and are generally available from August to November. The worm or larvae is from a moth that lays its eggs during the shrub blosoming in the spring.

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Ken, I get stuff in the mail all the time from people telling me to get on there system to save money. I've had the att senior telephone plan for yrs since I trashed my c-phone. I always hated it and when my son washed it in a pair of my pants when I staid with him one night. prices seem cheap but after they put a the taxes and fees on them it gets crazy.....Charlie

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XO, mexican jumping beans are in season now. I found them on the net, 3 little plastic boxes with 4 ea in them for $8.95 and they pay postage. they don't jump like a lot of people think but the net shows them. they amaze people that haven't seen them. theres a bug in them that reacts to heat......Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 12 Jul 2010
Time: 17:19

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well- charlie been messing with att. and u-verse for about 7 days now. they put me back what i had. the att. guy that came this moring he look at my setup said it will never work. said can you fixed it said no. need to call u-verse. thats were all the bs. started. he told me to wait a couple of days and call u-verse and start over. if the military was run like that. we would me in more trouble then we are.

Name: Max Pate
Email_Address: max-pate@tampabay.rr.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 66-70
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V2 AG
Date: 12 Jul 2010
Time: 10:03

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Helmut Umbley,

Sounds like you’re doing great after the surgery. Keep up the hard work and I’ll see you in Chicago jogging around the Hotel. 2012 or Bust!

Max

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Charlie, I have never seen a Mexican jumping bean. But I have never looked for them.

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XO, have you seen any Mexican Jumping beans around Corpus, I bought a few when I was there many yrs ago. I got a kick out of them, they are something else. I sent Toni a note she should try to find some. I think I bought mine in a quick-stop store, there's a bug in them that makes them jump......Charlie

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Ken, once your in the Naval Home there's only 2 things that will get you kicked out. Fighting or Dope. Those that want to fight can go across the highway and kick up the sand on the beach, There's a walk over the highway. it's pretty steep going up and over, they better take a 6 pack and stop and rest getting over there.....Charlie

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charlie, you are getting closer to the naval home once you get their hang on to a post, tell them you will have too break my arms off to remove me from here.glad to see ya,ll of you are still kicking.later ken.

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Phil, I think that's how long to takes for the bone to grow together without coming apart, I've had a few cast on and that's what they told me, most people have used the old coat hangar trick scratching. Come to think of it I haven't seen anyone whith a cast on in a while.....Charlie

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Helmut, Glad to hear you are doing good after the operation. The last operation I had I asked the doctor how long would it take to get better and his reply was 6 weeks and said don't ask me why that is the way it works so it still seems to be holding true. 6 weeks must be the magic number. Take care of yourself. Phil

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Thanks Dennis, I've never met Jim but have talked with him on the phone and still have the rattlesnake tails with a little Texas badge on them hanging down from my computer shelf among other things. Darn I wish the time would get here for me to get orders to go to the Naval Home would get here. I feel dead in the water. Looking outside it looks like we have a nice brezze from the South, that used to be a good thing but now it just pushes more oil ashore. I hope our Brit Shipmate Gordon hasn't jumped ship, We haven't heard from him in a while among others. Take care Shipmates......Charlie

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Charlie,, Jim seems to be doing much better and sent me some photos of his garden and some very nice tomatoes. From the photos it looks like he has a very green thumb and his garden looks great. It is also varied with different kinds of veggies all of which make me jealous of his gardening skills. He has also had a lot of heat and rain that hasn't hurt his garden any but it looks great. Dennis

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Dennis, we haven't heard from Jim in a while, hows he doing. A funny thing hapend this AM. I woke up with a picture of the book Toni wrote in my minds eye and relised it was a dream when my feet hit the floor. I was going to call her and tell her to send me a signed copy. later she called me after jogging telling me she had finish editing it for the last time and it was going to the press.....Charlie

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The operation was 3 hours. The next morning a pretty 100 pound therapist got me out of bed after showing me various movements. The hip hurt and the leg was as if it were made of cement. We walked a little and then I sat for about 1/2 hour before getting into bed. It was tough going. The 2nd day I was assisted out of bed and walked with crutches the length of the corridor and climbed 6 steps. The 3rd day I got out of bed by myself. The leg was starting to co-operate. The 4th day was a piece of cake and I was discharged. I am moving about the house with ease. I must say that the staff at Salem Hospital made my stay as comfortable as possible. Each, and everyone, was a true proffessional. You just don't know pain until it's gone. It will take about 6 weeks for the muscles to form around my new titanium joint.

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Helmut, from what I see about these new joint replacements are sapose to be great. I bet you will be sore for a while. Now days they want you up and doing things as soon as possible, I don't no about that op. I broke my foot many yrs ago and they put me in traction. I was in a Military hospital at Ft Hood. after lights out who could sleep with all that weight pulling on their leg. I pulled it in and tied it off to the bed post, I got my butt chewed when the woke me up in the mourning...Charlie

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Hope you have a good recovery Helmut. I had an uncle that put it off for 20 years and when he had it done he wished he had done it 20 years before. Hope you have a short and painless recovery and will see you jogging in Chicago. Dennis

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Reporting back to duty. I have been in sick bay since 7/6/10 having a total hip replacement. Everything went well and recovery time is about 6 weeks. I will not be limping in Chicago.

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Charlie and Ken, I heard BP finally had the solution to stopping the oil flow............. They are going to put a wedding band on it, Then it will stop putting out ! Dennis

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I have no idea what happend to my Hannah news, our regular postman is pretty good but if a replacement steps in for him while he's on leave some things get put in the wrong box. If there is no one living in that apt at the time it won't get put back in the outgoing mail slot to be put into the right box or some newcomer may trash it.....Charlie

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Ken, I hope that thing dose work monday, It's not a real cap but a way of collecting most the oil coming out as I understand it. I had to snezze tonight and my nose started bleeding real bad and I plugged it up with pieces of paper towels, a little damage control, If it happens again I guess I will go to the Dr and get it documented as much as I hate going there. I left the plugs in for a about 30 mins and can breath like I have a 4 barrel carb, it's not like someone punched you in the snorkle.....Charlie

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charlie, dennis, i cannot bleive the miltary gave in to aticvace special intrestest groups. the military had a job to do world war 1 2 koreane and they did it. now we got a idoit that is saying. muslums or good . the pres. subprem justice. i know i still live in the best nation in the world. but it is getting bad. arrps has switch to pres. and still want donation for dues. they can go to muslums for membership.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm
Date: 09 Jul 2010
Time: 15:52

Comments

charlie, looks like they or saying they will cap oil well by monday sure hope so. they lie so much. are don't really know theirself. hope this does happens. dennis enjoyed your emails. really did like the country song. guess you have seened some bad stuff, being a firefrighter and paramedic. sounds like that ole heart did not stop you. be careful like charlie said. i am 70 charlie is 68 you are 69 in oct. we were all hatch about the same time ha. later ken.

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Dennis don't push it to hard. I haven't had any problems with my oil pump yet. I've left some parts all over the country, the VA dosen't fix them they just say you don't need that and cuts it off. I'll draw the line if it ever comes to my pink parts. Cujo and I take a nap evey time we eat so I don't have any normal hrs anymore. I wake up and can't sleep in the middle of the night.........Charlie

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Ken, I retired as a Firefighter/Paramedic from Colorado Springs Colorado and also 26 years in the Air Force Reserve as a Firefighter. I'll be 69 this October so my extinguisher don't work as good but I know the song by George Strait and love it. Just can't keep up with it anymore. Driving Seniors once in awhile is a good deal, I meet a lot of really neat people and feel good about helping them out when I can, someday some one will probably be helping me out the same way. It is called "Pay it forward" . Back in 2003 I had a heart attack and went into Cardiac Arrest, they jump started me after CPR, Then another one in 2004 but it was mild. I had a stint put in my aorta in 2000, slowly I am turning into a Bionic Man but just keep going and going. You never know when you might go so enjoy it and don't make too many enemies along the way, you may see them in the hereafter. Dennis

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 08 Jul 2010
Time: 19:44

Comments

dennis, i need what you got but by the time i got it would be a lot greyer and a little more not their. dennis been thinking our church has a deal for seniors for somebody to drive van. might see if i might be able to help out. dennis, are you a firefighter like george straight thats good later ken.

Name: Dennis Flynn
Email_Address: Dpflynn@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 58 through 62
Division_Squadron_Detachment: E and V-6 Flt Deck
Date: 08 Jul 2010
Time: 18:53

Comments

Ken, I don't know how my Microsoft Office picks up the spelling on this site but it did it automatically. Charlie, I get most of those crazy emails from some of the Firefighters I used to work with and some from a couple of E division guys I worked with aboard ship. Been busy setting up a new computer, laying a patio out back, Fishing and today took a road trip along with 7 other guys down just South of Toledo Ohio to a old car museum. I also volunteer to drive seniors ( actually older than I am) to their Dr. appointments and stuff so I stay pretty busy most all the time. Go to bed around 11:30 PM and up around 6:30 AM. One of these days I'll learn to take afternoon naps. Take care and I'm sure Cujo will find someone that will take care of her. Dennis

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 08 Jul 2010
Time: 17:12

Comments

charlie, was reading some of the post i made last night, don't even make sence to me. still got problems with u-verse and att. i had got diff. output from about 8 tecks all are diff. last one told me i need new phones voice over pi. whatever that means. att. is coming mon. did you get hana news? maybe they took you of list, might be right behind you. later ken.

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BLUE WATER BATTLE

There is an excellent article in this month's issue of The Legion Magazine by Mr Olsen regarding Agent Orange exposure and VA benefits.

Contact your US Senators and Representatives NOW to get their support for pending legislation to restore our benefits from 2002, S-1939 & H-2254.

Link to article: www.legion.org/magazine/64773/blue-water-battle

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Ken, try Natural Lite, I don't like the taste of Keystone. I don't drink Natural Ice, it knocks my lights out. I like to stay in control of my 3 brain cells. I wonder how the Ships bell projects coming along?? I don't know what's going on in Dennis's life. I used to get my mourning emails of funny things from him and I would forward a lot to my friends. I have no idea where he comes up with them. I think I'll crash, I have a big firefight coming up in the kitchen in the AM cleaning up suppers mess....Charlie

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Ken, she go's #2 out on the patio, I don't have a fenced yard. sometimes she go's #1 on the rubber mat I have in front of the kitchen sinks. I think the smell of the rubber attracts her like a car tire to a male. I'm going to trash it tomarrow. she knows not to go on the carpet. This oilwell crap is getting way out of control with all this secret stuff going on with BP and the WhiteHouse, any time they want to hide something they put it under National Security and right their own rules.... Charlie

Name: ktenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksurweddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958- 1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 07 Jul 2010
Time: 17:58

Comments

charlie, what are you doing do not understand about potty patck. that cujo has been that way ken, charlie, pete' dennis, i am very confuise. but keystone lt. does come into play. later not latte0r ken.

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Ken I got Cujo's potty patch today, I don't think she knows what it is. No mail......Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 07 Jul 2010
Time: 16:58

Comments

charlie, dennis, i think had to be a pin ball machine or something to do with his female. later ken.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng rm.
Date: 07 Jul 2010
Time: 16:50

Comments

charlie, dennis, was sitting in garage drinking a keystone lt. one time about 22 years ago my boss and owner of co. came to me said ken i need something done. i was working on a c pull scraper. had 1 in. steel balls out of steering table. he told me to get them cut in half have 2 hollow out and put mecuri in them and weld them back together. i think i know what he was going to do with them. what do ya'll think? later ken.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 07 Jul 2010
Time: 12:58

Comments

charlie, i am sure whoever get cujo she will be taken care of. they know she will let you know. when that time comes cujo will be ok. don't know about charlie. did you get your hana news letter? just been working in yard. uverse talk me into putting att line on phone with uverse. big mess lost 3 phones. trying to get it it back the way i had it. maybe tomorrow. later ken.

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Two more Life Members who will never have to pay dues again. #370, Robert Molleston, VB-6, 45 Member, Enllisted Crewman Hall of Fame, #371 Robert Garrity, lst Div, 62-65.

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Ken we write better than illeagl Mexicans anyway. Our green card is a Retired Military ID. I bet our almost Astro-Nut Pete is hot about or Pres wants to give the Muslums our high tec NASA info so they will like us better. It is hard for me to belive whats coming out of the White House.....Charlie

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Ken all I got today was a bill to renew my car ins. maybe tomarrow. Dennis I have office on my pc, how do you get it to work on here. I never use it. I have no idea how to get rid of all this junk I have accumulated when I go into the Naval Home, I guess move what I want over there and tell my Son,Grandson and Jenny to get what they want. CuJo's going to be my biggest problem, It's like who do I want to give my kid to. I don't know anyone I think is good enough for her......Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.@net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 06 Jul 2010
Time: 19:31

Comments

dennis, you are so right i do spell like it sounds to me. my chief looks over my shoulder sometimes and start's laughing. have tryed spell ceck on email, still don't know what to do,they need just to correct it. then maybe i would be able to spell it. really hard to teach old dogs new tricks. did you get hana news letter? very well done. that last picture of JOHN FINN is something else. later not latter ken.

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Hey Ken, I see a big difference on your spelling. Thank God for spell check. I have Microsoft Office on my PC and in it it has Microsoft Word which does a spell check for me on just about everything including the Hancock Web Site. It saves my butt because I tend to spell something like it sounds. I wind up with a lot of stuff with the red underline. I hated English in school , I figured I can talk so people can understand, why do I need this crap, just show me how to fix machines and I will be OK. Just like Larry the cable guy, "Got er done" Dennis

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 06 Jul 2010
Time: 16:06

Comments

charlie, did you get your hana news letter?. it is outstanding. later ken.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 06 Jul 2010
Time: 15:05

Comments

pete, got your info and link. thank's that pby looks like an ac. built ontop of a big ole boat. i moved that link to my folder. have not read it all yet. glad this the home of the pby that your dad flew. this has got to be a big honor for mom and you. thank's again ken.

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Question, Were any of you that read this log, in VF-213, 1961-1964,if so , did you know Airman Henry Vega, in 63, he was a third class P O. Cheers, Mack

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Ken, I keep those jalapeno poppers in my frezzer all the time. I'm addicted to them......Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 05 Jul 2010
Time: 16:34

Comments

well- charlie, after making baby back ribs and jalapeno poppers. little rough today. chief goes to work at 6:00 am. got lawn mower edger weed eater leaf blower on back patio.need to get this load gone. was good when i was doing it on fourth of july. if you play must pay. later ken. let me know that you are ok. sure you are. chief got my spelling on later straighten out have a good night.

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Darn Wayne I missed that one. I must have been sleeping...Charlie

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Sorry that it's belated but Happy 4th of July to everyone of the Hancock family! Hey Charlie! I watched an old John Wayne, WWII picture called "On the Wings of Eagles" a few days ago and saw a list of carriers on a board, that listed all of the Essex class carriers (including the Hancock) available at that time. My wife can't seem to understand why I get excited about such things. Anyway, it was a pretty good movie.

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Helmut, Good to have seen you and talked with at the reunion. I saw Amanda this morning on Good MorningAmerica. My great great Grand mother was on GMA a few years ago, well sorta,she was on a book written about pioneer women of New Mexico and the Author was asking anyone to ID the women in the photo. The 5 women were all mid wives and I have that original photo. Good luck to Amanda and I hope it will turn into more than 15 minutes of fame. Phil;

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My wife's niece, Amanda Grabowski, was on Good Morning America this morning. Amanda is an emergency room nurse at Mass General Hospital. She will be featured in three episodes of Boston Med on ABC. We are all so proud of her. Being level-headed, she is taking her 15 minutes of fame in stride.

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Congratulations to the following new Life Members who will never have to worry about paying dues again: #360 Alan Bondurant, VA 212, 64-66, #361Chester Korszoloski, lst, 44-45, #362 Donald Shoemaker, N, 60-62, #363 FTGC Ronald Elliot, F, 63-65, #364 Oliver Zullo, MarDet, 44-45

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Shipmates, Happy 4th!....Am at our vacation home at the south end of Newfound Lake in Bristol,NH watching dualing personal fireworks displays west/east side. Off to The PBY dedication next Saturday. Leaving for SEA on Wednesday...Will report back after the mission is accomplished!Pete

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 04 Jul 2010
Time: 18:56

Comments

charlie, can't go wrong with John Wayne, Johnny Cash or John Deere. latter ken

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Ken, They won't let us BB-Q on our little patio, fire regulations. I've been eating sleeping and watching John Wayne movies on TV. Some of this medication I take makes me slugish, I'm going to see if I can get off of some. I think it is my pain pills but they really help. Dennis and a lot of other shipmates have been pretty quiet for a while. I don't know why Waye Shrader hasn't come aboard, I'll have to call him again but he told me he can't get on his computer much his Grandkids keep it tied up. I don't know it the mail runs tomarrow, I might get my Hannsh news....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 04 Jul 2010
Time: 17:01

Comments

stefanic, read the link from pete and phil. that is when the war was bad. you have a good night. ken.

Name: kennneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958- 1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 04 Jul 2010
Time: 16:28

Comments

pete, phil. ya'll did get that straighten out i did not know so will leave it alone. i do not know. latter ken.

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Ok, new laptop...correct info above. Email is petecole@earthlink.net. Happy 4th of July shipmates. Pete

Name: Pete Cole
Email_Address: petecole@eaerthlink.net
Association_Member: .
Years_Aboard: 1973-1975
Division_Squadron_Detachment: VA-212
Date: 04 Jul 2010
Time: 16:05

Comments

Stefanie, "The Black Diamonds" were VA-216. Here is a link to a history of the squadron: http://a4skyhawk.org/3e/va216/va216.htm. You can also contact the webmaster of Skyhawk Association for more info and to put out an inquiry to the A-4 community.Also, Helmut, looks like the time you were with the Black Diamonds. Did you know Brennon Ray Barber. Stefanie, please feel free to contact me if I can be of anymore help. Pete

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Ken, the Black Diamonds were VA 216 and they flew A-4 Skyhawks

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: .
Years_Aboard: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 04 Jul 2010
Time: 15:38

Comments

stefanie. i have never heard of a div. called black diamonds but you have a good night ken.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 04 Jul 2010
Time: 13:54

Comments

charlie, dennis, what are you doing. i am burning meat on pit but enjoying it . ya'll and everyone have a good day.

Name: Brennon Ray Barber
Email_Address: ImTrying2BGood@aol.com
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1960-1964
Division_Squadron_Detachment: Black Diamonds
Date: 04 Jul 2010
Time: 12:45

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I am the daughter of Brennon Ray Barber, (Stefanie), and am looking for information about him. He passed away in May of 2001 and due to an inconvenience I was unable to get access to his Naval book or pictures that would mean the world to me. Or even just some old stories, which he always loved to tell. If anyone has any information, please contact me. Thank you and GOD bless!

Comments

Wishing everyone a Glorious Fourth of July. It is important to remember why we are still able to celebrate today. Thanks to all who served and are now serving. My thoughts are with you all.

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Our local newspaper has a copy of our Declaration of Independence in it today, also, a copy of, Patrick Henry's speach, Will it be Freedom or Slavery, and Benjamin Franklin's speach, The Public Good, Above All Else. Excellent reading always. Today I raised a glass to salute, Those WHO SERVE AND THOSE WHO HAVE SERVED. Take good care. Mack

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Outback has good food, The one here blew away,so did Olive Garden and Red lobster. Everything was building back slowly but surely with higher building codes and the Coast is looking good and then along came this oil thing and investors are holding back because tourism is way down....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft eng. rm.
Date: 03 Jul 2010
Time: 19:18

Comments

charlie, glad to see you are still kicking. took cheif to outback today for lunch. kids gave me a 50.00 dollar card for father's day. order a 22 ounce beer and chicken fried stake with double french fires. it was good. that oil deal is not doing good. anyway glad to see you are ok. latter. ken.

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XO I will probley get it Tues. Mail is shut down over the holiday, I'm looking fwd to it. Ken, My son came by this AM for a while and then CuJo and I went to Win-Dixie, I found me a blueberry pie, chesse cake, Breadpudding, and ice cream, it was cold in there and we left shivering. I got my belly full and we took our nap. I'm in my skives with a cold beer now. I did some yacking with my FB friends. Toni's doing great. this is a big weekend for a lot of people to visit and BB-Q...Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 03 Jul 2010
Time: 17:07

Comments

charlie, the XO and i are trying to comuacate with you are you drunk in your skives. give us a shout. latter. ken.

Name: Tom Wimberly
Email_Address: twimbo@aol.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1970-72
Division_Squadron_Detachment: XO of the ship
Date: 03 Jul 2010
Time: 13:52

Comments

Charlie, my Hanna News arrived yesterday or the day before. You probably have yours by now. It is a spectacular issue. The coverage on John Finn is really excellent. Dan Colleran is really doing a great service for us. One thing in particular in this issue - the pictures seem much better than before. If there are readers of the Quarterdeck Log who are not Association members, let me tell you you are missing a great newsletter. Happy Fourth to everyone!

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 03 Jul 2010
Time: 09:23

Comments

charlie.in the san antonio express-news today. the navy says the USS san antonio has a lot of problems, do to inadequate-------workmanship. it is in norfolk va. unable to be deploy. engine problems with bunch of other problems thats what the union does. latter. ken. have a good 4 of july.

Comments

This is 4th of July weekend, I bet a lot of people are making trips....Charlie

Comments

XO when Toni was here she told me she might be back in a couple weeks, She wouldn't tell me why, that's unusal, I figure she has some kind of meeting with a big shot about this oil thing and can't let the cat out of the bag. she didn't know for sure, I think your TV station has something to do with it. I would hate to sit across the table from her drilling me. she knows the flag words people use to excape the question and she won't turn it loose until she gets a direct answer....Charlie

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Old Salt I ain't got my Hannah news yet, has my membership expired, I don't know when it's up? XO Toni is on face book, we send a few things back and forth on it, she checks it most every day at work, I try not to bug her on the phone but if shes busy she will call me back. She would love to here from you and Gay, She thinks the world of you guys....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 02 Jul 2010
Time: 18:19

Comments

dennis, you posted charles plumb artical. was just wondering is he still alive? that is one heck of a artical. latter ken.

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Dennis, we have had a nice soaking rain that we needed bad, it has been misting a few times today, I haven't been down to the beach I need to check it out tomarrow. I think there a lot of illegals came here to get that gov check. I think contractors brought them, I've seen more than usal at Wal-marts today, they cash thier checks but don't buy much......Charlie

Name: Dennis Flynn
Email_Address: dpflynn@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 58-62
Division_Squadron_Detachment: E Div & V-6
Date: 01 Jul 2010
Time: 20:21

Comments

Ken, Charlie and Tom and all you guys living down there in the rain, Keep your powder dry and your chin above water, hope none of you guys have to abandon ship. Enjoy your 4th of July weekend and stay safe.. I just heard a guy on the radio say his wife was so fat, her birthday was January 4th., 5th. and 6th. That must be some woman. Good thing is she provides warmth in the winter and shade in the summer. Catch you later, Dennis

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 01 Jul 2010
Time: 18:53

Comments

charlie, you have a good night. will talk with you tomorow. latter ken.

Comments

Ken, I haven't gotten my Hanna news yet, it could be in my mail box. I've had a long day and haven't checked it. I sit around in my skivies with a fridge full of beer all the time, Cujo heads for the patio doorevery time the phone rings thinking we are going to get company and I put my cutoffs on. my friends give me warning. I don't drink a lot of beer at one time, but almost every day. I don't leave my apt if I do....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng.rm.
Date: 01 Jul 2010
Time: 18:31

Comments

charlie, guess this is what we do to feel useful. but we are american not muselm. latter ken.

Comments

Dennis, I went by the place that sold those Gator electric cars today, There about 8K for the "Ruff & Tough" with optional back seat at the rear that folds out like a little flat bed, and a deluxe rain enclosure, I skiped the CD player, it was custom built for $600 that you could shater glass with. I need to check with my credit union, ins co and cost to register it before I jump in... Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 01 Jul 2010
Time: 18:12

Comments

charlie, done drank about a six pack of 16 ounce of keystone light. so will be going to bed very shorty. would get none but it's their. latter ken.

Name: AT1 James Stacey
Email_Address: melross1@yahoo.com
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1967-1968?
Division_Squadron_Detachment: flight
Date: 01 Jul 2010
Time: 18:11

Comments

My father ATN3 (at the time) James E. Stacey passed away on June 13, 2010. He served aboard the USS Hornet. I am looking for anyone who served with him and can help me locate information. He retired from the Navy in 1987.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm
Date: 01 Jul 2010
Time: 16:49

Comments

dennis, sorry was sitting out in garage his name is not john flynn its dennis flynn. you did post it people should read that artical you posted. so i came back in to get it straight. latter ken.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 01 Jul 2010
Time: 15:18

Comments

charlie,got the hannah news just a minute ago. they did so right to put JOHN FINN. on front page wish i could had meant him . maybe in next life. is charles plum still alive ?. love the artical that john flynn posted about charles plum. two get heros. latter ken.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 01 Jul 2010
Time: 14:33

Comments

charlie, been looking at weather today, looks like ya'll are getting rain. we are getting some in san antonio, but not a whole lot yet about a 1/2 in. but not complaining we needed it. looks like CC. is doing ok. when i worked for waukesha pearce they sent me to CC. can't remember hurricanes name but it was bad at CC. o well we got through it. i think it was in the sixties. latter ken.

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XO when Toni came buy some Marine Biologest was with her from her old college. he's recording the oil impact to Ms. Toni's X producer dumped her off on him because she needed her car, and Toni was afoot. I told her you just get dumped off on anyone that comes along, he didn't take it serious, but said he was going to be down here for a long time. I feel fortunate to have Toni as a close friend and I joke with her and talk candid...Charlie

Comments

XO I got a note from Toni that she had to be out a 02:00 to cover it, It was going to be a long day. She wasn't feeling good when she visited me. I told her to slow down a little but that's like talking to a brick wall. She has covered a lot of huricanes, I told her a chicken got enough sense to get out of the rain that she may get slaped up side the head with a flying 2x4 some day and knock a little sense in you...Charlie

Name: Tom Wimberly
Email_Address: twimbo@aol.com
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1970-72
Division_Squadron_Detachment: Ship's Exec
Date: 01 Jul 2010
Time: 09:40

Comments

Right, Charlie, Hurricane Alex was not much of a bother for Toni and me here in Corpus Christi. At my house we have gotten 2.4 inches of rain in the past 24 hours. Some areas of the county have gotten more; Toni was reporting this morning that a couple of county roads were closed due to flooding. Predictions had said we might get 5 to 8 inches in the Corpus Christi area; some areas may have gotten a lot more than I got. The USS Lexington Museum closed at 3 PM yesterday because of high water on North Beach; she's opening at noon today. Gay and I usually tune in Channel 10 for awhile every morning to check on Toni.

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Ken, the Naval Home will be fine, The news media blows a lot of things out of proportion to get people to watch it. Katrina was really bad, before her we had a little one called Isabell, It didn't even wash the bugs off the windshield of my van.Thee Naval Home landscaping may get set back a few days because of the rain we are getting but putting the finishing touchs on the interior will go on...Charlie

Comments

Ken: no apologies are needed for spelling, I'm sure you have seen some of those exercises where words are spelled with letters all mixed up and they are still readable. The brain is smarter than we think. Either way we need to vote out incumbent politicians, We have more than our share of those YAHOOS in California. I am making it a point to campaign against them. Phil

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div.aft. eng. rm.
Date: 30 Jun 2010
Time: 19:02

Comments

charlie, do you think everything is ok for your retirement home. hope so. you are smart enought to know. latter ken.

Comments

Ken, don't worry about Toni and the XO, they will be fine, this storm ain't no big deal, heck they sent Toni to Galveston from here to cover Gustav, she said it tore the Island up, I have a DVD about Katrina from our TV Station. Toni was there and it tore the roof off and they had to evacuate to the basement, and use emergency equipment to stay on line. I don't know what good it did no one had had any power to watch them........Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 30 Jun 2010
Time: 18:45

Comments

charlie,dennis, got to many post tonight. that's the way it is i think you are american good people latter. ken.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 30 Jun 2010
Time: 18:07

Comments

dennis, read your coment again, we better get it right for america in nov. are we or screwed. latter ken.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 30 Jun 2010
Time: 18:07

Comments

dennis, read your coment again, we better get it right for america in nov. are we or screwed. latter ken.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 30 Jun 2010
Time: 17:29

Comments

charlie, let me know if toni at cc. gets through this the hell with XO. guess fishing is not to good down their right now.latter ken.

Comments

Dennis, I agree with you, if we don't make a change in Nov we are in deep trouble, I was watching that Rep from Ill on TV. He's as gay as they come...Charlie

Comments

Ken, don't worry about the spelling. This isn't a spelling bee. I wish I could find me a large letter key board, I dought if it would help my spelling much. It's been many yrs since I've been in school, Toni has a Masters in Journalism, she can smoke those keys you would grab a fire exingusher, she has typos but has an editor to clean them up. She has to do it herself on her own stuff, She has written a book but hasn't sent it to a publiser yet....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 30 Jun 2010
Time: 16:45

Comments

dennis, you are so right. we better wake up in nov. but how do we know that fhe people we vote for are going to do what they say. guess you are doing what you think. for this country. if they are not need revolution. are we can forget it for our kids-grandkids-great grankids cannot believe this has happen to this USA. latter. ken.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 30 Jun 2010
Time: 16:23

Comments

dennis, charlie, my spelling was off phil. i am a person that types like he thinks. i know i should be better. don't think i will ever be. but you are right phil. charlie, you are right the damage has been done. latter. ken

Comments

Ken, we have been getting some much needer soakers here. To me we need our rivers flowing as much as possible to push against the incoming tides. Those buch of fair weather Sailors out there messing around called for a shutdown because of Alex. There wasn't nothing to it. The whole thing is a farce. I have no idea why they have hundreds of people out there picking up tar ball on the beach, whats the use theres going to be more tomarrow. wait until theres enough an use machinery to do it. I see our Prez finaly let some skimmers in from other countrys that know what they are doing but is picking and chooseing. Tx is the one getting the bad weather....Charlie

Comments

Ken, You asked Charlie about a Supreme Judge, some of the answers look like they took your spelling as it was and thought it was sub-prime which would refer to a loan. The Pres can select supreme court judges but the have to be OK'd by the congress and senate. It all boils dow to the fact we need to pay attention to who we vote for. Many people vote a straight party line which means they vote for any idiot that party puts up. You may be a Democrat or Republican but if who ever you vote for does not do what you want them to, then you are stuck. Please ........everyone take a look at all the candidates and see if they are doing what you want them to do and vote accordingly regardless of what party, it is the only way we will ever get our voices heard is to weed out all the deadwood and fancy talkers that just do what they want once in office and not listen to the people that put them in the first place. Dennis

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 30 Jun 2010
Time: 14:48

Comments

charlie, ole alex is going to give us some needed rain. the XO and toni are on a toss up how bad it is going to get at cc. see where miss. is getting some storms also. been watching vidio on internet. things are sure moving around down their. latter ken.

Name: Ralph Irish
Email_Address: w8roi@wowway.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1959-1961
Division_Squadron_Detachment: OR Division
Date: 30 Jun 2010
Time: 13:25

Comments

Some members of the Association were given either ball point pens or T-shirts by students from Creston Middle School, Creston, Ohio, while on tours at the reunion last month. I wrote a thank you letter last week, to the Principal of the school and got a nice reply this afternoon, via e-mail. There is a write up on page 3 of the June 2010 issue of Hannah News, with a little more information. I urge all Association members who received a pen or shirt to write a Thank You note to the school or principal.

Their Social Studies teacher organized the trip, and from what I saw, the students were all VERY well behaved and a real credit to their school and district.

For those members who have been 'on the fence' about attending our reunions, it is these little surprises that can make the trip worthwhile. You just never know when something nice like this will occur.

I welcome comments from others who received these little 'surprises' on any of the tours.

Ralph Irish

Name: keenan martin
Email_Address: keenan.w. martin@gmail.com
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: visitor
Division_Squadron_Detachment: known
Date: 30 Jun 2010
Time: 11:29

Comments

had a miss print on a date. My dad reenlisted aboard CVA19 on May 1968 not 1960. again looking for anyone that may have worked with BT-1 Gerald (Jerry) Martin.

Name: Keenan Martin son of BT1 Gerald (Jerry) Martin
Email_Address: keenan.w.martin@gmail.com
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1960?-1972
Division_Squadron_Detachment: unknwn
Date: 30 Jun 2010
Time: 11:14

Comments

My father (ret) BT-1 Gerald (Jerry)L. Martin, passed away in 2006. I would like to have his name added to the rollcall of fallen shipmates.

I do not know when my dad was first assigined to the USS Handcock. I know he reenlisted in May 1960 while while servering aboard her until he ret in 1972.

I am looking for anyone that may have known or had worked with my dad(Jerry).

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Ken I have no idea about our President, I think the Capital is running around like rats on a sinking ship. I have never seen a President try to do so much on Exective order but our next Pres can resened them by order. Pray for Nov, with his funds cut off he is helpless...Charlie

Comments

Phil, they started chargeing me $4 a mo. for not useing it and $30 for not paying the $4 buy the time I got word from them I owed close to $300. I called them up and told them to send someone by I would whip his butt for working for crooks like you. They didn't bug me anymore, I think Bush passed some kind of law to prevent them from doing this as I read later....Charlie

Comments

Phill, It's been that way as far back as I can remember, when you didn't need any money they would bug you to barrow some at a low rate. when you needed it the rates went up. I belive credit cards lead to a lot of peoples problems. I had a lot of problems with Capital One after Katrina, I had no mail for about 6 mos as the post office was trying to locate us....Charlie

Name: Phil Torres
Email_Address: phil.torres
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1965-1968
Division_Squadron_Detachment: E Div IC Gang
Date: 29 Jun 2010
Time: 20:16

Comments

Ken Sub prime loans are a type of loan offered above prime rate to individuals who don't qualify for prime rates and offered at a higher interest rate which also means more interest paid over the life of the loan, sometimes not very long before the loan goes into default. all of these controlled by lenders and the world bank and other greety people, judges come afterwards.

Comments

charlie, or anyone, tell me is the subprime judge just put their by president or do we have some say. the one that is their does not belong their. people like that will take this country down, like president, all them idoits running it. have a good night, need to wait to see if i get black hawk over my house. latter ken.

Comments

I've just been kicking back Ken, This storm may push more oil on our beachs, the barrier islands have and North wind have been on our side for a long time, the leak will probly spew until aug. our bad storms are in aug and sept. It may rain oil in a lot of states. I think the Gulf Stream will be carrying a lot of it to the east coast. you will here a lot of people screaming then....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 28 Jun 2010
Time: 16:25

Comments

charlie, are you ok. don't see much posting. glad toni came by to see a old fort like you. but she knows who is ok. had to get going today to get back in line with yard, tomatoe plants. did get it done to a ave. what do you think about storm coming, could be bad for gulf of mexico. bp is at half it's worth. this could do it. but they got lawwers and obama on their side. i guess the american people will get screwed one more time latter ken.

Comments

Toni just came by to visit, She keeps getting prettier. She flys back to CC at 14:30 tomarrow and said she might stop by again in the AM if possible. I kind of dought it. She has so many friends here she can't see them all when she visits. I feel good that she thinks enough about me that she to make a point about stoping by. She says there is a high possiblity she will be back through in two weeks. I think she's glad to get back to work to rest. Some kind young marine biologist seafood inspector brought her by , I told him hes out of a job inspecting seafood here but he said they will be studing the impact... Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 27 Jun 2010
Time: 12:04

Comments

charlie, just got back from port aransas. read your comment. glad you got everything done with va. while me and my family was on beach at port A meant a retired 1st. class airdale. he was on a lot of diff. aircraft carriers but like the midway the best. he was a little younger then us at 47. had a good time with him. bs and beer.latter ken.

Comments

Toni just called me, she will be by this afternoon. Jenny gave me some anti-biotics for my tooth Sat and all the pain and swelling is gone, they are actualy stronger than I need but saved me a bunch of money going to the dentist especialy on a weekend. I hate a nagging tooth acke, It looks like the ships crew is out on liberty this weekend.....Charlie

Comments

Pete, that was a very interesting artical you sent me. Whidbey Island was always of interest to me. I would always pull over on the bridge at Deception Point, and watch the tide come in or out. It rushed in or out like nothing I have ever seen before, my wife was afraid of hights and was born and raised there. It is a well manicured island. I'm proud your Father has an everlasting monument there...Charlie

Comments

Wayne (Old Salt) thanks for the link, Shrader lives in Mansfield Ga, I got to have a long talk with him. He's doing good and told me about some of the other 02N2 people. I ask him to come aboard our site and to get the Hanna guys he knows to do it also. He left the Hanna about 6 mos after me. You wouldn't belive some of our capers ashore. Thanks Wayne.....Charlie

Comments

Shipmates: The Cat is back at Whidbey! A PBY my father flew in the Aleutians during WWII was successfully transported from the Skagit County Airport to NAS Whidey, its final resting place, by heavy-lift helo today. The dedication of the a/c as a static display at the PBY Memorial Museum is 10 July. My Mother will be the guest of honor.Heading out for that!Pete

Comments

XO, I think thats great, I have no idea why the site is double printing my post, but if I don't shut it down directly after putting the pass word in it dose that. I had to answer the phone..Charlie

Comments

Micah, go to AFRH.gov on the net. I don't know all about him but there are contact phone numbers there. Being a WWII vet in combat in dire need if you have copys of his 214's he should be able to get a room in an instant in DC, The phone # is 1-800-422-9988 He will have to go to DC. He will have a mess hall, medical care and what he needs......Charlie

Comments

The San Diego Union Tribune carried on Wednesday June 23 a story telling that local political figures have joined together and signed a letter to the Secretary of the Navy requesting that a ship be named for John Finn. Several of the old-timers in the Association have been writing such letters for years. Maybe now that John is gone, there is a better chance that the request will be approved.

Name: micah crelia
Email_Address: mrifleman@vtc.net
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 44-45
Division_Squadron_Detachment: USS HANCCK
Date: 25 Jun 2010
Time: 07:43

Comments

hello, our grandpa bill booth was on uss hancock during world war 2 he was blown off side april 7th he needs the navys or shipmates help! you see he has have his home taken away from him with out due or any courts is there any vets organzations to help him?

Comments

I think I have located Elmo Wayne Shrader that was my best buddy when aboard the Hanna woking 02N2 with me, I googled him and they want me to join a thing to get info. He is in Conyers Ga, age 68 if someone has the abilitys to find out more info. If not I'll call info on the phone next week. I would like to bring him aboard here if its him.......Charlie

Comments

I got an E-mail from Pete, He is busy with getting his Fathers PBY that he flew back when the Japs envaded Alaska moved to NAS Whidby Island to be a monument. I liked Whidby when I went there to visit, It was a trip, It's a beautiful Island, Cold bad weather yr around, high standards, Most I met could speak German but that was my wifes family bloodline. They thought I was a little wierd being from the South but the feeling was mutual. You have to be tough to live on the Island just to handle the weather. The people are realy great though, It cost a lot to live there. I never saw any run down areas. They have the Islanders and the newcomers. but I'm talking yrs ago....Charlie

Comments

Ken, I think your talking about Port Aransas, I've been there a couple times yrs ago, it was a fun place. It was a snap at the VA this AM, I was in and out within an hr. I explained my problem to the lady and she was trying to put me on the long track, I told her I wanted to see Patient Affairs, She took my 19 question papers to her boss and her boss told me to wait a couple mins she got on the phone and I was on my way to Ocupational Theropy and a little cutie was expecting me and ask me to put my hans over my head, turn around and dance a little jig and she just passed me and signed the papers, 30 min later they were in the post office on their way to DC registerd. ...Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 24 Jun 2010
Time: 06:29

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charlie, my cheif and i with daughter and her family are going to port A today will give you a shout when we get back on sunday. to see if va. got it done for you. latter ken

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Ken, I have left a message with patient affairs to call me but I hope I can get it resolved tomarrow AM before I have to go that far. I have to get it done pronto. I wish Toni was with me, She gets things done, she dosen't take no for an answer and knows what questions and buttons to push, they just want to get me out of there. My tooth woke me up. I took an extra pain pill I don't sapose to a few a little while ago and my tooth ack is letting up. They are non-narcotic but my Dr dosen't want me to use them unless need them, I needed it. I like him, It's people droping the ball I don't like. He's new to the VA and learning how it works....Charlie

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Ken,on top of that I have a bad tooth ach. I'm not in a good mood, the VA when I call they won't let me talk to the ones I need. They take a message and tell me they will send them a message and they will call me back by a certain time but never do get called back. I call again and get someone else and they will tell me it's not on the computer and the same thing has happened over and over since Monday. All I need is X's in a box's for 19 questions that they will ask me the answer anyway and a signature. I'm usely pretty easy going until I get pushed into fix bayonets...Charlie

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charlie, sorry to here about your problem with va, seems like they sould know whats got to get done. it is because a gril or guy is their drawing their paycheck. and is not going to give one ounce more. hope they get it done. before they give you a heart attack. i order parts from sears. they got so mess up they are going to give me a heart attach. just people that don't give a damn. latter ken

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I.m haveing a mess with this VA again, DC sent a portion of my physical back that should have been signed off by a Physical Therapsist instead of my Dr. I have been given the run-around since Monday AM trying to get an appointment. The Nurse said if they haven't called me by 15:00 to call her back and we would get Patient Affairs involved.....Charlie

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Charlie, Maybe a 1st. class couldn't behave himself. Back in the late 70's when I was a E7, I had my wife with me on vacation, we went through Bremington Washington and I told her "Now I can finally go to the Chief's Club" Turned out that it was open to the public by then, you didn't even have to be in the service to get in. What a crock after waiting all those years. It is nice to use Military base lodging when on a trip, It is very clean, very reasonable but space available for about 1/3rd of what a motel would cost, Glad I stuck around. Dennis

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Dennis, I was watching more about the way he was trying to hold back his tears, I never could figure out why a S'Sgt could go into a Marine Saff NCO club and a Navy 1st class couldn't. A Chief could or an Army S'Sgt could....Charlie

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Pete, I got the history channels 4 dvd set of the universe, there are several chapters on each one. I watched the 1st one,"Sex in Space" Gosh I had no idea things would be so complicated. It is tabo with NASA so they are learning from the Brits and Russians. NASA is going to have to come up with something for this 3 yr trip to Mars planed for 20-20. you would like the set.....Charlie

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Ken, the Marine in the short video is a Staff Sgt. or E-6 (Same as a Navy 1st. Class PO) the hash marks in the Marines stand for 4 years each same as the Navy so he has at least 12 years in the service. I am not sure but I think there are some Nam ribbons on his uniform so he may even be wearing his old uniform just to show he really cares about his lost or fallen comrades. Dennis

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 22 Jun 2010
Time: 19:36

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charlie, glad to here that xo is ok never know if they are too good for us. have a good night. ken

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Ken, I wish I could have went to the reunion and met the XO, Him and his wife sure helped Toni out when she landed in CC, they took Toni to eat and then to her apt and showed her where she worked. I think they talked a lot on the phone before she flew there. She called the XO a few times and he was out of pocket and he called her and finaly they got it straight. Toni thinks the word of him and wife, Toni's like a humming bird, very active.....Charlie

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charlie, you know our xo better then i do. i am sure to get it done we did need appitace, firemam, 3 rd 2nd first clase cheif, and beyond. thats. military. why do we have queers in the system. ken.

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Ken, this site used to be more orderly and I used to get a few shot fired across my bow, I fired a few back. Gordon thought they were going to make us walk the plank. the XO and I think it was Old Salt, not for sure, finaly gave up. I have learnd a lot about the Hanna here. but I used to check day after day and She was sitting dead in the water. Dennis, Pete, Jim and a lot of others got in conversations about there experiances it's great....Charlie

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Ken, your wrong about that. We have the XO,we just don't have any strips for him to bust, he can't put us on restriction or toss us in the brig. We can be juvinile delinquents here. He dosen't ever post, you have to get him riled up. He reads what's going on here every day, I don't think this used to be the jabber site.....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 22 Jun 2010
Time: 17:56

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charlie, you are right about brain to come aboard. their are no xo's on this trip. just people that did their job. ken.

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Brian, come on aboard......Charlie

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dennis, the marine standing at sulute and attension, the stripes on his shoulder is too what in navy? ken.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm
Date: 22 Jun 2010
Time: 16:42

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dennis, their is no way i could have stood at attention for 3 hrs like that marine did. thats what makes the military a special person. by the way got that lincon welder going, all i got to do is put her back on pull trailer. man comimg to pick her up at 9:30 or 10:00 tomorrow. i am 70 don,t want to see it again. latter ken

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I have a cusin that sent me this u-tube link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gfnmDGk0KM&feature=related It shows a lone Marine standing in the center of the street at attention saluting as the Rolling Thunder went past in Washington DC. He stood there holding that salute for three hours until they had all passed. Take a minute and watch the emotion in his face as he stands there. Then read the short paragraph . The reason his head is bowed while saluting is to pay tribute to all the fallen comrades he has. Go Marines, you make us proud. Could any of you stand there at attention for 3 hours like this with the emotions he must have felt ? Dennis

Name: Brian Crane
Email_Address: brcr@earthlink.net
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1960-1962
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V-3 Division
Date: 22 Jun 2010
Time: 12:38

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Anyone home? E-mail brcr@earthlink.net

Name: Brian
Email_Address: Crane
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1960-1962
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V-3 Division
Date: 22 Jun 2010
Time: 12:36

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Anyone home? E-mail brcr@earthlink.net

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Dennis, by the way I ask a Gunney that lives in my apts if the oath the Military uses to swear in is the same, he said so far it is. Our country is going to implode under its use of drugs smuggled in across the border. Every State it eats up a large portion of it's budget to throw them in the slammer. Ours is busting at the seams because the Feds won't take the illegals.....Charlie

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Dennis, what bothers me is who is appointed to the Supreme Court, they are there for life. We can't even have the 10 Commandments on Public property. Read the differance between the Confederate Constitution and ours. It it allmost Identical except They took Thomas Jefferson Serious went he wrote that States Rights could be taken away by the Feds. In theirs each State ruled itself in a Confederation. States Rights is what started the Civil War, not slavery, the south was selling cotton to England for a larger price than the north would pay. The north had all the war ships and blocked the shipments.....Charlie

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Just food for thought......... Check and see who the largest oil corporation contributor to Obama's campaign was and also which one had the largest contribution for any oil company so far in history and then you will see why it took so long for him to get on their case about the oil spill. Dosen't take a rocket scientist to figure who is buttering his bread and why he has been so quiet. Come election time regardless which party you vote for, keep in mind NOTHING was done while these clowns were bickering over the health bill for how many months ? and please look at all their track records, do they vote the way you want them like they are paid to do. Then make your choice. Dennis

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 21 Jun 2010
Time: 20:03

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charlie, before i go to bed, got to say this. obama's health plan sucks. the people that where on gov. assitance already had it. now the people that had to pay all these years have pick up more low life. so we will pay for people that screw all night and sleep all day. and still get food stamps and all the other give aways for no goods. better go to bed before i go get one of them. have a good night ken

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Ken, I usaly just get to spend an hr or 2 with Toni. She get's VIP rooms at the casinos that that dosen't cost her a nickel along with free chow, and drinks. A lot of her friends meet her there or at the BoneFish a seafood and lounge right down the road across from the beach. She ask about CuJo all the time......Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm
Date: 21 Jun 2010
Time: 16:34

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charlie, why don't we vote for a old yeller dog at lease he has instinck about what's going on. our politicans don't. glad you and cujo are ok. tell toni hi and hope everything goes the best for her. ken

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 21 Jun 2010
Time: 15:45

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charlie, you are right about quality control. who knows if he an't paid off. it's something that the american people better wake up to, our gov. has not. and we are paying taxes for them idoits to take care of it. and the word gov. means by the people for the peorle. thats why our ancesters came over here to start a new honest country. but greed and power took over after years. so here we are in one big mess. ken

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Ken, I'm doing good, I have to shut my mouth sometimes to let other Shipmates bring up food for thought for us share. I had a house full over Fathers day, I was glad to see the door hit them in the butt. At least they cleaned up their mess, Toni let me know for sure she will see me this weekend. I wouldn't bruise that butt for nothing, thats USDA Choice T-bone. I forgot to tell Gordon I'll wear that Royal Navy hat anywhere.....Charlie

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Gordon it was in US waters and should have had a US Quality control inspector aboard. I'm sure it gave a wakeup call to. This is something that won't go away over night. It wasn't even flying the Brit flag. Obama is really upseting the Brits, Israel and us, he won't close our borders....Charlie

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Hey Gordon, welcome back, I've been wondering about you for a long time. Gordon we aren't upset with the Brits, we are upset with BP taking shortcuts drilling a test well so deeptaking chances they couldn't reverse. It is a Industry that will will also hurt Britons economy as much as ours. Don't listen to Obama and his bunch in DC they just start pointing fingers......Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm
Date: 21 Jun 2010
Time: 13:58

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charlie, are you ok? you are not responding. you said something about toni coming to see you maybe you are busy taking her to see her freinds. anyway let us know that you and cujo are ok. ken

Name: gordon pritchett
Email_Address: gordonprtchtt@yahoo.com
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: ex royal navy
Division_Squadron_Detachment: visitor
Date: 21 Jun 2010
Time: 12:45

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hi there charlie and log regulars have to report to the captains table for my absence from the log, have been having big problems with my computer but now sorted, also charlie the wife and i have been visiting family down southfor a few weeks,anyway i hope that you are in fine fettle and cujo is still mad, glad to know that you wear the baseball cap mind you i would think that the brits are not flavour of the month round your way charlie being a seafaring nation the people over here rearly feel for the local people and the terrible effect on the fishing industry we all pray that they get it sorted more quickly, its been taking me a while to read the backlog on the hannah log but i am getting there still getting brilliant jokes from dennis by the way, nice tto read that you are still the log master charlie keep it up mate yours aye gordon

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Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 20 Jun 2010
Time: 14:04

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charlie, i look at link for oil well. looks like something went wrong. don't know but if you still got link look at it. latter ken.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 20 Jun 2010
Time: 12:56

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charlie. dennis, wayne, phil,jake, henry and david, that made be have a good laught. saddam deserved what they got. hope all of you and yours had a good day latter. ken.

Name: Henry A. McCormick
Email_Address: henry.mccormick82@gmail.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1961-1964
Division_Squadron_Detachment: B-Div.#4&1 Firerooms
Date: 19 Jun 2010
Time: 13:02

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I wish all of you FATHERS have a good day tomorrow. Cheers, Mack

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div.aft. eng. rm.
Date: 19 Jun 2010
Time: 11:50

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dennis. charlie. got oil leak fixed on kholer. the cover for cam gear was bent and warp. guess when eng.broke rod and camshaft.must have hit cover with cam gear. need to put welder back on eng. dennis will take gov. out of play. see how long it will last. ha bet not long. latter ken

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Dennis, In Paris Tx the big deal in school was us boys to rebuild old tractors. one of the favorites was the old Poping Johny's 2 cycle. I had an old Farmall with the steel lug wheels, Dad would have to haul it on a trailer to the fair where we would show them off. You sure didn't want to put it on the road because the spikes punch holes in it. Dad loved it, in the winter when his other tractor would cut rut's or get stuck that thing was unstopable.You had to use a hand crank to start it. He used it for yrs after I went into the Navy....Charlie

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Ken,, Last fall I sold a 1931 Model A Ford that I had taken down to a bare frame and rebuilt the entire car including the wood. Had never done a Model A engine but after I got it all back together and mounted in the chassis I found a gasket that went between the bell housing and the engine. It was all that sealed the rear of the camshaft, It all had to come back out and apart just for that one gasket. Hope your Kholer dosen't have a big take apart issue as I am sure you will be glad to be done with it. Dennis

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 18 Jun 2010
Time: 18:49

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charlie, you are right about lotto, but if you don't have #s you cannot win. by your's and dennis coments i can see what ya'll did for the USA. hope the one elected can remember this is american nation not muselem. got kholer back togeather did start it had a oil leak at cam gear cover. will try to see whats going on in morning have a good night. latter ken.

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Ken, when I lived in Tx I bought enough of those lotto tickets to wallpaper my house. They said proceeds would go into the school fund. It did, they just subtracted that amount that they funded schools from the State budget. If you did hit it by the time they take Fed and State tax out of it you will end up with 1/4 of what they say you will win. same thing with casinos here if you hit over 1K...Charlie

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Dennis, 3 times is a lot. If your hit in the transmition or tail rotor you are in bad shape or anywhere the rotor hits something. Pilots learn to"Crash" them at Ft Rucker Ala. They shut the engine off and point it noise down to pick up air speed in autorotation and just before they hit the deck they pull the nose up. you hit hard. They have a seat to sit in, It knocked the wind out of me in the back.....Charlie

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Dennis, the AF supply in Sigon received most of our clothing supplys, they sold a lot of it on the black market and it ended up on the markets on Tu-do street. it was the main street, We only landed there twice for maintance field machanics couldn't handle. Our Pilot bitched about the bug splater on his windshield witch was a bullet hole. those Airframe Mechanics were good and fast. They would pull my OD duck tape off and patch them all up at the same time. The skin is honey comb and we don't fly at speeds fixed wings did so all I had to do was keep it from catching air and could rip a chunk out. The deck and ribs were solid, you could pull all the skin off it and it would still fly. I think all they did was cut a circle out and had honeycomb plugs the same size made and pluged them glued in with special glue....Charlie

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Charlie, You made me remember a good friend of mine that was also a door Gunner in Nam, Got shot down three times, retired as a E8 with 22 yearsand mostly in one piece. He spent 4 tours in Nam and was one crazy SOB. Just before he retired they put him TDY with a supply squadron, (Big mistake on the Army's part) he was like old Sgt. Bilco. A comshaw artist, He got into the GSA catalog and had the Army ship lots of stuff right to his house by the case. The guy had brass balls. As far as I know he never got caught and went home up in Maine next to the Canadian border. Dennis

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 17 Jun 2010
Time: 20:49

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charlie,at least you got rid of boat. but picked up a other deal. you stayed alive in nam. so the luck is on your side . go buy a mega bucks. going to give you numbers then we can split it 2-4-6-15-40-42 hope we win. going to hit hay. latter ken

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Ken, the answer of me catching shrimp is no, that crazy yankiee woman from Widby Island that lived in Paris Tx came down and made me marry her and dragged my butt back to Paris Tx a couple weeks before season, I went to the Boat and told Joe I was going to have to sell it, I fiqured up how much I had in it. and before sundown he took him a sponser out to sea in it. The next AM I had a check, Joe was the Captain, Carol and I left the next day after a late night on the boat with Joe and a woman, Carol and I went back to my rented house boat....Charlie

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charlie, do not know anything about gps. but all my buddies used it . i would haft to have a lot of cold beer to have fun on that trip. my 1 cousin has a 1850 oliver in line six. hey we did the trans. rear end engine was a perkins in sand under oak tree. we got it done about 7 years ago still ok. did ya'll cetch any thing that smelt like fish on your boating deal.latter ken.

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Ken, I had a small Gps on it that every so often would put a way point in. wind and current can put you in a place you don't think you are. we took it on a lot of shake down cruises, That means cold beer, stars,drum of the engine and a couple gals. If that GPS had quit we I would have no idea there we were at. We were out far enough you couldn't see the Biloxi light house. I had a onboard compass so all I would have to do was head north until I saw lights. This never happend though our trips did good, I let the gals drive as the water was slick that time of year. I would log out with the CG on channel 16 an the marine band on departure. that engine would run forever on it's 60 gal aluminum semi truck alum fuel tank. I put algee killer additives in it. I had filters on everything to protect that diesl engine....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft.eng. rm.
Date: 17 Jun 2010
Time: 18:51

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charlie, 1/3 1/3 1/3 is being very honest. have seen them boards did not know. at 70 am still learing. keep this thing going with everyone that really gives a damn because it makes a difference. ken.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft.eng. rm.
Date: 17 Jun 2010
Time: 18:50

Comments

charlie, 1/3 1/3 1/3 is being very honest. have seen them boards did not know. at 70 am still learing. keep this thing going with everyone that really gives a damn because it makes a difference. ken.

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Ken, my shrimp boat was more of a want to thing, It was small. I think around 28ft. a lot of guys had them, It had a 4 cyl Perkins it it I had the head reworked and put new injectors in it. moved the fuel tank to the rear to keep the bow higher in rough water. I painted it Hanna Gray, with a black water line, darn it run good, The net net has tickeler chains on it that go across the bottom to make the shrimp jump up so your not draging your net on the bottom wearing it out the boards that open the net have to be a match with with the net. I had a Cajun buddy that helped and taught me. he said people all over are looking for a transfer case like mine it was low geard and I put a bigger screw on it and could pull a larger net than most my size. I followed his advice. he was going to be shrimping with me. 1/3rd for him 1/3rd for me and 1/3 rd to keep the boat up...Charlie

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Ken, the problem with Viet Cong shrimper are the don't pay any attention to our laws.We had a boat with 1900 lbs of oil contaminated shrimp two days ago trawling in off limit areas caught in the backbay deheading and freezzing them. They want BP to make forms wrote in Viet Cong. Do we need to write all our laws in Viet Cong. They have been here over 30 yrs. The Fish and game Dept should have done their job in Rockport and that would have never happened. Just like our border, we pay taxes and don't get our moneys worth.....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 17 Jun 2010
Time: 17:44

Comments

charlie, sounds like a no win situration.like the song goes. you have shed some light. did not know that was going on. did our gov. and military know this? latter ken.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 17 Jun 2010
Time: 17:34

Comments

charlie, did not see your coment. that cap dose mean something with people that know about what ya'll went throught. latter ken.

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Ken, S Nam was divided up between the Army and Marines, the N part was higher elevations, The fought the NVR that tried to stand toe toe toe sometimes. they didn't have a chance. S Nam had the rice and rubber plantations. We fought the VC that was supplyd by N Vietnam with weapons but were sneaky. Tet happens New yrs day. They both attact in force. 68 was the worst. I left just before it. It was bad there, I bet the Hanna was busy if she was on station....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 17 Jun 2010
Time: 17:20

Comments

charlie, you said you owned a small shimp boat. when we go to rockport tex.to do whatever, looks like the shimp boats have a lot to do to make a living. did you have people helping you? mostly vietnamese have them on our coast line. had a little problem at first,years ago with the locals. it has got quiet. guess locals got smart. they got it done. latter ken

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Ken, He has done work for me before, Someone recomended him to me a couple yrs ago when I had my A/C compressor changed, He stands behind the work done by his employees. He owns the place and dosen't do it himself. Him and his crew are black. The first trip there he didn't know I was a vet, Today I happened to wear my VietNam Vet hat and he ask me what I did there. I told him a doorgunner, He laughed an said he was a 67N20 too. that's the Armys MOS. He was drafted and his service # started out with US and called it out, I called mine out with RA and he knew I was regular Army. He didn't put 20 in. Chu Lai had a lot of SeaBees there, I landed there only once. I don't know what for? I just climb aboard and sleep. He draws disability for his hearing like I do, I told him that noisey ass M60 will do that, he just smiled and nodded yes....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm
Date: 17 Jun 2010
Time: 15:52

Comments

charlie, glad you got wippers fixed for 82.00 $ i am sure you talking with him . since ya'll where in nam. did help the bill out. working on kholer for welder. got most parts off of ebay at about 1/3 from kholer dealers. thats with shipping. going to have about another 280.00$ in it hope it stay's together. what is tet? never too old to learn latter ken

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A great day today, I got my shave and shower over and got to the mechanic in perfect time, a simple $82 problem. The owner was a door gunner in Nam also, He was assigned up in Chu Lia. He was Army but as I remember it that it was Marine territory, but we flew gunship duty for everyone in need of support. he had a commisioned Officer Pilot. I told him I worked the Delta mostly, I told him I had WO's that were crazy that thought the choppers were lawn mowers. He said I know siting in the door looking up at the tree branchs over the tops of the rotors. He thought I had it tougher down in the Delta but I told him I was out of there just before tet and he was still there....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 16 Jun 2010
Time: 19:49

Comments

charlie, seems like a bullet to the head would be more right then drowing. guess they got their owned beliefts. sure the hog had a little stress in its meat when they ate it. going to bed. latter ken.

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Ken, I never was aboard the Midway, Phil I never seen them eat Balut's in the PI but I'm sure they did, That San Miguel was pretty good beer. I know they ate dogs, I had a Philapino tell me once they liked the ones with black gums the best. We went through a Village once in Nam and they had a hog with a weaved basket thing around it they had just pulled out of the river by a rope, I ask Sarge what's going on, He said they drownd it because it's against their relegion to kill it, this way the river killed it. I told him if we had came through earlier I'd shot the sucker for them. He said it was some kind of village rituial they go through......Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div.aft. eng rm.
Date: 16 Jun 2010
Time: 18:54

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charlie,dennis,david,wayne,pete,jake,randy, we can have a reunion with out the money or traveling. if it was not for charlie i would not had paid another 20.00 for 2 yrs.. i can say except for XO. we are all the same .y'all have a good night latter ken.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng.rm.
Date: 16 Jun 2010
Time: 17:47

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charlie, where you ever on the uss midway?the reason i asked is , when we got back to alemeda in june 1960. been on liberty. the uss midway was in port also. well a sailor from midway and i got into it on dock.he wipted my butt so bad. next morning at mustard i went blind. 2nd class told one of my buddy to take me to sick bay well dr. asked me if i been in fright. said yes told me to get out. hats got misted up in fright. don't remember his name but he was from A div. small world. latter ken.

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phil,charlie, went to google like you said phil their it was. to think i even kissed her after she eat it but guess had other things on mind. by the way, my buddy eat one got sick,broke out with hives. we left next moring. he went to sick bay. dr. asked him what he did on liberty. he said drank screwed and eat . dr. said what did you eat. he said a balut. dr. ran him out of his place. it was over. latter ken

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Ken and Charlie, Ah yes the memories of Olangapo PI and the bridge over shit river. Google (Balut eggs) and you will get all of the information you want or don't want on Balut eggs including what they are called in other places. One of the sites says the best way to eat one is with a pinch of salt, vinegar or lemon juice along with a San Miguel. I won't eat one even a gun point. The San Miguel is good but keep the rest. Barbecue chicken was good when you were drunk but the truth is that was monkey. I have never seen a chicken leg that long except in Olangapo. Pinch your nose shut your eyes and happy eating Phil

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Jim called me, It was good to here from him. He was a good ways north of the floods in Ark. I told him I liked Ark but everytime I went there the ticks would eat me alive, he said nothing changed. They have some beautiful creaks and rivers there. I've got an appointment tomarrow AM to get my wipers fixed. That van is a pain in the butt, I better shut up or it will have me getting something else fixed.....Charlie

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Charlie... I concur about mathematics. I can say that I used algebra once since I got out of school. All the other math proceedures are used daily, but the only time I got involved with an algebra equation was on the ship when we wiped a turbine bearing and had to keep up the same speed with only three engines rather then four. As I remember, there were so many varriables (i.e. dragging a screw) that all we could do is get close. That was the only time I ever really had a conversation with the M-division officer(college boy), who was on watch with us at Main Control. We even did a comparison of the Hancock to a '65 Mustang, wieght ratio to horsepower. I think we figured out that the Hancock would get about 50,000 miles to the gallon, or something insane like that, if it was a Mustang.

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Ken, I never seen anyone in the PI eat them. they are buried chicken and duck eggs that are timed to be dug up before before hatching. I have seen them swallowed in Vietnam. It will make you forget about chow. The elders in Nam used beatle nut, I'm not sure what it was but it was a ground up nut that they used a little frayed out twig the would dip into it and brush their teeth with it for the flavor, their teeth would almost be black, the younger generations didn't use it. I see VC resterants here but it is not real VC food. I never seen them cook much more than rice. you had to watch your step going through a village. the toddlers we naked and would squat and do their job where they were at. my next deployment things had improved a lot. I think medical teams taught them hygen and gave then shots and soap....Charlie

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Dennis that crazy yankee woman of his from widby Island wouldn't leave me alone after he died of a sudden heart attact. of course I went to the funeral and said if theres anything you need call on me. That was the mistake of my life. I ended up shacking up with her and when I got burt out teaching I came to Ms and rented a house boat and bought a small shrimp boat...Charlie

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Dennis, I have fun at walmarts, most the employees know me by sight. You know with my scooter and bib overalls, I have never seen another dog in there but they ask me why didn't I bring Cujo. They get a kick out of her rideing around in the front basket just looking at everything and I'm lucky to get her out without people petting her bald. There are a few wideload gals in there but not many, they don't dress like the e-mails you sent me. You have to admit its not easy to make to make the Presidents or Deans list but to me I already had the basic's down pat from the Hannah and Seabees. I taught at PJC for 9 yrs when offered the job and sold my half of the business to Dave. He got back at me though...Charlie

Name: Jake Jaccard
Email_Address: jake@usshancockcv19.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1962-1964
Division_Squadron_Detachment: X-Div
Date: 15 Jun 2010
Time: 18:55

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By the way, I was happy to hear that the Hancock Bell was found and now someone is being dispatched to get it cleaned and shined up. At least it is being kept by a Naval facility, and not in someone's personal collection of memorabilia. It deserves a place of honor as does our ship, so whomever found it, hooyah to you!!! Jake - tender, Hancock Memorial www.usshancock(dot)com.

Name: Jake Jaccard
Email_Address: jake@usshancockcv19.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1962-1964
Division_Squadron_Detachment: X-Div
Date: 15 Jun 2010
Time: 18:49

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Hi all! Sorry I didn't get to attend the Reunion this year (2010), but too many personal issues kept me near home. I am also dealing with some physical problems in my legs that also keep me 'landlocked' - I was sorry to hear about John Finn and wanted to contact someone at the reunion Thurs the 27th so that they could say some words in his memory, but obviously, someone heard and did that for me - whomever it was, thanks! Rest in Peace, John! We'll meet up again one day. Hersch Pahl continues his slow grind towards recovery after his fall, hip break and replacement. He still says the pain is terrible, but he's got an indomitable spirit. All your prayers in his and wife Bonnies behalf are needed and greatly appreciated by him and by his devoted family and friends. Fair Winds to all, Jake Jaccard, YN of the Hancock Memorial. Come visit again usshancock(dot)com.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng.rm.
Date: 15 Jun 2010
Time: 17:57

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charlie, wish i and cheif did live closer to you but by the time we got finished. with your scooter we would need at lease a 12 hp cast iron block kholer. maybe dennis could take gov. out you would get to wal mart quit.latter ken

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglogal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng rm.
Date: 15 Jun 2010
Time: 17:31

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charlie, you where in olongopoe.help me out you know about them rottien eggs you put a little hole in it and suck the insides out the girls loved them. do not remember how much they where. but cigs. and greenback would do you right. latter ken

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Charlie, If you don't watch it you will wind up on one of those "People of Wal-Mart" emails that show how some of the crazy people dress when they go shopping. I quit school in the 10th grade and joined the Navy just before going to jail, later got two degrees one in Fire Science and another in Commercial Refrigeration. Made the Dean's list all the way through both. My Mother said the first time she caught me skipping school was in Kindergarten. So it was a shock for her to see me straighten myself out like I did. Heck, I just got sneakier as I aged and didn't get caught !. Dennis

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Ken. She's doing great, I had to go to Wal-marts and Win Dixe this AM. The gate guards at wal-marts ask why I didn't bring her. I didn't have room to bring her and buy what I needed. my skooter has a square bar that slips in like a trailer hich to support the basket, I wished you lived here we would make a small pick-up bed for it with your welder, I bought a couple flashing LED lights to put on the rear....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 15 Jun 2010
Time: 15:13

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david, bet it was limp on saddam good riddens to him his brothers, cousins the deck of 52 is where the belong,----- in hell. ken

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 15 Jun 2010
Time: 15:04

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charlie, getting hot. how's cujo doing in ac. doing back yard today. coco still trying to bit wheels and dipstick. i guess the dog thinks i like lawnmower more then her. latter ken.

Name: David Byrum
Email_Address: dtbyrum@gmail.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1961-1964
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V-4 Div
Date: 15 Jun 2010
Time: 14:59

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When they hung ole "Saddam" he sure didn't look like he was going to meet 72 virgins.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eg. rm.
Date: 15 Jun 2010
Time: 12:05

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randy, when you were at olongopoe did you eat any budlups ege with cick inside. i think maybe my spelling not be right, i never ate one by buddy did got sicker then heck. live and learn. latter ken.

Name: Randy C. Summy
Email_Address: ortegaman@aol.com
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1970-1973
Division_Squadron_Detachment: X Div.Print Shop
Date: 15 Jun 2010
Time: 11:36

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Great times we had in Olongopoe!!! I was a lithograpersmate 3rd class...Damn ,, sure wish I stayed in!!! It was a good time even if we didnt know it!!! Havent had any close buddies since!!! The kind you could depend on!!! Bless ya all!!!!!

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Wayne, I used to think 2+2=4, It dose in my bank accout but forget about it in college math, Party nighs were over, It was to the library to study groups, The problen with PJC was the had a high level of people with Drs dergees that should be teaching at a University. Math was a VC attack on my brain. all I could do was memorize the formula's, I still don't understand what I learned. I got by though. I was always good in math until the tried to scramble my eggs. I didn't sign up to be a rocket engineer. I took computer programing instead of the Kings English, it wasn't bad but boreing. I droped to the deans list......Charlie

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Wayne, the 1st 2 yrs I made the Presidents list and got a scholarship, the 2nd 2 yrs I took construction tec it was a pushover also with my experiance in the Seabees but I did learn a lot on civilan contracts and codes. I had to take Math and English and the hard course's to tye every together I have been working for.....Charlie

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Wayne, when I got back from Belize I went to Paris Jr College in Tx under the GI bill, after my 1st Associate Degree I teamed up with a retired Senior Chief that took AC&R with me and opened up a business. Working 02N2 on the Hanna made it a pushover, and under the act you could change your Major before before graduation and I did to be able to come back the next yr...Charlie

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Darn I just turned more light on my keyboard where I can see the keys better. To me our Nation is implodeing. being destroyed from within. Several yrs ago the Feds tried to make Ms change there state flag because it has the "Stars and Bars" on it, We had a State vote and kept it. Several states caved in to Fed pressure and changed theirs. I'm a strongly about states rights, I'm behind Az 100%. The news media controls us, they brain wash a lot of people....Charlie

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Wayne, I can remember whe going to school they put under God in the Pledge of Plegance, I think around 53, There was a flag in every class room that we made the pledge 1st thing in the AM, now they don't even have flags. Wayne I met 3 virgins, the 1st was me, I married the 3rd. It PO'd me when they removed all the 10 Commandments from all Gov owned faciliy's. I wonder if when the military swears in when they re-enlist they still say the old pledge they used to that the last words were so help me God, I will have to ask one....Charlie

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Charlie...You hit the nail on the head about getting caught up in fighting a religious war. You can't be wrong if God is on your side, you know. I just want to know where they are getting the seventy-two virgins from if they get croaked? I can't remember ever meeting a virgin! In fact, why would you want a bunch of virgins anyway? Seems to me that seventy-two hardcore hookers would be a lot more entertaining! At least they know something. As for what you could buy with a buck 30 years ago, you still can. It's just paper but value is solid. Pretty soon we'll be in the same boat the Japanese are in. It takes a few million yen to buy a car, but that's just a valuation. Seems to me that it would make more sense if they just dropped a few zeros off the end of their currency for simplicity.

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They have a Hanna 1967 cruise book in fine condition for $85 @ B&L Military Collectibles on the net, they have a lot of airdale manuls but no MM2. They have a lot of interesting things......Charlie

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Wayne, there is a lot of meret to what you say. We didn't build a new infastructure for them, Everone watches American TV overseas, we look like a bunch of dopers,rapest, thugs that just run around crashing cars to them. I don't watch then myself. We have gotten ourselfs into a Religous War, The Military can turn them into a glass parking lot but that won't work. Just come home and take care of our own problems. We are about to go bankrupt, the world used to turn around the green back dollar. My 1st car cost $50, I spend $150 everytime I go to walmarts. everthings made in China.....Charlie

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Charlie... Everyone forgets that we were governing Japan untill 1953 and are still in Germany. Maybe you call that nation building but it seems to have created two of the strongest economies in the world (not to mention trading partners for us!) and they are both democracies. Not a bad legacy for the greatest generation. Now we're attempting to place two more democracies in the middle of the craziest and most backward part of the world. Incentive to do well for yourself and your families is the key. Once a little free enterprise takes root, there is no closing that pandora's box again. Israel is a great example of free enterprise in that area. It's just too bad that all the regional politics and religious nonsense has to interfere with it natural progression. As for Bush Jr., if someone tried to have my dad assassinated, I'd find a way to "bust a cap" in his ass and stop him from trying it again!(Happy trails, Saddam!) Now it's on to Iran.

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Ken, to me after 911 the Patroit act and Home Land Securety has thrown our Constitution and Bill of Rights out the window. I had copys of them posted in the hallway between my classroom and and shop area at Paris Jr College, it was a point of interest to students, most have leaned about them but never seen what they actualy looked like....Charlie

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Ken, as I saw it Bush Sr went as far as he could under the UN statues, in effect forien countrys controled our military. Jr did good but Iran,syria and others keep supplying and training troops and sneak them in. as soon as we leave they are going to have thier civil war anyway, We should be spending those billions of dollars in the US.....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 13 Jun 2010
Time: 17:24

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charlie, when 911 happen. our cia gov. all off them had it to good including the american people. so it went very sour. george bush sr. in kiwake stop the gen. from getting it done. so here comes george bush jr. son need huodam insane head. so son takes military action. and it is still going. our pres. thinks iran is ok. we might be glass before it's all over. why didn't george bush jr. get seals, seabees, berrays, to take him out. been a lot les on lives and country. that's my opion. ken

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 13 Jun 2010
Time: 17:24

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Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 13 Jun 2010
Time: 16:04

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charlie, when you said about ark. did not relize how bad it was. don't watch much tv. then whats is going on in the war we need to make glass out of that hold thing or we will never be finish. united states of america is being taken over. this is war you got to do the job our people are losing their lives.Over. so they can be free they never will. BE FREE. LETS TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN. latter ken.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft eng. rm.
Date: 13 Jun 2010
Time: 09:56

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charlie, talking about round bails my old boss had about 60 acres he had hay. he got a round bailer asked to to help him , thinking i new what to do. well we started bailing the bailed was about to split in half he asked how do we get it out . i just looked at him,told him i would go to barn get the other tractor wiht chain we would pull her out my the time i got back he figure out just to reverse p.t.o. out it shot latter ken

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Ken, I know what your talking about with the hay, I was raised on my Dads ranch, It has to be dry or it will milldue, we had square bails back then and I sure loaded and unloaded on the trucks to put in the barn, these big round bales are all done by equipment. I don't know a lot about them but was told they were packed so tight the outer layer would shead the weather, Iv'e seen left in pastures stacked in rows,they don't even put them in barns.......Charlie

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Ken, It has been 98, no brezze, the clouds are almost standing still, SW Ark didn't look to good with fte flooding. I wonder if It's effecting Jim. I'm in the slow-motion mode, I watched a bunch of my JAG dvd series last night. I've been trashing things that I know I won't need in the Naval Home, I wished Chuck's X was still around, she used to take care of all my paperwork and file it. I'm going to do what I have to do bit by bit, I don't want to have to go to GQ to get it all done when I go to the Naval Home. I have bought furniture and a lot of crap I won't have room for. what I don't take I'll give to Chuck and let him worry about it......Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng rm.
Date: 12 Jun 2010
Time: 13:15

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charlie, starting to get hot down here. talked with brother in law in senora kentucky. he said they are trying to get hay in,having a lot of rain. told him just send it here. will see how good he is. how's about you getting any rain? latter ken

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I get PO'd, Obama won't let forein built ships better equiped to handle this oil operate in our waters because of a 1927 law that they have to be Union, They are the reason Seabee's can't do a thing in the US. They destroyed or rail system and commercial shipping. all it takes is his signature and can wavey it. He want's Union votes. They could use Seabees to build that border and and help the Coast. We used to have "training exersizes" that all a city had to do was furnish the fuel and materials because US taxes would be paying for it. The rest was on the job training....Charlie

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Wayne, I know what your talking about,the cost of everything keeps going up and my income remains the same. People here on the Gulf Coast are feeling the ripple effect of the oil leak. tourism is way down. We have been lucky the winds have been in our favor so far right here in Biloxi but that won't last forever. People on the East Cost will feel the effects next year because we are the sponing grounds of so many species. There is no way BP can keep it's promises.....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 10 Jun 2010
Time: 18:06

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charlie, all can say you are charlie and people think you or ok.thats good. latter ken.

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Greetings to you all! After reading the log reports of the reunion, I have to say that I was very sorry not to have made it to DC this year. It was supposed to be the highlight of my wife and I this year but alas, we were blindsided by financial difficulties that grew out of control.(thank you Obama!) We were really looking forward to the reunion and an extended tour of the New England colonies but it didn't turn out that way. Chicago is where I grew up, so maybe in 2012 we can make it to the next reunion. Glad to see John as the new president! (Maybe I can get him to fix a few parking tickets for me!)

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Jim, my buddy Ron in the Naval Home played a guitar and sang, the lounge closed at 22:00 so us old farts could still find our rooms without adult supervision. We wrote a song you "Can't Devorice Your Sister" It was about all the crap a guy had to put up with being raised with sisters, It had a good beat and was an instant hit in the lounge, even the Waves liked it. Ron left DC and went back to Ky, His Sisters loved the song, I got me a FEMA trailer on the SeaBee base, he drove down and stayed with me a couple times, he told me he was living in hillbilly country, his Sisters brought him home cooking every day, he was a retired Senior Chief....Charlie

Name: Dalton R. Phillips
Email_Address: daltonphillips@namvetsonline.com
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1964 - 1968
Division_Squadron_Detachment: R DIV
Date: 10 Jun 2010
Time: 00:36

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I would like to hear from others who were on the HANCOCK in February of 1965 when we launched the bombing raids on North Vietnam. I have a new website with a message board for the vets of the Vietnam War. Use the URL below. http://www.namvetsonline.com

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Good morning Jim, That darn Jenny woke me for the midwatch, I think she calls me when no one else will talk to her, She is a phone-aholic and drama queen, She can take a grain of sand and make it baking tater size. You and Dennis have been best buddys for many of years now. I lost contact with mine. I had a bunch in the Naval Home, I missed muster in the lounge one evening and no one knew my last name to call me in my room, all they knew was Charlie and couldn't look me up in the directory, Security even called me Charlie.....Charlie

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Theres a lot of good fishing places in CC, the family and I had a tent and we camped out a lot, The population there was wasn't near what it is now. we liked lake Mathis. The Texas Ranger musiem in Austin is interesting, it has a lot of Bonnie and Clydes and other gangsters weapons, Ken, I'm a Longhorn fan, I knew Alabama would be hard for them to handle, I don't watch National news but every few days, I can't handle it.....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng.rm.
Date: 09 Jun 2010
Time: 20:23

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charlie,dennis or anyone else had too vent. can't change it but know what i am saying.they better (gov) get it together or their will be a revorution. i hope they got a big suicase to take their money to hell.ken

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 09 Jun 2010
Time: 19:54

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charlie, gorge bush jr. made some mistakes but atles he was american, not a muselam. i can not beleive he is running this country. seen signs in neibers yard for obama i ask them about it nobody voted i ask you had a sign in your yard they say i don't know how it got their. right they voted for him. can't say on comp. but it is the way it sould be.ken

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 09 Jun 2010
Time: 19:30

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charlie, most likely they send it to people to see if i am a somebody that would go alittle farter. they need to check their own selfs because we are paying them the word gov. means by the people for the people the so callled gov. forgot that a long time ago.ken

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 09 Jun 2010
Time: 18:42

Comments

because obama and congress and senate screw it up need to get rid of them all and get back to american beleifs what this country was build on. ken

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 09 Jun 2010
Time: 18:42

Comments

because obama and congress and senate screw it up need to get rid of them all and get back to american beleifs what this country was build on. ken

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div.aft. eng. rm.
Date: 09 Jun 2010
Time: 18:33

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charlie, the place we were fishing at port A has a coast guard place right their. plus a uneversity of austin texas longhorns research center. still go to it and look at it when cheif and me go for a vecation with kid son inlaw and grankids they don,t realize my history their.oh well i enjoyed it back then when this president get finish with his term going to be bad for everyone.latter ken

Name: Jim Winn #170
Email_Address: Jwinnfsm@aol.com
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1959 -1962
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V-6 Div & VF-211
Date: 09 Jun 2010
Time: 18:12

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My sincere thanks to all of you who were at the reunion who signed the reunion roster for me and to all of those who talked to me on Dennis Flynn's web cam. My special thanks to Dennis and his wife Patty for getting the roster signed and for making it possible for me to talk to you and see some of the faces of all of you shipmates. It is deeply appreciated! Jim

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I returned off deployment once to CC, I loaded my wife, kids, poles and cooler up and went to the Coast Guard pier on the NAS, I through my lines out and pulled a cold beer out. I didn't bring my church key, I saw a big guy just grab a bottle and just pull the top off, I thought man that guy must have fingers like vice grips, I ask him to open mine and he looked at me like I was crazy but pulled it off, when I pulled the next one out I noticed the little arrow that said twist, I felt like a fool, I showed it to my wife and she laughed also. Pete they had a Sea Plane ramp there from yrs back....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 09 Jun 2010
Time: 15:03

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dennis,chaelie, was at port a at cc. with two buddies fishing game warrent came up ask us for lic. one of my buddies did not have it left it at home. the other buddy and i showed it to him. was a a hole to us the buddy that left it home told him it was hot to get in his car so they could cool off . they bs for about 30 minutes and evrything was ok. so bs goes a long way.latter ken

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Charlie, once I was fishing in a small river in the mountains of Colorado. A game warden came along and watch me for about 20 minutes. I then waded accross the river to fish another spot. Fast moving current, cold as hell and about mid thigh. When I got to the other side he came down and asked to see my Leic. I held it up and he said "Bring it over here" I told him to wait till I was done or wade over. He got pissed but what could he do Shoot me ? After about 1/2 hour he gave up and left. What a jerk ! Most are not like that but I drew the A-Hole of the bunch that day. Dennis

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Dennis, the game warden checked my sons fishing license once, he loves to fish, his girlfriend Gena got bored and got drunk but had her line in, He ask her for her license, she told him it was on the bumper of the truck, Chuck liked to had a heart attack, The game warden shook his head and told Chuck don't let her fall in the bayou and drowned. I'm sure Chuck wanted to toss her in.....Charlie

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Phil, I was evacuated to DC after Katrina, I didn't have access to my bank accounts because the banks were flooded, no mail was being sent to us. I called Capitol one to change my address to DC, I got somebody in India, everything went good until he ask me what state,I told him DC, he said his computer didn't show a state called DC., I told him it wasn't a state, He said I had to live in a state, after about 10 mins of argueing with him I told him I live 4 miles from the President you jerk and hung up...Charlie

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Charlie, you are so right, DC doesn't have a star on the flag and that is because it is the Logic Free Zone and not a state even though the politicos there think they are the cat's meow.. As far as California politics, I have seen better organization at the local dump or if you are politically correct, the recycling center. phil

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Maybe that is why there are no sharks in DC, They are not bottom feeders and can smell the rotten politicians for many miles. Dennis

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Dennis, I can't figure it out, National Parks bring in money and keep people employed. If they just sit there they will deteriate, Dennis I get mad every time I watch news, it is a billions of dollars soap opera photo shoot. They know they can't do anything with that oil rig and hoping side drilling will work. they are spining their wheels now trying to tell the public everythings under control. When they do get it pluged it may take a couple decades for the Gulf to get back to normal, It is a breeding ground for a lot of migratory fish and birds. I haven't heard of any sharks dieing, I think with their sense of smell they haul butt...Charlie

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Dennis you are right. This administration will close the parks and keep all the park workers and give them a raise.The only people hiring is the federal government. And they gave 700 billion to the states to keep the state employees on.

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Here is another thought for you as to how they run things.... Lately they are saying that they may have to shut some National Parks and State Parks down due to lack of funding. All those billions they used for bailing out greedy banks and auto company's a small portion could have been used for something like that so that the American people can keep enjoying them. It is a National treasure that we as Americans can enjoy right here in the US for a very cheap price, good wholesome fun for family's and very impressive for foreign visitors which goes a long way toward foreign good will. I just hope people are paying attention to the "Change" and think about it come next election time. Myself I think "the change" sucks. Dennis

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Charlie, You say BP is delaying to keep the price of oil up. My belief is the Government is keeping it up to force people to buy cars that get better mileage. The cost of a barrel of oil is lower than it has been for years but the price hasn't come down, in fact it is higher. Every time the price goes down people buy big vehicles they really don't need but get them as a ego thing "Mine is bigger than yours" mentality. Every time some complainer gripes, they say "We will investigate" then it fizzles out in a week or so but nothing is being done. Meanwhile the oil company's make huge profits. They should have bailed out the banks and others. Dennis

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Ken, In my experiance Kohler is is a great engine, they are put in a lot of light duty equipment with power to get the job done, they are big bore and sound throaty, I'm thinking the Army had them in what they called the mule, It was a little flat bed 4 wheel drive with a driver, they would haul one heck of a load if you put the transfer case in low, they could go anywhere. I don't know the cubic inch of that engine, they were air cooled 4 cycle. I wish I had one, you might have to use the tie downs to keep the Chief onboard but that dude would go anywhere. no engine will last without oil...Charlie

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Ken, I am honest and have a margine in my thoughts for new imput. but from what I see I'm being told the stern of the ship is the bow. I don't buy all that, new borns are born In over $43,000 in dept before the 1st diaper is put on them. When I went to Jr college I ask my math instructor to write 1trillion on the chalk board, he wasn't sure, I ask him what came after that he had no idea but though zillions. it wasn't in our math book. In space after so many millions of miles it turns into .0 light yrs on up. I wish I had as may answers as questions, but here on earth In the US so far I will speak my piece. I belive every state on the flag has it's own rights, there is not a star for DC....Charlie

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Ken, to me it has just been a buch of BS to keep politicians and the news happy talking about something until Aug. we are over due a hurricane witch would screw that up. The Coast Guard are shallow water Saliors, they only repete what they are told, General Officers or Admirals don't but heads with Presidents. Look what happen to Mcauthrtor, we wouldn't have a N Korea problem if Truman hadn't hobbled him. To me the jungles of Nam would be better than frezzing to death in Korea I would have given then a taste of Heroshima. But I guess you see why I'm not President. If I carry a big stick I will whop you with it. no questions ask, Jack with me you know what to expect. just like a thug on the street...Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 08 Jun 2010
Time: 19:38

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charlie, the way here is they where going to cap well anyway till price got right that's is bull corn. i can not believe people are that low. hope they got their suitcase ready for what happen. latter ken.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 08 Jun 2010
Time: 18:15

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charlie, you are something else.but honest and close to right. but not all the time, did you get link on oil well live vidio latter ken.

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Trenton I could be wrong but didn't they become Electonc Warfare Tecks, My oldest son was dateing a female one, He was 2nd class BT, and when I went to SD to visit them he opened the door and she was butt deep working the dishs washer over, parts everywhere, I told him shouldnt you be doing that. He said she won't let me. We took a trip to TJ. Sherl and I had a blast with her, my son and wife in tow. To much tequila, I told my son he had a keeper, she's smart enough to think for both of you, She is VP of a electronics Jr college and dose not want Prez. he has to put up with all the political BS. When she got out of the Navy She had to drive all the way to China Lake ammo bunkers I forget the name but Pilots practiced missle lauches. she was still in college then but had to test and iventory them, I think she was civil service at the time. She has come a long ways from her butt sticking out of a washing machine....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 08 Jun 2010
Time: 17:32

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charlie, went and got anothner 150 linclon welder for kholer eng. they ran it without oil so block was ok. order parts from grow up person. his wife is to ugly to be with kid. but they are greed. hope they filled a suicase with money so they can take it with them i am piss. their price 300.00 dol. got it for 85.00 that's what you get with greed. latter ken.

Name: TRENTON LEE rOUDABUSH
Email_Address: TRENTROUDABUSH@@YAHOO.COM
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1973-1975
Division_Squadron_Detachment: E-div
Date: 08 Jun 2010
Time: 14:31

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I was a IC MAN

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 08 Jun 2010
Time: 14:07

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charlie, it makes my day to read your coments. i think cat moved their eng. plant to seguin tx. because where they had it the unions where killing them. don't care glad it's here now seguin is a little down home country town. latter ken.

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Rob, my worst nightmare would be for the rest of the country to be run like Calif. The news if it's not happing in DC it's Calif, some how the forget there is a few states in the middle, Calif was one of the most prosperous states, now it is the most bankrupt, It is a magnet for gays, and drugs, Mexican Mafia, it is part of us having the most divided Nation since before the Civil War. It would hurt my feelings if they sawed it off and pushed it out to sea. Sorry if you disagree but I like my kicked back Southern Living that still has Religion, Belives in the Constitution, States Rights, My Sister lives in Fresno, My oldest Son is about to retire as MMCM out of SD and moving to Montana. I may make you mad but I prefer my life to yours, I wouldn't live out there if they gave me a new mansion. Good luck with the places in town you can go without getting mugged, I've been there done that, people have there areas of safety and don't leave them....Charlie

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Ken, Cat builds the toughest longest lasting equipment in the world, When I was in the Seabees they were cherished, We mostly used what we called corn binders, "International Harvester" because they were cheaper. Case used to build some really tough eqipment but nothing big. It's a shame Congress passed laws SeaBees can't help our own country out because of Unions haveing them passed, they build the hell out of other countrys, put the battalions on building our border and they could do it in short order and have the firepower to back them up. Women always said don't let a Seabee sting you, it takes 9 mos for the swelling to go down. You won't make it in the Bees if your lazy. Their wifes are called Queenbees, and have support groups that help deployed Seabee wifes out. I was proud to serve as one. Most Military respect them because of there reputation...Charlie

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Ken. I have a electronic clock on the wall that sets itself by satalite like a GPS. It is Military time to the second, it tells me what the date, day and has an outdoor in indoor temp reading. It says the same as my computer, I think Hannas Computer is in a differn't time zone, Old Salt will know, There is a big difference East and West of the Ms river, In my travels Texas is one of a kind, Ok and Ark are close kin, as many yrs as I have been away from Tx I still have an accent people here pick up on, not like I used to have though....Charlie

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Hi Charlie, best you not loan your handicap ticket to people wanting to use your parking space.[ re:yours of the 7th of june ] here on the west side it will cost them $432. 00 dollars if caught.

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The lounge is the hangout, you take your gals down there,I say down there because it was on the 1st floor and my room was on the 9th they had a blast, the old farts would dance their legs of an fill them full of booze. I think I was 60 when I went in, I was the youngest, they used to call me damn teenager or Charlie, they had some kind of point system to get in, yrs in a combat area, decorations, length of service, background check and that kind of stuff and would push you up the ladder to get in.I got in quicker than I expected, Gpt had a waiting list, DC had a problem keeping there residence up. after being evacuated there I can see why, It is not the Home but the location, If you leave after dark you are a target for mugging...Charlie

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Rob, one of my best shipmates, was a Tin-Can Sailor, He got full of beer at a place, and walked over to a pizza place and orderd a pizza to be delivered, he told the gal he wanted to ride with the pizza guy. He started eating his pizza and got a free ride home, he didn't have to get a taxi. Viagra was everywhere, the Bilox Beach hotel kept rooms vacant on the 1st floor vacant for us, because we were regular customers. they would key in all the discounts, Military ARRP, and I don't know what all but ended up about $40 right on the beach. It wasn't no big deal to sneak them into your room but we only had single bunks, the showers were private stalls but for all residents, you would take them in the wee hrs of the AM, the big catch was they had to have a visitors pass to feed them in the galley. Women loved it though, they thought they were pulling something off. Security never really give a darn you were resposable for them and as long as there was no trouble....Charlie

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Rob, the same is true here, the Naval Home is not public property, there are no fines there. they are really slack with the residents. for visitors to get in the gate guards will call you and you authorize them to get in, the tag allows them to park in your space close to the elevators in the parking garage where if they are with the resident they can take them places in their vehicles just like the public. it is not giving them a tag to keep and use everywhere. The new parking garage is multi-level huricane resistant. the old home we had 3 regular parking lots and if you drove your car about every 3 weeks and had to park in a differn't one looking for a space we would forget witch one we parked in and the search was on, I swore I was going to paint my van day-glow. owning a vehicle there can be a pain. every place you went you hauled a van full with you...Charlie

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hey charlie, realise that you are east of the missippi but- unless the laws there are a bunch different than this left side you can be in a bunch of s--- lending your handicap tag to others to use your parking space. unless you are using the vehicle it is illegal to display. here in california its worth a hefty fine of $432.00 [ thats a hell of a lot of beer money] the first time. and up from there for repeats. better check and see if the laws are the same or similar. rob

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Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 07 Jun 2010
Time: 21:05

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charlie, cat is getting ready to open plant in seguin to make cat. eng. going to be good for south tex. latter ken.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft eng. rm.
Date: 07 Jun 2010
Time: 20:17

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charlie, we are still off of time if i am central and you are central. the time where the comp. is in calf. 2 hrs diff. maybe the clock is lying. latter ken.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 07 Jun 2010
Time: 18:47

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charlie, will send it when i get finish with this. hey you won't have any thing to make a mistake on so you will not be doing anything. i bet you will find something to say. going to send link now under mksureddin@sbcglobal.net this time.ken.

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I bought Cujo some dog cookies that look like orio's. I hope I don't get hers mixed up with mine and eat them all up from her. She is bird hunting, I opend the sliding glass door and didn't close the screen and some flys came in. she is like a tornado behind the blinds catching them, she actualy fast enough to catch a few. she learned not to eat June bugs, She caught one on the patio and puked. ....Charlie

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Ken, re-send it, I opened it this AM and deleted it. I thought it was junk mail. My son and I took a drive around down by the beach and Naval Home. It's a beautiful day, theres not many people on the beach, oil hasn't hit it. Theres not many tourist at all, This oil screwup is going to hurt the Gulf Coast more than Katrina. I mailed my physical to DC this AM registerd, The Lady at the post office was AF and has told her kids she was going to try to get in it. She ask if could sneak some wine in, I told her you don't have to, they have their own lounge and exchange you can buy anything you want. I'm going to sell my van and won't have to worry about about ins, maint, or nothing. I'm going to register my van there to get a reserved parking space for my visitors. I have a life time handicaped thing they can put on their mirror.....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 07 Jun 2010
Time: 13:22

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charlie, you will need to allow pop ups to open it ken

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 07 Jun 2010
Time: 13:12

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charlie, you said a mouth full. hope we can meat in person before its over. going to send you a link. they are trying to do someting don't no what. ken

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Ken, Dennis, people come up with some crazy names, right after the civil war Texas had a Govenor named "Big Jim Hogg" He named his 2 daughters "Ima Hogg" and "Ura Hogg", Texas history was never boring to me, our Nation is wanting to rewrite our history books, Stalin and Hitler did that. You can't un-ring a bell, If I had kid's in school today I would take a bank loan out to send them to a private school. They and Catholic schools run circles around public schools here that all they can to teach is political correctness.....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 06 Jun 2010
Time: 19:10

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charlie, i am back we were in frisco tex. for grandaughter grauduation. they knew where paris tex. was not to far. my son has a place on cedar creek lake, gum barrel city is right their, son inlaw is from quiteque very close to turkey tex. small world read what you said about physical you had sounds like you are their at naval home latter ken

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Dennis, I have drove through Gun Barrel is a name you don't forget, we refuled and ate there. It was small, modern and well kept up, In Texas if you get off the freeway theres a little town about every 30 miles every one of them have a uniqe name. every thing from bossom to turkey Tx. comfort there was so many deer you didn't no which one to shoot, not much of a sport. this was yrs ago. Tx like every where the population has increased so much I have no idea what it is like now...Charlie

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Charlie, Jim Winn lives in Fort Smith AR and my daughter lives in Broken Arrow OK but they are only about 2 hours apart. Before my daughter moved to Broken Arrow she lived in Gun Barrel Texas. I asked he where she found these places with such different names. But there are a lot of towns in the uS with really different names and sometimes you wonder what they were smoking when they named them. Dennis

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Donald, I remember where I heard of Senatobia Ms, that's where they just opened up that new solar panel factory, For you guys that think we have a lot of funny names most places are named after Indian tribes or what the called them. Biloxi is the name of a tribe, most were cleared out by the Feds on the trail of tears to OK....Charlie

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I'm sure Jim appreciated it, I remember when I 1st come aboard the site he said he was in broken arrow OK. It never clicked in my pbrain and told him he was in my old stomping grounds at broken bow. he let me know he was a lot further north, I don't know if he remembers but I told him the Indians must have been experamenting with their new hi-tec gear when they named those towns...Charlie

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Hey guys, Thanks for taking the time to say hi to Jim Winn over the laptop at the reunion, I am sure it made his day since he wasn't able to attend. It was a nice way of letting him be there by proxie. Also I am glad all enjoyed the models of the Hancock and others at the reunion. Mike it was great of you to bring your cruse book collection and offer copies to those interested. We had a great time and relived many old memories with friends and met many new ones. Dennis Flynn

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Pete, thanks for the pics, I need to ask you a question, do Officers sleep with their ties on. I can't stand anything around my throat. I bet your proud of that A4F Dennis made for you, Your right it is a lot different than the A4D's that I saw. The next reunion if I have to go to a neck tie event I will be wearing a neckerchief, I have time to practice on my square knot. I used a clamp on in the Army and wore it in my pocket most of the time...Charlie

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Donald, Senatobia Ms. rings a bell for some reason, I think it is up in northern Ms. I live in Biloxi and never have been above Jackson. I did a left flank there and went through Vicksburg going to Texas...Charlie

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Ken, yor about 105 miles west of my old home town. I never did care for Dallas but come to think of it I never did care for any big city. Dealy Plaza was interesting to me where Kennedy got killed, I was aboard Hanna and we were off PI and they anounced it over the MC. I saw it on TV back in the States but to see where it happend Oswald didn't have to be any super shot, It's not that big, The schoolbook depository is a great tour......Charlie

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Something is wrong, I passed my physical with flying colors yesterday for the Naval Home, I got a message from Toni today that she will visit me on the weekend of the 26th. A frezzer full of food and cold beer in the fridge, all that just for the loss of my windshild wipers. Murphy must be holding back to get me good.....Charlie

Name: Christina Clark
Email_Address: mayes.christina@yahoo.com
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1943-1945
Division_Squadron_Detachment: NTS Newport, RI
Date: 04 Jun 2010
Time: 12:28

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I'm trying to find the list of people my father was with on the Hancock during 1943-1945. My Dad passed away in 2001 and my mother and I are trying to keep his memory alive to pass on to our children, Rodney's grandchildren, and his great-grandchildren. If anyone out there remembers Rodney J. Clark from Franklin, NH, please let us know...e-mail me at mayes.christina@yahoo.com

Name: Donald P. Freeman
Email_Address: P.O. BOX 1443 SENATOBIA MS. 38668
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1972-1975
Division_Squadron_Detachment: VA-164/S6 division
Date: 04 Jun 2010
Time: 10:34

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searching for info . my life was saved by Edward J.Winston he recieved medal for this. he pulled me and two men from lower birthing after it flooded with jet fuel need this info for my compenision He was a member of S-6 Divison. I can be reached at cell#662-501-0118

Name: DONALD P. FREEMAN
Email_Address: P.O. BOX 1443 SENATOBIA MS. 38668
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1972-1975
Division_Squadron_Detachment: S6 DIVISION
Date: 04 Jun 2010
Time: 10:23

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AWARDS GIVEN TO S6 PERSONNEL EWARD J. WINSTON WAS AWARDED MEDAL FOR PULLING ME AND TWO OTHJER MEN TO SAFETY WHEN LOWER BERTHING FLOODED WITH JET FUEL NEED INFO TO GET MY COMPENISON

Name: DONALD P. FREEMAN
Email_Address: NO ADDRESS
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1972-1975
Division_Squadron_Detachment: S6 DIVISION
Date: 04 Jun 2010
Time: 10:13

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AWARDS GIVEN TO S6 PERSONNEL

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: M div.aft.rm.
Date: 04 Jun 2010
Time: 09:30

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charlie, whats going on? chief and me are in Dallas attending my oldest granddaughter's graduation. She is going to University of Arkansas in Fayetteville...I'm having trouble on this new computer. I'll get back with you Sunday when we get back to San Antonio.

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SHIP'S BELL. Yes, that is the bell. I found a picture of it awhile back on EBay, so bought it, and sent to Dan Colleran. It was taken while the ship was still in commission, but not sure when. A search for the bell started way back when, and reportedly it was at some Coast Guard base, although no one could find out where. Dan somehow located the bell outside COMNAVAIRLANT HQ recently. It is in terrible shape, having been vandalized, covered with sea gull stuff, etc. The whole story will be in Hannah Newsletter, probably Sept issue. Old Navy tradition is that the ship's cook shine the bell. So, passing it off to the mess cooks follow that, I guess. Dan is working with a CPO from COMNAVAIRLANT to get it back in shape.

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Doug Wright, there is another BUNGHOLE liquor store on Lowell St. in Peabody,MA. I checked it out this morning. It is owned by the same people who have the BUNGHOLE on Derby St. in Salem,MA. The store on Derby St. has been there since 1933. I grew up about 1/4 mile away. Like you, I'm sure all the visitors to Pickering Wharf have a good chuckle over the name. It was a pleasure to meet you at the reunion last week.

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Pete, It makes me feel good that people ask about me at the reunion, I'm going to make the next one for sure. I have my priority set to get back in the Naval Home this yr come hell or high water. It was a brezze to get my physical done today, It rained like a cow p'ing on a flat rock today and when I turned into the VA my wipers quit. I have no idea why nothing is ever easy for me. I like my new Dr, CuJo and I got our after supper nap over......Charlie

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XO, I met a guy at the VA this AM that was aboard the LEX from 55-58, he has seen it in CC, he said the gun tubs were lower when he was aboard. He was a plane pusher on the hangar deck and was transfered to supply. I told him I was on the Hanna and he said he saw her and ask whatever happend to her, I told him she got scraped....Charlie

Name: Phil Torres
Email_Address: Phil.torres@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: .
Years_Aboard: 1965-1968
Division_Squadron_Detachment: E Div IC Gang
Date: 03 Jun 2010
Time: 11:10

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Wayne, I was glad to hear that the ship's bell had been found, if it is the bell that was located on the sponson starboard side forward just below the flight deck, that is the bell that David Mercer (deceased) and myself polished every morning during our tour of mess cooking/compartment cleaning of the Cooks berthing compartment (1966). If I lived closer to it's location I would gladly volunteer to give it a good scrubbing and spitshine polishing. Phil

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LIFE MEMBERSHIPS: The following Association members are the latest to get their Life Memberships. This means that they will no longer have to pay dues every two years. Contact me for any information you might want. #355 Ed Taylor, B Div, 44-46, #356 Dennis Clark, ISC, Ret, OP/AIO Div, 65-67, PT3, #357 Ed Boraski, V-2 Div, ABE2, 66-69, #358 J. Aubry Vance, VF-211, 65-65, #359 Plankowner Charles Engle, V-2 Div, 43-45.

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SHIP'S BELL. Dan Colleran, the Editor of the Hannah News is working on a project for the Ship's Bell, which has finally been located at COMNAVAIRLANT HQ in Norfolk, VA. As we develop this project, we will put out all the information. Probably as a story in the Hannah Newsletter in September.

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Wane, I'm looking forward to info on the Ships Bell, where will it be displayed? Was it the one they rang when they announced "Captain Leaving" and things like that. I've never seen it but I thought it was the one on the fwd brow they rang......Charlie

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Mack, The snipes must have been on there best behavior, I never met many with a "Lot of Class", As I remember we poked our heads up above the armor deck when we heard "Liberty Call" and headed ashore full head steam and had the screws turning at max rotation, that was yrs ago, we have become domestic now though...Charlie

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I sure wish I had met John Finn, It sounds like he was one heck of a guy and a true Hero. I'm sure the shipmates that known him will always have a place in their hearts forever for him, I understand the family wanting a small personal funeral....Charlie

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Reunion was great, in spite of finding out about John Finn on first day. Really put a damper on everything. Hannah News is being delayed a few days to get stuff in about reunion, and about John Finn. Don't send Dan Colleran questions on where is it...it is coming soon. And, watch for info on ship's bell. He found it, and is looking for working party in Norfolk VA to shine it up to original brillance. We have several guys who are trying to go to John's funeral, but family wants SMALL one. For John Finn, our WWII hero, may you have fair wiands, and following seas. We will never forget you, and all of your many sea stories. To John Hunter, who relieved Don Mettler as President of the Assn, Smooth sailing shipmate!

Name: Henry A. McCormick
Email_Address: henry.mccormick82@gmail.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1961-1964
Division_Squadron_Detachment: B-Div.#4&1 Firerooms
Date: 02 Jun 2010
Time: 19:01

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My wife and I made it to the reunion and made it home safely. A lot of BT's attended, we gave the reunion a lot of class. You all take good care now. Cheers, Mack

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At the reunion, Dennis Flynn had outstanding models of the Hannah and her A/C from the '60s. It was an amazing display of intricate modeling work.

I really want to thank Dennis for the A-4 model he made for me from my time in '73 -75. It is now proudly displayed in my home! Thank you Dennis! Pete

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At the reunion, Dennis Flynn had outstanding models of the Hannah and her A/C from the '60s. It was an amazing display of intricate modeling work.

I really want to thank Dennis for the A-4 model he made for me from my time in '73 -75. It is now proudly displayed in my home! Thank you Dennis! Pete

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 02 Jun 2010
Time: 18:02

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charlie, get them papers filled out i don't think i would put it around cujo neck and tell cujo to deliver i am glad to here things are moving in the right direction. ken

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I would like to acknowledge our shipmate, Dennis Flynn, for his efforts to establish web contact at the reunion, with another shipmate, Jim Winn, who was unable to attend. Dennis made it possible for Jim to "attend" after all. Bravo Zulu, Dennis! Pete

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng.rm.
Date: 02 Jun 2010
Time: 17:49

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charlie, you are right about chainsaw, they though the oil well was going. started moving saw and hyd. power unit. and broke the hose and fitting. must stilled had been running i knew the well thing was history you should had sean the peaces fly when it broke. sure hope it works got my doubt. ken

Name: Tom Loder
Email_Address: tomloder@rocketmail.com
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1969-1973
Division_Squadron_Detachment: B Division
Date: 02 Jun 2010
Time: 13:29

Comments

Please change my email address to

tomloder@rocketmail.com

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I got my papers in the mail today to take my phyical for the Naval Home today, I called the VA and my Dr happend to have an appointment open at 11:30 tomarrow. I mail them in and wait to get issued a room. I look for that to happen in Sept. I see where the blade got pinched cutting that pipe on the oil rig, anyone that has cut a tree down with a chain saw knows that will happen if you don't notch it.....Charlie

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Ken, my sore spot is everyone trying to tell the people everything is under control and we are busy in Congress drawing up papers to sue BP, So what? very little money received will come to the Gult Coast, they won't even plug the hole up in our boarder because it will cost them money instead of making some......Charlie

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Pete, I only landed in Chi-town once. I think it is a major air hub. Sarahs Brother got killed in Nam and we took emergency leave from Germany. I'm thinking around 69, we never left the terminal. I wasn't out of Nam long and they had me in the 3rd AD, It was a lot easyer transition learning the new modifications than to come out of tanker school to a buch of crazy chopper pilots that I think enjoyed scareing the crap out of me, I double checked my safety strap, I think they were trying to sling me out of that thing, they had doors that were closed where they were. I would cuss them over the head set and they would laugh. Actualy my 1st time on a chopper was when I went to Jungle Warfare School but they didn't joke around, I wondered why they sent me there out of tanker school. You don't have to repell out of a tank.....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft.eng.rm.
Date: 01 Jun 2010
Time: 19:40

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charlie, they are macthing the cut now, to say if it might work. are you connected to the vidio. if not will send you link.ken

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Pete, I really wanted to go to the reunion but lifes problems prevented me, I should be settled in the Naval Home by the time of the next one. I kick myself in the butt for not going now, I keep a safety buffer in my bank account so I don't have to worry about the unexpected things. In the Naval Home they take theirs out and the rest is liberty call.....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 01 Jun 2010
Time: 19:11

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sorry charlie, did not mean too hit a sore spot.i know it was a bad screw up but it needs to be fixed. got to try maybe and i hoped they will get it done. latter ken

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft eng. rm.
Date: 01 Jun 2010
Time: 18:49

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charlie & tom, been watching them worked on oil well all day, can not believe the tech. this world has way beyond my brain. they i think are giving it their best to get it done. latter ken.

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Ken, sure they have high teck robots, They have them building cars, but what they do is what humans have them do, they can't tell them to go plug that well and leave it up to them, everyone down here is praying it works. 17,000 psi estimated pressure comeing out of the well is no small thing. it could be a lot more it is not a known factor.....Charlie

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RTB was successful...Reunion was Great! Beth and I enyoyed meeting all! Charllie, everybody ask for you. Pete

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Ken, I am so sick of that oil well screw ups I don't even want to see it until they get it pluged up, every politician wants a photo opp. If this dosen't work it will be gushing out full force. The same engineers that screwed up from day one will be jacking with it and says this has never been done at this depth, they knew how deep it was when the started. They say winds blow it this way and that. what are they going to do if a huricane hits....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m. div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 01 Jun 2010
Time: 18:28

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charlie& tom been watching them working on oil well all day. it's unbelevable the tech. we have, way beyon my brain. hope they get it stopped. i think they are giving it their best. have a good night. ken

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Great time at the reunion in Washington D.C. Great getting together with old and new friends. I will definitely (and I challenge you to) be at the next one in Chi-town.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 01 Jun 2010
Time: 07:57

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charlie, the internet got live video of them cutting oil well pipe. if you can,t find it let me know will email you info. ken

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Gordon, where are you, you quit posting long ago for some reason, I wear that Royal Navy hat sometimes, It throws people a curve sometimes, I wore it once to walmarts and there was a couple of lady frome England on holiday and thought I was a Brit, as soon as I spoke back to them they knew I wasn't. but we had an enjoyable conversation. they said they come here every couple yrs......Charlie

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Ken, you don't live that far from the XO and Toni, I got a message from her today telling me she wishes she was here so we could make some BB-Q , She said you would have to make it of course, she can't boil water without burning it. I told her I had beer and pizza,that's a no-no for her watching her figure. she jogs like a road runner every day, I miss Texas but it wouldn't be the same with the population explosion. It's not the same here as it once was. To many yankies and they build stuff that dosen't fit in the old south culture.....Charlie

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Ken, our President sent 1200 NG down to help with the oil rig thing, what the heck do they know about oil spills, he should have sent them with the other 1200 he sent to the boarder, these bandaid patches for a bullet wound isn't going to work. thanks for letting me to vent back. I sure hope we get a beter balance of power in Congress com Nov.....Charlie

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Ken, I-10 freeway that runs about 10 miles north of me is a major coridor for drugs heading east, I read all the time our highway patrol making big bust on dope going one way or big money going the other. I don't have to tell you all the problems with Illeagls, all are not from Mexico, we are geting terriost crossing......Charlie

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Ken, The south west always had a Mexican flavor to it, most were good people and adapted to our ways and learned our language. I've got aquainted with a few and had fun hunting javilina and partying with them. That was many yrs ago. Texas Mexicans didn't like Calif Mexicans and called them Chicono's, That was before the flood started across our boarders. People have been asking our Gov to close it up for yrs, they won't do it.....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksurddin sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958- 1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 31 May 2010
Time: 19:41

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c harlie, i am not prejudice.but no one is worth a crap but me ha ha.ken latter

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 31 May 2010
Time: 17:54

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charlie, got to vent. i am in san antonio, not hispanic but mexcans out numer us 3 to1 because they work all nght having kids, sleep all day. my bush pickup is now ,don;t have any so mexcan throw his crap on my lawn. look at their place---bad.. told the mon, said thats my son. he is young about 30. i give up, have a good night charlie. ken

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John, If your talking about BT1 Rufus Mills that was in charge of all the 02N2 Plants, I didn't see much of him when they put a new plant on the starboard side of the hangerdeck. I was in charge of #1 and the Hanna was cold Iron when I left in Feb 64. I'm sure Elmo Shrader to over one of them, They were both from Ga. Those Ga boys sure had some funny names, Shrader re-enlisted and was at 02N2 school when I left. He was my liberty buddy and one heck of a blast. he was 6mos behind me time in grade. Mills hung out in the #2 plant and Shrader was in charge but when the Boss is there all the time it's not like running your own plant....Charlie

Name: John E. Carlson
Email_Address: pcarlson001@centurytel.net
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1960-1964
Division_Squadron_Detachment: A-2 Div
Date: 31 May 2010
Time: 13:15

Comments

Yes, there was steam heat and catapults. Remember in a Bar in Oakland, running into Mills, after I was discharged. He had bought a new Ford Convertible, that was my last contact with a Hancock shipmate. Can't put faces with names and visa versa. Left the Hancock in January 1964...MM2. Came aboard with a screw on my shoulder from A School in November 1960? Japan.

Name: David Chidester AD 2
Email_Address: davechid@gmail.com
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1-1972 10-1972
Division_Squadron_Detachment: VA 164
Date: 31 May 2010
Time: 13:00

Comments

I can't believe its been 38 years since I've been on the Hancock.

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God bless our fallen Military Brothers.......Charlie

Name: David Byrum
Email_Address: dtbyrum@gmail.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1961-1964
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V-4 Div
Date: 30 May 2010
Time: 14:57

Comments

Its been a great reunion, it has been nice to put faces to names, Pete, Dennis and Helmut amoung others. Looks like Chicago in 2012.

Name: GMTCS James Allen
Email_Address: fog@fognet.net
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1971-1973
Division_Squadron_Detachment: W Division
Date: 30 May 2010
Time: 07:15

Comments

Feel free to email if you know me.

Name: Kevin Jones
Email_Address: kevin@kevinjonesonline.com
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: N/A N/A
Division_Squadron_Detachment: N/A N/A
Date: 29 May 2010
Time: 18:19

Comments

The Jones Family sends their deepest sympathy to John Finn's family. He was a true American hero. Rest in Peace, John.

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Re John Finn: It has been announced that John will be buried next to his wife Alice in a private service conducted by the Campo Indians. That's what John wanted. I was sort of afraid that someone would try to get his burial switched to Arlington. Honors will be provided by the Assn of Aviation Ordnancemen and the Congressional Medal of Honor Society.

Name: Bill Burgess
Email_Address: blbrgss@aol.com
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1968-1972
Division_Squadron_Detachment: B div #4 fireroom
Date: 28 May 2010
Time: 21:14

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So sorry to hear about John Finn's passing. Glad I was able to meet him in live oak springs last summer, while visiting my brother who also lives in the area. Very sharp for 100 years old, talked my ear off. Also, a very humble guy, he said "I think the real heros were the guys fighting in the jungle for years, it was only one day for me." He will be missed !!...... Bill

Name: Jim Brush
Email_Address: jimbohd54@yahoo.com
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1971-1974
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V-2 cats
Date: 28 May 2010
Time: 11:30

Comments

R.I.P. John Finn. I had the honor of meeting him at the reunion in San Francisco. A great man. A great Sailor

Name: Douglas Wright
Email_Address: douglas@lusfiber.net
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1967-1969
Division_Squadron_Detachment: HC-1
Date: 28 May 2010
Time: 07:58

Comments

Fair Winds indeed, John Finn. The "Great Generation" is slipping away. It's their devotion to duty, honor, & country that gave the rest of us freedom to shine like the stars, or make fools of ourselves. Our choice.

I've been awol from the log for a while, and now I have a new email addrs ...... douglas@lusfiber.net See y'all at the reunion.

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Just heard from a friend of mine in Rhode Island that John Finn has passed. A few months ago four of us road our motorcycles down to his "ranch" for an interview that was to be printed in the Hannah News. Once the conversation turned to motorcycles, the interview was lost for Johns anecdotes of passed bikes that he had owned over the years. He certainly could spin a yarn! I'll miss him but I know that he lead an incredible life due to the attack on Pearl Harbor, and his actions on that day. Fair winds, John.

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XO, yrs ago my Grandmother kept the family Bible that had a lot of lined pages in the front. She kept a history of birthdays in it, most people were born at home back then and that was the only record. It didn't have times in it but later yrs when they needed a birth certificate they could take the Bible to the Court House and they would give them a birth certificate by it. I don't think they really needed one before FDR. You knew a true hero, Theres not many WWII people around anymore much less with the Medal of Honor.....Charlie

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XO, can you imagine all he's seen in all those yrs, My Dad was born in 1916 and I could listen for days of him telling me of his early life in Texas growing up, and serving in the Army in WWII, You can't read that stuff in history books, I used to watch Victory at Sea as a boy, when I when I joined the Navy the recruiter tried to talk me into being an airdale, I told him I didn't want to be on a bird farm, I wanted to be on a battle ship and signed up to be a snipe, I ended up on one anyway, but was happy with the Hanna.....Charlie

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John Finn was not a pilot. On Pearl Harbor Day, he was an Aviation Ordnance Chief (AOC was the abbreviation in those days.) He was an E-7. Later he was promoted to commissioned status and he retired as a lieutenant. John dropped out of high school at age 14 and waited three years to join the Navy at age 17 in 1926. He had always loved guns, and joined to become a gunner's mate. He was not lined up to be a gunner's mate, so in 1926 when they created the aviation ordnance rate, he was offered a chance to go into that, and he did. He also loved motorcycles. One of my favorite pictures is of him with wife Alice aboard a BMW motorcycle they owned in the 1930s.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft.eng.rm.
Date: 27 May 2010
Time: 16:39

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charlie, i would think messeage from xo. i think john finn was a pilot. do not know, but i know he was one heck of a man. cutting yard today coco still trying to eat whells off of lawnmower latter ken.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng.rm.
Date: 27 May 2010
Time: 15:59

Comments

XO know he will be missed. when you see them tell them another sailer is thinking of him and them.ken

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Just got word through aviation ordnance circles on the web that John Finn died this morning (May 27) in San Diego. He had been moved about ten days ago from his ranch to the Chula Vista Veterans Center. At the time he was moved, he could no longer do anything for himself. John lived to be 100 years ten months and four days of age if you calculate from the date the Navy had for his birthdate: July 23, 1909. John told me more than once that his Mother had told him that he was actually born on July 24 at about 7 AM. And John always said, "And she told me she knew for sure, because she was there." I am glad that the last time I saw John, on his ranch two days after his 100th birthday party, he was active, alert, in good spirits, and talkative as usual. With John's death, there is no longer a living Medal of Honor recipient who was decorated for actions on December 7, 1941, Pearl Harbor Day. Sure glad I got acquainted with John.

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Everyone down here is holding their breath to see if that oil rig is going to stop up. I like that Coast Guard Admiral, He's pretty sharp, I had to laugh watching him, his mustash ain't far from looking like Hitlers. Our Pres. is going to Chicago instead of Arlington to place the reef on the Unknown Soldier. I don't think that guy knows what his job is. 1200 NG on the border is a spit in the ocean, that National park that they won't let vehicles in is a joke. we can't win a war in our own country. I better get off my soap box, I may have OldSalt and the XO on my butt talking Politics......Charlie

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Don, I haven't heard anything about Douglas in yrs, I don't really know who builds AC, Grumman owns our shipyard in Pascagula. Ingalls used to own it when they built nuke subs. I haven't heard of them building anything but those FFG's and Pirate Busters in a while. I never here about what's going on out there until they launch something and it's in the news......Charlie

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Ken, I pulled field day today, washing cloths, dishes, cleaning the fridge and running old left-overs down the disposale and things like that, I don't have a mess cook to do if for me. Cujo and I have also been watching movies, eating and sleeping a lot today. I just woke up a little while ago and pulling mid watch........Charlie

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Jim, I know It's going to be a disapointment to the crew that you can't make the reunion, I wish I could go myself. I don't like DC but there are a lot of place's in Va I wish I had gone while I was up there. I like Civil War History, I still think we won the Civil War and it's a big cover-up by the Feds. The Mexicans are still trying to claim Texas but I know we won that one......Charlie

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heck don, another smipe. you were about the last before she was taking apart. come back anytime. latter ken

Name: Don Purney
Email_Address: DJPurney@comcast.net
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1970-1974
Division_Squadron_Detachment: M division
Date: 26 May 2010
Time: 19:17

Comments

Nothing like being a month late but here's my two cents anyway. Just adding to a posting from a month ago (April 26) by Dennis Flynn about Skyhawks (A4's) Skyraiders (A1's or AD's) and Skywarriors (A3's). All three were built by Douglas, not Grumman. All three were bombers, A is for attack.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 26 May 2010
Time: 18:51

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charlie, are you ok. you stop the posting. maybe cujo is sick. let me know? this web. will not be able to survive with just you and me posting. be like a fog in the flashlight beam. latter ken.

Name: Jim Winn #170
Email_Address: Jwinnfsm@aol.com
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1959-1962
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V-6 and Vf-211
Date: 25 May 2010
Time: 20:10

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Dennis, Pete and all the rest of you going to Wash DC for the Reunion --- I hope that all of you have a great time. I really wanted to go to this reunion and had planned on it but sometimes things don't work out as we would like them to, so I had to cancel my reservations. I explained the circumstances to Dennis as to why I couldn't be there. I'll try to be in better shape in 2012. Wishing all of you the very best! Jim

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XO, A guy from WLOX the tv station here where Toni once worked is going to burn me 3 DVDs from a VHS I got from amazo, I have called all over and no one could do it. It is rare and I could only get a used copy in VG condition. I'm going to send a copy to Toni, She was born and raised on the banks of the Ms river, It's an early flick wick with Tommy Lee Jones and his daughter going up the Ms in a little skiff, It is an adventure flick. The guy dosen't know Toni he came there after her but people still know her. She leaves an impression where ever she go's.....Charlie

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Ken, I think there are a few rivers named Hondo, I don't know what the word means but they have a Rio Hondo in Panama, coke machines didn't work out to good around us boys' they were the type you slid the bottle out of the rack to get one after you put your money in. We would pop the cap and drink it through a straw if it was out doors in front of a closed gas station. I never had a pellet gun. I went from a Red Ryder BB gun when real young to a 20 Ga or the 22, kids learned gun safety from their Dads, we used to sneak a little Price Albert from our Dads and smoke, No way I could handle that bull durm in the little sack with the tag, It turned me green like I was seasick.....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng.rm
Date: 25 May 2010
Time: 14:42

Comments

charlie, you are right coke was 5 in machine dad mom had 3 acres vevy few houses lot of open land. they gave me a benjamin 177 cal.pump when i was10 hunted birds till night after i got home from school. very simple life not much money,but enjoyed life. mom's dad had 600 acres on hondo creek still in family today. ken

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Ken, it makes me glad I'm elder, We lived in some good yrs, my 1st date I had to pick her up to take her to the move house on a Fergson tractor, I was about 14, She was all decked out, skirt pettycoats and all. I thought her Dad was going to bust a gut laughing, She crawled aboard and proped her butt on the fender, I washed it just for the date. Dad gave me a dollar, 10 cents each to get in, 6 for cokes, 10 for popcorn and she even let me put my arm around her and give her a kiss, our farm was about 5 miles away and tractors aren't fast, I remember driveing home, every star in Texas was shineing and I was in love, It didn't take much to please us back then. Her parents moved somewhere and took her with them...Charlie

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Pete, have you watched the movie "The Astronaught Farmer" I liked it. I always think of you In those kind of movies. I pictured Dennis and Jim helping you build it and shooting your butt into orbit.....Charlie

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charlie, all because some ceo. or big shots whated to take short cuts so they could put more in their pockets. the people will have to foot the bill and live with the damage done.ken

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Ken, under sea it is huge, If we get some bad tropical storms or a hurricane that crap is comming ashore, every one here knows it, what go's to the Gulf Stream is going to coat the Fla Keys and Cuba, Wildlife will never be the same for decades. I better shut up before I pop a relief valve......Charlie

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Ken, I guess this is my PO'd at civilians week, This oil rig has me PO'd because of one stuiped stacked on more trying to take short cuts. every politician want's a photo op and tell them what to do. they probly have an Aid to plug their laptop in to charge because they don't know how. We have been lucky that the winds have blown it back to La. that's on the surface....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng rm.
Date: 25 May 2010
Time: 08:31

Comments

charlie, you hit nail on head seems like politicians should be smart enought to figure this out. have a good day. ken.

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Ken, we haven't won a war since WWII, Politicians hold us back. why enter a champion horse in a race if your going to pull the reins back, they stoped free fire zones, and put ROE in. I'm not waiting for that sucker to shoot at me 1st. Pete was on radar and didn't have that option. I got so sick of hearing I see a light at the end of the tunnel by Johnson. Look at Vietnam today, Iraq and Afganistan will end up the same as soon as we leave, They won't let us protect our own borders.......Charlie

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Pete, the Marines are a tough outfit. they don't have a reverse gear. They have the toughests bootcamp of all. when I was in Nan they were more up north by the DMZ. I was down in the delta. They delt more with NVNR where we had VC. They had a tough chopper,it was an old radial engine one, I only flew up there once that I can remember to a firebase. we brought mail that they sent out to other firebases also and brought back mail they were sending out. The area was to hot for there regular supply AC. I think SAMS kept them away but we flew below radar.....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 24 May 2010
Time: 20:27

Comments

pete, marines, navy army air force. have gave me and mine freedom but since war world 1&2 plus korea ya'll had it tought but the job was done. ken

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Darn Pete, as high teck as those birds are it would seem like someone would have thought to put defrosters in them, I was wondering about the gloves because I couldn't even even change the channels on my TV if I had to ware them. I bet your Air Boss took his off when no one was looking......Charlie

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Ken, I saw a lot of "hard charging young Marines" this past weekend. They have our back...! Pete

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 24 May 2010
Time: 19:35

Comments

one thing i have got to say people like charlie, dennis, pete, thats their. that's what this country needs. but i gruess we will get it done. even if we are all gone. hope not. ken

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Thanks Tico Mac, Someones got to hold Muster around here or they turn into slackers. Those WO Chopper Pilots used to scare the Hell out of me when I was in the Army, they tried to to chop the tops out of the trees in Nam. You have to have pucker power as Pete calls it to ride with them. I think a lot of them went into Law Enforcement after the war.....Charlie

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Ken, those old timers are great to talk to, I had the honor of talking to a USS Indanaplos survivor at the Bonham VA in Tx. In Paris Tx I took our dog catcher for granted until my Dad told me he was a MP guard when they loaded the bomb on the Enola Gay. I'm sure the have passed by now. You never know when you run across someone like them.....Charlie

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Charlie, second part. Engine bleed air was used for temperature control...warming /cooling. TINS tale, taking off from Cubi (hot,humid air) once the cockpit filled with fog. Hey, going IFR in the cockpit is a pain! Could not see s***. Just pulled the stick back to where I though it should be and did not touch the rudders. Got airborne,.gear up, flaps up...flew by brail until the fog cleared!Pete

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Charlie, the G-Suit was to keep blood from pooling in the abdominal and leg areas while under G load. Proportial air pressure would be applied. Nomex gloves are just that, a glove. I liked to feel the stick and normally discarded the gloves after the Cat Shot while in-flight. Don't let the Air Boss see you tho on the trap!

Name: Dahl "Mac" McChristian
Email_Address: DelMarC3Corvettes@Comcast.net
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1961 - 1964
Division_Squadron_Detachment: M - Supply PO
Date: 24 May 2010
Time: 17:38

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Reading the past post. To our Ship Mate that his Son , after Basic Training selected the Navy Corpsman Rate, Proud you must be. I survived a stroke in 2009. My Medical Doctor/Surgeon Served in the Navy for twelve years as a Corpsman.

"Army Warrant Officer Helicopter Pilots"

I Signed on with U.S. Customs Office Of investigations June 1970. Our Customs Pilots were prior Military and after 1975 several fix wing and Army Warrant Officer Helicopter Pilots were selected for a new Aviation and Marine Division of U.S. Customs. Charlie glade to read your post and find that you are keeping things in order. Good Health to All !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tico Mac USC/SA

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 24 May 2010
Time: 17:13

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charlie, don't you know the retired navy senior cheif then LT. jg was a best they could get. never asked him his job in navy. should have. have a good night, ken

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng rm.
Date: 24 May 2010
Time: 15:40

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charlie, glad to here you might be going for the better. read dennis flynn post on forum, about what charles plumb said makes you think. by the way was having my cheifs car oil change talked with a retired navy he was about 85 said he was about to retired senior cheif and navy told him to reup would send him too school to refine him he would come out lt. jg. he did. he said their was about 40 of them send them to guam. he is retired all the way now. enjoyed talking with him latter ken.

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Pete, are Pilots gloves part of their G-suit , I would think you had heaters in AC.....Charlie

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Ken, the VA was just a waste of time, I didn't ask for the appointment he just sent me a letter to be there, I think he dose that to keep his job to show he has a certain anount of patients, actualy my primary care Dr gave me some non-drug pain pills and my legs are stronger because I can walk further and get more exercise. I sleep better because I don't wake up in pain. Itold him I didn't want to go to pain management where they give you hard stuff........Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 24 May 2010
Time: 10:01

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chaelie, how did the va.go?give me a shout for uudate. latter ken

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Pete. I was interested in your rank not paycheck, no wonder your wife lets you go on walk-about, She can beat you to the mail box. It's time for me to crash and burn, I've got to go to my nurlogest at the VA tomarrow AM. He's am Idiot with a degee and says I don't have the right voltage going to my legs, I have told him I have told him what the problem is, but Drs think they know more about you than you do, I have pinched nerves in my back and neck.....Charlie

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Peter K, I think being a little crazy Is part of the physical to get in the Navy. who else would want to bob around in the middle of the ocean during a storm like a cork and can't walk back to shore if the darn thing sinks. I come from an Army family and my Dad staid sea sick all the way to Omaha Beach on a troop ship. I think Pilots and airdales are certifiable .....Charlie

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Dennis, I went to Navy, Army and Seabee boot camps. I I left the Hanna I was PO 2 and knew the game, Army bootcamp was a new experiance to me but I the mental part was out, I asked Officers if they had a light, They were 2nd Lt's and it shocked them also, recuits didn't sapose to do that. When I went in the Bee's it was about the same thing except they read my experiance and at my age then they new I wasn't a new kid off the block...Charlie

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Pete, I never seen many Marines or SeaBees in full dress uniform. We usely look like trees walking around. The Army knew what Marines were in Nam but when they saw the crow on my hat they didn't know what I was. they thought I was some kind of Officer and sent me to the head of line at the chow tent. I had them salute me and I would salute them back it didn't take long for me to get me to get tired of that crap. I was glad to get back to my detachment....Charlie

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Charlie, I retired from the Reserves in July '94 as a CDR with 26 years (8 Active Duty). After 2006, now receiving the check once a month! Thank you! Pete

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Dennis, I was run around one dept to another looking for something that didn't exsist, when Mills , my boss pulled it the 2nd time I went to the the EM club and came back full of beer, I told him they told me it was at the club, He didn't pull it on me anymore.....Charlie

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Charlie, Ken, et al. Just got back from the Skyhawk Association Board of Directors meet this weekend. It was held in conjunction with the Marine Skyhawker's Reunion at Ft. Worth, Tx. The Marine Corps Aviation Associaton get together was also there. Heard an outstanding brief yesterday on the MAG-40 ops in Afganistan over the last year in support of the surge of Marine Ops in-country. Was the token Navy guy amongst a lot of Marine A-4 guys last night at dinner. Good fun! XO, president of the Skyhawk Association is Bob Hickerson. He was a Marine with CAG staff on the Hannah in '72. Charlie, came home wearing a gold reunion cap and red shirt. Beth told me I looked like a Marine!OohYa!Pete

Name: Peter Kramer
Email_Address: prkramer1212@hotmail.com
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: Visitor
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V-2 Cats
Date: 23 May 2010
Time: 17:33

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Charlie my brother was on the Hanna when you were. He was in V-2 Cats, he was a bridle runner. That was one of his jobs on the Hanna, getting the bridle from the boon. My kids saw his photo in the 59 cruise book, (he was on the boon) the that confirmed the name they gave him, " Crazy Uncle Raymond".

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Charlie & Ken, every job on a Navy ship has ways of messing with any new guy be it a new recruit or a Jr. Division Officer. When in the E Div I was sent with another new guy to find the "Golden Rivet" put in when the ships keel was laid, When I was a airdale we used to send guys out to get a bucket of "Prop Wash" Tried that on a two striper and didn't see him for several days. When the Chief caught up with him ha asked where he had been. The guy said "you told me not to come back till I found it" We didn't know he had been a 2nd. class that had been busted and knew the ropes. Dennis

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charlie, never will forget the cheif gave me a container of da water. he told me where to take it.did find it . really thought going to get butt wip. but i guess that made their day. i was a hot head but cool down. knew i was out number. good old days.

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Ken, I came aboard as a FA, and got assigned to 02N2, my boss gave me a list of practical factors to get sighed off and I had to run all over the ship to different enginering depts to get them signed, FNs' with the little ships screw above them had been to "A school". I think making FN I had to take a little simple test but a nod from the Chiefs head I took mine early. that was just a shipboard thing to that rank. He had me study the MM 3&2 like a Bible, There were very few questions about 02N2 on the 3rd class test. It wasn't easy learning the plant and studying it and him teaching me chess at the same time. I had more crammed in my pea sized brain at one time than ever before. I trusted him and pushed myself and it paid off like a slot machine. I might have been the youngest 2nd class aboard, I wasn't old enough to drink in home port but was in charge of #1 02 plant. I couldn't bar hop with the guys that worked for me. I looked young anyway.

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carl, still kicking. my mind has lost some, what is r div. latter ken.

Name: carl d breitweiser
Email_Address: danrdgrs@ gmail.com
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1957-1961
Division_Squadron_Detachment: r division
Date: 23 May 2010
Time: 15:28

Comments

its been a long time hope there are some old timers still alive

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 23 May 2010
Time: 15:20

Comments

charlie, i was on bottom of totem pole at fireman mm. the cheif and fist class had done gave me 3rd class on my DD 214. i did the duties of 3rd.but name that starter with s came up. so went to s div. the test was being giving. told chief need to take test knew it like back of hand. never got releived . was dumping food off of trays.wnen test was taking. could not leave my station oh well thats the breaks. ken

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Dennis, I pulled Sgt of the Guard at the Seabee base and posted centurys out and had a jeep to run around and check on them. I posted one at the Wave Barracks that sapose to stand guard to keep them secure, I came back on patrol in a couple hrs and couldn't find him, I went in and ask the CQ a 3rd class wave if she knew what happen to him. She said 2nd floor, I went up there and couldn't keep a straight face to chew his butt. I made him get back on post and told the CQ why do you think they pull guard duty here, She just shruged her shoulders and said I guess he had something to guard on the 2nd floor. The life of a Sailor......Charlie

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Dennis, I had to ride the Hanna up there, We had access to the gals car anyway, We could call our boss and get back to back 96s' and then have to take the ferry ride to sign in and out to make sure we were in the same country. The sandcrabs didn't need us under there feet and there was no such thing as sleep with all the chiping hammers going 24/7. I think the nurses were a guarded secret or the house mothers would have caught on.....Charlie

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Thanks XO, I'm not the only one that wondered. Us snipes just learned little by little about the airdale things went we just ask someone. I remember when they started drawing hazardus duty pay, I think $50 a mo. they deserverd it, I felt safe with the armor deck between me and them. XO, what Rank did you and Pete retire at if I might ask. My son brought a water mellon in, I really like them.....Charlie

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Charlie, The time we were in Bremerton while you were aboard was from March 1961 through Feb 1962 which put us there during the Rainy season which just means it rained more than usual. Did you ever go over to Seattle and visit the Nursing School dorms in the eveni9ngs ? Just park outside and place a case of beer on the trunk and toot the horn. They would bail out the windows on the ground floor to avoid the House Mother and curfew and go party with us. Great place. Jim and I remember parking aircraft up on the bow and driving ON the roundover and ramps while towing aircraft up there, not all of our driver's would do it or drive between the running props and the tails of the AD's when starting them for a launch with only a couple of inches to spare. I guess we were brain dead. Dennis

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Charlie - the things that stick out past the bow cats - they are bridle arrestors. They stop the catapult hookup bridles from going over the bow when a plane is launched. Somewhere way back they stopped using catapult bridles and switched to the nose tow, in which the catapult shuttle grabbed onto the nose gear rather than hooking to the aircraft by means of a cable bridle.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div.aft. eng. rm.
Date: 23 May 2010
Time: 09:46

Comments

charlie, what where them 2 things sticking out on bow. have wonder that myself. ken

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I always wondered what those 2 things were that stuck out off the bow of the flight deck in front of the cats of the Hanna, I never ask anyone. the track of the cats didn't go down them.......Charlie

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Dennis will remember what yr we were in the yards, Enlisted had to wear Sailor suits because we couldn't keep civies aboard, Shrader and me were walking down that main street and I saw a couple gals in a 55 Chev and stuck my thumb out like I was hitch hiking ,they went around the block and came back and ask us where we were going. I said with you I hope, she said get in. They were telephone operators and had a apt in Renton. We wasn't in Seattle 30 mins and stuck gold, We had a home. That Sailor suit is a guys best friend, We bought some civees and they wore ours some times. Women like to keep your white hats and neckerchiefs. It was a pain to break in a white hat and roll neckerchiefs......Charlie

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Tim, It is very beautiful, I had to wear a field jacket a lot in the summer. It sure rains a lot. Rubarb pie, I don't see how they can eat it. Mt st helen blew it's top way after I was there. The drive up Mt Raineer is great. The Hanna went to the yard in Bremerton once for a major overhaul, plenty of liberty, We kept the ferry to Seatte full of Sailors full, It was our liberty lauch.....Charlie

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Tim, you are from Pete's State, I married a gal from Whidby, I remember him talking about Vernon, she had kin there, she was mean as a one-eyed cotton mouth. they people up there are fun but a little wierd to me. her cousin had a little creek runing though he property, it was shallow and I was going to jump in and get us one for supper,she wouldn't let me and said I would go to jail, To me if a fish is on my property he's mine....Charlie

Name: Tim Mullen
Email_Address: timcathy_mul@hotmail.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 64-66
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V-2 AG
Date: 22 May 2010
Time: 19:13

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For all who read the quarterdeck. My comment to Mike Brown, "outstanding place in Pacific Northwest", that place has to have: fresh water lake, ocean, mountains, and big, big, trees, all within a half hour drive.

Name: Tim Mullen
Email_Address: timcathy_mul@hotmail.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 64-66
Division_Squadron_Detachment: v-2 AG
Date: 22 May 2010
Time: 19:09

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Mike, Just looked you up in roster. You is new member. Welcome aboard. I live in Shelton, WA. Got map of Westlake, OR. Looks like you live in an outstanding Pacific Northwest area, too. I will be sending you an email with more on Adak. You going to make the reunion in DC? I am on the board so get an advance list of attendees. Last was as of end of April. Your name wasn't on it.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 22 May 2010
Time: 19:01

Comments

charlie,tim,mike. ya'll hit the nail on head .son, wes.was on P3 1986-1990 squadron p46 was AD on turbo props, T54,s, tim thank's for web. site very interesting. ken charlie he said they did drop the thing you said they drop.

Name: Mike Brown
Email_Address: mikealanbrown@gmail.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 68/69
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V1 Crash locker
Date: 22 May 2010
Time: 18:26

Comments

Yes i was stationed on adak may 67-nov67

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal. net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm
Date: 22 May 2010
Time: 18:05

Comments

you are right charlie,thanks tim, have not heard from son he might be in vegas. i think he said P3s will get info. when he calls. think. he was in the fuel cell part, not sure. looks like a big plane. ken.

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Thanks Tim, I knew the P-3 had a lot of electronics but had no idea that much but the ones I saw was in about 73, thats a good site I book marked it. I bet it will be very interesting to Ken to see what his son is in.....Charlie

Name: Tim Mullen
Email_Address: timcathy_mul@hotmail.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 64-66 Life member 200
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V2 AG
Date: 22 May 2010
Time: 16:03

Comments

Charlie, When you open the site for P-3 info, on the right side are links to history, crew, pictures, etc. My admin officer that use to work for where I work now was a Senior Chief when he retired from P-3 squadrons. He said he loved the flying, and the squadron was deployed everywhere, stateside and overseas.

Name: Tim Mullen
Email_Address: timcathy_mul@hotmail.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 64-66
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V2 AG
Date: 22 May 2010
Time: 15:55

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Charlie, Go to this website and you can read up on the P-3 Orion:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/p-3.htm

Name: Tim Mullen
Email_Address: timcathy_mul@hotmail.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 64-66
Division_Squadron_Detachment: v2 ag
Date: 22 May 2010
Time: 15:50

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Mike Brown, When were you stationed at Adak? I did my last tour of duty there 89-91, retired Jan92.

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Mike, I think you hit the nail on the head. I don't know much about them but was told they were very dependable....Charlie

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OK yes the P3 . When i was stationed on adak there was a squadron of P3s there

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XO, I got my report back from Toni, She said the Marine speaker was outstanding, She had a real good time, She was tired and going to kick back, she go's a hundred miles an hr all day even if shes sitting her mind is going that fast. I used to tell her don't strip any gears in your head. she would tell me quit reading my mind, we pretty well had each other figured out after a while.....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 21 May 2010
Time: 18:29

Comments

charlie, he was a mech. on it, know he went to school. was in 3 years. when he calls will find out. ken

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Ken, I think we have the AC figured out and don't know what to call it. I belive the bouys they droped were a sonar picket line they would monitor. I saw one that was about 2 1/2 ft long, I have no idea how it worked but was salt water activated. It had to anchor itself to the bottom to keep from drifting off. I wouldn't be asking your son a lot of questions about electronics. I'm sure he has at least a secret clearance, If he has been with them a while it could go all the way up to crypto depending on his job and need to know...Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 21 May 2010
Time: 17:39

Comments

charlie,mike, got a call in to son wes, no reply yet.the ac was long range, had its own crew. mech. and all. they might go to japan or any place else, be gone for sometime. the way he said had a lot of electronics.to it. ken

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Mike, you are right about PBRs , I get all the designations messed up there are so many of them. when I was in Nam we flew chopper support support for them a few times, they had larger steel ones and a faster fiberglass swift boat, they had a repair ship at the mouth of the Sigon river. I think the crew was mostly gunners mates and Boatswains. I never been aboard one.....Charlie

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Mike, I probly have the wrong designation, it was a 4 engine turboprop, that had a long extention that stuck out behind it's tail with electronics in it, It had long range by shuting two engines off I think and feather 2 down. I know what a PBY like Petes Dad flew is. Something makes me think P3 orio after thinking about it. guys would get hops to go on leave back to the states on them, I think they would go to Fla from PR if not on a mission. It was hard to get a hop because they could only take a couple guys.......Charlie

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Charlie i think you are talking about the sea plane PBY, as pbr is the designation for Patrol Boat River. We had PBYs on midway island, and it took a long time to get airborne

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Ken, I think you are talking about a PBR. I seen some in Puerto Rico on the airfield. They drop listening bouys for subs, I went over there to talk the parachute riggers out of a life raft. they have a shelf life to be used in AC but are still good. Our Battalion Dr. bought a sailboat and I would go over there and drag him all kinds of stuff back, Flares, Charts, ect, he was going to sail it back to the States. He was my scuba diveing buddy and wanted me to sail back with him but I was biteing at the bit to get back to my wife and kids......Charlie

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XO, last New Yrs day she had at anchor and there were barely enough people show up to get it on line. Her head was hurting also. The weather man didn't show so she had to cover, She knows nothing about weather, she said theres some big clouds over here heading in our direction it's bound to do something, then her clicker didn't work. She was mad then but laughing about it when she called me. She said I sure looked like a dumb blond. She is dependable......Charlie

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XO, Toni never toots her horn about her resume, I learned a lot about her going to KZTVaction10news and then meet the team and clicked on her. the picture dosen't give her justice. I didn't know she was an inturn for Trent Lott when he was speaker of the house. It suprised me....Charlie

Name: Tom Wimberly
Email_Address: twimbo@aol.com
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1970-72
Division_Squadron_Detachment: XO of the ship
Date: 20 May 2010
Time: 22:37

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For Charlie. Salvation Army Banquet report. I had been scheduled to have the County Sheriff and one of the City Councilmen sit at my table. Yesterday a tax appraisal district board meeting was scheduled for tonight, so the Councilman and her husband cancelled out. I filled the spots with Toni and the friend she brought, the meteorologist at Channel 10. It was a great meal and a great program, and I think Toni enjoyed it. I introduced her to everyone I could. For Charlie's friends on the site: when Charlie says Toni is nice looking, it's an understatement.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbc global.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm..
Date: 20 May 2010
Time: 19:58

Comments

charlie, they were at the pelecon bar he was in navy but never been on ship. he was in a plane looking for subs.tell tony when i find out the time and day will let you know. never know, have a good night ken.

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Ken, I made her stop at Hooters once after taking me to a eye exam, I liked to fell out of the seat checking the gals out, She laughed and said your not as blind as I thought you were, I ask her how many were real, she said how the heck would she know, She has natural beauty......Charlie

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Ken, I never was into matchmaking, I wanted to keep all the gals myself. The male spelling of Toni is Tony, My Toni is a doll, She gets guys hiting on her all the time. Not much when I'm around, they think I'm her Dad. She treats me like I am, I have to fight her to pay if we go somewhere's. She is a blast to be around, Just a down to earth Ms girl..........Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: .
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 20 May 2010
Time: 17:53

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charlie, my son is 45 and not gay. still looking. i do not know if you heard about scott fruend drowing in cayon lake. that was their freind. but they had a fishing toun. at cc. got finish went to bar got in jail. maybe toni. never know his name is wesley sureddin. they had got to go to court very close. ken. match making is not good. but we try.ken

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 20 May 2010
Time: 16:52

Comments

charlie, going to send you 2 emails. the first i new i was right. the second is the way it should be ken.

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Ken, they had smoking rooms in the past on seperate floors. In the past they had to furnish them because they are your legal residence and it isn't against the law to smoke at home. common areas and floors you couldn't smoke. the rooms have a patio door and small balcony. we didn't have them at the old one....Charlie

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XO, Toni just called me, She just got home and getting ready to go to the Banquet......Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 20 May 2010
Time: 11:19

Comments

charlie, went on line and pulled up afrm. hey that thing is first class.you going to be getting in when they open the doors. hope it works out for you. no smoking in rooms. do you smoke?i quit about 7 yrs. ago.later ken.

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Dennis, I cracked up about the biker bar e-mail you sent me. I'm going to try to print some large framing size pix from it and hang a couple in the Naval Home, Mine looks like the blue one but has a basket on the back. I can walk but not real far like most people. It will go 40 miles at 6mph, I stick with sidewalks to keep from getting killed. I need Jim and you to soup it up. It will be the bad dude on the block....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m.div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 19 May 2010
Time: 19:44

Comments

charlie, 6 dollar is good, if it goes well. the time here is central too, maybe i lost track. oh well it dose happen sometimes. they all got mad cow disease, but i guess we love it. have a good night. ken.

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Ken, one guy kept a gal for 3 days, you have to pay $6 a meal for them, we bring them down to the club, dance and party, Jenny the Redhead loved it, she would show up every friday because we had shrimp. Viagra was every where, If you ran out barrow some from your buddy......Charlie

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Ken, I'm not sure where Hanna's computer is, I'm on Centeral Standard time, Ky is a good ways from here. Ken, the Naval Home is great, your with retired Military people, we sneak females in for the night all the time, they are authorized until 22:00 you sapose to have them leave, security don't really care as long as you don't bring one in with "Mad Cow Disease" and they have to toss her out.....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 19 May 2010
Time: 17:57

Comments

charlie, thats good my cheifs brother is in sennora kentucky, not to far from time change. you can even pinch her on butt. hope eveything comes in for you, ken. not felling sorry for you. you have been their and done it. ken

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Ken, I'm in Biloxi Ms, the new Naval Home is about 5 miles from where I live now but across the city limit line to Gulfport Ms, now it is called AFRH-G, you can check it out at AFRH.gov, The AFRH-W is the Soldiers Home in DC, It shows the rooms and some things about it.....Charlie

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XO, I just talked to her, she just came in from her jogging, she is tickled to death to get her own personal invatation, she said their maybe other reporters there but hers was personel. I don't know what they all talk about at the tv station. she likes her job better now that she's got a little time in grade.....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m. div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 19 May 2010
Time: 17:00

Comments

charlie, sounds good about naval housing. when and if you or them get it done, let me know cheif and ken will come visit. i thought you where around lousianna. but your time is calf. maybe its home port of hanna.later ken.

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Charlie, I talked to Toni yesterday. She is coming to the Salvation Army Banquet tomorrow night. Will let you know how it turns out.

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Ken, Cujo has been sunbathing on the patio most the day on guard duty, I "steamed cleaned" my carpets today. I called the Naval Home to see when I might get asigned a room, I should get my packet in June to update paperwork. The new one should be done and all moved in by Nov....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958 1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 19 May 2010
Time: 10:14

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charlie, how's cujo doing? cutting the back yard coco is trying to bite wheels off of lawn mower. later ken

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Pete, I wouldn't go in for that dartboard throwing points thing, I would have to tell the LSO at least I got your AC back, what are you griping about.....Charlie

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Ya'know Charlie, trapping on the Hannah one wire was an automatic No-Grade Pass from the LSO...A NO-NO!Just thinking, Jim and Dennis's suped up tractor with a hook would have had to catch the numbero uno as a last resort! Leads one to great speculation. Just throwing out thoughts to the crew :) Pete

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Dennis, I remember about your and Jims hotrod tugs, you guys should have put a tailhook on it and you could have joined the tailhook club. To bad you couldn't take it on liberty.......Charlie

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XO, Toni called, She was asleep by 20:30, she get's up so early in the AM. She said she called you but there wasn't an answer. I don't know when. She wants to go to it. The best time to call is between 13:00 and 17:00, She will try to call and you try to call her and and hopefully you two will connect......Charlie

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XO, her c-phone number is the same as always, she couldn't live without it. She shuts it off when she dosen't want to be bugged. mostly when she wants a break for a while. The TV station may want to send who they want. and not tell her. I want her to know you invited her personaly........Charlie

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XO, I will call her, She's usely on the road to work at 04:30 to anchor the news at 06:00 and once again in the afternoon, The TV station I called her and got her voice recorder also. she usely calls me back at her 1st chance. She could be in the tub or out on liberty. She puts a lot of personal time into benifit drives........Charlie

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Charlie: Tell Toni I am trying to get in touch with her. Left message on her cell (number from last September) and at Channel 10 TV. I want her to attend the annual banquet of the Salvation Army which is Thursday night May 20. I know that channel 10 was invited to send people, but if someone other than she is going, she has an invitation for herself and date to attend as my guests. Steak and lobster dinner. Tell her to phone me; I'm in the phone book.

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Charlie, Talking about governors. Jim Winn drove one of our small NC-1-A Jeeps (the ones that looked like a three wheeler) We had to do a valve grind on it, Jim talked the machine shop into milling the head, they ran on 145 octane gas, We built headers and removed the governor. Jim started at the fwd end of the flight deck and was traveling about 65 plus when he cleared the island, took the rest of the flight deck to stop bouncing across the arresting gear cables. He stopped about 30 feet from going over the fantail while we were steaming about 20 knots at sea. Got his butt chewed royal by the XO but it was worth it. A wild man in his day. Dennis

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Ken, that was BC, (before charlie). Everything depended on those pumps, cooling water for all the equipment, and the boilers, I remember a dept called steam heat, I think they were talking about the fr rms....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 15 May 2010
Time: 14:57

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charlie, i think both of us have got to shut up. theirs no other posts. will wait 24 hrs. and see what happens.have a good night, ken

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charlie,do you remeber formosa straights? we were on patrol. no shots had been fired. but if a daisy bb would have hit the ship.she was ready to answer back. if genneral quarter sounded i had to go to bottom of eng. rm. and man #6 firepump. ken

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I saw a place on our beach on cnn, It's about 1/4 mile from my apt. No bikinis at all. I see where weather has gone crazy everywhere. At least I'm getting a free van wash, I saw yesterday where a seagul made a lazer guided strike on the hood. CuJo has been sleepimg, she got a workout with Jenny's pit bull. It never could catch her, She said Cujo would jump in the air over it and run around it so fast it never knew where she was at. they didn't bite hard just doggie play.....Charlie

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Ken,our machines were higher amps, I think 225. I used a machine that had a runaway gov once and shut it down. Military guys were always jacking with govs on vehicles to get more preformance just like the fireroom and their safety pressure popoff valves. It's raining here and looks like it will be for a week....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div.aft. eng. rm.
Date: 15 May 2010
Time: 05:59

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charlie, i had loned it out i had gov. set at right rpms it had oil. he said he did not override gov. the rod broke under piston, took cam shaft and broke block. guess it was tired and wanted some rest. have a good day.it had a cast iron block a old 10 hp.kohler. latter ken.

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Ken, I just about do.I slept through Annapolis and woke up, the VA sent me some pain pilld for my neck and back, non-dope but seem to help a lot. How the heck did he put a hole in the block of your welder, Lincons are the best,We had more Hobarts in the Bee's, they could get them cheaper but were good. It's sure quiet around here without CuJo, Jenny has a part pit pup, and another dog, Chuck said Cujo was haveing fun with them,I sure wish I had a keyboard to match my monitor.....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbc global.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 14 May 2010
Time: 18:38

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charlie, hech you got a indoor movie house. i am working on 1965 lincoln 150 amp.arc. welder. it was ok. lend it out. came back with a hole in cast iron block. now i will start fixing it, need something to do anyway. latter ken

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Ken, It's for my computer, my tv is really big. my Son gave it to me that someone left in a apt. probly owed for it and hauld butt. to watch a football game you think your part of the team. It's one of those thin ones that's about 4 ft wide. It has been a lot dryer here than normal for several yrs. Ken I've always been a sucker for redheds, I was blonde myself, Tonis blond hair comes out of a bottle, She's really a brunett but I don't sapose to tell anybody....Charlie

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Pete, XO, I bought the DVD Annapolis I'm going to watch tonight. I don't hardly watch the channels any more the just PO me and I'm sick of this off shore well BS. I called Toni and she's home sick, she always is, she's like an alligator in New Mexico. She likes her job but only runs 2 miles a day and dosen't have the drive, I told her to get a B-12 shot and it seam to be a good idea to her. I didn't have the heart to tell her she's not 18 anymore. I'm fixing up another little box to send her. It really dosen't take much to please her....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft.eng.rm.
Date: 14 May 2010
Time: 16:49

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charlie, what is the monitor for? tv. hey you know how to check if it is a true redhead, ha ha. just finish up with my projects. had 3.25 worth of rain. we really needed it. later ken

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I bought me a 24" monitor this AM, it sure makes a difference. Chuck my youngest Son is taking CuJo with him down to Pascagula with him and stay the night with my old girlfriend. If he lets something happen to CuJo I will had a dead Son. I know it sounds wierd but it's not. He's going to give her pool a shock treatment. I told him to toss her in and she would come out blond, she's a redhead, a real one.....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 14 May 2010
Time: 06:40

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charlie, getting some needed rain this am. coco my lab is under my feet. were i go she goes. have a good day,later ken

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Ken, I left some words out, jungle warfare patch was honored above the ranger patch,the airborne rangers going through Jungle school were mostly on the Special Forces Group training to become one. They had A,B, and C teams when they got there berets, A teams were the bad dudes. I think they had to take Medical schools, among other things working their way up to an A team, C teams were tough but working their way up. I didn't see any Marines but that dosen't mean they didn't go though it. we were broke down into fire team size after booby traps and all that training and off to the jungle we went..Charlie

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Ken, when I got my orders to go home from my 1st tour I had just got out of the bush and was dead tired and really didn't get much sleep on the 141 coming home. Sarah was in Fresno and whe I got there all I could do was kiss her and crash on the couch, as I woke latershe had 4 girlfriends there I heard one say are you sure he's alive, I'm sure I smelt like I was. a real shower sure felt good..Charlie

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Ken, I could have turned Jungle Warfare School down, only about 25% make it through. It is unbeliveable but I made it. Our chopper squaron was with the 1st Cav. We were a MAG group and didn't wear thier patch. That Jungle Expert patch gave me a lot of pull, everyone knew what it was, It was honored the ranger patch and with the AMC patch a lot of people thought I had something to do with the CIA. but if I saw one I didn't know it, I sure wasn't....Charlie

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Ken, my chopper unit was Army Material Command that HQs were in Maryland at that place that is top secret. I never been there but we wore thier shoulder patchers. I have no idea why I was sent from tanker school to Jungle Warfare School from the 2nd AD. I think a clean record on the Hanna had something to do with it....Charlie

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Ken, Clinton started all that meat gazer stuff. During the draft I think a lot of guys said they were to keep from going to Nam, who knows, The rest of the cowards ran off to Canada. I think most of that happened about the time I left the Hanna and joined the Army. I was suprised at the number of guy that were 4-F in Dallas taking physicals. they were all branches of service...Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: .
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 13 May 2010
Time: 19:05

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charlie, might have cia at door step. that ok they will not make their pay here have a good night charlie going to bed later

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 13 May 2010
Time: 18:57

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charlie, we see the problem butt the special people for their own groups, don't hope the military gets it back in line, you can forget freedom if they don't. ken

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng rm.
Date: 13 May 2010
Time: 18:42

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charlie, you have been in a lot of military service, but would you want a queer in your fox hole. that is way out their, hope miltary wakes up. ken

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Dennis, N2 would have been great but my boat didn't didn't have an 02N2 plant. Siting in a bayou it was the best way out was to make C02. I did learn something in 02n2. We never made it in the plant but had to filter it out. I'm sure you had a lot to do with it in the fire dept... Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 13 May 2010
Time: 16:59

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charlie, dennis,great' to have you back. charlie, if you go to wal-mart and jack with women you will be ok. ken

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Charlie, I read your last post and forgot a barrel plug was called a bong. I thought you were using your old Pot pipe. Wouldn't nitrogen work better than air , I don't think it expands and contracts as much as regular air. Of course your fix is cheaper by far. Dennis

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Charlie, It rained all day yesterday and this AM . We were under flood watch most of the day but the Jet Stream took it just North of us and we haven't had any more rain since about 11 AM. It is going clear up to 65 degrees tomorrow but windy then 65 again Sat without the wind. If it wasn't for all the trees I would think I was sitting in the middle of Kansas. The patio is pretty much done except for a couple of spots where I have to cut the pavers. Been visiting with my daughter and her 9 month old daughter. Dennis

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Dennis, I had the bong pipe doped up and put a table spoon of baking powder, you could here a swoosh witch was good pushing the air out but I put the bong in as quick as I could and back up to se if it was going to pop. you could bounce the drums like a basket ball almost. What I did was made C02 that didn't expand and contract like air....Charlie

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Dennis, my houseboat was like a cabin on styrofoam floats. the turtles kept chewing them up, so I put plastic drums under it also, you wouldn't belive this houseboat it was a paridise in 20x40 sq ft. In cold weather the drums collapsed because the air inside shrank. I bought some new ones and put 1cp of water and one cp of viniger in them....Charlie

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Dennis, did the weather give you a break on your project's. you were having a bad hair day your last post. that sand dose have to be dry to compact it,I don't know about up there but I bought the biggest bug zapper I could find when I lived on my house boat, It just drew bugs. I give it to my neighbor and they all went over there and left me alone. he thought I was really a nice guy for giving it to him...Charlie

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Ken, I check it several times a day, I think a lot of the Shipmates are busy, I went to walmarts today, I always buy more than I go for but I love to jack with the women, I ask a few if they had a date tonight. It suprise's them and the usely say No and I ask them if they want one a couple said ask my husband. One said yes and I told her to cancel it and go with me, she said do you have a lot of money, I said you better stick with him. she was smarter than me and laughed.I used to hate to go to walmarts but it's recreation now.....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@scbglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 13 May 2010
Time: 12:57

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charlie, you need to post, first thing i do when i come on line is to pull up hanna. see what you got to say. are any of the other salts. been a blank web for to long. ken

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Ken, I'm going to shut my mouth for a while, no one else posting, this happens sometimes when I yack to much....Charlie

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Ken, she had 3 brothers and a sister, I was aboard the Hanna then. He let me date Sarah when I told him I would like to come back if my ship would let me. I started a mountain of special requst chits from then on, I was just 3rd class...Charlie

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Ken, my wife was born in Visalia Ca, I met her I Fresno where her family moved and I met her Dad when I ask hin if I could hunt phesents on the land he was over was in charge of, he said sure I'll show you how to get them, and gave me a ride on the back of his tractor witch they were used to and wern't afraid of. I bagged some easy and he took me in for supper....Charlie

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Ken, you are right, I knew what I was going to have to face for the next yr. my boys were getting older and more of a burden on my wife. they walked the line when I was home. a Military family comes part of it, my wife hated the Army. I would send them back to family and pay their way to get away from it. they learned civilian life......Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 12 May 2010
Time: 16:13

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charlie, i bet if you had another case of beer you or not stupid you would have still move it in time. been to a few honky tonk joints myself. good time for awhile then it would go haywire, but all it was fists and beer bottles.after it was over they brought beer for each other. ken

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I just remember Corpus Christi from yrs ago, I loved it. I run across my cousin there just before my 2nd tour to Nam I was Army and he was a Seabee, My wife and I went to visit his family, his tv didn't work, one of his boys shot at Indians on a cowboy show with his BB-gun. I didn't want to go back to Nam. Jerry and I were full of beer I told him to break my leg and I might not have to go. My wife just gave me that your crazy look and shook her head, She was pretty good at 1st aid by then. Jerry got one of his boys baseball bats and I laid my leg on the coffee table, He wound up like Mickey Mantle and I jerked my leg of, I had to have a couple more, that went on a few times but I never could get the guts, I dought if Jerry could hit my leg anyway, he would probly miss and bust his coffee table. My wife told me and my boys to get our butts in the car she was taking us home...Charlie

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Dennis, I go crazy with rental equipment, I bought 14 acers of woods close to Paris Tx. I rented a ditch digger that I could ride, I had to go back to the lumber yard and buy a bunch more pvc and kept it for an extra day, I had water hyrants everywhere. it sure was fun, I rented a bob-cat and even had more fun, it didn't have much power like a doser but I made it think it did, My neighbor had an old Case tractor, That was one heck of a power house, I kept it more than him. my little Farmall was a whimp,That was the only case I know of in our part of the country. They had tractor shows at the county fair where guys would rebuild old tractors, I seen some old steam powered, I don't remember the make.....Charlie

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Ken, I played pool when I was younger in Texas Honky-Tonks. It was expensive to me, I always ended up buying the beer puting another quarter in and racking. It was always trouble for me, If I played a Gal they always bent over flashing their headlights made me lose concentration. once I got into it with a guy over pool and was doing a pretty good job on a guy but I didn't know he had a brother there. a whack on the head with a beer bottle let me know. I still have a little scar up there. I'm not into games on the net.........Charlie

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Pete, I went to the history channel on computer today and watched about the AIM-7E missle on the Phantoms, it looked like they had a lot of problems with that generation, I think it said they came out in 65, have you used them. It said they were long range and radar controled by the Pilot. I think I would like something to pull the trigger and get the heck out of dodge, you don't have a tree to hide behind up there......Charlie

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Jim H, I seen what was the Skippers or the XO once with a guard but from behind going down the passageway, it is unusal for them to come down into snipe country. I have to regroup, There was about 4 of us that were getting out and were called to they XO's office and he wanted us to re-enlist for nuke school, I wish I had, We had high math and some other scores on that test they give you in bootcamp. I might have went to one of those subs that sank though.....Charlie

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Jim Hudson, I've been useing AC to shorten aircraft, sorry, A/C is short for air condition. I have never been in Officers Country. On the SeaBee base once they combined the O club with the Chiefs club and called it the kaki club but went back to different clubs. My cousin was in the Bee's Stationed at NAS Corpus, he remodled the Chiefs club with guys from the brig, he let them drink beer as they worked and had the whole brig wanting his work detail. He poured a lot of sidewalks on base there, he was a cement finisher by trade before going into the Bee's....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 11 May 2010
Time: 17:41

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charlie, don't know if you are into pool. if you are go to msn.free on line games.they had at one time you could invite a friend that was connected but they did away with it.they still have good system. ken

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First Jim Hudson, Good to see some of our Marines on the site and as a member. A/C is a short version of the word Aircraft although it is sometimes used for Air Crew. Charlie, Yes I have seen that show on TV with 68 cars over the years with some of them being either hot rods or racing cars I probably should have had a show of my own. I finally got burned out on them and bought a bass boat, now Michigan has gone back into winter again. Been trying to lay a patio and Murphy has been dogging me with rain, high winds and mid 40 degree weather plus the other day in the middle of everything the garage door broke, rented a compactor to pack the base and as soon as I got home with it it started to pour. I just kept going as I am as stubborn as that Irishman Murphy

Name: jim hudson
Email_Address: jim.hudson3@verizon.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1956-1958
Division_Squadron_Detachment: marine detachment
Date: 11 May 2010
Time: 14:46

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For Charlie Ridens: Would you please advise me what exactly the initials A/C stand for. I assume its an acronym but I've never heard it before, despite my two years serving as the Captain's orderly on the O6 level. Many thanks.

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Dennis do you ever watch "Overhauling" on tv, they sure build some nice cars......Charlie

Name: Jim Winn #170
Email_Address: Jwinnfsm@aol.com
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1959 - 1962
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V-6 and Fitron-211
Date: 11 May 2010
Time: 02:27

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Pete, I believe that Marine Gunnery (honorary) Sargeant on the History Channel show, Lock N' Load, was the one who was narrating about the longest shot, was Gunny R. Lee Ermey. He was a real D.I. (1965-67), served 14 months in Vietnam, two tours in Okinawa obtaining the rank of staff sgt, and has been in about 60 movies as well, i.e., "Full Metal Jacket." The Marine Corps bestowed the honorary rank at a later date. Jim

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Pete, have you ever been around a U-2, I have seen 2 take off from Diego Garcia at diffrent times, they are about loudest AC I know of.they traveled with a tanker that took off 1st when they got up to altitude of the tanker I think they refuled and Heaven knows where they went to take pictures....Charlie

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Pete, everyone looks at a fighter A/C and wishes they could be a Pilot, civilians don't know what it takes. Gena was staying with me when she had problems with my youngest son. We were drinking coffee one am on the patio, and a AF Pilot went straight up like he was going to the moon and went out of site, I told her he was going to run out of gas, it wasn't long and you could see him circleing back down looking for a gas station at Kessler....Charlie

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Pete, remember ROE, I'm sure you could drop a hand gernade down a chimmy from a piper cub, you are right if its electronics in can be jammed or computer shut down, I belive you had fly by the seat of your pants training, I know new ships can go manual for back up. I would think A/C could too, I don't think you would be suprised what a guy can do with his butt in the hot seat....Charlie

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Pete, we get Senior NCOs here, the highest rank I've seen is a Senior Chief, It is unusual for an Officer to be here, they are quarters they can get at both bases, brand new homes not barracks, I think he's the real deal but In my mind I have questions that are none of my business, He is well groomed and pressed and startched, He may be takeing a Officer course at the CB base. I will try to break the ice again, He looks like in his mid to late 20s....Charlie

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Hear ya Charlie. We are the old guard. I was a good manual bomber (50 ft CEP). That was a 45 deg dive at 450 kts. Now days, they dail in the coordinates and launch the weapon from wherever. I talked personally to the Adm in charge of the Strike Fighter Weapons School at Falon a year ago. He assured me that manual bombing training techniqes were in place. He was an A-7 guy. But was not convinced. With no computer...what are the F-18 guys going to do?Some body assure this ole attack pilot! Pete

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Pete, when I see the Capt, again I will ask to hit our web site, I wish I knew the newer term for sapper when I talked to him, I think he felt pushed with my questions, I told him I was in the Army once for 5 yrs, he said his Dad served in Nam, I was in cut off levis and bare foot, I just went out there to ask him if I should move my van to give him more room to move in....Charlie

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Pete, I saw a guy here with a sniper T-shirt on, I talked to him, We don't have much Army here unless they are takeing electronics courses at Kessler, or training with the SeaBees, They do have a place at the airport to use, The last time I saw any was a few yrs ago that were a wart-hog squardron....Charlie

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Pete, I guess I'm out of touch with the newer terms, in Nam we just used C-4, blasting caps were more dangerous than it was. Engineers mostly made roads and bridges, They had a tank that dozer blade on it wish a little short barrel and fired a round that was HE and could clear a LZ with one round, I don't know about them, I was trained in the 2nd AD at Ft Hood and most of ours were armour penetrating, WP and Lechet rounds for anti personel, we had a few zippo's that could spray napalm. they had a couple giant spark plugs in the barrel, I never fired one. We had trucks that looked like gas trucks but had slow turning blades in it and saw them dumping stuff in it that were in bags to make the gas gel....Charlie

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I also saw a piece by the Gunny about Marine snipers. It was great. This was on the History Channel. Longest shot, etc. Check it out if it is on again. Still think one precision bomb on target can make a Marine's day and make the Grunts life alot more safe. Call it in! Attack guys are there! We deliver!Pete

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Charlie, give the Capt a big hello from the Hannah guys and tell him the CDR says hi also! I think Sappers are the Army Combat Enginers. I saw a show on the History Channel hosted by the Marine Gunny who's name escapes me (Mckinney?). Anyway, he has been is several progams/films (actor). He is the real deal tho. The Sapper Sgt he was profiling was blowing in doors and sides of buildings with plastic...Cool! This was for Trooper entry to a building full of bad guys. However, my solution as an Attack Pilot is to drop a 2Klb precision bomb and go home to Mid Rats. Pete

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Of all times As we discuss rank an Army Capt is moving in above me, 1st time I ever seen one work, He had a Senior Sgt with him, He has a sapper decal on the back glass of his truck, I ask him if he was a sniper, thats what they called them yrs ago. He said he had something to do with engineers, I bet he's part of the NG sent down to help with this oil thing, He was all dressed ot in his cammys and brett, I called him LT but it should have been Cap......Charlie

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My Chief was MMC Atwood, one heck of a great guy, I stood my shifts with him or BT1 Mills while learning to 02 plant. Chief even taught me how to play chess. Mills was actualy tougher, He's the one responsable to keep the plant looking like a brand new penny. You have to keep the 02 plant spotless for safety and 02 contamination. we had to have a good crew for safety, When I was in charge of the #1 plant I onley had to call Chief to get one new guy out of there. he couldn't comprehend what he was dealing with, Chief never questioned me, I just put him on the phone he got his coffee cup and left, I don't know what dept he went to...Charlie

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charlie, here feb. 15 your right, feb. is good. my 4 kids went too robert e lee in high school.

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Ken. I'm 3 yrs behind you, I was also born in Feb on the 17th, A lot of great men were born in Feb, Washington, Robert E Lee, Einstien, and me. Heck Cujo and I are buddys, I don't know who the boss is around here, I wish I had a book of report chits, She might turn as many in on me, I would have to send them to the XO to see who gets busted. I do have the power to put her in the slammer, (patio with the glass door shut) I hope she dosen't find out about her civil rights. She might want medical pot....Charlie

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David, that's the name, I couldn't remember it. Pod was smart but staid busy having fun no matter where he was, the stay in the HASP brig he laughed about it and said I got a free ride back to ship how about you. Report chits were tore up, what are you going to do to a man on his way to Nam, Let him sit it out in the brig waiting for a court marshsal it requested. The night before we fell in love with a couple Waves at Ft Duresy, Pod was never a Sailor but would have been a good one. He came though when chips were down. I'm not so sure about his evals..Charlie

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Mack, she's easy on the eyes but to know her is to love her, I'm fortunate to get close mentaly with her, Her Dad griped at her all the time so I fell in as 2nd, he didn't like her struting her stuff, I just told her what I thought about her questions from my heart and experince, I don't think she ever had a man really tell her from that prospective. She found out what I told her was true. Don't ride in her hotrod Mecedis convertable,It has 2 speeds. ahead full and reverse screws for a stop, you feel like your in a go-cart with your butt scraping the ground. When we went places I had her drive my van. she didn't mind but it just wasn't a Toni car, kinda like puting Pete in a piper cub...Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm,.
Date: 09 May 2010
Time: 20:38

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charlie, i am 70 last feb. was not trying to make fun of you. take care of cujo like i will take care of my lab coco later ken

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Pete, most senior people relize when their abilitys slow down. I'm not that old but relize my ability, I was glad to get my drivers licence re-newd. I drive safe but people breaking the sound barrier texting, and yacking on C-phones scare me, I may drive 2 K a yr and get that many 1 finger salutes because I'm slowing them down, speed limt signs are a waste of money...Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 09 May 2010
Time: 19:27

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chariie, when was in aft. eng. rm. if the cheif was their he sat beteen the turbines on a steel box. no one ever open it or sat on it, maybe mm1 did. remenber mm1 name. JAMES WRIGHT. cheif was the best guy too. that steal box did not have a custion on it. i think i would have never sat on it. that was the seat of people that knew what they were their for. ken

Name: David Byrum
Email_Address: dtbyrum@gmail.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1961-1964
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V-4 Div
Date: 09 May 2010
Time: 18:41

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Charlie that bar with the glass wall under the pool was "Davey Jones's Locker" You went to the underground parking of the old "REEF HOTEL" to get in. I went there every time we pulled liberty in Pearl.

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Charlie, stopped flying after Helos in the Reserves. Never wanted to be an airline pilot, although many of my friends did and had nice careers (all retired now with a lot more money than me). Still have my license (single,multi-engine), but have not stayed current. I think I have posted this before: most airline (esp. commuter) pilots have no military training now. Only the old "grey beards" in the larger airlines. Have seen Capts on flights I have been on (regional jets) that I swear have not shaved yet :) Scary, Huh! I guess they get from point A to point B ok. Pete

Name: Henry A McCormick
Email_Address: henry.mccormick82
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1961-1964
Division_Squadron_Detachment: B-Div # 4 & 1 Firerooms
Date: 09 May 2010
Time: 17:58

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Charlie R., your friend, Toni, is a very striking young woman. You take good care. Cheers, Mack

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 09 May 2010
Time: 14:04

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charlie, do you have running lights on your vehicle? cujo might not want to pull it. your battery might go dead. just kidding, take it easy talk with you later. ken

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Ken, to me the Hanna was like a big jigsaw puzzle, every piece had to be there performing it's best. Cujo was running out of dog food so I put her in the front basket of my 4 wheel electric scooter and went to walmarts, the guy at the door winked and said handycap dog,I winked bag and said ya she's my seeing eye dog, thats the 1st time I tried taking her. Every one in the place pet her. she enjoyed the attention, One guys wife pet her and he said that's better than a wife, I told him I think so at least she don't bite me, his wife cracked up. She must have bit him before....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 09 May 2010
Time: 10:07

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charlie,and all, i feel honored to even be able to read y'alls comments. always knew it had to be tough. it was like a plessure cruise when i was on board. thanks, too all of you.ken

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Pod and I snuck off one night to a little village that was off limits because VC would come in at night sometimes, you know what happens to a guy when he uses the wrong head to think. We flased a flaslight as a sanpan and it flashed back, the girl and her dad took us to the village about 12 miles away, she could speak english pretty good. very early in the am she woke me up telling me the VC were coming and Pod and our girl friends hid in the jungle until mourning all we had was side arms, In the am they took us to Hwy1 witch was a gravel rd. We hitched a ride from a LARC. It is better off in water than dry land, It has no springs and will toss you around like a bucking bull. He radio the fire base and told them he had us so we wouldn't end up on the missing list..Charlie

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Helmut, I could wright a book about Pod, but no one would belive it. after our yr in Nam was up we were at a firebase waiting for our number to come up to go home, His come up 1st, I carried his duffle bag and put it on the chopper taking him as tradition, He didn't make it far the chopper got shot down,the next day he was back cussing the VC, there was never a boreing moment with him around, I met his wife and kids, I think his Dad was Russian and his Mom was Polock, He could speak the language and loved to cook stuff I didn't know what it was ...Charlie

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Helmut, once I got him out of the hotel I wanted to get him back to ship, The fool waved down a HASP thinking it was a cab, They give him a ride to the brig. I got back to ship and told the OD and they went and got him. We set sail the next am. We never got shot down. bullet holes but nothing vital....Charlie

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Helmut, Podhurny was the name of my assistant, Our choppers were loaded on a jeep carrier in mayport fla and we we went through the canal and pulled into Pearl and got liberty, He bought a gallon of wine and sit on the beach in front of a big swanky hotel drinking it, I went int the hotel and the bar was under ground with a big glass end under water of the pool, you could watch the gals dive and swim. Pod as we call him came in and seen it. and I thought he was going to the head, the next thing I saw was him in the water with his thumbs in each ear waveing his fingers...Charlie

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Helmut, there was 4 of us on a chopper, Pilot, Co-Pilot I was door gunner and a assistant gunner that would change barrels on my M-60 after each belt to keep it from getting to hot and slap another belt in, He had asbestos gloves, He was as crazy as the Pilots, he was as yankee as they come, he was fron NJ. What a crew???...Charlie

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Helmut , to me WOs were a group of there own, I was around them as chopper Pilots in the Army a lot but they didn't fit in good with other Officers, My Pilots went to the beer tents and on liberty with me. they could sign chits to get us free hotel rooms in Sigon if we landed for maintence, They didn't wear anything to show they were Pilots, They were a crazy bunch and scared hell out of me flying the chopper, I thought they they were going to use it as a lawn mower a couple of times to trim tree tops off the Jungle.....Charlie

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Charlie, I only saw two Warrant Officers while on active duty. WO Deal was aboard Hancock during my tour. He was Peggy Fleming's uncle. Peggy was the 1968 Olympic ladies figure skating gold medal winner. While TAD to the AMD parachute loft at NAS Lemoore WO Husky was my division officer.

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Bob when my son was on the Reagon enginering was two diff. dept. He had nothing to do with the reactors, he handled the rest, He did not like his job as a paper shuffler. It is nice to be a MC and look for openings for a job on a computer, He got orders to the Gator Navy on an old flat botton. He felt at home , most off his life he has been bounced off bulkheads of FFG's, ....Charlie

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Bob that is the way I think, My oldest Son is a MC, he could have went Command MC and sent anywhere. He chose to stay in his field and is a MM,MC, He is not a Command MC but is right under ships Enginering Officer. He started out as a BT fireman crawling into cold iron boilers changing fire brick. I have to stick my chest out. He has about 18 mos left before retireing on 30...Charlie

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I am real worried about this oil thing in the gulf, Some call it a spill in the news but it is a gusher flowing full force. some people say let the Navy blow it up with the idea the rock will close it off , that dill casing will still be there and they will end up with a big hole in the ground a mile deep gushing, It is beyond my 3 brain cells, I don't see how nukes would work as some people suggest, It is a real live probem that will effect most of the world. When BP go's bankrupt It will be dumpt into the Navys Lap... Charlie

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Charlie- While I was a SNSI(Senior Naval Science Instructor) in the NJROTC program, I had the pleasure of hiring a Master Gunnery Sergeant(E-9), USMC. His name was Bill Fedderman, and his MOS was electronics technician. The Sergeant Major in the Marine Corps is equal to the Master Chief in the Navy (E-9). The difference between the two is one in Organizational(Personnel) the SGT Major and the other is the technician( Master Gunnery SGT. ) Bob

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Pete do you still have a Pilots License, I have no idea how that works transfering over to civilian. Most civilan airline Pilots are X-military, I don't know about a flight with you, you might try a barrrel roll in a 747 just to see if it could do it...Charlie

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Pete, Tom Cruis didn't have anything over you, you were the real deal, I never could figure out why you wanted to get so far from earth, I remember you telling me you went to Astro-nut training, that had to be tough, I was in Huntsville Ala and I saw some of the old rockets they used . they were huge, I thought you guys on the Hanna were nuts flying the F-8s. Your wife has to be tougher than you to put up with you. I joke with you in high respect ....Charlie

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Wayne, thanks for clarifying. My Naval education continues. First starting with a crusty 1st Class Gunner's mate taking a 4th class NROTC midshipman from a small town in Northwest WA under his wing to today. Also, my father's stories of the Aleutians and Naval Aviation inspired the budding Naval Aviator. Move over Tom Cruise, I had a good career! :) Pete

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Old Salt, As I remember it when Nam shut down they had a RIF progam, (reduction in force) Army WO chopper pilots had a choice to become Sgt 1st class E-7 or Master Sgt E-8 depending on what paygrade the were as a WO or get out, I thought it was a raw deal. Stripes in the Army shut down also, forget promotion. ....Charlie

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Old Salt I only saw one Navy WO in my life and that was in bootcamp. They were rare as hens teeth I think, I belive most went LDO. I could be wrong but I think E-8s were called Master Gunnys if they wern't 1st Sgts. Most MC E-8s were unless in a specialty field. I do know one thing If you want a good fight call a Marine Soldier Boy, the SeaBees used to do it for sport until they just started giveing us the one finger salute. Seabees were some big dudes for the most part....Charlie

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Tom Wimberly is correct in that NAVY Warrants, both Aviation Ordnance, and Surface Gunner are nicknamed "Gunner". Marine Warrants are called "Gunner", as opposed to a Gunnery Sgt (E-7) who are called "Gunny" (just like Gibbs on NCIS). Air Force and Army called Warrants "Chief". Will do some research on what Coast Guard uses.

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XO I think yor right, as i remember the MC E-7 and E-8 were called Gunny unless they were a 1st SGT. In the Army we called WO Pilots "Chief" I never tried to figure out the markings on there bars as to pay grade, they knew who they were. In the Navy you could get by calling any pay grade Chief a Chief, those litle stars were hard to see at a glance if you didn't know him. My rank was "Ridens" until I made buck SGT in the Army. It took me a while to get used to getting paid once a mo. I give up on AF stripes, I think they give one for ever pay grade and I wouldn't sit there and count them. When I was in the Bee's the Crow on my hat really kept soldiers screwed up, "When in dought whip it out" It was funny at 1st but returning salutes get's old. we worked mostly with the Marines who knew what we were. I have told people I was a CB and they would ask what is that....Charlie

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About "Gunner" as a rank title. Someone more knowledgeable, step in and correct this. In the USMC, there's a rank called Gunnery Sergeant. As far as I know, they never call him Gunner, they call him "Gunny." In the Navy, a guy gets to be "Gunner" when he is made a warrant officer with specialty in gunnery or ordnance. I don't think any chief is ever called "Gunner." However, when a warrant gunner gets promoted, he may well keep his moniker "Gunner." That's the case with Gunner Dove. He is a LT, but there's a lot more prestige in being called "Gunner" than to being called lieutenant - at least there certainly is in my book.

Name: TOM WIMBERLY
Email_Address: twimbo@aol.com
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1970-72
Division_Squadron_Detachment: Ship's Exec
Date: 08 May 2010
Time: 08:18

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CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS POST ABOUT HERSCH PAHL. He crawled in his shop to his grinder, mounted on a pole, and pulled himself up and walked into the house, seated himself in what he calls a roller chair, got his cell phone and rolled out the front door. Called a neighbor to come look at him, then called friends to take him to hospital. Our call ended when some medics came into his room to work with him, "to teach me to walk" he said. Hersch had been flying his flag at half mast in honor of his VF-6 wingman Wilton Hoot Hutt who recently died. Hersch described one dogfight they got into at Truk. Each got a Japanese plane. I don't have any records of Hutt. Maybe he was in VF-6 with Hersch before VF-6 came to Hancock. Hersch thinks the world of Jake Jaccard. I often get choked up talking to the WWII guys. They were my heroes when I was 14 (1945) and are still my heroes.

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Re Hersch Pahl, Assn member and WWII F6F Hellcat fighter pilot with VF-6. I talked to Hersch on the phone at about 9:30 this morning. He is in pain, they are giving him medication but it's not relieving the pain. He fell on his hip after turning off the lights on his flagpole, and knew he had broken his hip. HAVE TO CONTINUE ON ANOTHER POST

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XO they gave her a plack and I ask her if the gave her a Crown, she said shes been wearing it ever since she woke up. I'm happy for her as a pig in a mud hole. She going to get me a vidio of it, but as active of life as she has I may have to bug her. If I call her or she calls me there is no telling where she's at. Her boyfriend is a great guy but he's got a tiger by the tale. You can't have a jelous streak, she draws attention and loves it, she is true though....... Charlie

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XO She said on practice the day before when she did cartwheels she fell on her butt, She said on the real thing everything worked perfect except the fringe on her dress caught on the guys buttons tossing her in the air and tore some off. She said she kept eye contact with the public during her dance and thought that helped. She had to wear red lipstick and dark eye lashes like back in the 20s. she said they went out to eat after the event and she looked like a hooker,she normaly wears very little makeup....Charlie

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XO I just called Toni, She made 1st place in danceing with stars. She said they treated her like a Queen on the Lex. They told her it was haunted, I don't know where that came from, She wore a turquise flapper, I didn't talk but a min as she was fixing something to eat and will call me back. My little girl was real happy. She just called me back...Charlie

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Ken, hydralics could get pretty messy pretty messy when a seal blows, I worked 02N2, I loved my job. I think the Airdales topped thier lox carts off before a port of call to get a shot of 02 to help get rid of hangovers. My love was the aft plant, thats where I learned, I ended up in charge of the fwd but I never could get it to produce like aft. My boss told me I never would, I think it was the HP compressor was not puting out the cubic inches of air the aft one was........Charlie

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Ken, the XO dosen't say much but when he speaks people listen, Pete is easier to draw in, Dennis my walking encylopidia and his buddy Jim add a lot, Jerry Bell just reads, Gordon the Brit is AWOL, The Snipes join in sometimes when you can draw them. Old Salt I think runs the office. I have left a lot of shipmates out that post. I'm thankfull for the crew that keeps it going.....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 07 May 2010
Time: 20:47

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pete,@charlie you two keep the web. alive it's good. charlie, sent you a video, lumber jack. that is one machine. later ken. charlie. you being in a div. i have made my living in hyd. ken

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 07 May 2010
Time: 20:46

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pete,@charlie you two keep the web. alive it's good. charlie, sent you a video, lumber jack. that is one machine. later ken. charlie. you being in a div. i have made my living in hyd. ken

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Thanks Pete, I think I get it , It is not set by the number of troops under his command like a Battion Sgt Major, or Division Sgt Major, He worked strictly Ordance. We had Gunnys in the Bees I never knew what their mos was but basicly Grunts, You know I have switched sevices and try to put them together. I ended up with an ordance mos out of tanker school at Ft hood and ended up in Jungle Warefare School in Panama learning to set claymores and booby traps, go figure, They always scared me setting them....Charlie

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Charlie, reference is to the Navy Gunner's Mate. Aka Ordance Men. A fine tradition.Pete

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Gunner Dove, I'm not real sure what a Marine Gunner is, I've heard of them, I worked with Marines a lot in the Seabees, We had a Master Gunny as a military advisor on deployment, In home port we had Gunnys E-7s that were in charge of the armory and trained crew served weapons. My crew out shot the Marines at camp Lejuene with the 106 and morters. Marines are a tough bunch. are you a LDO LT?....Charlie

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Gunner, we did have some good liberty! Cannot remember the last time we talked...still have the Morse Code tapes you sent me...you being busy and me being a slacker:) Thanks XO, for the reunion. I will be going to the Tailhook again this year. Got to keep the iron hot while Beth keeps signing the Liberty Chits. As you know, Denny Ireland is the editor of the Tailhook magazine. I see him every year at the reunion. Beth sends her best. Pete

Name: Gunner Henry F. Dove
Email_Address: ta4f91@suddenlink.net
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1969 - 1973
Division_Squadron_Detachment: VA-212
Date: 07 May 2010
Time: 14:52

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For Pete Cole, you were most entertaining and informative on our excursions ashore. I took it as a training and educational hop. Plz give Beth our well wishes from Eunice, xyl and myself. Say "Hi" to Denny Ireland the next time you see him for me too. XO, Tom Wimberly, led me to the qtrdk site and I read all your comments posted, too. Very informative and educational ! One of these days I hope to be able to make the TailHook Conv. too. Just gotta find time as my plate is overflowing with all this Masonic stuff that the XO and I are involved in here. I may try to make Reno for the next tailhook . I find that now, I'm working harder than I ever did before and it's all voluntary too. No pay either! ! The XO was my secretary, recently in the Nat'l Sojourners and he did and "OUTSTANDING" job in that position too. He worked his backside off too ! ! Better sign out and go QRT here. XO, thanx for the notification. "Gunner" H. F. Dove, KO5H LT [LDO] USN -Ret.

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Ken, I met my new Dr, I like him, nothing happened really, all test say I'm not going to croak, He order me some pills for back and neck pain, I got my pig flue shot, He was going to tell the nurses to set me up with different Drs in a different building for this agent orange thing. all the nurses were out to lunch.He took me himself to a differnt team and all they did was give me a number to call to make my own appointment after he left. He was honest enough to say he's just learning the VA ropes, Ive been around this circle before, when I get an appointment all I will get is a questioner to return that I never hear from again. I'm doing good, no sweat..Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 07 May 2010
Time: 14:03

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hey pete cole that is a good web. skyhawk association.lot of info. since i was a snipe i didn't know very much. about them. did enjoy it. charlie,how did va. turn out? ken

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XO that picture dose not give her justice, I have sent Dennis better, KZTV10Action news uses the same picture but tells a lot more of her history. I didn't know she worked as a intern for Trent lot and a lot of things, She dosn't toot her horn like being on the history channel and geograffic explorer. at the site go to news down to local and enter,then on the right you will see her picture click on it and you will learn a lot, I had no idea, I picked up bits and pieces talking to her. I knew about the book shes writeing and read some of it in the draft, It is like a biography but peoples names have been changed because of political ties she has State and in DC. I dought if she will ever publish it. To me it is her fustrations with Gov and her ups and downs in life....Charlie

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WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS AN " OOPS " THE ADDRESS REFERED TO IN THE PREVIOUS POST CORRECTED IS - - - - " HULLNUMBER.COM " NO SPACES ! SORRY FOR THE ERROR. ROB

Name: Gary Stevens
Email_Address: garystevens@rocketmail.com
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 63 - 64
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V- 4 Div
Date: 07 May 2010
Time: 13:13

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There is some nasty stuff in the forum that need to be removed. I e-mailed the admin three times and no feedback.

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what we have here is a failure to communicate correctly in the previous msg.! there should be NO space in the " hullnumber.com. " address. sorry. rob

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JUST BROWSING THE WEB AND RAN ACROSS A SITE CALLED " HULL NUMBER.COM " THERE SEEMS TO BE A BUNCH OF HANCOCK SAILORS REGISTERED THERE. SOME OF YOU ON THIS SITE MAY WANT TO CHECK IT OUT, IT'S FREE. SMOOTH SEAS AND FAIR WEATHER SHIPMATES. ROB

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XO I would rather go up and kick the "Skipper" in the butt than mess with a Gunner,Sgt Major or MC, they have the power to get you out of it. they all started out from scatch and got to where they are at being enlisted, My son had a chance to become LDO when he was a SC and turned it down, He's a MC and called me yesterday. He just got back off deployment. He has about 18 mos to get his 30 in. Dennis and Jim will be wearing the green shirts he got for them off the Reagan, He can't pull that MC crap on me or his wife. I don't do diapers but his mom did and I knew how to spank his butt.....Charlie

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Hey I don't want you guys to get the wrong idea about Toni, I had a key to her apt as she did mine, She didn't need a frig she always raided mine. We watched DVDs I drank my beer and she drank wine. I put "Top Gun" on and she loved it and ask me if Pilots acted like that, I told her every one I saw did. I've nursed her through a couple hangovers but have never been out of line...Charlie

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XO I met Toni about 3yrs ago walking her dog, we went a lot of places together, people always thought I was her Dad. She lived in the same apts as me, she used my apt as her hang out to get away from people and shut her cell phone off, She staid once for a week and that's when we learnd to talk candid to each other. She may look like a movie star but is religious. I have talked with her Mom and GrandMother. they want her to get married and reproduce. All I could tell her was that would be her own decision not thiers or mine,don't get pushed into something you don't want to do. I've seen her tears of Joy and tears of Sad...Charlie

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XO thanks for the link, She called me about a week ago excited about the dance contest. She is full of confidence she's going to win, telling me all about her flapper dress and flashy shoes. It is a roaring 20's presentation. I sure hope she dosen't get her heart broken, she's a good sport with a heart big as Texas. She calls me at least once a mo....Charlie

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Many of you remember that Charlie Ridens has a friend in Corpus Christi, a newscaster with a local TV station, Toni Miles. If Toni's looks are typical of Charlie's female friends, I'm envious. If you want to see a picture and read a little of Toni's history, go to the website sparklingcityhumanegala.com, and click on 'Dancing with the stars.' Toni is participating tonight in a humane fund raiser aboard the Lexington Museum. I regret that Gay and I won't be able to attend.

Name: Tom Wimberly
Email_Address: twimbo@aol.com
Association_Member: .
Years_Aboard: 1970-72
Division_Squadron_Detachment: Exec of the ship
Date: 07 May 2010
Time: 05:35

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For Pete Cole. Interesting you mention Hank Dove. One of the nice things that has happened to me in the past three years is getting to know him. He lives in Victoria, about 90 miles away. He and I are heavy into Freemasonry. He just finished a year as President of the local Chapter of National Sojourners - that's Masons who served in the military. I have been Sec-Treas of that Chapter for the past three years. I call him "Gunner." I tell the local landlubber Masons that there is no heavier title in the Navy than "Gunner." "Chief" is heavy too, but there are a lot more Chiefs than Gunners. Gunner Dove is a member of the Hancock Ass'n and he is on line, but I don't think he ever posts here. I'll tell him he ought to start checking the quarterdeck log.

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Pete, my daughter-in-law was a ET on a repair ship when my son met her. I presume the difference would be would be an AT is aviation ??. I think she worked with electronic warfare equipment on surface craft. they called her a twigit, She is sharp as a tack and has common sense also. She is VP of a Jr College in SD that teaches nothing but electroics......Charlie

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Jim, Welcome aboard Squadron Alum, jogging the memory here. Think it was the ALQ 120 in my time. My real mentor in the squadron in '73 was the CW04 Odnance division officer. I was the QA Officer. Hank Dove really taught this new Lt what he needed to know about being on cruise Port calls were great! Now, selfish plug for the Skyhawk Associaton: http://a4skyhawk.org/. you are invited to join as all Hannah sailors (Got to admit I am SA Board member). Pete

Name: Jim Spurlock
Email_Address: cwonav@aol.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 62 and 68/69
Division_Squadron_Detachment: VA212/VA55
Date: 06 May 2010
Time: 18:24

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Pete Cole and Larry Jones; A4E had ALQ58 ECM gear and A4f had ALQ100. I was an AE3/AE2/AE1 and AEC in A4 squadrons. Didn't maintain the gear but helped the twidgets (ATs) hump the heavy gear to the flight deck.

Name: Jim Spurlock
Email_Address: cwo4nav@aol.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1962 ,1968/1969
Division_Squadron_Detachment: VA 212/VA 55
Date: 06 May 2010
Time: 17:58

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New member as of 5 May 2010. Really enjoy scrolling through the comments from other members. Hopefully I will find an old shipment one of these days.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng.rm.
Date: 06 May 2010
Time: 16:44

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pete, thanks if i was 74 would get lifetime. since i am 70 might be best choice. geat webb. later ken

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Ken, your Hancock Association membership expiration date is on the mailing lable of your "Hannah News."Pete

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Ken, your Hancock Association membership expiration date is on the mailing lable of your "Hannah News."Pete

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div.aft. eng. rm.
Date: 06 May 2010
Time: 16:04

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charlie, how did it go with va.? i enjoyed our old vic. they were great. if you kept. them tuned up they did not put out all that pulusion. think had a lot to do with groups trying to put more money in their own pockets. laler ken

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Ken, I'm not sure when my dews are due, I'm sure they will let us know. I had a dream last night that I had a 58 Chevy and had to get back to ship but I got drunk and forgot where I left it. I was watching American Graffiti I fell asleep watching it. the old cars and music sure gave me a trip down memory lane. VA day is here, catch you later.....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 05 May 2010
Time: 20:25

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charlie, i meant dues for association. y'all got it coming. agent orange. not good.ken

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Ken, I think that dome will work with good weather on the oil spill but at a mile down every thing will have to co-operate. I'm not sure what you mean on when you have to pay for the next two yrs, I presume your talking about me saying SS pay has been blocked from raises for the next 2 yrs.....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng.rm.
Date: 05 May 2010
Time: 19:37

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charlie. hope its good tomorrow at va. be bad if we had nothing. let me know how it came out. ken.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng.rm.
Date: 05 May 2010
Time: 19:36

Comments

charlie. hope its good tomorrow at va. be bad if we had nothing. let me know how it came out. ken.

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Ken I watched the Carson show thing you sent, He's a classic that no one can copy, I have to go to the VA tomarrow, It shortens my life 1/2 a day if they do anything or not just being there waiting. I never was one much for waiting, "Get er Done".......Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 05 May 2010
Time: 18:19

Comments

charlie, going to send you a old johnny carson show. let me know. ken

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 05 May 2010
Time: 18:01

Comments

charlie, looked at a little tv. looks like they are giving their best. hope them luck. how do you know when you need to pay for next 2 years. i think my is getting close.ken.

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David, for some reason your last name sure sticks in the back of my mind from the Hanna. where did you work, you must have been ships company, They have some good deals on those cruise ships now. they had a 5 night out of Mobile real cheap to Mexico package deal. One has a lease signed In Gpt,Ms to dock as soon as the port expansion is done. It will become a major port. the widening of the Panama Canal, new RR lines is all falling in place......Charlie

Name: David
Email_Address: Byrum
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1961-1964
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V-4 Div
Date: 05 May 2010
Time: 07:53

Comments

Just completed some sea duty (Royal Caribbean)it was nice to be at sea again, I will say the chow hall was a little better than the "Hanna's" the only flight deck I saw some marine gunners were playing shuffle board on(they must have been marines cause they couldn't hit anything lol)

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Ken, I got the Redneck sheet shooting e-mail, I fwd most my good e-mail to my Aunt in Paris Tx, and she sends me a lot. Shes a animal lover. she took her dog to a dog shrink yrs ago, I ask her who answerd the questions her or the dog. shes about my age.......Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm
Date: 04 May 2010
Time: 17:33

Comments

charlie, i am going to send you a email on rednech seet shooting. let me know if it gets their

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng rm.
Date: 04 May 2010
Time: 16:39

Comments

charlie, your cujo is diff. then my lab. thunder, hail , rain, see is so close to me i can not walk. this webb. its the Navy. and i enjoy it . my chief. would like a pinch on butt. as long as she ceck. you out first. later ken

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Gene, You need to get the DVD history of the USS Hancock to pass down to kin. your Grandfather was aboard her toughest yrs. I have read about it but to see actual films is something else, one of the Shipmates here sent me a copy. maybe someone might come up with a link to get it, It is a keeper.....Charlie

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Ray, I have the DVD Mr Roberts coming. They showed it to us in boot camp. Your dog sounds like it came out of the same mold as mine. Mine is unusal as it is solid white. I bought a Radio controled truck one and would chase her with it, she would out manuver it and attact. I buy those big soap bubble wands they have for kids at walmarts and hold it in front of a fan, her feet dosen't hardly hit the floor she wants to pop them all. the 1st time I did it she bit one and looked a me like where did it go. They are waterproof, It never rains hard enough for her to want to stay indoors, she is not afraid of thuder or lighting at all. she dosen't like the vacum cleaner......Charlie

Name: Gene C. Smith
Email_Address: annavonfrankenstein@yahoo.com
Association_Member: No
Years_Aboard: 1942-1945
Division_Squadron_Detachment: CM1 US NAVY WORLD WAR II
Date: 04 May 2010
Time: 10:03

Comments

This was my grandfather.

Name: Ray Rinaldi
Email_Address: rayr1006@hotmail.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 57/58
Division_Squadron_Detachment: VA116
Date: 04 May 2010
Time: 07:20

Comments

Charlie, Steve McQueen was the star in sand pepples. I also have a Jack Russell. He is 7 years old and he is a spolied brat I got him when he was 5 in. long. He thinks he owns my home. I just live here to do what he wants me to do.Every day at 2 oclock we play ball for1/2 hr . At 5 oclock we go for a 1/2 mile walk. Every single day rain or shine 365 days a year. He is my best friend in a fur coat.Take care Ray

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Ken, You hit the nail on the head, I don't know if I could leave Cujo. She has her special traits that I understand. She talks to me in dog lingo like I can understand her voice but I know what she want's. I don't know what I will do when it becomes time......Charlie

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Ken, I have degenerative authoritis, somewhere in my system nerves to my legs don't get the correct voltage, and are very weak, agent orange, other than that I feel in my mind I'm young, I promise not to pinch your Chief on the butt. I sure miss my blond hair and broad shoulders....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 03 May 2010
Time: 20:49

Comments

charlie, sounds great. can you take cujo with you i am sure i think he or she would control your dicision. later ken.

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Ken, The Naval Home is a retirement home for Military not a nursing home, It is great. you have your own room, A big galley that feeds you, A lounge for drinking and telling war storys, you do what you want. you can check out on liberty for 3 days, but if you fall in love you can call them to extend it or put you on 30 days leave. I fell in love once and was gone so long when I got back the guys had a for sale sign on my door...Charlie

Name: Ship's Store John Hunter
Email_Address: j.hunter3@verizon.net
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 74-76
Division_Squadron_Detachment: B Div.
Date: 03 May 2010
Time: 20:12

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If anyone is interested, E-Bay has the 69-70 cruisebook for a buy it now price of $119.99. That's a good price if you are interested. Here is the link. http://cgi.ebay.com/USS-HANCOCK-CVA-19-CRUISE-BOOK-VIETNAM-ERA-WOW-/360258231935?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e1105e7f I will not be filling orders after May 7th so I can organize and have the merchandise ready to ship to Washington D.C.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 03 May 2010
Time: 19:56

Comments

charlie, if you do come to see xo. give me a email my cheif and i will go to see you. what do you mean naval home. i do not understand. are you disable. ken.

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Ken, if the Chief approved your request chit your good to go, I'm going to try to make the next one myself, I've got a lot of irons in the fire this summer. I would like to go out and just meet the XO in CC before then, my main objective is to get back into the Naval Home in a few mos....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 03 May 2010
Time: 18:50

Comments

charlie, pete, wayne, xo. can tell ya'll are old salts. but i do enjoyed learing from ya'll next reunion going no matter where it is . done got permission from wife. y'all have a good night talk too y'all later ken.

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Pete, your FO would click to let you know if friend or foe were coming done the trail. if foe 1 click for each that came by to let tou know how many. I hated testing claymores with that hell box to make sure the circuit was correct, I just knew it was going to blow up in my face, A pucker power moment....Charlie

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Pete, I didn't take Larry serious, I'm sure he's been around Sailors before, I studied morris code to get a badge in the cub scouts, In Jungle Warfare school we were always under radio silence and communicated by keying the Political Correct -25, Not much Morris code to it. more about when you have claymores set up to ambush a trail....Charlie

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Ken, it looks like the oil emusifier is working, Gulf currents are taking it toward Fla. Stopping it from flowing out is the big problem. I just kind of get updated on it watching local TV, Nothing I can do about it. There was a few big thunder head storms come through this AM so I didn't get my oil changed. I got some DVDs come in I orderd so I've been watching them, the Sandpebbles with Paul Newman is a great classic....Charlie

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Ok Larry, forgot about all the long haul over the water flights that need an HF radio for Comms. Do they need that now with Satellites? Never was a "bus driver" airline dude, do do not know. Have had my amatuer radio license since high school: K7UIK. HF (20 meter wavelength) was my bread and butter for DX (long distance Ionsphere skip) contacts back in '62-'64. Had lots of mentors...one retired army sgt was very helpful in getting my rig/antenna set up. Use to copy Morse Code at 35 words-per-minute. Hard pressed now though and not very active. Charlie, I think Larry was kidding about the PCness.Pete

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 03 May 2010
Time: 17:19

Comments

charlie, watch very little tv. is the oil their? you could have drove car or truck into gulf. might have got oil change. but cujo, would know better. ken

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 03 May 2010
Time: 17:18

Comments

charlie, watch very little tv. is the oil their? you could have drove car or truck into gulf. might have got oil change. but cujo, would know better. ken

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rick, thanks for the info. have a good day. ken

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Kenneth-I received same email from "Uss Hancock Store". This is not the Association's Ships Store. It is a private company that is soliciting members for business. They probably look at our Quarterdeck Log to find email addresses. I too deleted the email.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal. net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 03 May 2010
Time: 10:23

Comments

wayne, it popup on my email uss.Hancock stores. showing t shirts,patches,calander. calander was 10.00 $ wished i would have kept. email. i deleted it maybe it was a scam. ken

Comments

Ken, no password req'd on Hanna website. Only word is when you want to enter on q'deck log.

What calendar? We don't have one for sale.

Name: Lowell Price, AM3
Email_Address: drhog@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1956-1957
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V-6 Division
Date: 03 May 2010
Time: 06:24

Comments

I would love to hear from any of you and especially any who were aboard during my tour. I am still looking for ship mates that were in V-6 with me. I did find Skipper but he has since passed away. I am looking for S.L. Sealy, T.J. Martinez, A.D. Shaw, R.L. Ott or any others. Do any of you know what happened to Chief C.J. Cazubon? Lowell

Name: Lowell Price
Email_Address: drhog@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1956-1957
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V-6 Division
Date: 03 May 2010
Time: 06:10

Comments

I found an article with the title "LSO vs F7U Cutlass.jpg at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:LSO_vs_F7U_Cutalss.jpg which was dated 14 July 1955 and shows a picture of a crash on the deck of the Hancock. I did not know about this and thought you might like to look at it.

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Sorry Larry, Thats all I remember us calling them. I wasn't a radioman and only talked on them in training a few times it to report our position at designated times. I never was much into political correctness, I never wanted to get into politics. It sure has messed this world up........Charlie

Comments

Charlie:

Please - AN/PRC-25 radio - what, no political correctness? Better known as HF radio. Pete's one of those higher frequency VHF/UHF dudes.

I hope to see y'all in DC

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Ken, all that oil out there and I'm going to pay to get my oil changed in the AM.....Charlie

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Pete, the old Prick 25 radio ground troops used had many channels and had a swich to go on upper or lower bands. you were given a channel and a code name and a alternate channel on the other band for emergencys such as med evac or loss of contact. I have no idea what freq. The batteries in the thing was what made it so heavy not counting the case....Charlie

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Ken, I had problems with that password stuff also if I remember right just joining. I think I mailed a check. I think it has something to do with accounting, I'm sure Old Salt can help you. I'm spoiled I yell "Man Over Board" to Dennis and Pete.....Charlie

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Ken, You know as much about this oil spill as I do if you watch the news. It hasn't hit here yet, it just keeps growing. It's not far off. You bet, I know the XOs in CC, I was there twice for a while, I loved it. They had secondary flight training there and all we had then was TV antennas, forget about TV when they were flying....Charlie

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Charlie, commercial/private aircraft have VHF (Very High Frequency) radios in the 100 MHz range. Military tactical A/C have UHF radios (Ultra High Freq) in the 200ish range. Military Satellite Comms are other bands which I do not know. I know of the Iridium Satellite System for both commecial and military. Bottom line, VHF and UHF (and higher frequencies) are line-of-site communication bands. These are not that affected by the Ionosphere, normally...but in times of high Solar activity all bets are off. Pete

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 02 May 2010
Time: 17:42

Comments

charlie, i am sure the oil has got to where cujo lives, i think it's going to be at tex. coast line. it's bad stuff, but we need energy also, hope they can figure out what to do. know your xo in cc. is worried too. ken. charlie, when you got the hanna web. did you give a password.i was ordering a ships calender wanted password? ken

Comments

It takes a good radioman to adust the old radios to the antenas, I had one adjust mine once, he had meters and there were little screws he turned. it made a big difference. I think newer ones do it automaticly. Pete how far will AC radios reach.....Charlie

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charlie, wayne, was big into cbs in the 1970 as more people where using it without doing it the right way finnaly nothing but a bunch of crap. just backed out of it.ken

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Wayne, I never had to much luck with CBs, they are good for traveling with a group with people to keep from getting split up,or to tell each other when you need to pull over. That PRICK-25 ground troops used weighd a ton and you could shout further than it would travel in the woods, it did have an antena you could put way up in a tree and get HQ or another unit that had theirs up. I liked Marine ban, on my boat I could talk to anyone that wasn't beyond the horizon. listening to those cajun shrimpers are a trip......Charlie

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Charlie... In the early '60s my dad and some of his friends got into the CB radio craze. We all had home base sets and mobile car radio sets installed and it was fun to keep in touch with everyone else that also had radios (if you could put up with the static noise!). While on a trip to Rapid City, South Dakota one year, we were in our car at a park called Dinosaur Park. It was a clear night and the park was at a pretty high elevation. We experianced radio "skip" and were able to talk with friends of ours in the Chicago area and it was clear as a bell. That was over 1000 miles away. Not bad for a little CB radio.

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Ken the 1st 2 yrs of any dog is the hardest, Cujos not but about 2 1/2. I think Labs are a very smart dog, easy to train. they love water, I live in an apt so one would be to big for me. Pete has a couple Huskys, he sent me pix, they are beautiful. as close to the N pole as he lives he needs them, It's nice to be an Officer, he heads south during the winter and his wife has to tote her own firewood:).......Charlie

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Cujo is a Jack Rusell Terrior, she was a pup my son bought me, as she grew older she had no fear, She loves humans, I couldn't take her walking she would attact every dog she saw. the neighbors have doggie meetings, she would break them up in a heart beat, they were trespassing. I kept on her butt about it, now I watch her with other dogs, If hair stands up on her neck I pull her back. some dogs she dosen't have a problem with now. She is so fast shes a white blurr. Shes small but like a chunk of lead to pick her up. Shes all chest shoulders an neck. She is hyper, and can jump 4ft in the air flat footed like a deer.......Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 30 Apr 2010
Time: 19:45

Comments

charlie, your dog cujo what breed. i have a lab. chocolate. 5 years old last nov. frist 2 years should have got a 22 bullet' but she is a great dog and freind now.ken,

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Ken, those working party were a great incentive to make PO3, I remember the explosives for the sidewinders, they looked like a coffee painted OD, Heavy little suckers being passed down the chain gang, The chain gang had a rythem, if you didn't stay with it you would jam up the works. We went on several 3 day shake down cruises after leaving Hunters point.....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 30 Apr 2010
Time: 18:05

Comments

charlie, when i was onboard one time we went too hunters point stayed out about 3 miles got the duty of unloading ammo was a long day. glad we did'nt do that again. but i was skinny and in better shape then i am now. ken

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Dave, I did not deploy with the ship/airwing initially since I was finishing Aviation Safety Officer School at the Navy Post Graduate School at Monterey, CA. Loved that duty! Joined the squadron later in May via a long MAC flight when they were still beached at Cubi . Some Marine helo guys had my stateroom. It was prime quarters Hanger deck forward. 35 years, jeeze! Charlie, the radio wave skip is off the Ionosphere.Pete

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Dave, I was on Diego Garcia when Vietnam fell. We had a guy that was a ham operator and had a wire streched between a couple coconut trees but the radio was in our hut. I don't know where the station came from but they said Vietnam was rejoiceing in english. Every once in a while he could get ships to relay and patch into the phone system somewhere stateside and call your wife. She would accept the long distance call from where it was patched into. It was a hit and miss thing, I remember him saying something about skip. Not sure how it works but his signal bounced off the clouds or something....Charlie

Name: Dave Tonnancour
Email_Address: davet@cornellcorporation.com
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1973-1975
Division_Squadron_Detachment: Crash Crew
Date: 30 Apr 2010
Time: 13:38

Comments

35 years ago the Captian came over the 1-MC to let us know we would be on 72 hr duty. The evacuation was about to begin.Seeing all those people coming off the Helo's made us all think of how lucky we were to have a home and a country.After the loss of the 2 Pilots from the HC Helo. The war was at end. Remmember always.

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Looking back at the time I was on the Hanna were gravy yrs for her and the crew, of course we were pushed to be in battle shape but the drills made us better, I have know idea why they let an Iranian AC 1000 ft from our Super Carrier. A fuel laden AC of size would have been real bad crashing into it. I can't handle ROE,....Charlie

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Dennis my killer dog has turned into a bratt. I don't know who did it. I never seen a dog that will eat onions,Ice cubes,or cantalope. I was thinking about catching me a Gator and cutting it's tail off and putting a leash on it, I would have a junk yard dog then. I would keep it well fead, I wouldn't want it licking it's chops looking at me....Charlie

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Ken, the Hanna spent as much time at Hunters Point as she did in home port in Alameda. I remember takeing my wife to see her in drydock there. she couldn't get over the size of her, At least 1/3 of her was under the waterline. They kept her in new teck and the fleet knew it. The Coral Sea witch was tied across the pier was bigger and newer but knew Hannas rep, I guess Skippers compete but don't let on...Charlie

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REUNION INFORMATION. At the General Business Meeting during the reunions, several possible locations for the next reunion are presented to those present. A vote is taken, and we go to the winning city. We try to alternate among various areas of the country to give everyone the opportunity to attend. At present we use Armed Forces Reunions, Inc (AFRI) as coordinator/negotiators. They have provided us with information on various cities, hotel prices, tours available and so on. If you have a particular location in mind, the Board would welcome your suggestion(s), and information about that place. This time we will be considering the Midwest, Northwest, and Southwest. Any questions, would be happy to answer them. Just send me an e-mail, or call, and I will pass it on to the Board Members. Remember, the Board works for the entire membership, and is always open to suggestions on improving the Association for all members. Smooth sailing shipmates.

Comments

Charlie and Ken, The location of the next reunion is decided on by the members that come to this reunion and the next the same way. So if you want to have some input you need to try and make them otherwise others will decide where you will have to go. This is another good reason to make the reunions. Don't let CuJo go swimming near any swamps as the gaiters will get him or he will get them.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div.aft. eng. rm.
Date: 29 Apr 2010
Time: 22:35

Comments

charlie, glad to see you are at and ready. wish i could make it to reunion, but it's to far. maybe when closer,will be their. if i am still kicking.the hana could run 33 knots. at a dead wind, to help the pilot too get off. the deck. ken

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Ken, everyone liked it when Hanna wasn't poking along. The old Gal had a lot of spirit, what was agravateing was when we would get close to our next port of call and the seagulls would come out for chow and we would just go in circles wating to our time and date to pull in, of course this was peace time and didn't have a real station to be on......Charlie

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Old Salt, It sounds like your going to have a pretty good muster in DC. I wish I could make it and swap war stories. Where do you think the next one will be. The XO keeps an eye an me just waiting to take my stripes and through me in the brig. I'd have to stay hid from him:)......Charlie

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Thanks Ken, Just thought I would shut up for a while and let a few other shipmates post, This spill is going to be tragic. They haven't really figured out how to shut it off. It has gotten out of control and they want the Navy to come rescue them. They have one heck of a mess on their hands, I don't think we will get any of it until late tomarrow, I'm not going to let CuJo go Swimming....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 29 Apr 2010
Time: 19:12

Comments

charlie, are you ok? need to see your commets. maybe the oil slick got you. let us know ken

Comments

HANCOCK REUNION. Just got the latest registeration list from Armed Forces Reunions (AFRI). We have 248 registrations as of 27 Apr. We are now down to less than one month to go.. If you are planning on attending, sign up now. We still have seats left on the tours. This is going to be another great reunion, so don't miss out. See you there shipmates.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div.aft.eng.rm.
Date: 28 Apr 2010
Time: 23:05

Comments

wayne durfey, must be another snipe. i was on #3 one watch on the ear phones, told me too lock shaft. i did but later told me to unlock shaft. never heard the comand. when brass came to eng. rm. asked did you here comand. said no. they said well unlock shaft with a few other words. ken

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Ken Sureddin... I was the throttleman for main control in the early '70s, and when we were on the return trip to the bay area after one of our deployments, I decided to screw with the helmsman on the bridge for a little fun while on the mid-watch. We all wanted to get home asap and we were steady steaming at about 12 knots. We started to creep up the turns on the shaft untill we were doing close to 16 knots when the helmsman called me on my head phones and told me that the Old Man was prowling around the bridge and to knock it off! We brought the speed back down to the proper number of turns. Anything to break the monotony.

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 28 Apr 2010
Time: 20:37

Comments

I have learn alot by coments, and did it but when i was on thottle you could only be 3 rpm off i think.that is closed..so you guys have a good night

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Larry,shipmates...http://a4skyhawk.org/2c/techdata.htm gives the tech details of the various models of the Scooter. However, could not find the ECM gear designation.Thought you might be interested in this data .Pete

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Larry, having a senior moment here. I remember two systems designated ALQ-?. One was for SAM launch detection (direction indication)/guidance mode warning (noisy warble) and the other black box in the hump was for SAM countermeasures. I have a NATOPs manual safely stored (read no clue where) in my cellar. That might have the designations. Pete

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I see where the Coast Guard may set our oil spill on fire . It has gotten huge but wind has kept it off shore. The sunk rig is still spewing crude out. It is a bad situation. None of it has reached our beaches yet.....Charlie

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Pete, the AC you and the XO flew were far advaced from the ones I remember. The pix of the A4F and the crusader looked like the ones we had on steriods, there were a lot of changes made. You guys on the flight deck amazed me. some how they made it work without killing to many of each other. usely about 4 or 5 a cruise counting Pilots in the drink and runing into the fan tail...Charlie

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Dennis, something I was told was the AD had a water injection system that some how increased compression to boost HP for short term when needed. the additional compression was tough on the engine long term, The guy seemed to know what he was talking about. I have never seen an AD torn down in the Hanger Deck. I heard of the one with a bullet hole but never seen it.......Charlie

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Pete:

What ECM system did you have in the A-4F? I know the earlier F-4's had APR-39, Wild Weasel.

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Charlie, I have never seen them mounting the armor plate under the AD but I seem to remember seeing it in place and to me it looked like a one inch to one and a half inch thick plate of aluminum that was bolted on from underneath. I don't know if they armored any other p;laces on the aircraft but the under side. I think we will need a former pilot or aircraft maintenance guy to answer this one because like you I was just an observer on that one, closer than you but still an observer. Dennis

Name: ROB MORIS
Email_Address: 2rnk1612@cox.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1957 - 1958
Division_Squadron_Detachment: VA 116
Date: 27 Apr 2010
Time: 18:23

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just checking in -

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Dennis, Jim, Charlie, all. The first operational A-4 was designated "D." After that with various airframe changes, electronics, engines, weapons stations, etc. the A-4 evolved and was re-designated (A,B, C, etc.). I flew the A-4F model with the J52-P408 engine off the Hanna with all the latest (at the time) ECM (electronic counter measures) wizbang gear...We called it the "A-4 Super Fox;" a very sweet bird! Brief A-4 bio is at http://a4skyhawk.org/2c/first-last.htm. Check out the Skyhawk Association site.I am a board member. A pic of young me from '73 is on the site.Jim, VA is for attack (bomber) and VF is fighter. On the Hanna I was an "Attack Puke," but I also flew F-8s briefly. The XO flew F-4s. Pete

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Dennis I seen some airdales puting armor on Ad's when the Pilots went on that bombing run in Cambodia, I didn't get a good look, I wonderd how they hooked it on. I had to get below decks when the just started. The A4's I heard were called A4D's. You were up close and personal. do you remember witch model it was....Charlie

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Jim, Pete flew the A4 F series which came after the D models we worked with, The F series had a stronger engine and the electronics hump behind the canopy. They were the Skyhawk (like small hawk) model, The SkyRaider was the AD-1-H which was the Prop Job by Grumman and the A3D was the bomber called the SkyWarrier, That was the one that could push you around on your tractor if the aircraft captain wasn't working with you on the breaks. I always felt nervuos when we parked them behind the island in rolling seas with the one rear wheel just inches from the edge. Always felt Squadrons we had flying with us were VA-112 With the A4D-2, Vah-4 Det.C flying the A3-D Skywarrier, VF-114 with the F3H-3 and VF-111 with the F-11-F then VA-115 with the AD's they were called "The Arabs" back then but had a name change for political correctness. VAW-113 flew the WF "Charlie's Turtles" and the Chopper was HU-1 Det C flying the model HUP-2 "Hutron One" Dennis

Name: Jim Winn - Life Member # 170
Email_Address: Jwinnfsm@aol.com
Association_Member: Life Member
Years_Aboard: 1959 - 1962
Division_Squadron_Detachment: V-6 & VF-211
Date: 26 Apr 2010
Time: 23:44

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Dennis, I'm trying to get picky with you, but wasn't the Skyhawk a bomber instead of a fighter? Squadrons were VA -___ instead of VF - ___. Pete will probably set you straight on that one. Isn't that what he flew. Dennis and I loved the Skyraiders because we could drive those little NC1-A's close to their props at fast speeds. I think that we liked the risk at the time. I got picked up off the deck by an F8U intake once, but luckily I didn't go into the intake. Towing planes for respotting at night was the most dangerous, especially when the wheels were sliding on the round down at the aft of the flight deck. Jim

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 26 Apr 2010
Time: 18:45

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dennis, thanks when i came up on top side i would see these planes. just forgot what i was looking at.thanks again.ken

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Kennith, The Skywarrier was the twin engine bomber called the "Wale" because of it's size and the Skyhraider was the Prop Job, the Skyhawk was a small jet fighter all made by Grumman and all tough aircraft. The Skyraider was an amazingly tough aircraft and they said it could carry twice it's weight in payload if it did not have the armor on at the time. A great aircraft but it also ate a few guys on the flight deck, kind of like getting into a tree shredder. Pretty scary to work with in close quarters as were any prop jobs, mad you really think about what the guys worked with in WWII and Korea and with a lot smaller flight deck. Props are very unforgiving. And Jets Suck so the flight deck was a very dangerous place to work and you had to have a 360 degree swivel on your head at all times but those that did it loved it. Dennis

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XO I got a call from Toni this AM. Shes been in key-west for a week. No telling where that gal will show up. She sapose to preform in dances with stars contest on the Lex on the 7th. She said her partner is gay and about her size, She said if he tossed her in the air and dropped her he was a dead man. Sure wish I could see it......Charlie

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Bob, It sounds like you got one heck of a resume, It sounds like you were aboard the Hanna the same yrs I was......Charlie

Name: Bob Adams
Email_Address: skywarerior72@tds.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1963-1965
Division_Squadron_Detachment: Ops-Air Intel
Date: 25 Apr 2010
Time: 19:46

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I went from the Hancock to VAH 123 to transition to the A3 and then to VAH4. I flew the 'whale' from 1965 to 1967. Landed on Hanna only once when I was with Det Yankee at Cubi Pt.Spent most of time on KittyHawk Bob

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 25 Apr 2010
Time: 19:28

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bob, your email says sky warrior at the time i was aboard. hana had sky warrior and sky raiders one was prop. the other jet. have forgot witch is prop. and witch is jet. telll me please. ken

Name: Bob Adams
Email_Address: skywarrior72@tds.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 19631965
Division_Squadron_Detachment: Ops, Air Intel
Date: 25 Apr 2010
Time: 17:05

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Just read the mail from McCormack about his son being in the NJROTC program in his high school. For those who haven't heard about the program, it is one of the best in the nation, The Navy, Marine Corps. the Air Force and the Army all have JROTC programs at the high school level. I spent 24 years as the SNSI(Senior Naval Science Instructor ) at a high school located in Indianapolis, IN. IF anyone reading this would like more information about the program, they can email me at the address listed above. Bob

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Mack, After he gets a little time and schools and OJT under his belt getting attached to the MC should be no problem. In the Bs and MC the ones I saw were 2nd Class. Both take real good care of their Corpsman. You sure want them around if you need them.....Charlie

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The Navy honored our son's JROTC, achievements in high school, so he came out of boot camp an E-3 Seaman. He is in A- school, going to be a corpsman. He is thinking about being assigned to the Marine Corp. Anyway, I told him I was extremely proud of him. For you fishing buffs, yesterday my buddy and I kept 8 bigmouth bass, 4 were in the 3 to 4 lb. class. Cheers, Mack

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Pete, or someone, at amazon.com I was looking under USS Hancock CVA-19 and they have a DVD named A-4 Skyrader : attack bomber. It dosen't say anything about it but only a few pix. one shows a A-4 being launched off the Hanna, There is only one new one for sale for $30. I think it might be one of those things that if you don't get it RIP. You might want it? ........Charlie

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Oooops, Pete I think I left the main ingredient out, Macks wife......Charlie

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Mack, I second Charlie's thoughts. Congratulations to your son, and you and your wife. Pete

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Mack, I see where 75% of of the Nations young can't qualify to get into the Military nowdays because of School dropouts, Drugs, Fat and Police records. It makes me even prouder of your young "Shipmate". You did something right.......Charlie

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Ken, I got the pix, There's a lot of history there, they are outstanding. Thanks......Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 23 Apr 2010
Time: 05:51

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charlie, i did resend the pictures let me know.ken

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Ken, I haven't received them yet, I have some problems with my e-mail because of when my son 1st set it up he misspelled Valhalla1@cableone.net, Please try again buddy.....Charlie

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Darn we have a big oil slick from that oil platform that blew up of shore heading our way, It sapose to be here tomarrow. They just had a big volunteer drive to pick trash up on our barrier islands........Charlie

Name: kennet sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 22 Apr 2010
Time: 20:12

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charlie. email you some pictures of pearl harbor. hope you received them ken.

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Jerry Bell emailed me a vidio link. I've been wondering about him for a long time. I fwd it to a few shipmates so it could get spread around. He's got a ranch in E Texas. It's hard to get him to post anything but he reads it. Mack and I served aboard the same time, I know him but can't put a face with it, I still blame him for blowing tubes when leaving home port and screwing up a set of my whites while I was at Qtrs.......Charlie

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Congrats, Mack I bet you had your chest stuck out in pride. What rate is he going to be. He's in for the trip of his life. Schools are a lot more High Teck than when we were in. I don't think I could use one of those GPS's without a Co-Pilot reading it. I would crash into something while trying.....Charlie

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Our son graduated from navy boot camp 4-16-10. We had the priviledge to watch the proceedings in person. The young people did an excellent job. Over 700 graduated, and there was over 3000 visitors in attendance. It was our first time in that part of the world. Our g.p.s., took us across the chicago skyway I-90 at rush hour, traffic everywhere, now that was exhilarating. Cheers, Mack

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Pete, I don't know about "O" training but I never was afraid of one once I got a little time in on the Hanna, our Ensen was under our Chiefs wing and as 2nd class he was more afraid of me than I was him. In Army boot camp I went up to a couple of 2nd Lts and asked them if they had a light my lighter was out of fluid, thier eyes got big and gave me a light, They weren't used to Enlisted doing that, They could bite me but they can't eat me, that's against the law......Charlie

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Pete, thats what Seniors do if their people are worth a crap. I never had to have a "O" go to bat, that was some serious stuff pending him. I mostly delt with "Ws" in the Army, They were as crazy as me. They really weren't "Os" but they were. They were stuck in the middle. They were chopper Pilots. When we landed at firebases they would go to the beer tent with me and my Asst. They went to "O" country to bunk down.....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng rm.
Date: 20 Apr 2010
Time: 20:26

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charlie, your son must be mm1 my mm1 was the best man anywhere his last name was wright. looked at hana decease. think his name was their. ken

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 20 Apr 2010
Time: 19:54

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charlie, i could tell you served the military very well. be careful and talk. later. ken

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Charlie do not start a fight :), I was a young JG right out of flight school when I was given the Line Division at VC-4 Det Cecil (first real job as an O). Ok, the first thing the line chief told me was that one of the guys in my division was on parole pending an appeal for rape and murder. He was released to the Navy (Me/chief). Talk about a responsiblity! The sailor was a hard worker, and I had to testify in court to that fact. I think it was a bad charge, but the case dragged on past my two years in the squadron. I just stood up for my sailors. He was finally acquited on appeal. Maybe I helped. Pete

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No Ken, I wish I was MC, my oldest son is. Hes a MM that started out as a BT in the fireroom on cans. He is kicking 30 yrs in, I think they will make him walk the plank then. He didn't want to become a Command MC because they could send him anywhere and he loved the sea.....Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. eng. rm.
Date: 20 Apr 2010
Time: 19:43

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sorry charlie, did not know when you push summit it goes on.got to plant grass tomorrow tex. no rain for 2 years killed it. ken.

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Ken I was Sw1 (steel worker in the SeaBees) My big mistake was to keep changing services. I got off the Hanna and went into the Army for 5 yrs and had to go their boot camp and training. I left them and went in the Bs, back to traing camp because I wasn't Marine Corps trained. by the time I got much time with them the war was shuting down and stripes closed down.......Charlie

Name: kenneth sureddin
Email_Address: mksureddin@sbcglobal.net
Association_Member: Yes
Years_Aboard: 1958-1960
Division_Squadron_Detachment: m div. aft. rm.
Date: 20 Apr 2010
Time: 19:30